aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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aginlakeway said:

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Shut up with the questions.

The DOJ just blatantly lied to protect our Idiot in Chief yet again from being named a close friend (hopefully no more than that or this Country is about to blow up) of the most notorious Pedophile in history.

They've done so much lying now about this topic the public isn't going to rest until every single file is released and anyone that is guilty is buried under the jail. I hope the Government knows that at this point.

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So which specific files should be released?

The ones that includes innocent names of associates?

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Yes. At this point they have no choice. They've burned the bridge behind them. They're screwed now.

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How did they burn a bridge? By associating with someone 20 years ago?

What about innocent people that worked for Epstein in minor roles 20 years ago? Anyone who did any business with him that had nothing to do with his sexual activities?

So you are saying that if I did some work for someone 20 years ago -- like designing his home or brokering a sale or handling stock purchase -- and he later turned out to be a pedophile, my name should be released to the pubic?

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Here's what you're not understanding, the people are now out for blood and nothing is going to stop it. DOJ, Bondi, and Trump fubar'd this beyond belief.

Release everything. The FBI has all the information in the world and they know the difference between someone who once brokered a deal and was a friend and someone who was a VERY close friend. Our President seems to be in the latter category. Does that mean he's guilty of pedophilia? Of course not.

But they've screwed this up so badly that it doesn't matter. The way Trump came out kicking and screaming at his voters saying if you still care about this then don't vote for me tells you everything you needed to know about where this was going to end up. The well has already been poisoned with a lot of his supporters, it's over.

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I understand 100%. I also don't trust the FBI.

I'm still trying to understand why it's OK for innocent names to be released after a criminal investigation is complete.

I had some very close friends 20 years ago that I don't see any longer. One of them went to prison earlier this year. Should my name be released if he went to prison for a sexual crime?

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If your friend or you had any notoriety at all similar to Epstein and his friends and the Government had blatantly publicly lied to protect you and others for going on 20 years and it became an open conspiracy then I can guarantee that it would be.

That's what's about to happen with Epstein and friends.

And in this case, a true investigation did NOT take place.

The entire Epstein investigation from the beginning was a giant whitewashing of an espionage operation.

Epstein got an INSANE non Prosecution Agreement from our Government because he is INTELLIGENCE.
That same agreement, and Trump and Co. going to speak with Ghislaine right now is so that they can make a deal, she can clear certain people who are alive to pay for it, and she can be pardoned and WALK. This is how big Politics works. That's why the people are going to burn it all down.

aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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Shut up with the questions.

The DOJ just blatantly lied to protect our Idiot in Chief yet again from being named a close friend (hopefully no more than that or this Country is about to blow up) of the most notorious Pedophile in history.

They've done so much lying now about this topic the public isn't going to rest until every single file is released and anyone that is guilty is buried under the jail. I hope the Government knows that at this point.

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So which specific files should be released?

The ones that includes innocent names of associates?

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Yes. At this point they have no choice. They've burned the bridge behind them. They're screwed now.

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How did they burn a bridge? By associating with someone 20 years ago?

What about innocent people that worked for Epstein in minor roles 20 years ago? Anyone who did any business with him that had nothing to do with his sexual activities?

So you are saying that if I did some work for someone 20 years ago -- like designing his home or brokering a sale or handling stock purchase -- and he later turned out to be a pedophile, my name should be released to the pubic?

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Here's what you're not understanding, the people are now out for blood and nothing is going to stop it. DOJ, Bondi, and Trump fubar'd this beyond belief.

Release everything. The FBI has all the information in the world and they know the difference between someone who once brokered a deal and was a friend and someone who was a VERY close friend. Our President seems to be in the latter category. Does that mean he's guilty of pedophilia? Of course not.

But they've screwed this up so badly that it doesn't matter. The way Trump came out kicking and screaming at his voters saying if you still care about this then don't vote for me tells you everything you needed to know about where this was going to end up. The well has already been poisoned with a lot of his supporters, it's over.

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I understand 100%. I also don't trust the FBI.

I'm still trying to understand why it's OK for innocent names to be released after a criminal investigation is complete.

I had some very close friends 20 years ago that I don't see any longer. One of them went to prison earlier this year. Should my name be released if he went to prison for a sexual crime?

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Did your friend's sex crimes take place when you were friends and paling around with each other?

Jeffrey Epstein was accused of sex trafficking and abusing underage girls in his homes in Manhattan, New York, and Palm Beach, Florida between 2002 and 2005.

