DOJ: Epstein killed himself, no client list

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to be redundant (which is what I had to do as a father and a coach, keep saying the same thing over and over again).

There is more than likely some cover up going on here, But it is not for Trump himself. This is clear for anyone with a brain absent TDS.

The issue is what is being covered up, If there are real connections between Epstein and the Mossad and CIA, then yea, there is going to be some covering up whether we like it or not.

If this was a honeypot, black mailing scheme, then once again there has to be some extreme care used in releasing things and Trump is right we do not want innocents being tarred and feathered.

But even here those with TDS are bound and determined to tab Trump as a pedo simply because of past relationships with Epstein. So why would it be any different for any other well known figure from either side of the aisle>

The mob wants heads, any head, and this could spin into a French Rev type things very quickly.

Many here are already very close, stupidly so I might say. Passion rules and passion never rules wisely.
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TAMU1990 said:





No idea how the "Trump must be a pedo" statements continue after reading that timeline.
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While the left is foaming at the mouth about Trump (What's new?), some of us know that the Epstein story isn't only about Trump. Even if he isn't guilty of anything here, whatever "files" there are should be released (even more so if he's not implicated).

"Files" or accountability.
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f1ghtintexasaggie said:

While the left is foaming at the mouth about Trump (What's new?), some of us know that the Epstein story isn't only about Trump. Even if he isn't guilty of anything here, whatever "files" there are should be released (even more so if he's not implicated).

"Files" or accountability.


Agree. But innocent people should not be named. That would be unprecedented in any sex case.
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aginlakeway said:

TAMU1990 said:





No idea how the "Trump must be a pedo" statements continue after reading that timeline.

Where does the 2005 come from? Everything I've found is that Epstein was arrested in July of 2006, then banned in October of 2007.
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Taken with a grain of salt of course, but sounds exactly like Roy Cohn's infamous blackmail parties.

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TAMU1990 said:




Jeffrey Epstein was accused of sex trafficking and abusing underage girls in his homes in Manhattan, New York, and Palm Beach, Florida between 2002 and 2005.

Donald Trump's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein reportedly ended in 2004 following a dispute over a Palm Beach mansion.
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annie88 said:

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Rockdoc said:

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Rockdoc said:

Just what are you TDS guys looking for in the Epstein files? I'd like to see them myself but if you're looking for anything other than a few flights between Florida and up to the northeast, you're probably gonna be disappointed. They were friends or acquaintances long ago and swapped plane rides but that's probably it. I can't see what distraction you're looking for.

I'm not sure it's 'TDS' to want to have whatever it is that's making the Republican party tie itself in knots right now brought out in to the open, like Trump said he would do.

You know...."Promises made, promises kept"?

You really should worry about the dem party. Not the R's.

If he's innocent, he's got no reason to hide.

He's not hiding and if you think for one minute, if there was something there that would've implicated him, they wouldn't have released it in the four years of the Biden administration. You're crazy. The only reason why they care now is because they think it will look bad on Trump. That's all they ever care about. They had no interest in releasing those files. They know how bad it'll look on Bill Clinton and Bill Gates and half of Hollywood. They've even claimed that they were "too busy".

No I don't think Trump handled this well and they should've just said there may not be a list but will keep looking into it. But those of you that are just dying for something bad to be about him in there. I believe we're gonna be very disappointed. They literally even tried to kill this man to keep him out of office. they bombarded him with every ****ed up bull**** legal case and he still prevailed.

Trump is doing so well and every other thing he's doing for the most part. This is all they have.

Then quit lobbing distractions out there and clear the air. Put it all to rest. And if Bill Clinton or whoever else gets caught up in the wash, that's how it goes. You shouldn't have been having sex with kids. Yes, the Democrats think that it will look bad on Trump, but Republicans are acting the same damn way. Trump is acting like it will look bad on him too.

