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Which MAGA people have you seen oppose the release of the Epstein files? Certainly not me, in fact I have repeatedly called for the opposite.

In fact, I have seen NO ONE on f16 nor have I heard any of the talking heads say not to release the files.

Dems are absolutely complicit in the sex trafficking of children. See Biden admins open borders. I haven't seen one lib or one cm or one TDSer speak of this.

In fact, its generally the most MAGA who say kill all child sex predators and let god sort em out.

So again, do you have evidence of MAGA folk wanting to block the release of any information?

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So maga wants Trump to release the files and will even join the other people on the right who have been calling for the release for years?

I never said maga is actively blocking, they're just doing the "well, Biden should've done it so why are people wanting Trump to do it." They could be saying, "that effing Biden didn't release them, but now with Trump in, we're gonna make sure he does like he said he would."

And I'm glad you're on the right side of history where people want Trump to release the files now and don't see any reason why he shouldn't.

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I have not altered my position on this whatsoever, so please do not insinuate that I did.

Instead, you should try and figure out why you never managed to see any of my prior posts saying to release the files. I have been quite vocal on that.

You absolutely indicated MAGA and Trump / Trump admin were blocking the release. Neither of which is true. In fact, we have seen more evidence and movement on this case under both Biden terms than we ever did under Obama or Biden.

It is absolutely credible to ask those going on and on about this now as to why they were never this worked about it previously. And the answer that "well Trump brought it up on the campaign so he has to be accountable for all things Epstein now" is a pretty weak argument.

It's September 10.

Despite all bellyaching, assassination attempts and lawfare, and now fake charges dealing with Epstein …. Trump is still President.

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If you really, really cared, you would have held Biden and Mayorkas accountable for their crimes in this area that are quite literally over 1000 times worse.

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if you actually cared you would hold trump accountable for his complicity in the cover-up now that he's in power, but you won't

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What would you like me to do? Hit him up on his DMs? Spank him?

Shoot at him like libs do to people who make them mad?

And what cover-up?

I see you ducked about Biden and Mayorkas. You NEVER will hold a liberal accountable.

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I just don't know why everyone, especially Christians with children, wouldn't want all the evidence to be released.

If the evidence leads to the imprisonment of Dems, I'm more than happy to throw them in there myself.

The same should be said by maga Christians. At least one would think they'd want justice for those in the Epstein files.

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I am most definitely a follower of Christ, I have children. But I also have a brain, and I also know how these type of things work. As I have worked in this arena for many years!

The whole Epstein issue is now years old, and if you really think that the info that is released has not been heavily messed with you are either naive or stupid!

I am not for stirring up a tar and feathering mob that says "I don't really care if you didn't do anything with Epstein & Associates that had anything to do with pedophilia. You are guilty by association. Any person linked to him in anyway is open to having their lives totally destroyed by a mob like you!

While the rich and powerful and real perpetrators have already been expunged long ago!

If I was confident that the releasing of all this info would actually lead to what you think it will lead to I would be all for it. I KNOW IT WILL NOT.

Just like the JFK, or RFK or King or any other high profile issue. Shoot we can't get Wiener or Hunter Biden nailed. What about the outrage over Podesta, or Hillary and Spirit cooking or Marina Abromovich. There is lot of real wicked stuff going on amongst these people, and the Epstein stuff is just not going to produce what you think it will. I would rather save my effort for real stuff that's happening now in the recent future - like child trafficking's that we KNOW is being done by the wicked lite, both for harvesting body parts and various other really wicked stuff? Those that were snatch off the streets or seduced to attend a model shoot that was nothing more then kidnapping. Or stuff like "Taken" talked about that happens even today!


Na the 'this is the Christian thing to do' is total BS coming from you.

Well said.

The UK has just fired its ambassador to the US because of his close ties to Epstein.

The tentacles of this monster apparently have a very long reach.

DISGRACE

Congratulations. You will be today our 217 signature on releasing the full Epstein files that @RepThomasMassie & I introduced! https://t.co/m187i5fqlD

— Ro Khanna (@RoKhanna) September 10, 2025

Should have 217 signatures officially soon.

