Rossticus said:

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Which is why it makes just as much sense for it to be legal and regulated like alcohol. Regulate quality and content of the products and make it illegal to be in an intoxicated state over certain limits and under specified circumstances. Make it illegal to smoke it in public outside of limited, designated areas. There's no reason to treat it differently than alcohol apart from preexisting bias.

Using alcohol to relax is socially acceptable across broader groups of people while using THC to the same effect or for physical or psychological treatment isn't, due simply to recent historical social norms imposed by government and law enforcement.

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I don't have a problem with them regulating what is sold in stores, but it should also be perfectly legal for me to grow it or buy it from the guy down the road. Just like I can grow tomatoes or buy them from the guy down the road.

I just can't imagine wasting any time on this…what a waste, just move on Abbot and Patrick. I don't even use this stuff, so I don't know how it helps people, but I don't care about any of this at all.

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rangerdanger said:

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Texas has some of the craziest liquor laws in the US, and you know damn well Big Alcohol is making a killing off it. These Senators are bought and paid for. The THC consumables being introduced into this current "grey area" are a real threat to the bottom line.

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The handful of families that run liquor in Texas spend many, many, many millions of dollars every year lobbying to keep things the way they are.

It's damn near a mafioso system.

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I'm genuinely intrerested.

Who are these families who control liquor in Texas? John Rydman? He definitely helps keep the Class B system in place which sucks, but that's hardly running liquor in Texas. Who else is in this handful of shadowy families? You don't really think a bunch of national distributors and multi-national manufacturers give two ****s about Cletus and Co. in Pigsknuckle Texas, do you?

And THC being a "Threat to the botom line"? Hardly. There's too much money and all of the big and small (for that matter) suppliers are already involved and producing.

Just waiting for some sanity in Austin.

I guess that I am going to have to make a bulk purchase, and then start making runs to Oklahoma next year. They help me sleep, and just take the edge of the day off.

Morbo the Annihilator said:

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The Alcohol Industry is just waiting for legalization - we're ready to go and have been for some time now.

Margins are ridiculous where we've gone to market and would LOVE to start selling broadly in Texas. Consumers will drink what we tell them to drink like always, and I'd rather drop pallets of a 10mg or 50mg THC beverage than low-margin garbage like Cutwater or High Noon.

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If consumers drink what you tell them to drink, why are you telling them to drink low margin garbage?

Dildos in the Senate advanced the updated bill by Perry. The House has a couple of different bills floating out there to address this in various ways

SB 5 passed the Senate and makes any product that contains any amount of THC illegal, only CBD and CBG would be legal. $10K annual license for manufacturers, $20K annual license for each retail location and a $500 application fee for each product sold.

SB 5

HB 5 is the house version, which is basically the same bill.

HB 5

There is an HB 195 that is a MJ legalization bill, but that has about a Zero.Zero percent chance of passing even if Abbott wasn't strongly against MJ legalization.

The two above bills would basically kill the Hemp industry in Texas. Who is going to pay $20K annually for a license to sell CBD and CBG products?

Why did Abbott even bother vetoing, if we're getting the same recycled ***** This is ridiculous and a boon to the criminal organizations that thrive from MJ prohibition in Texas.

aggieforester05 said:

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SB 5 passed the Senate and makes any product that contains any amount of THC illegal, only CBD and CBG would be legal. $10K annual license for manufacturers, $20K annual license for each retail location and a $500 application fee for each product sold.

SB 5

HB 5 is the house version, which is basically the same bill.

HB 5

There is an HB 195 that is a MJ legalization bill, but that has about a Zero.Zero percent chance of passing even if Abbott wasn't strongly against MJ legalization.

The two above bills would basically kill the Hemp industry in Texas. Who is going to pay $20K annually for a license to sell CBD and CBG products?

Why did Abbott even bother vetoing, if we're getting the same recycled ***** This is ridiculous and a boon to the criminal organizations that thrive from MJ prohibition in Texas.

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Love me some government control. So glad our representatives actually listen to the voices of their constituents.

Can't have a war on drugs for politicians and LEOs to hype and profit off of unless you make sure that access to THC products in Texas remains illegal. Can't funnel overinflated profits from TCUP revenue to your cronies unless you ensure there are no viable alternatives. They're all transparently dirty and crooked and it doesn't matter because we'll all keep voting for them as long as they're the only option we're allowed.

aggieforester05 said:

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SB 5 passed the Senate and makes any product that contains any amount of THC illegal, only CBD and CBG would be legal. $10K annual license for manufacturers, $20K annual license for each retail location and a $500 application fee for each product sold.

SB 5

HB 5 is the house version, which is basically the same bill.

HB 5

There is an HB 195 that is a MJ legalization bill, but that has about a Zero.Zero percent chance of passing even if Abbott wasn't strongly against MJ legalization.

The two above bills would basically kill the Hemp industry in Texas. Who is going to pay $20K annually for a license to sell CBD and CBG products?

Why did Abbott even bother vetoing, if we're getting the same recycled ***** This is ridiculous and a boon to the criminal organizations that thrive from MJ prohibition in Texas.

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The world's most violent and dangerous cartels right now:



I will never understand this stupid sh**. Palms are being greased by big pharma and/or booze. Not a doubt in my mind.

I could at least respect it if they were doing this out of principle. Or if they actually cared that most of the marijuana being sold OTC in this country is covered in pesticides, mold, GMO, etc. which is actively harming people more than the THC itself.

It is all a donor play for big pharma and the alcohol industry. I could not care less whether THC itself is legal or not, but this whole issue just shows how corrupt the state government is.

Welp... looking like i'm going to have to come up with where I will be sourcing my stuff, once this ban goes into effect. Louisiana's market is highly regulated, so I think the max is 3-5mg per gummy. I may have to plan monthly trips to visit family in Dallas, and then take an afternoon to drive to oklahoma to purchase.

Y'all realize the House still has yet to take action on any of these bills, and may not since the Dems fled the state. I still recommend writing/calling your elected officials to convey your opposition to these bills

Thunder18 said:

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Y'all realize the House still has yet to take action on any of these bills, and may not since the Dems fled the state. I still recommend writing/calling your elected officials to convey your opposition to these bills

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Even if the clock runs out, they may call another special session. Hopefully some house members got the message last time, but the Senate's arrogance makes me think the fix is already in. Only corruption can account for such a vast policy departure from the desires of constituents.

aggieforester05 said:

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Thunder18 said:

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Y'all realize the House still has yet to take action on any of these bills, and may not since the Dems fled the state. I still recommend writing/calling your elected officials to convey your opposition to these bills

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Even if the clock runs out, they may call another special session. Hopefully some house members got the message last time, but the Senate's arrogance makes me think the fix is already in. Only corruption can account for such a vast policy departure from the desires of constituents.

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Keep calling and emailing