So release it. Rip off the band aid. Or, continue to look like a child-molesting coward. Doesn't seem to me like a difficult choice, but I've never molested kids.
Gig 'Em
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Anonymous Source said:

annie88 said:

Anonymous Source said:

Rockdoc said:

Anonymous Source said:

Rockdoc said:

Just what are you TDS guys looking for in the Epstein files? I'd like to see them myself but if you're looking for anything other than a few flights between Florida and up to the northeast, you're probably gonna be disappointed. They were friends or acquaintances long ago and swapped plane rides but that's probably it. I can't see what distraction you're looking for.

I'm not sure it's 'TDS' to want to have whatever it is that's making the Republican party tie itself in knots right now brought out in to the open, like Trump said he would do.

You know...."Promises made, promises kept"?

You really should worry about the dem party. Not the R's.

If he's innocent, he's got no reason to hide.

He's not hiding and if you think for one minute, if there was something there that would've implicated him, they wouldn't have released it in the four years of the Biden administration. You're crazy. The only reason why they care now is because they think it will look bad on Trump. That's all they ever care about. They had no interest in releasing those files. They know how bad it'll look on Bill Clinton and Bill Gates and half of Hollywood. They've even claimed that they were "too busy".

No I don't think Trump handled this well and they should've just said there may not be a list but will keep looking into it. But those of you that are just dying for something bad to be about him in there. I believe we're gonna be very disappointed. They literally even tried to kill this man to keep him out of office. they bombarded him with every ****ed up bull**** legal case and he still prevailed.

Trump is doing so well and every other thing he's doing for the most part. This is all they have.

Then quit lobbing distractions out there and clear the air. Put it all to rest. And if Bill Clinton or whoever else gets caught up in the wash, that's how it goes. You shouldn't have been having sex with kids. Yes, the Democrats think that it will look bad on Trump, but Republicans are acting the same damn way. Trump is acting like it will look bad on him too.

So release it. Rip off the band aid. Or, continue to look like a child-molesting coward. Doesn't seem to me like a difficult choice, but I've never molested kids.


So if you don't want innocent names released, does that make you a child-molesting coward?
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aginlakeway said:

Anonymous Source said:

annie88 said:

Anonymous Source said:

Rockdoc said:

Anonymous Source said:

Rockdoc said:

Just what are you TDS guys looking for in the Epstein files? I'd like to see them myself but if you're looking for anything other than a few flights between Florida and up to the northeast, you're probably gonna be disappointed. They were friends or acquaintances long ago and swapped plane rides but that's probably it. I can't see what distraction you're looking for.

I'm not sure it's 'TDS' to want to have whatever it is that's making the Republican party tie itself in knots right now brought out in to the open, like Trump said he would do.

You know...."Promises made, promises kept"?

You really should worry about the dem party. Not the R's.

If he's innocent, he's got no reason to hide.

He's not hiding and if you think for one minute, if there was something there that would've implicated him, they wouldn't have released it in the four years of the Biden administration. You're crazy. The only reason why they care now is because they think it will look bad on Trump. That's all they ever care about. They had no interest in releasing those files. They know how bad it'll look on Bill Clinton and Bill Gates and half of Hollywood. They've even claimed that they were "too busy".

No I don't think Trump handled this well and they should've just said there may not be a list but will keep looking into it. But those of you that are just dying for something bad to be about him in there. I believe we're gonna be very disappointed. They literally even tried to kill this man to keep him out of office. they bombarded him with every ****ed up bull**** legal case and he still prevailed.

Trump is doing so well and every other thing he's doing for the most part. This is all they have.

Then quit lobbing distractions out there and clear the air. Put it all to rest. And if Bill Clinton or whoever else gets caught up in the wash, that's how it goes. You shouldn't have been having sex with kids. Yes, the Democrats think that it will look bad on Trump, but Republicans are acting the same damn way. Trump is acting like it will look bad on him too.

So release it. Rip off the band aid. Or, continue to look like a child-molesting coward. Doesn't seem to me like a difficult choice, but I've never molested kids.