Donald Trump's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein reportedly ended in 2004 following a dispute over a Palm Beach mansion.

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If the evidence shows it was likely you knew about the crime and did nothing to prevent it from happening again then yes.

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The answer is no. So my name then shouldn't be released. Right?

rgvag11 said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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Shut up with the questions.

The DOJ just blatantly lied to protect our Idiot in Chief yet again from being named a close friend (hopefully no more than that or this Country is about to blow up) of the most notorious Pedophile in history.

They've done so much lying now about this topic the public isn't going to rest until every single file is released and anyone that is guilty is buried under the jail. I hope the Government knows that at this point.

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So which specific files should be released?

The ones that includes innocent names of associates?

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Yes. At this point they have no choice. They've burned the bridge behind them. They're screwed now.

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How did they burn a bridge? By associating with someone 20 years ago?

What about innocent people that worked for Epstein in minor roles 20 years ago? Anyone who did any business with him that had nothing to do with his sexual activities?

So you are saying that if I did some work for someone 20 years ago -- like designing his home or brokering a sale or handling stock purchase -- and he later turned out to be a pedophile, my name should be released to the pubic?

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Here's what you're not understanding, the people are now out for blood and nothing is going to stop it. DOJ, Bondi, and Trump fubar'd this beyond belief.

Release everything. The FBI has all the information in the world and they know the difference between someone who once brokered a deal and was a friend and someone who was a VERY close friend. Our President seems to be in the latter category. Does that mean he's guilty of pedophilia? Of course not.

But they've screwed this up so badly that it doesn't matter. The way Trump came out kicking and screaming at his voters saying if you still care about this then don't vote for me tells you everything you needed to know about where this was going to end up. The well has already been poisoned with a lot of his supporters, it's over.

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I understand 100%. I also don't trust the FBI.

I'm still trying to understand why it's OK for innocent names to be released after a criminal investigation is complete.

I had some very close friends 20 years ago that I don't see any longer. One of them went to prison earlier this year. Should my name be released if he went to prison for a sexual crime?

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Did your friend's sex crimes take place when you were friends and paling around with each other?

Jeffrey Epstein was accused of sex trafficking and abusing underage girls in his homes in Manhattan, New York, and Palm Beach, Florida between 2002 and 2005.

Donald Trump's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein reportedly ended in 2004 following a dispute over a Palm Beach mansion.

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My friend wasn't convicted of a sex crime. But I do know people that have been convicted of sex crimes. I see all sorts in the recovery community.

Innocent names should not be released after a criminal investigation is complete. IMO.

Becoming circular. We'll see what happens. I still don't think there's any way serious dirt on Trump has been kept quiet for so long.

"I was the most transparent -- and am -- transparent president in history".

"There has never been, ever before, an administration that's been so open and transparent".

If there is no evidence you were involved or knew what was happening then no. I would expect them to redact your name.

If there is evidence you were there when crimes were being committed or would have know about the crimes being committed a la JoePa then yes your name should be published.

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If there is no evidence you were involved or knew what was happening then no. I would expect them to redact your name.

If there is evidence you were there when crimes were being committed or would have know about the crimes being committed a la JoePa then yes your name should be published.

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Now THIS makes sense to me. I support this 100%.

aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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Shut up with the questions.

The DOJ just blatantly lied to protect our Idiot in Chief yet again from being named a close friend (hopefully no more than that or this Country is about to blow up) of the most notorious Pedophile in history.

They've done so much lying now about this topic the public isn't going to rest until every single file is released and anyone that is guilty is buried under the jail. I hope the Government knows that at this point.

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So which specific files should be released?

The ones that includes innocent names of associates?

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Yes. At this point they have no choice. They've burned the bridge behind them. They're screwed now.

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How did they burn a bridge? By associating with someone 20 years ago?

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No, by hammering time after time after time that once elected, his admin would release the files and "drain the swamp"...using the Epstein thing as a cudgel to get elected. Then, once in office, miraculously they stop caring when they learn Trump's name is all over the files. They're the ones who wouldn't shut up about it - now they can eat sh/t from those who are rightfully pissed off.

Also, glad to see we're on day like 15 in a row of you asking the same question over and over and over again.

aginlakeway said:

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rgvag11 said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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Shut up with the questions.

