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Three time Trump voter here because he was the better choice by far, no contest.

But I don't consider myself hardcore MAGA because I don't share the worship, cult-like following of his hardcore base. I feel free to agree and disagree with him on things as I see them.

Really like his work to keep taxes low, reduce regulations, end DEI, secure the border, deport illegal aliens, and call out the green climate scam. Also like that he's getting the Europeans to pony up more for their defense.

Don't like his big spending, or tariffs, or how he has sucked up to Putin.

You can't win 'em all... no politician will align with you 100%.

On this Epstein thing, I couldn't care less about it. If there was proof of politicians diddling kids, it would have come out by now by their opponents. No way that stays secret for so long. No way. It's time for those who are promoting this conspiracy to put up or shut up. Where's the proof?

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Why would the govt want proof of diddling kids getting out?

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The majority of this board supported Trump, Bondi, Patel, and Bongino when they were elected/appointed as high integrity stewards to lead the US government in the fight of right vs. wrong. We've seen them go after criminals and wrongdoing in their short time in office thus far.

And now we believe they are deliberately withholding information that would put criminals behind bars?

Really?

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Yes I believe that is why Patel is mad that the truth is not coming out and is being told to be quiet. I believe he wants it to come out. Patel is the one going after the Pedos that are not in Govt.

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MemphisAg1 said:

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Three time Trump voter here because he was the better choice by far, no contest.

But I don't consider myself hardcore MAGA because I don't share the worship, cult-like following of his hardcore base. I feel free to agree and disagree with him on things as I see them.

Really like his work to keep taxes low, reduce regulations, end DEI, secure the border, deport illegal aliens, and call out the green climate scam. Also like that he's getting the Europeans to pony up more for their defense.

Don't like his big spending, or tariffs, or how he has sucked up to Putin.

You can't win 'em all... no politician will align with you 100%.

On this Epstein thing, I couldn't care less about it. If there was proof of politicians diddling kids, it would have come out by now by their opponents. No way that stays secret for so long. No way. It's time for those who are promoting this conspiracy to put up or shut up. Where's the proof?

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Why would the govt want proof of diddling kids getting out?

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The majority of this board supported Trump, Bondi, Patel, and Bongino when they were elected/appointed as high integrity stewards to lead the US government in the fight of right vs. wrong. We've seen them go after criminals and wrongdoing in their short time in office thus far.

And now we believe they are deliberately withholding information that would put criminals behind bars?

Really?

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Yes I believe that is why Patel is mad that the truth is not coming out and is being told to be quiet. I believe he wants it to come out. Patel is the one going after the Pedos that are not in Govt.

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Don't forget that Patels girlfriend has Mossad connections. Not saying he is for sure compromised but it has to be considerred

Looking at some information with Trump I think it is fair to assume he was involved. I also believe dems were in involved. I also believe Mossad and the Mega Group were/ are pulling all the strings with anything Epstein or Maxwell related.


- **Social Relationship with Epstein
- Trump and Epstein were acquaintances in the 1980s and 1990s, socializing in New York and Palm Beach. They were photographed together at events, including at Mar-a-Lago in 1992, 1997, and 2000, and at a 1997 Victoria's Secret party in New York.[](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-partied-together-then-an-oceanfront-palm-beach-mansion-came-between-them/2019/07/31/79f1d98c-aca0-11e9-a0c9-6d2d7818f3da_story.html)
- In 2002, Trump told New York magazine, "I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." This comment has been scrutinized for its implications, though it predates Epstein's legal troubles.[](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/01/trump-jeffrey-epstein-tapes)
- Epstein's "little black book" of contacts, released in court filings, included 14 phone numbers for Trump, his wife Melania, and others in his circle, indicating frequent contact during this period.[](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-partied-together-then-an-oceanfront-palm-beach-mansion-came-between-them/2019/07/31/79f1d98c-aca0-11e9-a0c9-6d2d7818f3da_story.html)
- Audio recordings from 2017, released by journalist Michael Wolff, feature Epstein discussing Trump's inner circle and their long-standing relationship, suggesting a close social tie. Wolff claimed Epstein spoke for "100 hours" about Trump, though the tapes don't directly implicate Trump in criminal acts.[](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/01/trump-jeffrey-epstein-tapes)