So if you don't want innocent names released, does that make you a child-molesting coward?

It's been said about as many times as you make that point that the names of the innocent should redacted, but I'll say it again in case you still don't get it; the names of the innocent should be redacted.
Gig 'Em
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Follow up question, sir. Could you please tell us who else went to the island? Maybe write it down in a list?
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annie88 said:

Kansas Kid said:

annie88 said:

There is concrete proof of Clinton and Gates.

They themselves have admitted they went to the island many, many times.



Clinton has admitted to flying on the jet many times but has denied that he ever went to the island. I'm also don't recall seeing where Gates ever said he went to the island either although he clearly spent time with him.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/bill-clinton-denies-visiting-epstein-island-new-memoir-wishes-he-had-never-met-him

PS. I have no idea if he did or didn't go to the island just that it is inaccurate to say he has admitted it many, many times.


I didn't say he admitted it many times I said he went to the island many times. They can get that off of the plane manifests. And they have.


Is there a link to this information?
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aginlakeway said:

Anonymous Source said:

annie88 said:

Anonymous Source said:

Rockdoc said:

Anonymous Source said:

Rockdoc said:

Just what are you TDS guys looking for in the Epstein files? I'd like to see them myself but if you're looking for anything other than a few flights between Florida and up to the northeast, you're probably gonna be disappointed. They were friends or acquaintances long ago and swapped plane rides but that's probably it. I can't see what distraction you're looking for.

I'm not sure it's 'TDS' to want to have whatever it is that's making the Republican party tie itself in knots right now brought out in to the open, like Trump said he would do.

You know...."Promises made, promises kept"?

You really should worry about the dem party. Not the R's.

If he's innocent, he's got no reason to hide.

He's not hiding and if you think for one minute, if there was something there that would've implicated him, they wouldn't have released it in the four years of the Biden administration. You're crazy. The only reason why they care now is because they think it will look bad on Trump. That's all they ever care about. They had no interest in releasing those files. They know how bad it'll look on Bill Clinton and Bill Gates and half of Hollywood. They've even claimed that they were "too busy".

No I don't think Trump handled this well and they should've just said there may not be a list but will keep looking into it. But those of you that are just dying for something bad to be about him in there. I believe we're gonna be very disappointed. They literally even tried to kill this man to keep him out of office. they bombarded him with every ****ed up bull**** legal case and he still prevailed.

Trump is doing so well and every other thing he's doing for the most part. This is all they have.

Then quit lobbing distractions out there and clear the air. Put it all to rest. And if Bill Clinton or whoever else gets caught up in the wash, that's how it goes. You shouldn't have been having sex with kids. Yes, the Democrats think that it will look bad on Trump, but Republicans are acting the same damn way. Trump is acting like it will look bad on him too.

So release it. Rip off the band aid. Or, continue to look like a child-molesting coward. Doesn't seem to me like a difficult choice, but I've never molested kids.


So if you don't want innocent names released, does that make you a child-molesting coward?

Yeah I'm to the point where I really don't care if "innocent" names are released. It seems like everyone knew what Epstein was doing so how innocent can any of these people be. Release the files
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Gig em G said:

Taken with a grain of salt of course, but sounds exactly like Roy Cohn's infamous blackmail parties.



If it's too much for a member of 2Live Crew, you know there's some **** going on.
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Everyone has heard of the Epstein list. Has anyone heard about the Epstein Birthday Book?




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aginlakeway said:

TAMU1990 said:





No idea how the "Trump must be a pedo" statements continue after reading that timeline.
I do not think that Trump is a pedo.