The DOJ just blatantly lied to protect our Idiot in Chief yet again from being named a close friend (hopefully no more than that or this Country is about to blow up) of the most notorious Pedophile in history.

They've done so much lying now about this topic the public isn't going to rest until every single file is released and anyone that is guilty is buried under the jail. I hope the Government knows that at this point.

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So which specific files should be released?

The ones that includes innocent names of associates?

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Yes. At this point they have no choice. They've burned the bridge behind them. They're screwed now.

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How did they burn a bridge? By associating with someone 20 years ago?

What about innocent people that worked for Epstein in minor roles 20 years ago? Anyone who did any business with him that had nothing to do with his sexual activities?

So you are saying that if I did some work for someone 20 years ago -- like designing his home or brokering a sale or handling stock purchase -- and he later turned out to be a pedophile, my name should be released to the pubic?

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Here's what you're not understanding, the people are now out for blood and nothing is going to stop it. DOJ, Bondi, and Trump fubar'd this beyond belief.

Release everything. The FBI has all the information in the world and they know the difference between someone who once brokered a deal and was a friend and someone who was a VERY close friend. Our President seems to be in the latter category. Does that mean he's guilty of pedophilia? Of course not.

But they've screwed this up so badly that it doesn't matter. The way Trump came out kicking and screaming at his voters saying if you still care about this then don't vote for me tells you everything you needed to know about where this was going to end up. The well has already been poisoned with a lot of his supporters, it's over.

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I understand 100%. I also don't trust the FBI.

I'm still trying to understand why it's OK for innocent names to be released after a criminal investigation is complete.

I had some very close friends 20 years ago that I don't see any longer. One of them went to prison earlier this year. Should my name be released if he went to prison for a sexual crime?

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Did your friend's sex crimes take place when you were friends and paling around with each other?

Jeffrey Epstein was accused of sex trafficking and abusing underage girls in his homes in Manhattan, New York, and Palm Beach, Florida between 2002 and 2005.

Donald Trump's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein reportedly ended in 2004 following a dispute over a Palm Beach mansion.

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My friend wasn't convicted of a sex crime. But I do know people that have been convicted of sex crimes. I see all sorts in the recovery community.

Innocent names should not be released after a criminal investigation is complete. IMO.

Becoming circular. We'll see what happens. I still don't think there's any way serious dirt on Trump has been kept quiet for so long.

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The fact that NO ONE at the federal level has even bothered to interrogate Maxwell ought to prove to you how shallow any sort of "investigation" of this whole sordid affair has been.

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Here's what you're not understanding, the people are now out for blood and nothing is going to stop it.

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Trump has now lost the QAnon Shaman.

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LOL. QAnon crazies are running point on this. LOL. LOL.

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aginlakeway said:

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rgvag11 said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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Shut up with the questions.

The DOJ just blatantly lied to protect our Idiot in Chief yet again from being named a close friend (hopefully no more than that or this Country is about to blow up) of the most notorious Pedophile in history.

They've done so much lying now about this topic the public isn't going to rest until every single file is released and anyone that is guilty is buried under the jail. I hope the Government knows that at this point.

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So which specific files should be released?

The ones that includes innocent names of associates?

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Yes. At this point they have no choice. They've burned the bridge behind them. They're screwed now.

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How did they burn a bridge? By associating with someone 20 years ago?

What about innocent people that worked for Epstein in minor roles 20 years ago? Anyone who did any business with him that had nothing to do with his sexual activities?

So you are saying that if I did some work for someone 20 years ago -- like designing his home or brokering a sale or handling stock purchase -- and he later turned out to be a pedophile, my name should be released to the pubic?

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Here's what you're not understanding, the people are now out for blood and nothing is going to stop it. DOJ, Bondi, and Trump fubar'd this beyond belief.

Release everything. The FBI has all the information in the world and they know the difference between someone who once brokered a deal and was a friend and someone who was a VERY close friend. Our President seems to be in the latter category. Does that mean he's guilty of pedophilia? Of course not.

But they've screwed this up so badly that it doesn't matter. The way Trump came out kicking and screaming at his voters saying if you still care about this then don't vote for me tells you everything you needed to know about where this was going to end up. The well has already been poisoned with a lot of his supporters, it's over.

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I understand 100%. I also don't trust the FBI.

I'm still trying to understand why it's OK for innocent names to be released after a criminal investigation is complete.

I had some very close friends 20 years ago that I don't see any longer. One of them went to prison earlier this year. Should my name be released if he went to prison for a sexual crime?

