The plan from RHA is to turn it into a co-ed freshmen only dorm starting in Fall 2007

not only that...i heard from a moses source that they are going to prohibit those boys that do so much damage from moving together into another dorm.

way to go moses!

I've heard a lot about this second hand, but is there an official announcement from ResLife somewhere?

All I've heard is secondhand information, but its been from RA's from other dorms so I assume its legit.

What a terrible blow to Northside tradition and vicariously offcampus bonfire.



"And even now the axe is laid to the root of the trees. therefore every tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire." -Matthew 3:10

They gave us residents a letter earlier this week, which means they pretty much gave us a weeks notice on deciding where we are going to live next year.

yknow, it totally sucks that they are doing this.

in all fairness, the guys that live there now though are an absolute deadly combination. not that thats enough reason to shut down the entire dorm though.

goodbye tradition!

hellllooooooo conformity.

On a positive note, of change (gasp) an organization or group of people really has the opportunity to show it's ingenuity and individuality in a time of drastic change, maybe this could be good for not only northside, but for all of A&M. It's be a bummer to see northside go soft (see southside), but maybe they can retain some of their uniqueness and individuality while removing some of their ******baggery, therefore improving the landscape altogether.

It does involve change though, and well honestly, on this forum, that word should be censored.

If I know Moses, they can and will just reclaim it. Raid the dorm and kick the little brats out of their own damn rooms.

don't give them ideas....

From the reslife email...


Beginning fall 2007, Moses hall will be converted to a new incoming
freshman coed residence hall in support of the university goals of
improving the freshman year experience at Texas A&M University. This
means that no current Moses resident can renew to remain in Moses and
no hall changes will be approved into Moses for fall 2007.

Those poor fish...

don't even know what's going to hit 'em...

and most of them will probably be assigned to Moses...which means they will be a victim of circumstance and the administration really...

but I fear the old RAB's will get the blame for whatever happens...

http://www.texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?topic_id=818793&page=1&forum_id=12

for those of you who don't venture out of this forum much

No one who knows what happened to DG should be surprised by this. Reslife doesn't give a **** about community in the dorms.

http://texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?topic_id=818799&forum_id=17

from academics.

hire a good head resident and some good ra's and straighten it out!!!!!!
weak leadership usually creates these environments!!!

ah so were going to improve life for the fish at the expense of the upper classmen.....wonderful...

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Proudest member of the Fightin Texas Aggie class of 08 Beat the h*** outa tu A-A-A Whoop!!!. May bonfire forever burn in our hearts.....and may the Twelfth Man ever burn it in memory and in hope for the future.

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hire a good head resident and some good ra's and straighten it out!!!!!!
weak leadership usually creates these environments!!!

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That doesn't fix the problem. It makes the bonfire people feel alienated and makes them hate ResLife that much more. People that aren't mature enough to follow rules will blindly hate those that try to enforce them. Trust me I know.

ResLife's goal isn't just to get rid of the maintenance/discipline problem that is Moses, this university needs to move its housing system into the 90s at least, this means some segregation of freshmen so that they can be catered to, and moving to coed.

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[strike]segregation[/strike] sheltering of freshmen

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fixed it for ya.


And I completely disagree with that sentiment. Colleges are a mixture of the youth of students with the experience and knowledge of professors. The professors imbue the basic principles of their field of study while the students with a fresh perspective on things can learn, research and create something new that the professors hadn't thought of yet.

Res Halls should work the same way. The incoming freshmen learn from the upperclassmen the 'tricks of the trade' as far as surviving college and learning good time management while gaining good friendships and having a good time.

All Freshmen halls are a terrible idea.

Lechner is a failure.

Speaking as a RAB, I have to say that I am disappointed but not surprised. The university has been on our back as long as I can remember. Old Moses still lives, maybe we will find a way to infiltrate and continue to shape those freshmen minds like before.

-Sixpack, RAB '05

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Lechner is a failure.

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Lechner (post-2002) is the very reason I'm opposed to ever having any more all-fish dorms.

Lechner started its decline after they banned the traditions talk. At least, that's my perspective.

