Which is why he banned him from Mar-a-Lago.aggiegolfer2012 said:
I'm not saying he partook in anything, but he was absolutely associated with the guy, and I absolutely believe he knew what was going on.
The client list is probably a list full of folks like the Clinton's and Trump's of the world that will all claim if it's leaked that they're being defamed because they didn't know what was really going on, but they did.
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This should be the "we are not a serious nation" thread. Or rather, "we are an occupied nation" thread.
The "officials" also confirmed Epstien was lying when he claimed Tartaglione tried to strangle him to death.
So we have a prior incident of Epstein being injured in the neck by another person trying to kill him. That person is totally cleared of wrong doing, and the public is told "nothing to see here". Then not long after Epstein is found strangled to death in his cell, and again we are told "nothing to see here."
Patel and Bingino have no choice. If there isnt clear cut evidence he was murdered, they have to go with the narrative. Since they are the ones now in charge, they cant say "we dont know" or engage in any speculation. There can be no middle ground once you are at the helm and become part of the machine.
So we have a prior incident of Epstein being injured in the neck by another person trying to kill him. That person is totally cleared of wrong doing, and the public is told "nothing to see here". Then not long after Epstein is found strangled to death in his cell, and again we are told "nothing to see here."
Patel and Bingino have no choice. If there isnt clear cut evidence he was murdered, they have to go with the narrative. Since they are the ones now in charge, they cant say "we dont know" or engage in any speculation. There can be no middle ground once you are at the helm and become part of the machine.
I don't think this is a Trump or Biden thing. I think the players involved are too high profile and they don't want to release it. It's just a they live a life above law due to money, fame, and power that we don't.
It's actually the most plausible explanation. The many conspiracy theories are more interesting but likely he was just a slimy guy that ingratiated himself with and manipulated targeted persons with wealth and influence, which is actually not that surprising of a thing to find, as it's always happening amongst and around the wealthy and politically connected.
He was into creepy scummy stiff with teenage girls and probably used that angle to manipulate others, in a creepy And obviously illegal way, but I don't think it is a given he was involved in deeper or more complex conspiracies than that. He might have made some enemies that he was afraid of however and have decided that he wasn't prison material and couldn't live with losing his wealth and influence. Who knows? I'm not saying Trust 100% it was a simple suicide but it is still the most likely to me.
He was into creepy scummy stiff with teenage girls and probably used that angle to manipulate others, in a creepy And obviously illegal way, but I don't think it is a given he was involved in deeper or more complex conspiracies than that. He might have made some enemies that he was afraid of however and have decided that he wasn't prison material and couldn't live with losing his wealth and influence. Who knows? I'm not saying Trust 100% it was a simple suicide but it is still the most likely to me.
He was a spy and therefore the government will never in a million years reveal anything about it.
Burn. It. All. Down.
Queso1 said:
I hope you now understand that they're all corrupt. Frankly, these guys may be worse because they were elected to destroy the deep state
They were elected to remove the few remaining watchdogs and guardrails. But Trump and his team are so adept at slight a hand and sewing doubt and distrust most people have no clue. Just keep hating those "others" and trust and believe in me. Simple genuis effective.
deddog said:
Listen to Kash Patel's interview with Rogan, Epstein had tried to commit suicide before. He definitely had a lot of incentive to commit suicide ( and of course to be suicided) -
Kash Patel goes into how much the FBI hid from the incoming administration . So they didn't know this evidence existed.
Doesn't mean that he wasn't killed of course.
Good thing the new administration came in and cleared everything up.
deddog said:
Listen to Kash Patel's interview with Rogan, Epstein had tried to commit suicide before. He definitely had a lot of incentive to commit suicide ( and of course to be suicided) -
Kash Patel goes into how much the FBI hid from the incoming administration . So they didn't know this evidence existed.
Doesn't mean that he wasn't killed of course.
That was a good episode and I left believing him. We all believed there was a massive coverup of this thing and he made the case that they believed it too. Then when they got there the evidence simply didn't support that narrative. The fact that there is video of his cell showing no foul play is extremely frustrating because that would have shut down that whole narrative yet the Biden FBI refused to do so.
Trump was on the list according to Elon so the only reasonable conspiracy is that he shut it down.