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Did your friend's sex crimes take place when you were friends and paling around with each other?

Jeffrey Epstein was accused of sex trafficking and abusing underage girls in his homes in Manhattan, New York, and Palm Beach, Florida between 2002 and 2005.

Donald Trump's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein reportedly ended in 2004 following a dispute over a Palm Beach mansion.

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My friend wasn't convicted of a sex crime. But I do know people that have been convicted of sex crimes. I see all sorts in the recovery community.

Innocent names should not be released after a criminal investigation is complete. IMO.

Becoming circular. We'll see what happens. I still don't think there's any way serious dirt on Trump has been kept quiet for so long.

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The fact that NO ONE at the federal level has even bothered to interrogate Maxwell ought to prove to you how shallow any sort of "investigation" of this whole sordid affair has been.

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INSANITY. And we have Trump bootlickers just playing Devils advocate

f1ghtintexasaggie said:

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aginlakeway said:

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rgvag11 said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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Shut up with the questions.

The DOJ just blatantly lied to protect our Idiot in Chief yet again from being named a close friend (hopefully no more than that or this Country is about to blow up) of the most notorious Pedophile in history.

They've done so much lying now about this topic the public isn't going to rest until every single file is released and anyone that is guilty is buried under the jail. I hope the Government knows that at this point.

---

So which specific files should be released?

The ones that includes innocent names of associates?

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Yes. At this point they have no choice. They've burned the bridge behind them. They're screwed now.

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How did they burn a bridge? By associating with someone 20 years ago?

What about innocent people that worked for Epstein in minor roles 20 years ago? Anyone who did any business with him that had nothing to do with his sexual activities?

So you are saying that if I did some work for someone 20 years ago -- like designing his home or brokering a sale or handling stock purchase -- and he later turned out to be a pedophile, my name should be released to the pubic?

---

Here's what you're not understanding, the people are now out for blood and nothing is going to stop it. DOJ, Bondi, and Trump fubar'd this beyond belief.

Release everything. The FBI has all the information in the world and they know the difference between someone who once brokered a deal and was a friend and someone who was a VERY close friend. Our President seems to be in the latter category. Does that mean he's guilty of pedophilia? Of course not.

But they've screwed this up so badly that it doesn't matter. The way Trump came out kicking and screaming at his voters saying if you still care about this then don't vote for me tells you everything you needed to know about where this was going to end up. The well has already been poisoned with a lot of his supporters, it's over.

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I understand 100%. I also don't trust the FBI.

I'm still trying to understand why it's OK for innocent names to be released after a criminal investigation is complete.

I had some very close friends 20 years ago that I don't see any longer. One of them went to prison earlier this year. Should my name be released if he went to prison for a sexual crime?

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Did your friend's sex crimes take place when you were friends and paling around with each other?

Jeffrey Epstein was accused of sex trafficking and abusing underage girls in his homes in Manhattan, New York, and Palm Beach, Florida between 2002 and 2005.

Donald Trump's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein reportedly ended in 2004 following a dispute over a Palm Beach mansion.

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My friend wasn't convicted of a sex crime. But I do know people that have been convicted of sex crimes. I see all sorts in the recovery community.

Innocent names should not be released after a criminal investigation is complete. IMO.

Becoming circular. We'll see what happens. I still don't think there's any way serious dirt on Trump has been kept quiet for so long.

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The fact that NO ONE at the federal level has even bothered to interrogate Maxwell ought to prove to you how shallow any sort of "investigation" of this whole sordid affair has been.

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Agree. That's crazy. But I still don't think innocent names should be released after a criminal investigation is complete.

FWTXAg said:

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f1ghtintexasaggie said:

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aginlakeway said:

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rgvag11 said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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Shut up with the questions.

The DOJ just blatantly lied to protect our Idiot in Chief yet again from being named a close friend (hopefully no more than that or this Country is about to blow up) of the most notorious Pedophile in history.

They've done so much lying now about this topic the public isn't going to rest until every single file is released and anyone that is guilty is buried under the jail. I hope the Government knows that at this point.

---

So which specific files should be released?

The ones that includes innocent names of associates?

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Yes. At this point they have no choice. They've burned the bridge behind them. They're screwed now.

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How did they burn a bridge? By associating with someone 20 years ago?

What about innocent people that worked for Epstein in minor roles 20 years ago? Anyone who did any business with him that had nothing to do with his sexual activities?