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Lechner started its decline after they banned the traditions talk. At least, that's my perspective.

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That (along with their refusal to allow Storytime with Jimmy), was what soured my opinion of the Lechner staff.

BTW, forgive me if you've already said it, but who are you? I'm Dan from third floor.

Hey, in Lechner, we're just better than you... and we know it.

Now leave us the hell alone, sunlight and glimpses of fun external social settings hurt our eyes.

Eh, I lived on 2nd floor. They really TRIED to kill hall unity. And they did a good job of it in a dorm that had a good chance to survive the loss of Bonfire.

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FIFY

Reslife absolutely cares about community within the dorms...they just want it to be positive. And I'm not going to deny that the general Bonfire crowd isn't always the most respectful or well behaved. I have a very close source within ResLife in an active bonfire dorm who does his best to build community in his ramp. He knows all of his residents, and encourages them to all get to know each other. The RA's and GHD's of the dorms have goals to meet as far as programs and community building--I know this for sure.


Here is a quote from the ResLife's Mission Statement according to the Student Resident Handbook:

"...The ongoing goals of the department are to provide a quality physical environment through preventative maintenance, renovation, and new construction; establish guidelines and operational support mechanisms that are cost effective, provide structural and enhanced compatibility, and cooperative community living; and to develop an interpersonal environment that reflects individual responsibility, a concern for others, respect for and appreciation of diversity, and an atmosphere that is conducive to the learning, growth, and personal development of each resident."

The reason they are switching Moses to an all fish dorm is not to "kill bonfire." It's because the residents destroyed ~$20K within the dorm with no remorse. They took a bowling ball and threw it through the bathroom walls. They took entire bathroom stalls and threw them through windows, not only knocking out the glass but also the frames.

If you are this ignorant to destroy your own dorm on a campus that we should absolutely adore and respect, then you don't deserve to live there. In fact, you don't deserve to live on campus at all.

Jayci, why do you insist on resorting to things like common sense and logic? The fact that these idiots trashed their dorm is not important, what really matters is tradition, some aggie you are. Troll. [/sarcasm]

You guys would do well to take a page out of Jayci's book and wake the fu<k up to the real world here. Quit playing the victim and pretending like the administration is out to get you and realize that you and your ilk are behaving like 16 year old thugs. Like Jayci said, it's a pretty big shame you guys refuse to respect this campus like the rest of us do.

Thank you Jayci, I hope everybody reads what you wrote and realizes a thing or two.

who ever said that reslie was trying to kill bonfire?

what curly said below me sucks--as in, it sucks that they did that.

[This message has been edited by WH08PsyJayci (edited 3/8/2007 10:30p).]

When I was a fish in Crocker, most of the trouble was caused by a group of guys who were extremely anti-Bonfire. Everything they did was blamed on us Bonfire guys, by the hall staff in order to lower our numbers. A former RA who is a friend of mine told me that the GHD had the RA's write up Bonfire guys for everything simply because we were Bonfire guys

just part of Vision 2020...

lived in moses for three years 4TH FLOOR EMPIRE!

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or so my conversations with a couple north side hall directors have led me to believe.

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How do they distinguish between "Bonfire" and "non-Bonfire" people?

Could it be, like curly is suggesting, that they are biased, and tend to watch some people closer than others?

Or could it be just coincidence, and that the others causing trouble aren't really attached to any kind of well known group, so you don't ever hear about "the <no adjective to describe them> people destroying the dorms"

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How do they distinguish between "Bonfire" and "non-Bonfire" people?

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If you are a hall director or an RA, you know your residents whether they know you or not. "bonfire" people are the ones that hang out at the benches in front of the dorms or in th quads. The ones that are making pots in front of the dorms or wrestling each other--or getting up every weekend in the fall and wearing the same dirty smelly clothes.

I know in FHK, the bonfire people were the ones that came to all of the hall events. Yeah, we did our share of mayhem, but so did the people that never did bonfire. The only difference was that all the hall staff knew our names and faces as opposed to a random guy who lives in the dorm.

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The smell.