BREAKING: House of Representatives has 217 out of 218 votes required to force the release of the Epstein Files.

— Polymarket (@Polymarket) September 11, 2025

For those who ask why Massie & I are pursuing this matter with persistence despite political blowback, the answer is that rich & powerful men who covered for Epstein must be held accountable. Mandelson is an example. He’s on the left, so it’s not political. https://t.co/6iW6dSbpyX

— Ro Khanna (@RoKhanna) September 11, 2025

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I just don't know why everyone, especially Christians with children, wouldn't want all the evidence to be released.

If the evidence leads to the imprisonment of Dems, I'm more than happy to throw them in there myself.

The same should be said by maga Christians. At least one would think they'd want justice for those in the Epstein files.

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I am most definitely a follower of Christ, I have children. But I also have a brain, and I also know how these type of things work. As I have worked in this arena for many years!

The whole Epstein issue is now years old, and if you really think that the info that is released has not been heavily messed with you are either naive or stupid!

I am not for stirring up a tar and feathering mob that says "I don't really care if you didn't do anything with Epstein & Associates that had anything to do with pedophilia. You are guilty by association. Any person linked to him in anyway is open to having their lives totally destroyed by a mob like you!

While the rich and powerful and real perpetrators have already been expunged long ago!

If I was confident that the releasing of all this info would actually lead to what you think it will lead to I would be all for it. I KNOW IT WILL NOT.

Just like the JFK, or RFK or King or any other high profile issue. Shoot we can't get Wiener or Hunter Biden nailed. What about the outrage over Podesta, or Hillary and Spirit cooking or Marina Abromovich. There is lot of real wicked stuff going on amongst these people, and the Epstein stuff is just not going to produce what you think it will. I would rather save my effort for real stuff that's happening now in the recent future - like child trafficking's that we KNOW is being done by the wicked lite, both for harvesting body parts and various other really wicked stuff? Those that were snatch off the streets or seduced to attend a model shoot that was nothing more then kidnapping. Or stuff like "Taken" talked about that happens even today!


Na the 'this is the Christian thing to do' is total BS coming from you.

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I'm 100% there with you on there being more effort for child trafficking and the other stuff you mentioned.

As for effort, I just wonder how much effort it would take for Trump to tell his people to just release everything? I'd imagine not much.

Again, everyone was told there would be more, everything, and still nothing and being told that there is more but that they're not going to release it. If there's nothing there, then why not just release it and be done with it?

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The UK has just fired its ambassador to the US because of his close ties to Epstein.

The tentacles of this monster apparently have a very long reach.

DISGRACE

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Of course they do. I'm sure we'll all be totally shocked when we finally learn they extend into Russia. By means of depravity or kompromat or both. My opinion of course, and not really something I've dove deep on. He's just sooo soft on them it's... odd.

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Which MAGA people have you seen oppose the release of the Epstein files? Certainly not me, in fact I have repeatedly called for the opposite.

In fact, I have seen NO ONE on f16 nor have I heard any of the talking heads say not to release the files.

Dems are absolutely complicit in the sex trafficking of children. See Biden admins open borders. I haven't seen one lib or one cm or one TDSer speak of this.

In fact, its generally the most MAGA who say kill all child sex predators and let god sort em out.

So again, do you have evidence of MAGA folk wanting to block the release of any information?

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So maga wants Trump to release the files and will even join the other people on the right who have been calling for the release for years?

I never said maga is actively blocking, they're just doing the "well, Biden should've done it so why are people wanting Trump to do it." They could be saying, "that effing Biden didn't release them, but now with Trump in, we're gonna make sure he does like he said he would."

And I'm glad you're on the right side of history where people want Trump to release the files now and don't see any reason why he shouldn't.

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I have not altered my position on this whatsoever, so please do not insinuate that I did.

Instead, you should try and figure out why you never managed to see any of my prior posts saying to release the files. I have been quite vocal on that.

