Russia, Russia, Russia: DEBUNKED

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Wtih Mar A Lago raid, we were gaslit and led to believe Trump stole and was hiding "nuke secrets" for some treasonous ends. Maybe it was all about doc preservation of Russia Gate files/copies.

I could see Obama Brennan, Comey, Clapper etc thinking exposing them was a risk to "national security." They often claimed an attack on them was an attack on hardworking public servants or sacred institutions. The Fauci defense, "an attack on me is an attack on science". The go to MO for weak guilty cowards.
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Krombopulos Michael said:

Sooooo he's going to pass on Obama and Hillary.

TACO is a real thing

Someone needs to get in Trump's ear and tell him why you don't negotiate with evil.

They ALL need to hang for the treason, not just the underlings.


First off where does he say Hillary in that clip? She wouldn't have immunity but the likely fact is that because of scotus ruling on Trump, Obama would likely have that same defense. He's the head of the snake but if you can get the rest of the body, that's a win that everyone on this board would take right now, save those leftists on here.
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Not sure why everyone is trying to lump Barry in with the crooks.

Susan Rice sent an email to herself confirming Obama demanded everything be done "by the book", and that he wasnt at all involved in initiating or instructiing anything. He just instructed it all be done with the upmost honesty and ethics. For example, he didnt want them to just spy. He wanted them to lie to FISA court to get a warrant first, how they normally get rubber stamps. Dont leak BS to public, do it by the book, leak to media operatives.

You may be asking why Obama was so concerned about something he wasnt involved in, needing to be done "by the book"? Or why Rice felt the need to manufacture a record of an op totally above board? Well, dont ask those questions you silly q ananon right wingers!



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I might have missed this somewhere in the last day of comments here, but why is no one even mentioning this?

https://revolver.news/2025/07/20-cia-and-fbi-agents-confirm-obama-was-behind-russia-hoax-and-reveal-his-hiding-place/

FTA: " According to new reporting from Fox News, twenty CIA and FBI agents have now confirmed that Obama didn't just know about the Russia Hoax, he ran it. And to keep it buried, he locked the evidence away in a CIA vault, where it sat hidden for nearly a decade."

Maybe no one else posted any of this stuff since it was from a "far right wing extremist" site, or some other such nonsense. So, here's something for the left wing extremists who post on here.

FTA: "The signs were always there. Anyone with half a brain knew it. Hillary may have sparked the lie, but Obama and his media cronies made sure it caught fire, blazing like a bonfire with gasoline thrown on it, and turning the federal government and every major news outlet into a propaganda machine. They poisoned the public. They divided the nation. And they did it all on purpose, even though they knew it was all a lie." SMDH
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If it was that incriminating, why didn't they just destroy it?
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FobTies said:

Not sure why everyone is trying to lump Barry in with the crooks.

Susan Rice sent an email to herself confirming Obama demanded everything be done "by the book", and that he wasnt at all involved in initiating or instructiing anything. He just instructed it all be done with the upmost honesty and ethics. For example, he didnt want them to just spy. He wanted them to lie to FISA court to get a warrant first, how they normally get rubber stamps. Dont leak BS to public, do it by the book, leak to media operatives.

You may be asking why Obama was so concerned about something he wasnt involved in, needing to be done "by the book"? Or why Rice felt the need to manufacture a record of an op totally above board? Well, dont ask those questions you silly q ananon right wingers!





"Not sure why everyone is trying to lump Barry in with the crooks."
- Because the others would have NEVER proceeded on their own!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Barry's approval was a REQUIREMENT.
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Juan Lee Pettimore said:

If it was that incriminating, why didn't they just destroy it?

1. To do so would have been a violation of the law. Something that could come back and nail someone's ass.
2. There was SO MANY incriminating docs, no one knew where all of them were...or, whether they had all been destroyed.
3. Perhaps someone hoped they would be found.
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But Susan Rice sent an email to herself that proved unequivocally Barry had complete plausible deniability. No one would ever send an email to themselves to paint a false picture. Plus, she is a "woman of color", any criticism of her motive would be totally racist.
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To your point, the high level, and mid-level underlings in the swamp (such as the lovebirds, Ohrs, Mary McCord, Comey's etc), don't all take actions to entrap the very top of Trump's team, and pursue years of impeachment efforts if they weren't told to do such work by the person at the top of the organization.

Aside, nice to see adult behavior in the media, even if just on the right side of it:
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I think this is not just related to Russiagate, but a good sign of the wheels are truly in motion.

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Juan Lee Pettimore said:

If it was that incriminating, why didn't they just destroy it?

Shoot, that's easy. Hitlary wasn't in charge of the docs that's all!

If they really wanted this to stay hidden she would've been in charge of all it that way she could've Arkancided the CIA and FBI agents to keep them from talking.
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nortex97 said:

They don't want to risk their pulitzer's for lying about it all. The lies and spin around the Ohr-Steele dossier were/are endless.