- **Flight Logs**:
- Trump flew on Epstein's private jet at least seven times in the 1990s, primarily between Palm Beach and New York, sometimes with his then-wife Marla Maples and daughter Tiffany. These logs, from Ghislaine Maxwell's trial, do not indicate illegal activity on the flights. Epstein's pilot, Lawrence Visoski Jr., testified in 2021 that he never witnessed sexual activity or minors on flights involving Trump.[](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-named-repeatedly-jeffrey-epstein-files-released-pam-bondi-2037648)[](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-epstein-files-what-we-know-2081811)[](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/11/trump-epstein-documents-ted-lieu/)

- **Mar-a-Lago and Other Interactions**:
- Epstein was a frequent guest at Trump's Mar-a-Lago club. A 1992 event, a "calendar girl" competition, was attended solely by Trump, Epstein, and 28 women flown in for the event, organized at Trump's request. No allegations of misconduct are tied to this specific event.[](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/us/politics/trump-epstein.html)
- In 2000, Epstein attended a Mar-a-Lago tennis tournament with Ghislaine Maxwell and Prince Andrew. Trump was photographed with them but not accused of wrongdoing at this event.[](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-partied-together-then-an-oceanfront-palm-beach-mansion-came-between-them/2019/07/31/79f1d98c-aca0-11e9-a0c9-6d2d7818f3da_story.html)
- Trump reportedly barred Epstein from Mar-a-Lago after Epstein attempted to recruit a female employee, though the exact timing and reason (possibly a 2004 real estate dispute over Maison de l'Amitie) are debated. Trump has claimed he cut ties with Epstein around 2004, before Epstein's 2005 legal troubles began.[](https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/trump/2025/02/27/donald-trump-was-he-in-jeffrey-epstein-list-flight-logs-last-year/80700432007/)[](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/us/politics/trump-epstein.html)[](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-partied-together-then-an-oceanfront-palm-beach-mansion-came-between-them/2019/07/31/79f1d98c-aca0-11e9-a0c9-6d2d7818f3da_story.html)

- **Specific Allegations**:
- **Stacey Williams (1993)**: Former model Stacey Williams alleged in October 2024 that Epstein introduced her to Trump at Trump Tower, where Trump groped her in a "twisted game" while Epstein watched. Trump denied the claim, and no corroborating evidence (e.g., photos or witnesses) has been publicly verified. Williams shared this on a Survivors4Harris Zoom call, raising questions about political motivations.[](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/epstein-documents-trump.html)[](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/01/trump-jeffrey-epstein-tapes)
- **Jane (1990s)**: A woman using the pseudonym "Jane" testified in Maxwell's 2021 trial that Epstein took her to Mar-a-Lago at age 14 to meet Trump. She did not allege misconduct by Trump, and no further details suggest impropriety during this encounter.[](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jeffrey-epstein-introduced-trump-14-ghislaine-maxwell-accuser-says-rcna7253)
- **Sarah Ransome (2016)**: Ransome, an Epstein victim, emailed a New York Post reporter in 2016 claiming to have compromising tapes involving Trump, Bill Clinton, and others. She later retracted these claims, admitting she fabricated them out of fear of retaliation by Epstein and Maxwell. No evidence of such tapes has surfaced in court records.[](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/epstein-documents-trump.html)[](https://abcnews.go.com/US/new-round-jeffrey-epstein-court-documents-unsealed/story?id=106174129)

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MemphisAg1 said:

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Three time Trump voter here because he was the better choice by far, no contest.

But I don't consider myself hardcore MAGA because I don't share the worship, cult-like following of his hardcore base. I feel free to agree and disagree with him on things as I see them.

Really like his work to keep taxes low, reduce regulations, end DEI, secure the border, deport illegal aliens, and call out the green climate scam. Also like that he's getting the Europeans to pony up more for their defense.

Don't like his big spending, or tariffs, or how he has sucked up to Putin.

You can't win 'em all... no politician will align with you 100%.

On this Epstein thing, I couldn't care less about it. If there was proof of politicians diddling kids, it would have come out by now by their opponents. No way that stays secret for so long. No way. It's time for those who are promoting this conspiracy to put up or shut up. Where's the proof?

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Why would the govt want proof of diddling kids getting out?

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The majority of this board supported Trump, Bondi, Patel, and Bongino when they were elected/appointed as high integrity stewards to lead the US government in the fight of right vs. wrong. We've seen them go after criminals and wrongdoing in their short time in office thus far.