I do think that with the primary focus of the Jeffrey Epstein case being on his pedophilic behaviors and others potentially being wrapped up in that, it has distracted from the financial crimes Epstein committed. He ran a Ponzi scheme, Deutsche Bank paid $75 million to settle suits pertaining to them overlooking his behaviors, JP Morgan paid out $290 million…I'm sure there's more that hasn't been brought to light. I think it's possible Trump could be implicated in some sort of shady business dealings, far more likely than him having sex with kids.
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aginlakeway said:

Anonymous Source said:

annie88 said:

Anonymous Source said:

Rockdoc said:

Anonymous Source said:

Rockdoc said:

Just what are you TDS guys looking for in the Epstein files? I'd like to see them myself but if you're looking for anything other than a few flights between Florida and up to the northeast, you're probably gonna be disappointed. They were friends or acquaintances long ago and swapped plane rides but that's probably it. I can't see what distraction you're looking for.

I'm not sure it's 'TDS' to want to have whatever it is that's making the Republican party tie itself in knots right now brought out in to the open, like Trump said he would do.

You know...."Promises made, promises kept"?

You really should worry about the dem party. Not the R's.

If he's innocent, he's got no reason to hide.

He's not hiding and if you think for one minute, if there was something there that would've implicated him, they wouldn't have released it in the four years of the Biden administration. You're crazy. The only reason why they care now is because they think it will look bad on Trump. That's all they ever care about. They had no interest in releasing those files. They know how bad it'll look on Bill Clinton and Bill Gates and half of Hollywood. They've even claimed that they were "too busy".

No I don't think Trump handled this well and they should've just said there may not be a list but will keep looking into it. But those of you that are just dying for something bad to be about him in there. I believe we're gonna be very disappointed. They literally even tried to kill this man to keep him out of office. they bombarded him with every ****ed up bull**** legal case and he still prevailed.

Trump is doing so well and every other thing he's doing for the most part. This is all they have.

Then quit lobbing distractions out there and clear the air. Put it all to rest. And if Bill Clinton or whoever else gets caught up in the wash, that's how it goes. You shouldn't have been having sex with kids. Yes, the Democrats think that it will look bad on Trump, but Republicans are acting the same damn way. Trump is acting like it will look bad on him too.

So release it. Rip off the band aid. Or, continue to look like a child-molesting coward. Doesn't seem to me like a difficult choice, but I've never molested kids.


So if you don't want innocent names released, does that make you a child-molesting coward?
I've said it numerous times on this thread, but the people who are known to have associated with him have not been ruined over this.

Bill Gates is fine.

Elon Musk is fine.

Peter Thiel is fine.

President Trump is fine. The majority of the scrutiny he is facing is largely because of the lack of transparency from his admin about this.

Bill Clinton is fine…of the bunch he's probably looked at least favorably because he's a pervert and flew to the island many times.

The only people who are likely to be dragged down if information comes to light are people who can be tied to things that look suspicious rather than just knowing the guy.
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OPAG said:

zb008 said:

If Biden's name were in those files instead of Dump's, they would've been released on Dump's first day in office. Dump is just hoping that this will blow over so he won't have to let the whole world know that he's a pedo.

When has Biden's name been connected to Epstein?

Why would Bidens need Epstein when they seem perfectly content to conduct their pedophilia within the family - as evidenced by videos and diaries.

And lawd that poster calling someone a pedo WITHOUT evidence and using a nickname that a 4yo would call lame.

Lefties so desperate!
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Anonymous Source said:

aginlakeway said:


So if you don't want innocent names released, does that make you a child-molesting coward?

It's been said about as many times as you make that point that the names of the innocent should redacted, but I'll say it again in case you still don't get it; the names of the innocent should be redacted.

So you will be fine with Trump's name being redacted. Will that satisfy your tabloid urges?

Cause you don't care about justice. If you did, there would be a 50 page thread on human trafficking currently occurring in the United States.
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f1ghtintexasaggie said:

Follow up question, sir. Could you please tell us who else went to the island? Maybe write it down in a list?

Trump cannot, but Ghislaine could tell you.
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flown-the-coop said:

Anonymous Source said:

aginlakeway said:


So if you don't want innocent names released, does that make you a child-molesting coward?