And the follow up impeachment effort led by Ukrainian lies from within the NSA/executive branch/DC won't be covered in those garbage papers either.


That Chalupa skank needs to go down too
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will25u said:




Holy shyt!

Imagine being so deranged that you argue exposing a US fake Russia Collusion Coup, is colluding with Russia. We should sweep it under the rug, otherwise it helps our adversaries.

Its kinda what the old FBI/CIA brass argued also. "We gotta keep our shady dealings secret, bc it would undermine trust in our institutions if these peasants found out."

Even Patel and Bongino to a lesser degree. "We had some deals with Epstein that furthered our national security interests, unrelated to child sex. You sheep dont need to know about it. He killed himself, move along."

*for Gipper, these arent actual literal quotes. Im just making a simple point about the gaslighting
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Krombopulos Michael said:

Sooooo he's going to pass on Obama and Hillary.

TACO is a real thing

Someone needs to get in Trump's ear and tell him why you don't negotiate with evil.

They ALL need to hang for the treason, not just the underlings.

Hillary has no such immunity, nor did he mention her name. Where are you pulling this nonsense from?
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That Chalupa skank needs to go down too

During the Manafort trial, there was some talk about a "green ledger" or a book of some sort showing Manafort funneling money from Trump to Russians in Ukraine. Or that was the implication, IIRC. But when push came to shove, the prosecutors never attempted to enter any of about that. Because they knew it was completely fabricated, likely by Chalupa.
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We arent that far away from media narrative changing from "baseless conspiracy theory" to "founded investigation by the book". These silly libs are so predictable. Can't wait for MSNBC and CNN to start citing the Susan Rice email to herself as proof of no wrong doing.

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Scattered across at least a half dozen threads are the links to nominally religious NGO's (which are actually evil/vile) like "Catholic Charities" and the similar Jewish, Protestant (Lutheran, etc) ones supporting Biden's invasion of illegal aliens for various financial reasons, as they are run by leftists who oppose limits to human trafficking/slavery if it helps democrats and pads their pockets.

This makes sense, as it has been the plan for many years. Not the best source I realize but I think this is likely true; this was all planned for Hillary's presidency, and had to wait for Biden.
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Juan Lee Pettimore said:

If it was that incriminating, why didn't they just destroy it?


The NEVER thought she'd lose.

They were so sure she would win that they were brazen about it. If Trump didn't win, NONE of this would have ever been known.
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Publish the memo/email, Tulsi.
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Why in the wild world of sports is this not already released without redactions?


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If Im Mike Benz im strapped, with a bullet proof vest at all times. Head on a swivel, maybe even security. Preparing all my own food.

The dude is exposing the Clintons and Feds on all sides, many different instances of corruption, with all the receipts.
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A reminder that there is no reason for any of it to be redacted at this point. Anyone participating in the "investigation" during Obama's term or Trump's first term is guilty of conspiracy. And there is no reason to protect sources and methods since this was all illegal.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

A reminder that there is no reason for any of it to be redacted at this point. Anyone participating in the investigation is guilty of conspiracy. And there is no reason to protect sources and methods since this was all illegal.

Some paste eaters on X seem to think it's done on purpose to protect the pedo Trump...seriously, there are a few speculating that if unredacted it would show Comey and Brennan really thought Trump was a Russian asset so that's why they're leaving it redacted now.
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I'm hoping for Paul Ryan to get wrapped up in this, too. That SOB used Russia Russia Russia to block Trump from the very beginning. Trump could have accomplished so much in those first two years but he was blocked by his own house and senate.
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Prosperdick said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

A reminder that there is no reason for any of it to be redacted at this point. Anyone participating in the investigation is guilty of conspiracy. And there is no reason to protect sources and methods since this was all illegal.

Some paste eaters on X seem to think it's done on purpose to protect the pedo Trump...seriously, there are a few speculating that if unredacted it would show Comey and Brennan really thought Trump was a Russian asset so that's why they're leaving it redacted now.

Does it ever occur to them that it doesn't matter what Comey and Brennan think? There is no evidence of Trump being a Russian asset so if the redacted part says, "I really think Trump is working with the Russians", it would be meaningless.
The best way to keep evil men from wielding great power is to not create great power in the first place.
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American Hardwood said:

Prosperdick said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

A reminder that there is no reason for any of it to be redacted at this point. Anyone participating in the investigation is guilty of conspiracy. And there is no reason to protect sources and methods since this was all illegal.

Some paste eaters on X seem to think it's done on purpose to protect the pedo Trump...seriously, there are a few speculating that if unredacted it would show Comey and Brennan really thought Trump was a Russian asset so that's why they're leaving it redacted now.

Does it ever occur to them that it doesn't matter what Comey and Brennan think? There is no evidence of Trump being a Russian asset so if the redacted part says, "I really think Trump is working with the Russians", it would be meaningless.

