DOJ: Epstein killed himself, no client list

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dmart90
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In reply to damiond • 6:38p, 7/8/25
Glenn Beck is still a thing?
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6:54p, 7/8/25
Im trying to think how it would play out if there was a "list" not accompanied by indisputable video or eye witness testimony. Without that, anyone named would go on the offensive like we saw with Alan Dershowitz claiming defamation etc.

I personally think that its videos and victims that are the key to accountability, not some "list" that was touted to get elected/appointed. Even with victim accusations, they can still be fended off without proof....as we see here.


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In reply to Texas velvet maestro • 6:58p, 7/8/25
Texas velvet maestro said:
imo this administration is using the blackmail just like they did pre Trump. keeps opposition in line. get nobel prize noms, etc...
But no justice for children. no transparency or righteousness or godliness, Just short-term political strategy.

This is the answer. At the very least, our government wants the leverage on every person on the list. Or worse, our government intelligence agencies were complicit, even indirectly.

That's the only reason it hasn't been released. Or the Ds would have been burning Trump over it for years.

Patel is a liar. Bondi is a liar. Bongino is a liar that disappoints me the most. I would have thought he had enough pride to resign in protest. But clearly, they convinced him it was "for the public good" to lie so brazenly about this and lose all credibility. What a disgrace.
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6:59p, 7/8/25
I listened to Clay Travis's take on this. Insufferable. I had to turn it off. Somehow he turned the topic of Epstein into a lecture to his audience about how rich he (Travis) is. Somehow he made it all about him. What a clown.
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7:03p, 7/8/25
If there was any evidence and a list, wouldn't the previous administration just destroy it before Trump took office?
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In reply to cslifer • 7:04p, 7/8/25
cslifer said:
You are right, it doesn't prove either innocent, they could have been the most evil couple in history….BUT…bondi is also saying that nobody else at all was involved…do you really believe that? I do not.


I do not either. Guess Epstein really had a thing for Bill Clinton enough to hang a painting of him in a dress on his wall. Yet he wasn't involved? Right
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In reply to TheCurl84 • 7:04p, 7/8/25
TheCurl84 said:
I listened to Clay Travis's take on this. Insufferable. I had to turn it off. Somehow he turned the topic of Epstein into a lecture to his audience about how rich he (Travis) is. Somehow he made it all about him. What a clown.


First time listening to him?

I'm Gipper
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In reply to damiond • 7:16p, 7/8/25
damiond said:







Trump said it himself. "Are you still talking about Epstein?"

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In reply to t_J_e_C_x • 7:20p, 7/8/25
Yes. This is one of the most important topics. It's alleged by a Florida state DA Epstein was working for mosssd. So it's of immeasurable importance to know if our politicians and other of extreme influence have been compromised by a foreign intelligence agency.
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In reply to Yukon Cornelius • 7:22p, 7/8/25
Yukon Cornelius said:
Yes. This is one of the most important topics. It's alleged by a Florida state DA Epstein was working for mosssd. So it's of immeasurable importance to know if our politicians and other of extreme influence have been compromised by a foreign intelligence agency.


Completely agree.

So why is Trump brushing Epstein under the rug?
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In reply to t_J_e_C_x • 7:24p, 7/8/25
My possible conclusions:

1. He or his children are involved.
2. He's using it as leverage himself.
3. Israel agreed to the Iran ceasefire if we dropped the Epstein case. (This is the most likely IMO).

The timing of the ceasefire, then the case dropping, Bibi coming to see Trump (for a third time already) leads me to believe it was a back door deal to wind down the wars. Including gaze.
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7:30p, 7/8/25
Ask yourself what is more reliable and damning, a list of names Epstein had as "clients", or direct accusations of forced sex from victims?

Virginia Giuffre named Prince Andrew, who totally shyt the bed when defending himself. Then Alan Dershowitz basically defended and sided with Prince Andrew.

Prince Andrew settled out of court and case was dismissed. In the case of Alan himself, Virginia ultimately signed a statement saying she "may have" missidentified Alan. A few years later she killed herself.
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In reply to Yukon Cornelius • 7:32p, 7/8/25
3 certainly seems plausible. I think the only way we get any names at this point is if some of the girls who were trafficked agree to conduct a group interview with their faces & bodies blacked out & their voices altered. Unfortunately this interview would have to be in a highly secretive location to prevent hits on them from the billionaires and after the interview these girls would have to go into top secret witness protection for the rest of their lives. So basically, we're not ever getting any names. This seems like something Tucker Carlson might go for if it could ever be organized.
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In reply to t_J_e_C_x • 7:34p, 7/8/25
t_J_e_C_x said:
Yukon Cornelius said:
Yes. This is one of the most important topics. It's alleged by a Florida state DA Epstein was working for mosssd. So it's of immeasurable importance to know if our politicians and other of extreme influence have been compromised by a foreign intelligence agency.


Completely agree.

So why is Trump brushing Epstein under the rug?


It's either leverage against Trump or he's using it as leverage against someone else. There is no other explanation.
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7:56p, 7/8/25
The real question is whether or not there is enough evidence to bring criminal charges. That takes more than a list of names. Its possible they determined a costly investigation would end without charges...which might even be worse than swiftly killing the story this way.

Honestly, after watching Prince Andrew and Alan Dershowitz fight the accusations, Im not convinced anything would stick with others. There has to be strong evidence beyond lists and hearsay.

