DOJ: Epstein killed himself, no client list

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L7 WEENIE
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Im Gipper said:

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Farmer_J said:


I guess Bondi, Kash, and Bongino werent willing to die for their country.


Kash is run by Mossad


I guess Trump is too, right?
I didn't say that.
zephyr88
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Face it... the ruling class takes care of the ruling class.

Im Gipper
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L7 WEENIE said:

Im Gipper said:

L7 WEENIE said:

Farmer_J said:


I guess Bondi, Kash, and Bongino werent willing to die for their country.


Kash is run by Mossad


I guess Trump is too, right?
I didn't say that.
So he's too dumb to figure it out?


I'm Gipper
AgDev01
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Im Gipper said:

L7 WEENIE said:

Im Gipper said:

L7 WEENIE said:

Farmer_J said:


I guess Bondi, Kash, and Bongino werent willing to die for their country.


Kash is run by Mossad


I guess Trump is too, right?
I didn't say that.
So he's too dumb to figure it out?




no he is potentially protecting himself and definitely protecting those who Epstein pimped out underaged girls to.
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L7 WEENIE said:

AgEngr12 said:

L7 WEENIE said:

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infinity ag said:

Im Gipper said:




Basic question.

If Trump was in the Epstein sex parties, then obviously he would know that talking about the list if it existed would be self-destructive. Then why did he say he would release it? If I were Trump, I would just not bring it up.

Does not make sense to me.
If the government had evidence Trump was involved in the Epstein sex parties the last administration would've been tripping over themselves to release that information.
not when people of both parties are on the list. Not when Mossad, the Mega Group and AIPAC had so much influence around Epstein.
I find the argument that they couldn't leak Trump being involved without uncovering the whole operation an extremely weak one.

The FBI could just crop out one little excerpt, leak it to their media platform of choice, and BOOM his run for term 2 would've been over. Instead, they were practically making stuff up to try and put him in jail.
Then why wouldn't Trump do the same with his adversaries? This thing is deeper than dems vs republicans….

Read about all of the connections between Epstein and Maxwell had with Mossad and the Mega Group
Well if Elon can't explain how he knows all of this is it because he's on the list too?

Or is he just pulling stuff out of his butt to mess with people that he's mad at?
Just gotta execute
Rapier108
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And of course out comes the anti-Semitism and blaming the Jews.

This playbook is so old it has mold growing on it dating back 2000 years.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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AgEngr12 said:

L7 WEENIE said:

AgEngr12 said:

L7 WEENIE said:

AgEngr12 said:

infinity ag said:

Im Gipper said:




Basic question.

If Trump was in the Epstein sex parties, then obviously he would know that talking about the list if it existed would be self-destructive. Then why did he say he would release it? If I were Trump, I would just not bring it up.

Does not make sense to me.
If the government had evidence Trump was involved in the Epstein sex parties the last administration would've been tripping over themselves to release that information.
not when people of both parties are on the list. Not when Mossad, the Mega Group and AIPAC had so much influence around Epstein.
I find the argument that they couldn't leak Trump being involved without uncovering the whole operation an extremely weak one.

The FBI could just crop out one little excerpt, leak it to their media platform of choice, and BOOM his run for term 2 would've been over. Instead, they were practically making stuff up to try and put him in jail.
Then why wouldn't Trump do the same with his adversaries? This thing is deeper than dems vs republicans….

Read about all of the connections between Epstein and Maxwell had with Mossad and the Mega Group
Well if Elon can't explain how he knows all of this is it because he's on the list too?

Or is he just pulling stuff out of his butt to mess with people that he's mad at?