It's been said about as many times as you make that point that the names of the innocent should redacted, but I'll say it again in case you still don't get it; the names of the innocent should be redacted.

So you will be fine with Trump's name being redacted. Will that satisfy your tabloid urges?

Cause you don't care about justice. If you did, there would be a 50 page thread on human trafficking currently occurring in the United States.

Since there isn't a 50 page thread on human trafficking, I'll assume that you don't care about justice either.
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I see someone made it over to Reddit so we could have an update on the Act Blue talking points this morning, which is a retread of the birthday card book - containing a "note" from Trump that he didn't write. A note for which no copy has been produced and in order for the world to verify then only congress can subpoena from Epstein's estate.

So no news. Got it.

Keep trying.

Go fetch some more "facts".
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Anonymous Source said:

flown-the-coop said:

Anonymous Source said:

aginlakeway said:


So if you don't want innocent names released, does that make you a child-molesting coward?

It's been said about as many times as you make that point that the names of the innocent should redacted, but I'll say it again in case you still don't get it; the names of the innocent should be redacted.

So you will be fine with Trump's name being redacted. Will that satisfy your tabloid urges?

Cause you don't care about justice. If you did, there would be a 50 page thread on human trafficking currently occurring in the United States.

Since there isn't a 50 page thread on human trafficking, I'll assume that you don't care about justice either.

I show my care in a bit different manner than trying to troll for national enquirer stories.

Give it a try.

https://deliverfund.org/
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Deny.

Deflect.

Dismiss.

Why are you carrying water for Bill Clinton and the Democrats?
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Keyno said:

aginlakeway said:

Anonymous Source said:

annie88 said:

Anonymous Source said:

Rockdoc said:

Anonymous Source said:

Rockdoc said:

Just what are you TDS guys looking for in the Epstein files? I'd like to see them myself but if you're looking for anything other than a few flights between Florida and up to the northeast, you're probably gonna be disappointed. They were friends or acquaintances long ago and swapped plane rides but that's probably it. I can't see what distraction you're looking for.

I'm not sure it's 'TDS' to want to have whatever it is that's making the Republican party tie itself in knots right now brought out in to the open, like Trump said he would do.

You know...."Promises made, promises kept"?

You really should worry about the dem party. Not the R's.

If he's innocent, he's got no reason to hide.

He's not hiding and if you think for one minute, if there was something there that would've implicated him, they wouldn't have released it in the four years of the Biden administration. You're crazy. The only reason why they care now is because they think it will look bad on Trump. That's all they ever care about. They had no interest in releasing those files. They know how bad it'll look on Bill Clinton and Bill Gates and half of Hollywood. They've even claimed that they were "too busy".

No I don't think Trump handled this well and they should've just said there may not be a list but will keep looking into it. But those of you that are just dying for something bad to be about him in there. I believe we're gonna be very disappointed. They literally even tried to kill this man to keep him out of office. they bombarded him with every ****ed up bull**** legal case and he still prevailed.

Trump is doing so well and every other thing he's doing for the most part. This is all they have.

Then quit lobbing distractions out there and clear the air. Put it all to rest. And if Bill Clinton or whoever else gets caught up in the wash, that's how it goes. You shouldn't have been having sex with kids. Yes, the Democrats think that it will look bad on Trump, but Republicans are acting the same damn way. Trump is acting like it will look bad on him too.

So release it. Rip off the band aid. Or, continue to look like a child-molesting coward. Doesn't seem to me like a difficult choice, but I've never molested kids.


So if you don't want innocent names released, does that make you a child-molesting coward?

Yeah I'm to the point where I really don't care if "innocent" names are released. It seems like everyone knew what Epstein was doing so how innocent can any of these people be. Release the files


So I have come across a few pedophiles in my time, thru my addiction recovery work. You would support my name being released as someone who met with a convicted pedophile? Or someone who has talked to a pedophile about his life after prison?