Old McDonald said:
bondi earlier this year: "the list is on my desk to review"
bondi now: "there is no list"
either way she's a shameless liar
I'm inclined to agree. I certainly want to hear her explain this one. Of I'd also like the Biden Admin to explain why they suppressed the video of his cell that didn't show foul play. Maybe we'll get those right after we get the thousands of hours of video from the capital from Jan 6, 2021.
This is just today's reminder that the system is far too corrupt to be fixed.
How convenient! We're supposed to just move on now.
AWKWARD
🚨Today I met with President Trump, VP JD Vance, AG Pam Bondi, and FBI Director Kash Patel in the Oval Office
— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) February 27, 2025
They handed me a binder copy of the Epstein Files
This is the most transparent administration in American history
The best part? This is just the start. AG Bondi… pic.twitter.com/A4MRVuPeVh
The Trapper Keeper Brigade is not having their best day ever.
" Client List " of course there was not a Client List. There were people that he supplied female companionship but these guys are not paying him for like they would a regular pimp. I doubt the Prince of England and the other high values associates left a paper trail of payments.
Likely an Intelligence Agency Asset so the ridiculous story of " Nothing to See Here " will continue
Likely an Intelligence Agency Asset so the ridiculous story of " Nothing to See Here " will continue
Disappointing. Is it possible this is true?
FobTies said:
In a prior prison housing arrangement there was an attempt to take his life by an ex dirty cop named Tartaglione. Epstein didn't beat his own azz in that situation. You dont ever hear much about that.
FYI that story was debunked and Tartaglione was cleared of any wrongdoing with regard to Epstein.
I heard a theory a while back that makes the most sense: the client list has so many heads of state for other nations that releasing the list would cause panic all over the world. Regarding Epstein's death who knows what happened.
It's already too delayed. 👇 pic.twitter.com/YDBCuqd3cV
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— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 7, 2025
Epstein and Maxwell could be 100% guilty of everything alleged AND:BigHitterDaLama said:
And yet Ghislaine maxwell is locked up for serving up young ones to epstein and his pals.
Cool to get convicted of something that didn't apparently exist.
a) He could have killed himself
b) They didn't have a list of all the people involved
hth
He may have not been murdered, but he was left unobserved long enough to be able to hang himself with a bedsheet. That is the conspiracy.
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no one of substance ever goes to jail only the ones that serve them do. elite screw little girls and epstein is murdered and maxwell is in jail and this never happened.
Ag with kids said:Epstein and Maxwell could be 100% guilty of everything alleged AND:BigHitterDaLama said:
And yet Ghislaine maxwell is locked up for serving up young ones to epstein and his pals.
Cool to get convicted of something that didn't apparently exist.
a) He could have killed himself
b) They didn't have a list of all the people involved
hth
I don't think anyone is surprised if they didn't leave a list of all their criminal pals laying around to be found.
The list was supposed to be compiled by the FBI based on their investigation. And should have resulted in people getting arrested. If they didn't produce a list of conspirators literally what have they been doing all these years? And why in the world is it too late to investigate and put a list together?
Juan Lee Pettimore said:FobTies said:
In a prior prison housing arrangement there was an attempt to take his life by an ex dirty cop named Tartaglione. Epstein didn't beat his own azz in that situation. You dont ever hear much about that.
FYI that story was debunked and Tartaglione was cleared of any wrongdoing with regard to Epstein.
Yep, just like the Hunter laptop was debunked and confirmed to be Russia disninfo. Just like Epstien being murdered was debunked. Just like COVID coming from a lab was debunked.
Both guards and Epstein accused Tartaglione of assaulting Epstein, however Ts lawyers claimed he was framed bc he had complained about prison living conditions. Conveniently, there was no video in that case either. After Epstein was found dead, this story was totally killed.
But hey, a dirty cop serving life for murders wouldn't be in a position to attempt to kill someone, and if he did, he certainly wouldn't lie about it.
There is no evidence to support a case against anyone. Ddin't you read the memo?Sq 17 said:
" Client List " of course there was not a Client List. There were people that he supplied female companionship but these guys are not paying him for like they would a regular pimp. I doubt the Prince of England and the other high values associates left a paper trail of payments.
