DOJ: Epstein killed himself, no client list

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In reply to aginlakeway • 4:23p, 7/14/25
aginlakeway said:
So you think there's a 75% chance that Trump signed off on Epstein's murder. Wow. OK.

Back to the MLB draft for me. Have a great rest of your day.


So what about you?

What % chance do you think Epstein killed himself?

What % chance do you think he was killed without Trump knowing?

Id say those are much less likely. I don't think you took time to read my OPs on his first "suicide" and ties to Intel. Go read those OPs. Epstein was a Mossad asset who was cornered. He had to be taken out. They have done much less to "protect national security".


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In reply to FobTies • 4:41p, 7/14/25
I mean, Bill Barr's father and Epstein have a past don't they? Epstein died under Barr's DOJ, right? I'm honestly shocked no one has interviewed Ghislaine. Tucker, where you at?
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In reply to Im Gipper • 4:48p, 7/14/25
Im Gipper said:
Lara is just being told to say that to get people off Trump. She has no clue what's coming or not coming.


FIFY. Which is my point. The entire group of em, Trump included, got canned at the conference all weekend. The rank and file are going to just shut up and get back to work and let it (rightly) be Trump's issue to clean up.
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In reply to FobTies • 5:31p, 7/14/25
FobTies said:
Yeah, the question is what specific truth did they learn that would cause them to do a 180?

There is a good chance they learned Trump approved the murder of Epstein in 2019, to keep a lid on a Mossad komprmat op. So once in, they realized they had to kill the entire Epstein story all together to keep the public from conclusively learning Epstein was an intel asset.

If Epstein had his hearing/trial, it would be a 100% certainty his ties to Mossad would be exposed. Then there would have to be massive gaslighting campaign to try to dispute that. He had to be murdered. Run of the mill pedos get killed all the time, so a Pedo that threatened the deep state never had a chance.

My man, what exactly do you think is in this Epstein file?
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In reply to aginlakeway • 5:32p, 7/14/25
aginlakeway said:
Francis Macomber said:
aginlakeway said:
FWTXAg said:
El Gallo Blanco said:
Hullabaloonatic said:
captkirk said:
Why isn't the left banging the table and calling for release? Seems like a good line of attack on Trump

To what end? Half the country would vote for Trump regardless of any scandal. He was already a known liar, a serial adulterer, a criminally convicted felon, and a civilly adjudicated rapist. The circumstantial evidence alone makes him a probable accomplice to child traffcking; so what difference would hard evidence make in the face of what the public has already deemed acceptable?

LOL Broseph...yall went ape sh** over the way Trump fed koi fish...because the media overlords told you to. Yall have thrown major fits over much more petty and minor perceived "infractions" by Trump. It's basically nonstop...and there never has to be "an end". Yall just fling poo over everything.

Your leaders are going all out to bring violent illegal gangbangers back to the unites states...just to spite or "own" Trump and his supporters. They have fought him at every turn...both presidential terms. They spied on him, perpetrated fake ass hoaxes, and the feds even tried to influence the 2020 election. We could go on and on and on with examples...

But there's no purpose to go after him over this monumental flip flop on the Epstein stuff? LOLOLOL yeah, ok.

It's crazy that I am witnessing a major uproar from the right directed at Trump and his appointess over the Epstein stuff...and not a freakin peep from the left. If the media was consistent, they would be crucifying him over this. AND FOR ONCE THEY WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE A SOLID CASE AND WOULD BE DOING THEIR JOBS. Make it make sense.

Trump may be on that list, but there has to be a bunch of dems on there as well.


Exactly. Very hard to believe that in this day and age with the information available at our fingertips that people still think it is Republicans Vs. Democrats. It is not and has never been that, they're all on the same team.

It is the Rulers Vs. The Rest of Us and always has been. Both sides fall in line and operate exactly how the elites want them to lol

They just screwed it up with the Epstein stuff though. The people aren't going away, ever.


Yep no one seems to have proof that Trump is a pedo.

yet nobody has proved he's not a pedo, either. /MAGA LOGIC


So there's supposed to be proof of being not guilty?