So you are saying that if I did some work for someone 20 years ago -- like designing his home or brokering a sale or handling stock purchase -- and he later turned out to be a pedophile, my name should be released to the pubic?

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Here's what you're not understanding, the people are now out for blood and nothing is going to stop it. DOJ, Bondi, and Trump fubar'd this beyond belief.

Release everything. The FBI has all the information in the world and they know the difference between someone who once brokered a deal and was a friend and someone who was a VERY close friend. Our President seems to be in the latter category. Does that mean he's guilty of pedophilia? Of course not.

But they've screwed this up so badly that it doesn't matter. The way Trump came out kicking and screaming at his voters saying if you still care about this then don't vote for me tells you everything you needed to know about where this was going to end up. The well has already been poisoned with a lot of his supporters, it's over.

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I understand 100%. I also don't trust the FBI.

I'm still trying to understand why it's OK for innocent names to be released after a criminal investigation is complete.

I had some very close friends 20 years ago that I don't see any longer. One of them went to prison earlier this year. Should my name be released if he went to prison for a sexual crime?

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Did your friend's sex crimes take place when you were friends and paling around with each other?

Jeffrey Epstein was accused of sex trafficking and abusing underage girls in his homes in Manhattan, New York, and Palm Beach, Florida between 2002 and 2005.

Donald Trump's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein reportedly ended in 2004 following a dispute over a Palm Beach mansion.

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My friend wasn't convicted of a sex crime. But I do know people that have been convicted of sex crimes. I see all sorts in the recovery community.

Innocent names should not be released after a criminal investigation is complete. IMO.

Becoming circular. We'll see what happens. I still don't think there's any way serious dirt on Trump has been kept quiet for so long.

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The fact that NO ONE at the federal level has even bothered to interrogate Maxwell ought to prove to you how shallow any sort of "investigation" of this whole sordid affair has been.

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INSANITY. And we have Trump bootlickers just playing Devils advocate

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Who are the bootlickers?

I actually care very little about Trump with regards to this. He didn't do anything seriously wrong or it would have leaked years ago. But no doubt the only reason this is an issue is because people are hoping to get more dirt on Trump. IMO.

I just don't think innocent names should be released after a criminal investigation is complete. I'm unsure why that opinion is so controversial.

I think the Epstein files were tampered with. It's the only thing that makes any sense. Trump and everyone around him were over the top, gung ho about releasing them, but then when he got into office, he did an immediate and complete 180.

I think the left knew that he would release them and expose all of them, so they fudged and tampered with the documents to either implicate Trump or a family member or someone close. That way, when he assumed office, he wouldn't be able to release them either. And of course, no one would believe his cries of "this is fake, the left fudged and added a bunch of bs", so he's found himself in a tough spot.

Just my thoughts.

Wonder how many names are on this list that also appear in Don Jrs new executive club in Georgetown.

They'll keep throwing **** at the wall and seeing what sticks. They get a few members with every lob. MLK, Obamas, Coke Sugar. Already have this board being like "why isn't Obama a story" cause it's a nothing burger your dear leader has told you to chase. Nothing will come of it. It's a look the other way while I protect myself and my mega donors who preach of Christian values while protecting and enabling pedos.

Trump knew what he was doing and at best ignored it for access. His plane had the name for quite a while. 3 mins of missing tape under the Trump admin. Acosta who gave the sweetheart deal to Jeffery Epstein is in Trumps cabinet first term.

Too much smoke

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If there is no evidence you were involved or knew what was happening then no. I would expect them to redact your name.

If there is evidence you were there when crimes were being committed or would have know about the crimes being committed a la JoePa then yes your name should be published.

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Who has been convicted along with Epstein? And who has settled with one of Epstein's victims?

Think about it. 2 people. Maxwell and Prince Andrew. Are there others that may know? Or others that had suspicions about the crimes? Are their business customers names suitable for release? What about the lawyers hired to defend? What about the prosecuting attorneys?

People don't understand that the government would have huge civil and probably criminal liabilities if they published all the names associated with Epstein.

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I think the Epstein files were tampered with. It's the only thing that makes any sense. Trump and everyone around him were over the top, gung ho about releasing them, but then when he got into office, he did an immediate and complete 180.

I think the left knew that he would release them and expose all of them, so they fudged and tampered with the documents to either implicate Trump or a family member or someone close. That way, when he assumed office, he wouldn't be able to release them either. And of course, no one would believe his cries of "this is fake, the left fudged and added a bunch of bs", so he's found himself in a tough spot.