Likely an Intelligence Agency Asset so the ridiculous story of " Nothing to See Here " will continue
I have always said here there is no "list" to disclose. So that does not bother me.
But not charging a single man for having these girls trafficked to them? That is indefensible
What’s the time? Oh look, it’s no-one-has-been-arrested-o’clock again … pic.twitter.com/CO9xJz68Tf
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) July 7, 2025
I'm Gipper
Geminiv said:deddog said:
Listen to Kash Patel's interview with Rogan, Epstein had tried to commit suicide before. He definitely had a lot of incentive to commit suicide ( and of course to be suicided) -
Kash Patel goes into how much the FBI hid from the incoming administration . So they didn't know this evidence existed.
Doesn't mean that he wasn't killed of course.
Good thing the new administration came in and cleared everything up.
They are fighting from behind in everything. Again , listen to the interview. A large part of the issue is folks making assertions on social media and memes like the Epstein one. Once the actual evidence comes out no one believes it. Same thing happened to Rittenhouse.
My biggest issue is that it is now irrefutable that Bondi is not an honest person, at least professionally speaking. This is a big deal, as the DoJ is still such a powerful institution and to yet again not trust the very top of the leadership to be honest dissolves a lot of hope moving forward as to changes/prosecutions.91AggieLawyer said:
I argued back when this happened that the case for suicide was actually stronger than the alternative. "They" had all that time to kill him when he wasn't in custody and waited until he was, which didn't make a whole lot of sense.
HOWEVER, the idea that he didn't have a client list is beyond preposterous. How the hell did he grow his fortune? Have a private island? LIVE? He had no other means of income and his cover of being a financial whatever was blown sky high. He didn't know stock options from the wishbone option.
And, even if evidence has been 'disappeared' by nefarious factions in the DoJ/FBI, or only contained images/video of Epstein himself with under-age girls etc, that could have been made clear.
“Went missing” pic.twitter.com/UVNrrr9gyD
— ALX 🇺🇸 (@alx) July 7, 2025
There still are some credible persons defending this as logical/true, but at the same time I just think it is sticking to a story line for them, even as here below, at this point:
Trump Officials made promises about “Epstein Files” before they had the first clue about what that description meant.
— Shipwreckedcrew (@shipwreckedcrew) July 7, 2025
Everyone has been propagating a myth as if it was fact.
Yes there are reports and videos. It’s a child porn case. Evidence in a child porn case is never…
I posted that because I respect his analyses/experience at DoJ and private practice etc, but I think he's just wrong here.
I listened to the interview. I thought he came across very credible (aside from his comment on limitations) and I don't think he is covering anything up.
"Fighting from behind" is not an excuse here. They concluded there is nothing more to prosecute. Right or wong, that is 100% on the new administration; they can't blame anyone else for that.
I( have no clue what that Rittenhouse comment is supposed to mean)
I'm Gipper
"Fighting from behind" is not an excuse here. They concluded there is nothing more to prosecute. Right or wong, that is 100% on the new administration; they can't blame anyone else for that.
I( have no clue what that Rittenhouse comment is supposed to mean)
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In terms of actual AG work, I like what she is doing. But in terms of media appearances and public relations, she is a disaster!Quote:
My biggest issue is that it is now irrefutable that Bondi is not an honest person, at least professionally speaking.
I'm Gipper
So Guillaine Maxwell is in jail for not trafficking anyone then, as well?
Exactly, this is total BS. There is apparently someone really important on the list and we'll never know in our lifetime.Waffledynamics said:
Oh really? Now there's footage? I was told the cameras stopped working.
Total BS.
No.BadMoonRisin said:
So Guillaine Maxwell is in jail for not trafficking anyone then, as well?
I'm Gipper
The footage Bongino said would be released.
Community note points out the problem.
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Community note points out the problem.
🚨BREAKING: The reported full 11-hour video outside of Jeffrey Epstein's cell has been published on the DOJ's website, showing no one entering the cell. pic.twitter.com/3t1dGmigaZ
— Bo Loudon (@BoLoudon) July 7, 2025
I'm Gipper
Why does a "client list" need to exist? Aren't there numerous young women that were trafficked that could name names? This whole situation is so bizarre.
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