No idea man. I'd bet he has real info based in the access he's had, connections he has and ,well, money…. But I don't know

We do know that Epstein brought a lot of powerful people to his island. We do know that Trump and Clinton hung out with him. We do know that Epstein and Maxwell had deep connections to Mossad and the Mega Group
Old McDonald
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"but trump banned epstein from maralago"
"but if trump were involved the dems and media would have released it by now"

if you're still hanging on to this cope, it's time to let go. it's time to accept that trump is not an outsider to this world, he was very much in it for most of his life. it defies logic to believe that there's a coordination effort to protect rich and powerful people from being exposed, and that somehow this protection doesn't extend to trump as well.

this doesn't mean he was personally soliciting minors, but it's not debatable at this point that he's part of the cover-up. best case scenario, the list was always bull**** and he just used it as a prop to drum up populist support against the elites, and is now content to leave that support holding the bag.
L7 WEENIE
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Rapier108 said:

And of course out comes the anti-Semitism and blaming the Jews.

This playbook is so old it has mold growing on it dating back 2000 years.


Not liking Mossad, the Mega Group, AIPAC or the leaders in Israel does not equal anti-semitism. Stop with that.
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AgDev01 said:

Im Gipper said:

L7 WEENIE said:

Im Gipper said:

L7 WEENIE said:

Farmer_J said:


I guess Bondi, Kash, and Bongino werent willing to die for their country.


Kash is run by Mossad


I guess Trump is too, right?
I didn't say that.
So he's too dumb to figure it out?




no he is potentially protecting himself and definitely protecting those who Epstein pimped out underaged girls to.

Depends on what the meaning of "pimped" is.


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AgEngr12
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L7 WEENIE said:

AgEngr12 said:

L7 WEENIE said:

AgEngr12 said:

L7 WEENIE said:

AgEngr12 said:

infinity ag said:

Im Gipper said:




Basic question.

If Trump was in the Epstein sex parties, then obviously he would know that talking about the list if it existed would be self-destructive. Then why did he say he would release it? If I were Trump, I would just not bring it up.

Does not make sense to me.
If the government had evidence Trump was involved in the Epstein sex parties the last administration would've been tripping over themselves to release that information.
not when people of both parties are on the list. Not when Mossad, the Mega Group and AIPAC had so much influence around Epstein.
I find the argument that they couldn't leak Trump being involved without uncovering the whole operation an extremely weak one.

The FBI could just crop out one little excerpt, leak it to their media platform of choice, and BOOM his run for term 2 would've been over. Instead, they were practically making stuff up to try and put him in jail.
Then why wouldn't Trump do the same with his adversaries? This thing is deeper than dems vs republicans….

Read about all of the connections between Epstein and Maxwell had with Mossad and the Mega Group
Well if Elon can't explain how he knows all of this is it because he's on the list too?

Or is he just pulling stuff out of his butt to mess with people that he's mad at?


No idea man. I'd bet he has real info based in the access he's had, connections he has and ,well, money…. But I don't know

We do know that Epstein brought a lot of powerful people to his island. We do know that Trump and Clinton hung out with him. We do know that Epstein and Maxwell had deep connections to Mossad and the Mega Group
We know Elon's schmoozed with them as well in his past.

He's been wilding out for awhile now. If he knows something, he needs to fess up. Otherwise I don't find his word very credible.
Just gotta execute
L7 WEENIE
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AgEngr12 said:

L7 WEENIE said:

AgEngr12 said:

L7 WEENIE said:

AgEngr12 said:

L7 WEENIE said:

AgEngr12 said:

infinity ag said:

Im Gipper said:




Basic question.

If Trump was in the Epstein sex parties, then obviously he would know that talking about the list if it existed would be self-destructive. Then why did he say he would release it? If I were Trump, I would just not bring it up.

Does not make sense to me.
If the government had evidence Trump was involved in the Epstein sex parties the last administration would've been tripping over themselves to release that information.
not when people of both parties are on the list. Not when Mossad, the Mega Group and AIPAC had so much influence around Epstein.
I find the argument that they couldn't leak Trump being involved without uncovering the whole operation an extremely weak one.

The FBI could just crop out one little excerpt, leak it to their media platform of choice, and BOOM his run for term 2 would've been over. Instead, they were practically making stuff up to try and put him in jail.
Then why wouldn't Trump do the same with his adversaries? This thing is deeper than dems vs republicans….

Read about all of the connections between Epstein and Maxwell had with Mossad and the Mega Group
Well if Elon can't explain how he knows all of this is it because he's on the list too?