Knowing someone did something wrong is not a crime. Knowing someone did something wrong and still talking to them is not a crime. PARTICIPATING in that crime, or covering up that crime ... those are crimes. Those are the names I want to be released. Not the innocent Epstein associates who didn't even come close to committing a crime.
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GMaster0 said:

What makes this situation so insane is that for years people have carried on about how important these files/client list are and how so many people are going down.

It turns out the most powerful person in theworld is somehow mentioned and or involved in this muck and folks now want to forget it? WTF is going on?


I guess the same thing that happened to the folks that haven't cared one bit about Epstein for years that all of a sudden believe it's the most important issue on the planet now that they think it is hurting Trump.

See how that works? Cuts both ways.
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rgvag11 said:

Deny.

Deflect.

Dismiss.

Why are you carrying water for Bill Clinton and the Democrats?

When you provide false, misleading and irrelevant information that has been provided before, then yes I will deny you, I will deflect to the truth, and will dismiss your posts as tabloid reddit fodder.

Seems like you have a grasp of what is going on. Congrats?

And can you point where I said not to release the files? In fact, release them unredacted. Victims names and all. In America, you have the right to face your accuser.

But you don't care about the truth. You only want lurid details on Trump that unfortunately for you and your friends just do not exist.
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EastTX_Aggie said:




Another example of why this isn't going to die, he doesn't know how to message things.

Bringing up Clinton when in that time frame he was friends with that crowd and openly defended Clinton against all the claims from women isn't a good thing to do.
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aginlakeway said:

Keyno said:

Yeah I'm to the point where I really don't care if "innocent" names are released. It seems like everyone knew what Epstein was doing so how innocent can any of these people be. Release the files


So I have come across a few pedophiles in my time, thru my addiction recovery work. You would support my name being released as someone who met with a convicted pedophile? Or someone who has talked to a pedophile about his life after prison?

Knowing someone did something wrong is not a crime. Knowing someone did something wrong and still talking to them is not a crime. PARTICIPATING in that crime, or covering up that crime ... those are crimes. Those are the names I want to be released. Not the innocent Epstein associates who didn't even come close to committing a crime.

Some people have zero concept of what the sorts of accusations can do to people and not just on the perpetrator.

People are bloodthirsty for dirt on Trump and do not care, obviously, what the consequences are. Hell, they are now thinking a birthday card that may or may not exist that may or likely may not have come from Trump, that in almost all certainty Trump had no direct role in creating or causing it to be created.

These are the same people that call Trump a felon because he recorded the payment of a legal settlement as legal expense in his personal checkbook.
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So they only thing you said you think is "false, misleading and irrelevant" about the Epstein Birthday Book is that Trump is in it.

Is that correct?

So you don't care about Bill Clinton and other people's association with a known child trafficer?
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aggiegolfer2012 said:


Another example of why this isn't going to die, he doesn't know how to message things.

Bringing up Clinton when in that time frame he was friends with that crowd and openly defended Clinton against all the claims from women isn't a good thing to do.

Yea, Trump is terrible at messaging. I mean, global brand, mega real estate projects bearing his name, TV show, decades in the public, 3 times elected POTUS... yea, terrible messenger.

Great observation, would read again. 4.5/5 stars for sure.
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And plenty of bankruptcies and failed business ventures.

But to be more specific, he's not good at messaging as president. He has plenty of wins, then he goes and says something stupid and takes attention away from everything else.
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rgvag11 said:


So they only thing you said you think is "false, misleading and irrelevant" about the Epstein Birthday Book is that Trump is in it.

Is that correct?

So you don't care about Bill Clinton and other people's association with a known child trafficer?

Again, you claim I don't care but you have no evidence of that.

Let me type it slowly for you. Try and read it slowly as well.

Release the files. Full tilt unredacted.

And once done, unless there is video or sworn testimony that Trump participated in the rape and trafficking of young women or if he previously knew about it covered it up, then I never want to see another post about Trump and Epstein again. Deal?
 
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