It sucks. Especially bc of how hard they all campaigned on accountability and the explicit promises they made. They need to own up and address that screw up.

The Epstein death is a bit different, hopefully we get more details on that. Haven't seen anything that proves he killed himself.

I think its also likely Epstein was an intel asset for both the CIA and Mousad, which makes it further unlikely anything is investigated.
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8:01p, 7/8/25
The only way what the DoJ is saying makes sense is:

1. Epstein and maybe only a couple others (Prince Andrew) at most were involved in sex with minors.
2. The trove of evidence was either of the girls by themselves or was images downloaded by Epstein or Maxwell, not the incriminating evidence we were led to believe.
3. Epstein had some sort of Madoff-type scheme where he successfully separated rich people from their money. (Given his supposed level of wealth, this is the most difficult part for me to accept.)
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In reply to t_J_e_C_x • 8:37p, 7/8/25
t_J_e_C_x said:
Yukon Cornelius said:
Yes. This is one of the most important topics. It's alleged by a Florida state DA Epstein was working for mosssd. So it's of immeasurable importance to know if our politicians and other of extreme influence have been compromised by a foreign intelligence agency.


Completely agree.

So why is Trump brushing Epstein under the rug?

Have you paid attention to how Trump talks about Israel/Netanyahu?
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In reply to Keyno • 8:39p, 7/8/25
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In reply to Keyno • 8:48p, 7/8/25
Keyno said:
t_J_e_C_x said:
Yukon Cornelius said:
Yes. This is one of the most important topics. It's alleged by a Florida state DA Epstein was working for mosssd. So it's of immeasurable importance to know if our politicians and other of extreme influence have been compromised by a foreign intelligence agency.


Completely agree.

So why is Trump brushing Epstein under the rug?

Have you paid attention to how Trump talks about Israel/Netanyahu?


I agree with this. It's definitely gotta be something to do with Israel.
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8:57p, 7/8/25
Nm
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10:03p, 7/8/25
Pretty obvious if you aren't dead asleep.......and that was from 5 years ago. Probably weren't looking cause everyone was ballz deep in covid forums:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-jewish-american-pedophiles-hide-from-justice-in-israel/
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10:27p, 7/8/25
Why didn't we see the perp walk when Epstein went in the MCC which was permanently closed in 2021 for some reason?
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In reply to Rapier108 • 12:44a, 7/9/25
Rapier108 said:
Garr3ttmj9 said:
Trump didn't ban him until 2007, conveniently a few months before public news broke of Epstein soliciting a minor.
So you joined and bought a star just to post this...
A weird way to blow five bucks for sure. Garr3tmmj9 could have just gotten a five dollar footlong instead and some people are saying has before.
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In reply to dmart90 • 12:55a, 7/9/25
dmart90 said:
Glenn Beck is still a thing?
Yes. He still runs a media empire and has all of the most influeuntial people from across the globe on his show every single day. Was this a serious question on a political forum?

I'm glad to see him and other major conservative voices calling out all of the bullsh we are witnessing.

Bondi, Patel, and Bongino should have been cleaning their desks out before the crack of dawn yesterday.
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In reply to dmart90 • 7:32a, 7/9/25
dmart90 said:
Glenn Beck is still a thing?
And your point?

I am so weary of this type of BS.

It matters not who said what, It does not matter of Glen Beck is still a thing or not.

What matters is what was said and his response to the Epstein situation is spot on, regardless if he is a 'thing' or not.

That includes whether he was wrong before or not.

Each situation should be evaluated stand alone for the content, and should not be looked at through the fallacies that debate propagandist try to use to distract from the subject at hand.

Truth is not impacted by who says it and it should not even be brought into the equation to evaluate what is said.

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In reply to damiond • 7:44a, 7/9/25
damiond said:







Love the consistency. One should always want the truth, effect if it means something negative comes out about their guy.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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7:49a, 7/9/25
I agree with Glenn Beck?


OMG. What's happening?
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In reply to GeorgiAg • 8:36a, 7/9/25
GeorgiAg said:
I agree with Glenn Beck?


OMG. What's happening?


You're shedding your beta.
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Im Gipper
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9:14a, 7/9/25
Worst PR lady ever



Kudos to Wheeler and others not simply falling in line.


Been awfully quiet from some:



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9:33a, 7/9/25
“ How you fellas doin? We about to have us a little screw party in this red Prius over here if you wanna join us.”
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In reply to Dirty_Mike&the_boys • 9:35a, 7/9/25
Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:
That is f'ing hilarous!
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9:48a, 7/9/25
To the people who are just now realizing that Trump is a Democrat who only masquerades as a Republican for the sake of grifting, all I have to say is that the DeSantis supporters told you so.
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In reply to zb008 • 9:52a, 7/9/25
zb008 said:
To the people who are just now realizing that Trump is a Democrat who only masquerades as a Republican for the sake of grifting, all I have to say is that the DeSantis supporters told you so.
Hang in there, Greta.
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9:55a, 7/9/25

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10:04a, 7/9/25
I really hope the heat increases on Trump and the 3 stooges (Bondi/Patel/Bongino) on this one. And it will have to be those influencers who apply the heat.....they are the ones who can call them to account.

I'm fine with the answer being "....this is just too sensitive to reveal", or something along those lines. But they absolutely must be made to feel intense heat for dumping this on Axios on a Sunday night. And, frankly, Bondi should lose her job.
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