And now we believe they are deliberately withholding information that would put criminals behind bars?

Really?

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Yes I believe that is why Patel is mad that the truth is not coming out and is being told to be quiet. I believe he wants it to come out. Patel is the one going after the Pedos that are not in Govt.

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So why doesn't he quit and spill the beans? Tell us the whole story and shine the light on wrongdoing. Create a national firestorm and independent investigations that compel Trump and Bondi to come clean.

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MemphisAg1 said:

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The Fall Guy said:

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Three time Trump voter here because he was the better choice by far, no contest.

But I don't consider myself hardcore MAGA because I don't share the worship, cult-like following of his hardcore base. I feel free to agree and disagree with him on things as I see them.

Really like his work to keep taxes low, reduce regulations, end DEI, secure the border, deport illegal aliens, and call out the green climate scam. Also like that he's getting the Europeans to pony up more for their defense.

Don't like his big spending, or tariffs, or how he has sucked up to Putin.

You can't win 'em all... no politician will align with you 100%.

On this Epstein thing, I couldn't care less about it. If there was proof of politicians diddling kids, it would have come out by now by their opponents. No way that stays secret for so long. No way. It's time for those who are promoting this conspiracy to put up or shut up. Where's the proof?

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Why would the govt want proof of diddling kids getting out?

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The majority of this board supported Trump, Bondi, Patel, and Bongino when they were elected/appointed as high integrity stewards to lead the US government in the fight of right vs. wrong. We've seen them go after criminals and wrongdoing in their short time in office thus far.

And now we believe they are deliberately withholding information that would put criminals behind bars?

Really?

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Yes I believe that is why Patel is mad that the truth is not coming out and is being told to be quiet. I believe he wants it to come out. Patel is the one going after the Pedos that are not in Govt.

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So why doesn't he quit and spill the beans? Tell us the whole story and shine the light on wrongdoing. Create a national firestorm and independent investigations that compel Trump and Bondi to come clean.

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Not many people are going against those powers man. Mossad, the Mega Group, the American billionaires, Clinton, etc….. most people would be afraid of that

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Patel mad??? Ha!

Have you not read his comments?

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Three time Trump voter here because he was the better choice by far, no contest.

But I don't consider myself hardcore MAGA because I don't share the worship, cult-like following of his hardcore base. I feel free to agree and disagree with him on things as I see them.

Really like his work to keep taxes low, reduce regulations, end DEI, secure the border, deport illegal aliens, and call out the green climate scam. Also like that he's getting the Europeans to pony up more for their defense.

Don't like his big spending, or tariffs, or how he has sucked up to Putin.

You can't win 'em all... no politician will align with you 100%.

On this Epstein thing, I couldn't care less about it. If there was proof of politicians diddling kids, it would have come out by now by their opponents. No way that stays secret for so long. No way. It's time for those who are promoting this conspiracy to put up or shut up. Where's the proof?

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Why would the govt want proof of diddling kids getting out?

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The majority of this board supported Trump, Bondi, Patel, and Bongino when they were elected/appointed as high integrity stewards to lead the US government in the fight of right vs. wrong. We've seen them go after criminals and wrongdoing in their short time in office thus far.

And now we believe they are deliberately withholding information that would put criminals behind bars?

Really?

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Yes I believe that is why Patel is mad that the truth is not coming out and is being told to be quiet. I believe he wants it to come out. Patel is the one going after the Pedos that are not in Govt.

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So why doesn't he quit and spill the beans? Tell us the whole story and shine the light on wrongdoing. Create a national firestorm and independent investigations that compel Trump and Bondi to come clean.

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Dude, are you on the list or something?

I think the biggest problem with releasing a list is then what? Arrests and trials? I'm guessing there's a statute of limitations. If not, do the girls testify over and over until the whole list isn't behind bars? I doubt that happens.

So then what? They all become targets without a trial? They don't get an opportunity to clear their names?

I'm definitely against pedos walking free. I just don't see a way that justice gets done here.

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I think the biggest problem with releasing a list is then what? Arrests and trials? I'm guessing there's a statute of limitations. If not, do the girls testify over and over until the whole list isn't behind bars? I doubt that happens.

So then what? They all become targets without a trial? They don't get an opportunity to clear their names?