Or is he just pulling stuff out of his butt to mess with people that he's mad at?


No idea man. I'd bet he has real info based in the access he's had, connections he has and ,well, money…. But I don't know

We do know that Epstein brought a lot of powerful people to his island. We do know that Trump and Clinton hung out with him. We do know that Epstein and Maxwell had deep connections to Mossad and the Mega Group
We know Elon's schmoozed with them as well in his past.

He's been wilding out for awhile now. If he knows something, he needs to fess up. Otherwise I don't find his word very credible.

He's probably in the circle too. I don't know. I'm not defending Musk here
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We also know that Trump only went on the planes from Palm Springs to Newark with either family members or other business people, not to the island and kicked the guy out of his life over 20 years ago.

We absolutely know that Bill Clinton and Bill Gates did go to the island.

And if y'all really think that Trump was connected to the clients and it didn't come out over the witch hunt of the last four years that's pretty crazy. They tried to take him down every which way.
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Lot of cope going on here.
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AgEngr12
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L7 WEENIE said:

AgEngr12 said:

L7 WEENIE said:

AgEngr12 said:

L7 WEENIE said:

AgEngr12 said:

L7 WEENIE said:

AgEngr12 said:

infinity ag said:

Im Gipper said:




Basic question.

If Trump was in the Epstein sex parties, then obviously he would know that talking about the list if it existed would be self-destructive. Then why did he say he would release it? If I were Trump, I would just not bring it up.

Does not make sense to me.
If the government had evidence Trump was involved in the Epstein sex parties the last administration would've been tripping over themselves to release that information.
not when people of both parties are on the list. Not when Mossad, the Mega Group and AIPAC had so much influence around Epstein.
I find the argument that they couldn't leak Trump being involved without uncovering the whole operation an extremely weak one.

The FBI could just crop out one little excerpt, leak it to their media platform of choice, and BOOM his run for term 2 would've been over. Instead, they were practically making stuff up to try and put him in jail.
Then why wouldn't Trump do the same with his adversaries? This thing is deeper than dems vs republicans….

Read about all of the connections between Epstein and Maxwell had with Mossad and the Mega Group
Well if Elon can't explain how he knows all of this is it because he's on the list too?

Or is he just pulling stuff out of his butt to mess with people that he's mad at?


No idea man. I'd bet he has real info based in the access he's had, connections he has and ,well, money…. But I don't know

We do know that Epstein brought a lot of powerful people to his island. We do know that Trump and Clinton hung out with him. We do know that Epstein and Maxwell had deep connections to Mossad and the Mega Group
We know Elon's schmoozed with them as well in his past.

He's been wilding out for awhile now. If he knows something, he needs to fess up. Otherwise I don't find his word very credible.

He's probably in the circle too. I don't know. I'm not defending Musk here
I've accepted we'll never truly know.

And fwiw, I'm with you that Epstein being part of intelligence tracks.
Just gotta execute
infinity ag
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I don't have any info but as of now, here are my thoughts.

1. Trump did visit Epstein and knew him but did NOT take part in any sex parties with underage girls.
2. The client list exists.
3. Trump wanted to release the client list but then he saw some uncomfortable names, even of some foreigners so decided he did not want to rock the boat.
4. Trump ordered Pam Bondi to STFU about the client list. He is the boss, so she obeyed and was put in an uncomfortable position and had to lie about it hurting her credibility.
5. Kash is Pam's underling so he has to fall in line to keep his job. He did.
6. Elon knows diddly squat, but he likes to shoot his mouth off and he now hates Trump, so he decided to get back at him by making dark insinuations. Elon isn't known for thinking things through (anymore).


That's where I stand on this. If new info comes, I will change my views.
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I think that is likely the case. I cant help but also notice Bibi was in town when this news broke. I have little doubt mossad is/was running a blackmail operation via epstein and pdiddy,
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the gas lighting is so obvious, and the new prison video that wasn't supposed to exist is so conspicuously missing 1 minute of footage,

I think the current powers want to keep folks (like me) with an appetite for justice in this specific area, snarling. simmering. I feel like I'm part of a group whose volume can be adjusted in order turn up heat on the blackmailed perverted predators, if needed. I think a lot of kids were sacrificed for this power system. It's sinful no matter who wields the power.
Im Gipper
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Didn't you hear?The one minute of missing video is normal. That's how it always is. They will give us a video later on that.