You absolutely indicated MAGA and Trump / Trump admin were blocking the release. Neither of which is true. In fact, we have seen more evidence and movement on this case under both Biden terms than we ever did under Obama or Biden.

It is absolutely credible to ask those going on and on about this now as to why they were never this worked about it previously. And the answer that "well Trump brought it up on the campaign so he has to be accountable for all things Epstein now" is a pretty weak argument.

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My bad as far as insinuating. I misread or misunderstood, but regardless, that's all on me. Seriously, I apologize.

You are right, more has been released in this administration. This administration said there was going to be more and they haven't followed through with that.

If someone says they're going to do something then does everything they can not to, how is calling that out a weak argument? People are just holding him to his word

And, yes, blame and questioning needs to be aimed at Biden and that administration. To me, everyone and anyone that could have done something and didn't needs to be held to account.

I have been known to jump to quick to an assumption or misread things myself. You are all good by me and I will offer my apology as well if my response was harsh or over the top.

I think we both ultimately want justice for the offenders, for this not to happen again, or for there to be much greater outcry regarding the trafficking and abuse of children.

I get testy over this, because I have been dealing with the true sex/slave since 1988, I worked with street people in Bombay India, including a a lot kids around 12.

A few of them just kind of disappeared and I inquired what happened to them and where they went.

I was told that as it was monsoon season in Bombay that the Saudis come for vacation and they always pay a money for street kids.

I found out that two of them we were close to had been sent to Pakistan where they were paid and trained to become the janissaries that later become the terrorist under Bin Laden.

I reported this to the US consulate, had a meeting with the head of the consulate for over an hour, gave him, pics, names, testimonies from my street people.

What they did was heinous. And they are still doing it. I am more concerned about that type of stuff.

When compared to Epstein where you have a number of teenagers who are being hired and then have a parent that is either unaware or approves it, well, that's different issue all together. Were these girls forcibly kidnapped and tortured? And how could a parent not know that their daughter is gone for a weekend or more?

Some of my street kids disappeared and not all of them went to Pakistan.

The are many runaways. Parents may care, but don't know where they are or if they are alive.

I had not previously realized, but Virginia Guthrie was a runaway. I posted on this previously. It's probably also indicative of why she was so outspoken.

I recall Epsteins initial charge was the result of a girl bringing a friend along and the friends mother threw the flag.

So Epstein may have ultimately been undone because he went outside the network of daughter of wealthy folks or wannabe wealthy folks pumping out their daughter to get a leg up.

Think parent would never do this? Google dowery and some history of kings queens arranged marriages and the like.

He doesn't have to be Mossad to be a well connected pimp exploiting young ladies (and their complicit parents).

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I get testy over this, because I have been dealing with the true sex/slave since 1988, I worked with street people in Bombay India, including a a lot kids around 12.

A few of them just kind of disappeared and I inquired what happened to them and where they went.

I was told that as it was monsoon season in Bombay that the Saudis come for vacation and they always pay a money for street kids.

I found out that two of them we were close to had been sent to Pakistan where they were paid and trained to become the janissaries that later become the terrorist under Bin Laden.

I reported this to the US consulate, had a meeting with the head of the consulate for over an hour, gave him, pics, names, testimonies from my street people.

What they did was heinous. And they are still doing it. I am more concerned about that type of stuff.

When compared to Epstein where you have a number of teenagers who are being hired and then have a parent that is either unaware or approves it, well, that's different issue all together. Were these girls forcibly kidnapped and tortured? And how could a parent not know that their daughter is gone for a weekend or more?

Some of my street kids disappeared and not all of them went to Pakistan.

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F*ck, man, I can only imagine what you've been through and seen. I'm getting pissed just reading the very little you said about what it's like over there. How you held it together is a testament to your will. I may not agree with you on a lot politically, but I sure as F*k respect you and what you did.

You make great points regarding Epstein and the girls. Yes, it is a different issue altogether, yet there still needs to be justice for those who haven't received it and accountability for those who have been kept from it (intentionally or unintentionally).

Back to those kids, though...that just hurts at another level because you know damn well it's still going on. I mean if it's going on here in the States, you sure as sheet know it's going on over there.