Doubtful as you're talking about folks with full blown TDS who really think Trump is "literally" Hitler and is evil personified. These people can't see grey or nuance or anything that requires a modicum of intelligence.

They are truly broken and helpless...just how the Dems like 'em!!!
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aggiehawg said:



Bleed him dry.

Poor guy. He's has to have attorneys on standby since 2017. Given the legal guantlet they put Trump through, I hope they break him, both criminally and financially.
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And again, Flynn had been reporting to the CIA as to the conversations with Kislyak/when in Russia etc. He was hardly suspected of being a 'double agent' in any way. This was just a set up, and part of the ongoing conspiracy both before and after Trump was sworn in;
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"From a national security perspective, President Obama said he wants to be sure that, as we engage with the incoming team, we are mindful to ascertain if there is any reason we cannot share information fully as it relates to Russia." At the time, the Obama administration was actively spying on members of the Trump team as part of its Crossfire Hurricane investigation against Trump.

"Comey said he does have some concerns that incoming NSA Flynn is speaking frequently with Russian Ambassador Kislyak," Rice wrote in a portion of the email that was only recently declassified. "Comey said that could be an issue as it relates to sharing sensitive information."

"President Obama asked if Comey was saying the NSC should not pass sensitive information related to Russia to Flynn," Rice continued. "Comey replied 'potentially.'"

"[Comey] added that he has no indication thus far that Flynn has passed classified information to Kislyak, but he noted that 'the level of communication is unusual.'" The email did not explain how it would be "unusual" for an incoming national security adviser to converse with foreign leaders ahead of a new president's inauguration. Many observers believe the calls between Flynn and Kislyak were little more than pretext to hide the Obama administration's spy campaign against Trump from the newly elected president's team and to justify a continued inquisition against Flynn.

The newly declassified portions of the Jan. 5 Rice email confirm that the targeting of Flynn was coordinated within the inner sanctum of the White House and that both Obama and Biden were deeply involved in the campaign to take down Flynn.

Documents previously released and declassified showed that the FBI never possessed any evidence that Flynn was a secret Russian agent or that he had broken any laws. An FBI electronic communication closing the agency's counterintelligence investigation against him, which was dated Jan. 4, made clear that "no derogatory information" about Flynn had been obtained during the months-long investigation of Flynn.

And, btw, Mary McCord is who really was doing all of this. Not Obama, who is a dunce. She also is married to Sheldon Snook who was the right hand man to John Roberts legal counsel. Weird, right? The conspirators, and their career paths/actions, are not actually…hard to track;
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When the application was finally assembled for submission to the FISA court, the head of the DOJ-NSD wasJohn Carlin. Carlin quit working for the DOJ-NSD in late September 2016 just before the final application was submitted (October 21,2016). John Carlin was replaced by Deputy Asst. Attorney General, Mary McCord.

When the FISA application was finally submitted (approved by Sally Yates and James Comey), it was Mary McCord who did the actual process of filing the application and gaining the Title-1 surveillance warrant.
A few months later, February 2017, with Donald Trump now in office as President, it was Mary McCord who went with Deputy AG Sally Yates to the White House to confront White House legal counsel Don McGahn over the Michael Flynn interview with FBI agents. The surveillance of Flynn's calls was presumably done under the auspices and legal authority of the FISA application Mary McCord previously was in charge of submitting.

At the time the Carter Page application was filed (October 21, 2016), Mary McCord's chief legal counsel inside the office was a DOJ-NSD lawyer named Michael Atkinson. In his role as the legal counsel for the DOJ-NSD, it was Atkinson's job to review and audit all FISA applications submitted from inside the DOJ. Essentially, Atkinson was the DOJ internal compliance officer in charge of making sure all FISA applications were correctly assembled and documented.

When the anonymous CIA whistleblower complaint was filed against President Trump for the issues of the Ukraine call with President Zelensky, the Intelligence Community Inspector General had to change the rules for the complaint to allow an anonymous submission. Prior to this change, all intelligence whistleblowers had to put their name on the complaint. It was this 2019 IGIC who changed the rules. Who was the Intelligence Community Inspector General? Michael Atkinson.

When ICIG Michael Atkinson turned over the newly authorized anonymous whistleblower complaint to the joint House Intelligence and Judiciary Committee (Schiff and Nadler chairs), who did Michael Atkinson give the complaint to? Mary McCord.

Yes, after she left main justice, Mary McCord took the job of working for Chairman Jerry Nadler and Chairman Adam Schiff as the chief legal advisor inside the investigation that led to the construction of articles of impeachment. As a consequence, Mary McCord received the newly permitted anonymous whistleblower complaint from her old office colleague Michael Atkinson.

More at the link. I hope a lot more people start paying attention, including those who are not traitors in the FBI/DoJ.
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Any leftists still following this or the Mueller thread ready to try and explain all this away and how this is not the worst political scandal in our countries history?

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As if we needed any more evidence of Brennan's sedition:

Soon;
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Yep. Delirious.
 
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