I think it's important to have proof before calling someone a pedophile.

I think it's important to know what "pedophile" actually means before calling anybody a pedophile, but here we are.
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In reply to Francis Macomber • 5:36p, 7/14/25
Francis Macomber said:
FobTies said:
Yeah, the question is what specific truth did they learn that would cause them to do a 180?

There is a good chance they learned Trump approved the murder of Epstein in 2019, to keep a lid on a Mossad komprmat op. So once in, they realized they had to kill the entire Epstein story all together to keep the public from conclusively learning Epstein was an intel asset.

If Epstein had his hearing/trial, it would be a 100% certainty his ties to Mossad would be exposed. Then there would have to be massive gaslighting campaign to try to dispute that. He had to be murdered. Run of the mill pedos get killed all the time, so a Pedo that threatened the deep state never had a chance.

My man, what exactly do you think is in this Epstein file?


Not sure about the term "file" everyone is throwing around.

More likely than not, Epstein was an asset of Mossad and our intel knows it. Its that simple. The evidence is clear, but no one has the attention span to digest it all.

We know from Alex Acosta spilling the beans, then when later asked directly, he said "I cant answer that due to department guidelines"


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5:54p, 7/14/25
Quote:
What % chance do you think Epstein killed himself?


40% range

Quote:
What % chance do you think he was killed without Trump knowing?


Assuming not a suicide, then 90% chance it was done without Trump knowing.

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6:14p, 7/14/25
Because Trumps is so big on bringing in people that do not have a dog in the fight, rather than the DOJ investigating this, we need a third party, impartial, bi-partisan council to review all of the data around Epstein. Surely, Donald "Truth Social" Trump would think that is only the best way to do it. Could even have a reading of the findings in the White House rose garden, er, car lot next to the giant flag.
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In reply to captkirk • 7:01p, 7/14/25
Careful wording there.

More =/= all. We should demand all evidence outside of the obvious illegality of sharing the CP itself. Even so, we should know every adult who appears in those videos. Anything less will not satisfy.
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In reply to f1ghtintexasaggie • 7:03p, 7/14/25
Spike in odds after Laura Trump said something is coming....


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In reply to No Spin Ag • 11:52p, 7/14/25
No Spin Ag said:
Im Gipper said:
Epstein is over.






Trusting the togetherness government only when your side is in office is why there's the problems with the government to begin with, because no one holds their own to account.


MAGA will scream and demand information and prosecution on Epstein clients, and so will Trump, once he's out of office and the next time Democrats win. Book it.
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In reply to FobTies • 4:14a, 7/15/25
Epstein was Mossad. Epstein was financially backed by billionaire Les Wexner, who is a founder of the Mega Group- a self described Jewish group- which conducts influence operations in the United States on behalf of Mossad and the Israeli government. Epstein was partnered with Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of Robert Maxwell- a Mossad super agent. Epstein himself stated he was intelligence at numerous times.
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6:14a, 7/15/25
Swamp is undefeated in the end, new boss same as old boss!!
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6:50a, 7/15/25
Live by the conspiracy theory sword, die by the conspiracy theory sword.

Some folks in Trump admin and Trump himself when it was useful for political warfare fed fuel to the most extreme versions of conspiracy theories such as massive child sex ring run by evil deep cover Mossad agent Epstein.

And it may very well now be the truth is anti-climatic. That Epstein was a sick pedo who had some shady business dealings and a lot of notable people both Dem and Rep and foreign floated in and out of his orbit, but there is not any actual substantial 'got 'em!' evidence of anything exceptionally nefarious that could be prosecuted beyond Epstein was a sicko and Maxwell who is already locked up. So rather than throw 'guilt by association' dirt on a bunch of other people including some friends and allies, with a lack of credible evidence, they are trying to now say 'oh actually there is nothing to see here!'.

And the huge conspiracy monster that they helped create is now biting them in the ass.