Again, I'm just justice-for-everyone, be they here ot elsewhere.

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The are many runaways. Parents may care, but don't know where they are or if they are alive.

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Yeah, and that's why there needs to be MORE funding for police and all law enforcement, so those kids don't fall into cold case files lost forever.

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I had not previously realized, but Virginia Guthrie was a runaway. I posted on this previously. It's probably also indicative of why she was so outspoken.

I recall Epsteins initial charge was the result of a girl bringing a friend along and the friends mother threw the flag.

So Epstein may have ultimately been undone because he went outside the network of daughter of wealthy folks or wannabe wealthy folks pumping out their daughter to get a leg up.

Think parent would never do this? Google dowery and some history of kings queens arranged marriages and the like.

He doesn't have to be Mossad to be a well connected pimp exploiting young ladies (and their complicit parents).

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Just that parents would knowingly pimp their kids is one disgusting thing, but that it was done by wannabe wealthy (i.e. NOT welfare-level poor) is just sickening. The parents should be tarred and feathered.

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The are many runaways. Parents may care, but don't know where they are or if they are alive.

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Yeah, and that's why there needs to be MORE funding for police and all law enforcement, so those kids don't fall into cold case files lost forever.

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Foster care / transitional housing for teens, particularly those who run away, remains non-existent to a large extent.

So even if you find them, you have to have a plan to deal with them.

I support the death penalty for child predators. Why that is even up for debate baffles me.

And if you want to make your stomach turn, look into the S American child killers. Serial killers with hundreds of victims.

Some of whom have been paroled by those countries. Some of whom whose whereabouts remain unknown covering the 2020 to 2024 timeframe.

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No Spin Ag said:

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Whoop2 said:

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The are many runaways. Parents may care, but don't know where they are or if they are alive.

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Yeah, and that's why there needs to be MORE funding for police and all law enforcement, so those kids don't fall into cold case files lost forever.

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Foster care / transitional housing for teens, particularly those who run away, remains non-existent to a large extent.

So even if you find them, you have to have a plan to deal with them.

I support the death penalty for child predators. Why that is even up for debate baffles me.

And if you want to make your stomach turn, look into the S American child killers. Serial killers with hundreds of victims.

Some of whom have been paroled by those countries. Some of whom whose whereabouts remain unknown covering the 2020 to 2024 timeframe.

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Yeah, I'm with you on the death penalty.

My friends on the left don't get why I'm pro-death penalty, and it's predominantly because of things that are about kids and anyone who isn't able to defend themselves.

Thanks for the info about S American child killers and serial killers. I'll do a deep dive over the weekend when my blood boiling won't interfere with work.

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I get testy over this, because I have been dealing with the true sex/slave since 1988, I worked with street people in Bombay India, including a a lot kids around 12.

A few of them just kind of disappeared and I inquired what happened to them and where they went.

I was told that as it was monsoon season in Bombay that the Saudis come for vacation and they always pay a money for street kids.

I found out that two of them we were close to had been sent to Pakistan where they were paid and trained to become the janissaries that later become the terrorist under Bin Laden.

I reported this to the US consulate, had a meeting with the head of the consulate for over an hour, gave him, pics, names, testimonies from my street people.

What they did was heinous. And they are still doing it. I am more concerned about that type of stuff.

When compared to Epstein where you have a number of teenagers who are being hired and then have a parent that is either unaware or approves it, well, that's different issue all together. Were these girls forcibly kidnapped and tortured? And how could a parent not know that their daughter is gone for a weekend or more?

Some of my street kids disappeared and not all of them went to Pakistan.

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F*ck, man, I can only imagine what you've been through and seen. I'm getting pissed just reading the very little you said about what it's like over there. How you held it together is a testament to your will. I may not agree with you on a lot politically, but I sure as F*k respect you and what you did.

You make great points regarding Epstein and the girls. Yes, it is a different issue altogether, yet there still needs to be justice for those who haven't received it and accountability for those who have been kept from it (intentionally or unintentionally).