Just my thoughts.

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You allege a conspiracy but maybe the guy was just FOS on the issue and was riling up a political group to get elected.

Occam's Razor tends to get ignored in this forum.

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INSANITY. And we have Trump bootlickers just playing Devils advocate

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Nobody is bootlicking. All I see are people that thrive on conspiracies engorging themselves in self pleasure.

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aginlakeway said:

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rgvag11 said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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aginlakeway said:

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FWTXAg said:

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Shut up with the questions.

The DOJ just blatantly lied to protect our Idiot in Chief yet again from being named a close friend (hopefully no more than that or this Country is about to blow up) of the most notorious Pedophile in history.

They've done so much lying now about this topic the public isn't going to rest until every single file is released and anyone that is guilty is buried under the jail. I hope the Government knows that at this point.

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So which specific files should be released?

The ones that includes innocent names of associates?

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Yes. At this point they have no choice. They've burned the bridge behind them. They're screwed now.

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How did they burn a bridge? By associating with someone 20 years ago?

What about innocent people that worked for Epstein in minor roles 20 years ago? Anyone who did any business with him that had nothing to do with his sexual activities?

So you are saying that if I did some work for someone 20 years ago -- like designing his home or brokering a sale or handling stock purchase -- and he later turned out to be a pedophile, my name should be released to the pubic?

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Here's what you're not understanding, the people are now out for blood and nothing is going to stop it. DOJ, Bondi, and Trump fubar'd this beyond belief.

Release everything. The FBI has all the information in the world and they know the difference between someone who once brokered a deal and was a friend and someone who was a VERY close friend. Our President seems to be in the latter category. Does that mean he's guilty of pedophilia? Of course not.

But they've screwed this up so badly that it doesn't matter. The way Trump came out kicking and screaming at his voters saying if you still care about this then don't vote for me tells you everything you needed to know about where this was going to end up. The well has already been poisoned with a lot of his supporters, it's over.

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I understand 100%. I also don't trust the FBI.

I'm still trying to understand why it's OK for innocent names to be released after a criminal investigation is complete.

I had some very close friends 20 years ago that I don't see any longer. One of them went to prison earlier this year. Should my name be released if he went to prison for a sexual crime?

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Did your friend's sex crimes take place when you were friends and paling around with each other?

Jeffrey Epstein was accused of sex trafficking and abusing underage girls in his homes in Manhattan, New York, and Palm Beach, Florida between 2002 and 2005.

Donald Trump's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein reportedly ended in 2004 following a dispute over a Palm Beach mansion.

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My friend wasn't convicted of a sex crime. But I do know people that have been convicted of sex crimes. I see all sorts in the recovery community.

Innocent names should not be released after a criminal investigation is complete. IMO.

Becoming circular. We'll see what happens. I still don't think there's any way serious dirt on Trump has been kept quiet for so long.

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The fact that NO ONE at the federal level has even bothered to interrogate Maxwell ought to prove to you how shallow any sort of "investigation" of this whole sordid affair has been.

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On one hand I get this, on the other, she was already convicted federally on 5 counts, wouldn't the federal prosecutors have access to that information for the Epstein case? It would also seem like she'd just 5th amendment her way through an Epstein case without some kind of immunity, and everyone would be up in arms if she got that. Also, I'm not a lawyer so everything I just said might be BS.

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I think the Epstein files were tampered with. It's the only thing that makes any sense. Trump and everyone around him were over the top, gung ho about releasing them, but then when he got into office, he did an immediate and complete 180.

I think the left knew that he would release them and expose all of them, so they fudged and tampered with the documents to either implicate Trump or a family member or someone close. That way, when he assumed office, he wouldn't be able to release them either. And of course, no one would believe his cries of "this is fake, the left fudged and added a bunch of bs", so he's found himself in a tough spot.

Just my thoughts.

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You allege a conspiracy but maybe the guy was just FOS on the issue and was riling up a political group to get elected.

Occam's Razor tends to get ignored in this forum.

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Yes, because if he was truly in the files, the left wouldn't have immediately exposed it to literally every news outlet in existence, right?

They went through the effort to create a ridiculous and elaborate ENTIRELY FAKE Russia hoax conspiracy to stop him, but had ACTUAL child pedo evidence against him but decided to sit on it?