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7:24a, 7/15/25
^ Exactly!! We all know how safe & effective the COVID "vaccine" was and that COVID was from a bat in a wet market. Those conspiracy people are never right! Lolz.
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In reply to VP at Pierce and Pierce • 7:37a, 7/15/25
VP at Pierce and Pierce said:
^ Exactly!! We all know how safe & effective the COVID "vaccine" was and that COVID was from a bat in a wet market. Those conspiracy people are never right! Lolz.


You mean the vaccine Trump helped fast track and complete prior to the end of his term that democrats thought was too dangerous and republicans loved but then they both changed their mind after Trump lost the election?
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In reply to aggiegolfer2012 • 8:33a, 7/15/25
aggiegolfer2012 said:
VP at Pierce and Pierce said:
^ Exactly!! We all know how safe & effective the COVID "vaccine" was and that COVID was from a bat in a wet market. Those conspiracy people are never right! Lolz.


You mean the vaccine Trump helped fast track and complete prior to the end of his term that democrats thought was too dangerous and republicans loved but then they both changed their mind after Trump lost the election?


Yup! These people are swamp creatures with no desire to be honest.
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In reply to Keyno • 8:36a, 7/15/25
Keyno said:
Epstein was Mossad. Epstein was financially backed by billionaire Les Wexner, who is a founder of the Mega Group- a self described Jewish group- which conducts influence operations in the United States on behalf of Mossad and the Israeli government. Epstein was partnered with Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of Robert Maxwell- a Mossad super agent. Epstein himself stated he was intelligence at numerous times.


That's some nice circumstantial evidence. Saying something confidently doesn't make it true.

There are so many holes in that theory it makes Swiss cheese look solid. But I know you're quick to believe anything that potentially makes Israel look like the bad guy.
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In reply to Keyno • 9:00a, 7/15/25
Keyno said:
Epstein was Mossad. Epstein was financially backed by billionaire Les Wexner, who is a founder of the Mega Group- a self described Jewish group- which conducts influence operations in the United States on behalf of Mossad and the Israeli government. Epstein was partnered with Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of Robert Maxwell- a Mossad super agent. Epstein himself stated he was intelligence at numerous times.


Yep. Cat has been out of bag on all that for awhile. Alex Acosta confirmed Epstein was an intel asset. I think an official admission of that is what the pending "new release" will be about. So Patel will have to explain how Epstein working with Mossad/CIA is not a "conspiracy theory".


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In reply to Kvetch • 9:06a, 7/15/25
Kvetch said:

That's some nice circumstantial evidence. Saying something confidently doesn't make it true.


We dont yet formally know if it was Mossad or CIA or combo of both. But we do know Epstein was an intel asset. Alex Acosta confirmed it in congressionalvtestimony privately, and then to a reporter named Vicky Ward publicly.

Then, On July 10, 2019, Acosta was asked directly about confirmation of Epstein being an intel asset.
Why dont you tell us what Acosta said?
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9:10a, 7/15/25
Time for the daily Dice take

“ How you fellas doin? We about to have us a little screw party in this red Prius over here if you wanna join us.”
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In reply to FobTies • 9:14a, 7/15/25
Can you provide where Acosta confirmed this publicly?

All I am aware of is his incredibly odd "non answer" where he would not deny it. Which to me, IS evidence to support Epstein as intel asset.

But you seem to be talking about something else.

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In reply to FobTies • 9:30a, 7/15/25
FobTies said:
Keyno said:
Epstein was Mossad. Epstein was financially backed by billionaire Les Wexner, who is a founder of the Mega Group- a self described Jewish group- which conducts influence operations in the United States on behalf of Mossad and the Israeli government. Epstein was partnered with Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of Robert Maxwell- a Mossad super agent. Epstein himself stated he was intelligence at numerous times.