Back to those kids, though...that just hurts at another level because you know damn well it's still going on. I mean if it's going on here in the States, you sure as sheet know it's going on over there.

Again, I'm just justice-for-everyone, be they here ot elsewhere.

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i am still in the game!, Our latest project and one that I have sought an audience with high level politicians like Ted Cruz, Has been to expose the targeted rape of Christian girls in Pakistan, because they are Christian and poor.


That and seeking to get active and vet Military who have married foreign spouses help in getting visas for them.! This process is taking over 2 years! And they getting visit visas for their spouses denied.


Oddly I am fighting an up hill battel on both fronts.

A fresh batch of 15,000 Epstein emails has been uncovered.

"A newly uncovered trove of private emails from Jeffrey Epstein's personal Yahoo account has provided the most detailed view yet into how the disgraced financier operated, revealing previously unreported communications with Ghislaine Maxwell and others that contradict her public denials and cast fresh scrutiny on those in Epstein's orbit."

BREAKING

Funny.

So house Dems selectively release files they received and even with all that, the NEWSWEEK article only has this…

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Some messages made references to Trump, though they do not provide any evidence of criminal conduct.

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Why would Dems not release all files they have? Why only partial release to select news organizations. Where is the outage from Ro Khanna and Massie?

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No Spin Ag said:

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OPAG said:

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I get testy over this, because I have been dealing with the true sex/slave since 1988, I worked with street people in Bombay India, including a a lot kids around 12.

A few of them just kind of disappeared and I inquired what happened to them and where they went.

I was told that as it was monsoon season in Bombay that the Saudis come for vacation and they always pay a money for street kids.

I found out that two of them we were close to had been sent to Pakistan where they were paid and trained to become the janissaries that later become the terrorist under Bin Laden.

I reported this to the US consulate, had a meeting with the head of the consulate for over an hour, gave him, pics, names, testimonies from my street people.

What they did was heinous. And they are still doing it. I am more concerned about that type of stuff.

When compared to Epstein where you have a number of teenagers who are being hired and then have a parent that is either unaware or approves it, well, that's different issue all together. Were these girls forcibly kidnapped and tortured? And how could a parent not know that their daughter is gone for a weekend or more?

Some of my street kids disappeared and not all of them went to Pakistan.

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F*ck, man, I can only imagine what you've been through and seen. I'm getting pissed just reading the very little you said about what it's like over there. How you held it together is a testament to your will. I may not agree with you on a lot politically, but I sure as F*k respect you and what you did.

You make great points regarding Epstein and the girls. Yes, it is a different issue altogether, yet there still needs to be justice for those who haven't received it and accountability for those who have been kept from it (intentionally or unintentionally).

Back to those kids, though...that just hurts at another level because you know damn well it's still going on. I mean if it's going on here in the States, you sure as sheet know it's going on over there.

Again, I'm just justice-for-everyone, be they here ot elsewhere.

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i am still in the game!, Our latest project and one that I have sought an audience with high level politicians like Ted Cruz, Has been to expose the targeted rape of Christian girls in Pakistan, because they are Christian and poor.


That and seeking to get active and vet Military who have married foreign spouses help in getting visas for them.! This process is taking over 2 years! And they getting visit visas for their spouses denied.


Oddly I am fighting an up hill battel on both fronts.

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Politicians, including Ted Cruz only care about themselves. You'd have a better shot at getting somebody like 60 Minutes to care. Then the politicians will pretend to care. Until the air clears at least.

Nobody noticed last week, but Senate Republicans blocked the vote for release all Epstein files.

Down with the protectors of these evil actors.

Here's your Congress, in a foreign nation, under a foreign nation's flag. Why? pic.twitter.com/sVSc4mr5X1

— Owen Shroyer (@OwenShroyer1776) September 16, 2025

Could this be why they won't release the files?

Yea. The Jews are why.

It's always the Jews.

For all the Epstein files hand wringers that keep droning on and on go to the about the 7:00 mark and listen and pay attention and I'm even screenshotting the transcript with highlights to assist the hearing impaired.