I'm Gipper
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Rapier108 said:

And of course out comes the anti-Semitism and blaming the Jews.

This playbook is so old it has mold growing on it dating back 2000 years.


Okay, Moloch. Thanks for the reminder.
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Rapier108 said:

And of course out comes the anti-Semitism and blaming the Jews.

This playbook is so old it has mold growing on it dating back 2000 years.


Who here is blaming "the Jews?" The antisemitism crap is so exhausting when speaking on legitimate criticisms of the Israeli GOVERNMENT
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Rapier108 said:

And of course out comes the anti-Semitism and blaming the Jews.

This playbook is so old it has mold growing on it dating back 2000 years.


You're doing exactly what people often criticize the left for. Ignoring ignoring and just accusing those presenting information of being racist.
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From a 3 time Trump voter, this "no Epstein list" and "Epstein didn't kill himself," is a pretty good sized black mark on his 2nd term. Especially since it was promised during his campaign. For all of the good he's done with the southern border, keeping the tax cuts, attempting peace in the Middle East, etc this just doesn't sit right with a lot of people, including myself. The Democrats/liberals were twisting in the wind with idiots like Hakeem Jeffries, AOC, Crockett, Newscum Bernie as mouthpieces of their party and something like this is how we might not end up with a back to back Republican President. A lot of people on both sides are rightfully pissed. We went from "the Epstein client list will be released any day now," to "well never mind there wasn't a list." If so, then why the hell is Maxwell still in prison if there was no child sex trafficking? Haven't really heard a peep about her in a very long time. It also truly shows that the elites are still calling most of the shots, no matter who is in charge.

We almost had this thing in the bag for 26 & 28, and now I think a lot of MAGA people are turned off, despite all of the good that has occurred. As much as I love Vance, I almost think that Desantis would be a better option at winning in 28, as he really doesn't have any ties to Trump like Vance does. This whole thing just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. There are many good cabinet appointees, Pam Blondei certainly was not one of them. The fact that the largest city in the U.S. is close to electing a Muslim socialist mayor has me genuinely concerned for the future.
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Rapier108 said:

And of course out comes the anti-Semitism and blaming the Jews.

This playbook is so old it has mold growing on it dating back 2000 years.


What do you mean "blaming the Jews"? For what?

Did Epstein (a Jew) have connections with Israel intel agents and the Wexners (more Jews)?

Is the Jewish population responsible? No
Are Jews predominantly involved in this scandal? Yes
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AgEngr12 said:

L7 WEENIE said:

AgEngr12 said:

L7 WEENIE said:

AgEngr12 said:

L7 WEENIE said:

AgEngr12 said:

infinity ag said:

Im Gipper said:




Basic question.

If Trump was in the Epstein sex parties, then obviously he would know that talking about the list if it existed would be self-destructive. Then why did he say he would release it? If I were Trump, I would just not bring it up.

Does not make sense to me.
If the government had evidence Trump was involved in the Epstein sex parties the last administration would've been tripping over themselves to release that information.
not when people of both parties are on the list. Not when Mossad, the Mega Group and AIPAC had so much influence around Epstein.
I find the argument that they couldn't leak Trump being involved without uncovering the whole operation an extremely weak one.

The FBI could just crop out one little excerpt, leak it to their media platform of choice, and BOOM his run for term 2 would've been over. Instead, they were practically making stuff up to try and put him in jail.
Then why wouldn't Trump do the same with his adversaries? This thing is deeper than dems vs republicans….

Read about all of the connections between Epstein and Maxwell had with Mossad and the Mega Group
Well if Elon can't explain how he knows all of this is it because he's on the list too?

Or is he just pulling stuff out of his butt to mess with people that he's mad at?