I'm definitely against pedos walking free. I just don't see a way that justice gets done here.

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Yes. Ruin them. Destroy their lives. Every last one.

as shown in New York statue of limitations can change. There are also civil remedies. It also allows people to get rid of any politicians who may be involved.

Justice will never be served in this case, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't take steps in that direction.

President Trump somehow contorting facts into an argument that Dems and President Biden created the Epstein list is grade A gas lighting. Epstein was arrested and died during President Trump's admin. So, clearly Dems had nothing to do with that. More recently, AG Bondi says this list is on her desk. So now, President Biden's admin suddenly snuck into her office and destroyed the list. NOW, President Trump says Dems created the list… last week he said there was no list. How did Dems create one if it doesn't exist? And yet, rightists won't call him out on this basic fabrication and twisting of the facts.

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as shown in New York statue of limitations can change. There are also civil remedies. It also allows people to get rid of any politicians who may be involved.

Justice will never be served in this case, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't take steps in that direction.

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Ghislaine is the key, why can't she be interviewed by Joe Rogan or some other reputable journalist? Perhaps Kid Rock can intervene as well.

We need to get to the bottom of this quagmire of filth.

before this week I was firmly in the camp that the list didn't exist and the trump campaign just pretended it did for populist appeal/to get elected, but after the way they've responded this last few months I'm starting to believe it's real and he's either on it or heavily complicit in the coverup. there's no other explanation that makes more sense.

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Ghislaine is the key, why can't she be interviewed by Joe Rogan or some other reputable journalist? Perhaps Kid Rock can intervene as well.

We need to get to the bottom of this quagmire of filth.

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Kid Rock. Come on man. LOL.

Maxwell obviously isn't afraid of being put in prison but I'm sure there are people outside of prison that she would be worried for if she just went and spilled 100% of the truth.

Mossad, the Mega group, American billionaires, the Clinton types, Trump, etc…. They aren't afraid to swing their power

But I do agree with you that someone needs to figure out how to get more info

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More recently, AG Bondi says this list is on her desk.

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Your other points are valid, but not this minor detail. Bondi never said this, she was refering to the "files" in general.

I know it was in response to a specific question referencing the "list", and she said "its on my desk". She later clarified, and it's reasonable to believe her on that specific clarification.

Between Patel, Bongino, and Bondi, she deserves least criticism on Epstein. But now, looks like Trump is directing her to fall in line with Patel and Bongino to kill the story on his murder and connection to Mossad/CIA.

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More recently, AG Bondi says this list is on her desk.

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Your other points are valid, but not this minor detail. Bondi never said this, she was refering to the "files" in general.

I know it was in response to a specific question referencing the "list", and she said "its on my desk". She later clarified, and it's a reasonable to believe on that specific clarification.

Between Patel, Bongino, and Bondi, she deserves least criticism on Epstein. But now, looks like Trump is directing her to fall in line with Patel and Bongino.

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files, list, evidence…. Use whatever word you want but names are in whatever you want to call it

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I think the biggest problem with releasing a list is then what? Arrests and trials? I'm guessing there's a statute of limitations. If not, do the girls testify over and over until the whole list isn't behind bars? I doubt that happens.

So then what? They all become targets without a trial? They don't get an opportunity to clear their names?

I'm definitely against pedos walking free. I just don't see a way that justice gets done here.

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Yes. Ruin them. Destroy their lives. Every last one.

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From some released list? No trial? More and more I think this is the reason the list never comes out.

More importantly than Epstein having any names, is the fact the Feds already had the names bc Epstein was one of their many assets. Thats the real story being killed here.

Alexa Acosta confirmed Epstein was working with the Feds a decade before he was arrested and killed.

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I think the biggest problem with releasing a list is then what? Arrests and trials? I'm guessing there's a statute of limitations. If not, do the girls testify over and over until the whole list isn't behind bars? I doubt that happens.

So then what? They all become targets without a trial? They don't get an opportunity to clear their names?

I'm definitely against pedos walking free. I just don't see a way that justice gets done here.

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Yes. Ruin them. Destroy their lives. Every last one.

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From some released list? No trial? More and more I think this is the reason the list never comes out.

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Send them all to trial, we all want that.of course you don't just release a list of names but you absolutely start charging people with crimes. These investigations have been going on for 15 years. They have names and evidence of people being involved.