Judge Robin L. Rosenberg - Obama appointee

Judge Richard Berman - Clinton appointee

Judge Paul Engelmayer - Obama appointee

Ask not what your Country can do for you, ask what your Country can do for Israel.

BREAKING: Congressman Thomas Massie just said there is an EPSTEIN LIST and he called FBI Director Kash Patel out on a an apparent lie.

Massie says the FBI has files that have a list of 20 other men who were part of Epstein's Sex Trafficking network, including a "high profile… pic.twitter.com/eKUvK33KOi

— Ed Krassenstein (@EdKrassen) September 17, 2025

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BREAKING: Congressman Thomas Massie just said there is an EPSTEIN LIST and he called FBI Director Kash Patel out on a an apparent lie.

Massie says the FBI has files that have a list of 20 other men who were part of Epstein's Sex Trafficking network, including a "high profile… pic.twitter.com/eKUvK33KOi

— Ed Krassenstein (@EdKrassen) September 17, 2025

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The fight for true transparency and justice continues.

Not worried about Massie he will be back pushing computer chips soon enough.

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For all the Epstein files hand wringers that keep droning on and on go to the about the 7:00 mark and listen and pay attention and I'm even screenshotting the transcript with highlights to assist the hearing impaired.



Judge Robin L. Rosenberg - Obama appointee

Judge Richard Berman - Clinton appointee

Judge Paul Engelmayer - Obama appointee

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Patel is being disingenuous here. They tried to get the grand jury testimony released, and everyone who isn't a moron knew that wasn't going to happen. In fact, the courts have pretty much said any documents within their control they can release.

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I get testy over this, because I have been dealing with the true sex/slave since 1988, I worked with street people in Bombay India, including a a lot kids around 12.

A few of them just kind of disappeared and I inquired what happened to them and where they went.

I was told that as it was monsoon season in Bombay that the Saudis come for vacation and they always pay a money for street kids.

I found out that two of them we were close to had been sent to Pakistan where they were paid and trained to become the janissaries that later become the terrorist under Bin Laden.

I reported this to the US consulate, had a meeting with the head of the consulate for over an hour, gave him, pics, names, testimonies from my street people.

What they did was heinous. And they are still doing it. I am more concerned about that type of stuff.

When compared to Epstein where you have a number of teenagers who are being hired and then have a parent that is either unaware or approves it, well, that's different issue all together. Were these girls forcibly kidnapped and tortured? And how could a parent not know that their daughter is gone for a weekend or more?

Some of my street kids disappeared and not all of them went to Pakistan.

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F*ck, man, I can only imagine what you've been through and seen. I'm getting pissed just reading the very little you said about what it's like over there. How you held it together is a testament to your will. I may not agree with you on a lot politically, but I sure as F*k respect you and what you did.

You make great points regarding Epstein and the girls. Yes, it is a different issue altogether, yet there still needs to be justice for those who haven't received it and accountability for those who have been kept from it (intentionally or unintentionally).

Back to those kids, though...that just hurts at another level because you know damn well it's still going on. I mean if it's going on here in the States, you sure as sheet know it's going on over there.

Again, I'm just justice-for-everyone, be they here ot elsewhere.

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i am still in the game!, Our latest project and one that I have sought an audience with high level politicians like Ted Cruz, Has been to expose the targeted rape of Christian girls in Pakistan, because they are Christian and poor.


That and seeking to get active and vet Military who have married foreign spouses help in getting visas for them.! This process is taking over 2 years! And they getting visit visas for their spouses denied.


Oddly I am fighting an up hill battel on both fronts.

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Politicians, including Ted Cruz only care about themselves. You'd have a better shot at getting somebody like 60 Minutes to care. Then the politicians will pretend to care. Until the air clears at least.

Nobody noticed last week, but Senate Republicans blocked the vote for release all Epstein files.

Down with the protectors of these evil actors.

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The senators have nothing to lose by blocking the vote yet they do it anyway.

It makes one wonder why? Does they have something being held over their heads? Are they on the list?

There's no logical reason for them to do this. None.