No idea man. I'd bet he has real info based in the access he's had, connections he has and ,well, money…. But I don't know

We do know that Epstein brought a lot of powerful people to his island. We do know that Trump and Clinton hung out with him. We do know that Epstein and Maxwell had deep connections to Mossad and the Mega Group
We know Elon's schmoozed with them as well in his past.

He's been wilding out for awhile now. If he knows something, he needs to fess up. Otherwise I don't find his word very credible.

uhh......

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Rapier108 said:

And of course out comes the anti-Semitism and blaming the Jews.

This playbook is so old it has mold growing on it dating back 2000 years.
And even Jesus had his own problems with em...



clobby
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The swamp is deeper than ever.
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David_Puddy said:

From a 3 time Trump voter, this "no Epstein list" and "Epstein didn't kill himself," is a pretty good sized black mark on his 2nd term. Especially since it was promised during his campaign. For all of the good he's done with the southern border, keeping the tax cuts, attempting peace in the Middle East, etc this just doesn't sit right with a lot of people, including myself. The Democrats/liberals were twisting in the wind with idiots like Hakeem Jeffries, AOC, Crockett, Newscum Bernie as mouthpieces of their party and something like this is how we might not end up with a back to back Republican President. A lot of people on both sides are rightfully pissed. We went from "the Epstein client list will be released any day now," to "well never mind there wasn't a list." If so, then why the hell is Maxwell still in prison if there was no child sex trafficking? Haven't really heard a peep about her in a very long time. It also truly shows that the elites are still calling most of the shots, no matter who is in charge.

We almost had this thing in the bag for 26 & 28, and now I think a lot of MAGA people are turned off, despite all of the good that has occurred. As much as I love Vance, I almost think that Desantis would be a better option at winning in 28, as he really doesn't have any ties to Trump like Vance does. This whole thing just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. There are many good cabinet appointees, Pam Blondei certainly was not one of them. The fact that the largest city in the U.S. is close to electing a Muslim socialist mayor has me genuinely concerned for the future.
Very well stated. Exactly how I feel.

Small part of me deep down keeps hoping there is more to the story that we just won't know until later and that some type of strategy is being used here. Hard to make sense of it when they were so giddy about releasing this stuff (that no supposedly doesn't exist) just months ago.
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Juan Lee Pettimore said:

Keyno said:

Juan Lee Pettimore said:

MouthBQ98 said:


I want to know where and how he had earned his hundreds of millions of dollars. I think that will point to any sketchy or unlawful activities.



Yes, I don't know a lot about his business life, but I believe this guy was allegedly a tax consultant and didn't even have his CPA…WORTH $500 MILLION????

How on earth is that even possible?

He was Mossad. Do people not realize this at this point?

Look into Les Wexner (Epstein original financial backer) and his "Study Group",


I realize that, but are all "Mossad" agents compensated a HALF OF A BILLION DOLLARS for their efforts?

Not all mossad assets. But seeing as Epstein was running probably the most expansive and influential operation mossad has in the United States- he would be expected to have the financing.
I imagine he made multiple millions from handling Wexners billions over the years. A lot of his reported wealth is assets used to operate his blackmail operation (residences, islands, private jets) and those I imagine were financed by mossad, or other mossad linked rich people.
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then why the hell is Maxwell still in prison if there was no child sex trafficking?
This is strange talking point making the rounds on X.

Read the indictment. Maxwell was specifically accused and convicted of trafficking girls to Epstein. He was the only named client (which rightfully pissed everyone off)

DoJ saying there was no "client list" or blackmail in no way exonerates Maxwell or Epstein!

I'm Gipper
cslifer
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You are right, it doesn't prove either innocent, they could have been the most evil couple in history….BUT…bondi is also saying that nobody else at all was involved…do you really believe that? I do not.
Im Gipper
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My post from page 2:

Ihave always said here there is no "list" to disclose. So that does not bother me.

But not charging a single man for having these girls trafficked to them? That is indefensible


The indictments say there are others "known and unknown". To charge no one else is beyond dereliction of duty.

I'm Gipper
 
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