Yep. Cat has been out of bag on all that for awhile. Alex Acosta confirmed Epstein was an intel asset. I think an official admission of that is what the pending "new release" will be about. So Patel will have to explain how Epstein working with Mossad/CIA is not a "conspiracy theory".


and don't forget who Patel's girlfriend is connected to….
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In reply to Im Gipper • 9:33a, 7/15/25
Its a pay link so will need to go through the internet Archive but here is the quote -


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[Is the Epstein case going to cause a problem [for confirmation hearings]?" Acosta had been asked. Acosta had explained, breezily, apparently, that back in the day he'd had just one meeting on the Epstein case. He'd cut the non-prosecution deal with one of Epstein's attorneys because he had "been told" to back off, that Epstein was above his pay grade. "I was told Epstein 'belonged to intelligence' and to leave it alone," he told his interviewers in the Trump transition, who evidently thought that was a sufficient answer and went ahead and hired Acosta. (The Labor Department had no comment when asked about this.)


https://web.archive.org/web/20250708080231/https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epsteins-sick-story-played-out-for-years-in-plain-sight/
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In reply to AgDev01 • 9:44a, 7/15/25
Thanks, but I was asking about this public confirmation he referred to. I know about the press conference where Acosta said "don't believe everything you read" essentially, but would not deny it.

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9:49a, 7/15/25
On July 23rd 2019, Acosta testified to congress privately. This is where Acosta swore under oath that he was informed Epstein was an intel asset. At a press conference on July 10th, when asked about the report of him being informed Epstein was an intel asset he said:
"I cant address it directly due to our (DOJ) guidelines"...while at same time he criticized reporting generally as unreliable.

Thats whats known as gaslighting. All of you have been gaslit. This post proves it. Acosta is a lawyer, he knows not to lie, so he refuses to answer. The FBI does this all the time citing "not revealing sources or methods" or "long standing precedent" or whatever. Then we and the press let them off the hook. F ALL THAT.

45.50 mark



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In reply to Kvetch • 10:04a, 7/15/25
Kvetch said:
Keyno said:
Epstein was Mossad. Epstein was financially backed by billionaire Les Wexner, who is a founder of the Mega Group- a self described Jewish group- which conducts influence operations in the United States on behalf of Mossad and the Israeli government. Epstein was partnered with Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of Robert Maxwell- a Mossad super agent. Epstein himself stated he was intelligence at numerous times.


That's some nice circumstantial evidence. Saying something confidently doesn't make it true.

There are so many holes in that theory it makes Swiss cheese look solid. But I know you're quick to believe anything that potentially makes Israel look like the bad guy.


What are the holes? I honestly don't even think it's a "theory" at this point. It's essentially an open secret now.
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In reply to Gig em G • 10:08a, 7/15/25
He doesnt have any holes. He thought it would be cool to make a Swiss cheese drive by comment.

He is just another clueless poster ignorant of facts:

A former Mossad officer (Ari Ben-Menashe) claimed Eptein was an intel asset.

Epstein's ex girlfriend claimed he boasted about being a Mossad asset.

Alex Acosta admitted he was informed Epstein was an intel asset when cutting his old plea deal, then when asked by press, said he couldn't answer due.to DOJ guidelines.

Virginia Giuffre claimed Epstein was a Mossad asset with ties to CIA.

Robert Maxwell (Ghislaine's dad) is alleged to have had ties to Mossad with similar blackmail ops.

Steven Hoffenberg, a former biz associate, claimed Epstein was an intel asset involved in blackmail.

John Schindler (former NSA spy) claimed Epstein was part of an Israeli blackmail ops.

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12:43p, 7/15/25
I googled what the heck 'Intelligence Asset' meant and it can mean a variety of things.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset_(intelligence)
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12:47p, 7/15/25
Sticking with the "fake files" story.



Epstein Island and the Manhattan apartment were searched after Obama was out of office and after Comey was gone.

So they planted all the evidence on Epstein's property to be found by Trump's people later?

Trump would be better served saying "We are moving on." Because the more he talks the worse this looks.

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12:50p, 7/15/25
Excuse my ignorance here, but what's the point of discussing if Epstein was an "intel asset" or not? Shouldn't the main question still simply be, who was on his client list?

I don't see why I should care if he was an "intel asset" or not. I'm only interested in who in power engaged in these acts with him, exposing them, and prosecuting them.
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In reply to waitwhat? • 12:52p, 7/15/25
You are asking whether you should care if US intelligence services used a person to entice other to have sex with minors? Really?

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