What the American people do with that information they gained about a bunch of powerful billionaires controlling the world…. Well, maybe a reset is needed.

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More importantly than Epstein having any names, is the fact the Feds already had the names bc Epstein was one of their many assets. Thats the real story being killed here.

Alexa Acosta confirmed Epstein was working with the Feds a decade before he was arrested and killed.

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yeah man

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I think the biggest problem with releasing a list is then what? Arrests and trials? I'm guessing there's a statute of limitations. If not, do the girls testify over and over until the whole list isn't behind bars? I doubt that happens.

So then what? They all become targets without a trial? They don't get an opportunity to clear their names?

I'm definitely against pedos walking free. I just don't see a way that justice gets done here.

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Yes. Ruin them. Destroy their lives. Every last one.

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From some released list? No trial? More and more I think this is the reason the list never comes out.

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Send them all to trial, we all want that.of course you don't just release a list of names but you absolutely start charging people with crimes. These investigations have been going on for 15 years. They have names and evidence of people being involved.

What the American people do with that information they gained about a bunch of powerful billionaires controlling the world…. Well, maybe a reset is needed.

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Maybe they are just biding their time for the statutes of limitations to expire.

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before this week I was firmly in the camp that the list didn't exist and the trump campaign just pretended it did for populist appeal/to get elected, but after the way they've responded this last few months I'm starting to believe it's real and he's either on it or heavily complicit in the coverup. there's no other explanation that makes more sense.

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So if there is a list, he's on it and complicit in the coverup, who else hits that trifecta?

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before this week I was firmly in the camp that the list didn't exist and the trump campaign just pretended it did for populist appeal/to get elected, but after the way they've responded this last few months I'm starting to believe it's real and he's either on it or heavily complicit in the coverup. there's no other explanation that makes more sense.

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So if there is a list, he's on it and complicit in the coverup, who else hits that trifecta?

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I know it's a surprising answer from what most of you call a radical leftist, but the answer is Hillary. There's nothing she wouldn't do to cover up for President Clinton.

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before this week I was firmly in the camp that the list didn't exist and the trump campaign just pretended it did for populist appeal/to get elected, but after the way they've responded this last few months I'm starting to believe it's real and he's either on it or heavily complicit in the coverup. there's no other explanation that makes more sense.

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So if there is a list, he's on it and complicit in the coverup, who else hits that trifecta?

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I know it's a surprising answer from what most of you call a radical leftist, but the answer is Hillary. There's nothing she wouldn't do to cover up for President Clinton.

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We could speculate about almost any rich, connected politician but the guy who has owned and operated a Miss Teen USA pageant, bragged about leering at them in their changing rooms, and was a known personal friend of a child trafficker remains the top of the list.

Need to remember with the MAGA crowd that every accusation is a confession.

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I would sell your entire portfolio when the market opens on Monday. We are about to go through some dark times.

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Did you sell it all this morning?

What is up with this?

Ghislaine Maxwell willing to reveal Jeffrey Epstein’s “client list," but is being blocked by Congressional Republicans — Daily Mail

— NewsWire (@NewsWire_US) July 14, 2025

Why isn't the left banging the table and calling for release? Seems like a good line of attack on Trump

Because both democrats and republicans, including Hollywood elites were involved with Epstein.

Why are the Epstein files still hidden? Who are the rich & powerful being protected?

On Tuesday, I'm introducing an amendment to force a vote demanding the FULL Epstein files be released to the public. The Speaker must call a vote & put every Congress member on record.

— Ro Khanna (@RoKhanna) July 13, 2025

The new Pam Bondi inaction figure is out, don't expect too much pic.twitter.com/M69qagbolZ

— Hatton, America is back (@jnottah) July 8, 2025

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I would sell your entire portfolio when the market opens on Monday. We are about to go through some dark times.

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Did you sell it all this morning?

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Sold to Peter Thiel. Market will keep going up, nothing to see on Epstein.

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I would sell your entire portfolio when the market opens on Monday. We are about to go through some dark times.

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Did you sell it all this morning?

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Sold to Peter Thiel. Market will keep going up, nothing to see on Epstein.

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So you sold your entire portfolio directly to Peter Thiel? I wasn't aware that he was buying from individuals.

Why would you sell if you thought the market was going to keep going up?

Still think we are about to go through some dark times? In what way?