Try again bud.

Regarding files, Bongino was on this morning saying they are still finding boxes. Boxes of information, not catalogued, not digitized, and kept in storage places not usually used for storage.

As the come across information, they still have to review, organize it, in many cases declassify it - which involves both other departments and also with other foreign intelligence agencies.

The more it drags out lends more credence to Epstein has some connections to intelligence vs Trump is a pedo. Some folks should keep in mind that Epstein could have been involved with intelligence agencies not under the United States, which presents a whole host of other issues.

And I believe Maxwell will be interviewed as early as today. What does she say? Who knows. But she likely has more knowledge on both Epstein Island and foreign connections. Believe with her dad's connections he likely used her to bait Epstein as a useful pawn. But that is pure speculation on my part.

The judging of Trump without evidence is a perfect showing that TDS is pervasive and incurable.

You cannot reason with irrational people.

Those thinking Dems Sat on evidence Trump is a pedo is so flippin ludicrous one just has to laugh.

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You cannot reason with irrational people.

Those thinking Dems Sat on evidence Trump is a pedo is so flippin ludicrous one just has to laugh.

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Except the likes of Bill Clinton and who knows what other major democrats are almost for sure in those documents too.

Again, not claiming he's a pedo. Just saying I think him and his golf buddy Clinton knew too much to stay quiet.

I continue to find the Dershowitz inclusion somewhat perplexing. But he was well connected to the left elite and Jewish elite until he committed the ultimate sin… siding with the US Constitution during Trump impeachment 1.0.

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You cannot reason with irrational people.

Those thinking Dems Sat on evidence Trump is a pedo is so flippin ludicrous one just has to laugh.

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I agree that they were definitely not sitting on evidence that solely points to Trump. Mutually assured destruction has to be the answer. If this had come out during election time and Trump had handled it in this matter he would have lost very very badly.

We can just hope we get answers, I'm not sure why so many don't seem to want them? I understand defending your guy, but wouldn't you rather get them all than get none?

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A House panel Wednesday voted in favor of subpoenaing former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Rep. Scott Perry, R-Pa., offered a motion during a House Oversight Committee subcommittee hearing to call on Committee Chairman James Comer, R-Ky., to subpoena people with possible links to Ghislaine Maxwell, the imprisoned former associate of late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

"I have a motion to subpoena the following individuals to expand the full committees investigation into Miss Maxwell and the list reads as follows: William Jefferson Clinton, Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton, James Brian Comey, Loretta Elizabeth Lynch, Eric Hampton Holder, Jr., Merrick Brian Garland, Robert Swan Mueller III, William Pelham Barr, Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the third, and Alberto Gonzales. That's the full list, Mr. Chairman. And that's the motion," Perry said.

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I would not like it one bit if Maxwell gets commuted. No way in hell should she be pardoned. HOWEVER, I could live with it she rolls over with credible evidence against 20 johns. Plea deals like that happen all the time in the justice system. A bitter pill to swallow to mete out justice against those who would otherwise hide in the shadows.

I still wouldnt like it, and she ought to (and would) still live in infamy in the public eye, ostracized and outcast from polite society.

He literally has said he's innocent, because he never removed his underwear. Strange, if unconvincing, defense. News flash, Alan, you can still do things with your pants on.

With this DOJ, if Maxwell gets a deal, it will be a deal to point fingers at Trump enemies and insist Trump and his allies were never there.

Redact the victim names and make everything else public.

Probably, but better to get one side than none, IMO. The likelihood we get all is approaching zero.

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He literally has said he's innocent, because he never removed his underwear. Strange, if unconvincing, defense. News flash, Alan, you can still do things with your pants on.

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That would be more compelling from Romney and his full body underwear.

It would not have made a difference in the election unless there was verified video of him participating in Epstein debauchery.

People drastically underestimate how much people care about this outside of an f16 thread, Blue Sky, Reddit and MSM.

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It would not have made a difference in the election unless there was verified video of him participating in Epstein debauchery.

People drastically underestimate how much people care about this outside of an f16 thread, Blue Sky, Reddit and MSM.

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With this DOJ, if Maxwell gets a deal, it will be a deal to point fingers at Trump enemies and insist Trump and his allies were never there.

Redact the victim names and make everything else public.

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I 100% expect the "news" to be that Maxwell completely exonerates Trump, and she'll enjoy HBO and steak dinners for the rest of her stay, which will end when Trump pardons her.