Hemp/THC in Texas: Special Session Yielding Same Results

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Rossticus
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Forgive the source, but it's the most comprehensive summary update I've seen.

https://www.texastribune.org/2025/07/22/texas-thc-senate-ban-abbott-hemp/

To put it simply, Dani Goeb and the senate aren't budging. Essentially views veterans supporting THC legality as useful idiots. LEOs don't want to have to deal with differentiating between legal and illegal products, so they continue to push for full prohibition as well.

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" The Texas Senate is doubling down with its attempt to ban hemp-derived THC, setting up another showdown with the House, where lawmakers are more amenable to regulating the substance than eliminating it from recreational use.

Senate Bill 5 by Sen. Charles Perry, R-Lubbock, would create a blanket ban on products containing any "detectable amount of any cannabinoid" other than cannabidiol and cannabigerol, better known as CBD and CBG, non-intoxicating components of cannabis. This bill would eliminate the majority of hemp products, including those that are legal under the federal definition.

The bill would make the manufacturing, delivering or possessing with the intent to provide consumable hemp products a third-degree felony offense, as well as create misdemeanor offenses for providing consumable hemp by courier, delivery, or mail service. Possession of hemp products will be considered a misdemeanor offense. However, a person caught illegally possessing the products for the first time will not face charges under the bill. The bill passed the Senate State Affairs Committee unanimously on Tuesday and advanced to the full chamber."
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It will stay cheaper if they ban it
Rossticus
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Colonel Kurtz said:

It will stay cheaper if they ban it


Quite true. It's hilarious when they cite needing it to be illegal/prohibited in order to effectively regulate it when they've historically done such a piss poor job of limiting black market availability. It's a joke and everyone, including law enforcement, knows it. I'm astonished that they can say some of this stuff wit a straight face. But whatever.

I do feel bad for the folks who gain benefits from currently legal products, who don't qualify for CUP and will self-impose restrictions on themselves once the products are again illegal.
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Using law enforcements opinion when it comes to deciding what's legal and illegal is an absolutely terrible idea.

Might as well ask kids if they want cookies for dinner.
ts5641
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Using law enforcements opinion when it comes to deciding what's legal and illegal is an absolutely terrible idea.

Might as well ask kids if they want cookies for dinner.

That's not what it's saying though. It's not whether or not they say it's legal or not it's trying to differentiate between what is legal and what isn't. It's a major pain in the ass for the police. To file a misdemeanor marijuana case they have to send it to the lab, which takes months then obtain a warrant later (sometimes up to 6 months or more).
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ts5641 said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Using law enforcements opinion when it comes to deciding what's legal and illegal is an absolutely terrible idea.

Might as well ask kids if they want cookies for dinner.

That's not what it's saying though. It's not whether or not they say it's legal or not it's trying to differentiate between what is legal and what isn't. It's a major pain in the ass for the police. To file a misdemeanor marijuana case they have to send it to the lab, which takes months then obtain a warrant later (sometimes up to 6 months or more).


So the police want to make something illegal so it makes their job easier? That's an even dumber idea.

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CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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Which is why it makes just as much sense for it to be legal and regulated like alcohol. Regulate quality and content of the products and make it illegal to be in an intoxicated state over certain limits and under specified circumstances. Make it illegal to smoke it in public outside of limited, designated areas. There's no reason to treat it differently than alcohol apart from preexisting bias.

Using alcohol to relax is socially acceptable across broader groups of people while using THC to the same effect or for physical or psychological treatment isn't, due simply to recent historical social norms imposed by government and law enforcement.
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Repubes have to remind us they're tyrannical and corrupt, too. Jackwagons
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
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Quote:

Essentially views veterans supporting THC legality as useful idiots.


This part really pisses me off. Pure arrogance. Political futures and control get decided by stupid 'dig your heels in' stances, especially when it's been show that your position is clearly not supported by the majority of Texas voters.

The article mentions this is a 'life and death' issue. Where are the bodies being stacked? Nobody has died from THC overdose. It's just more hyperbolic 'But think of the CHILDREN!!' rhetoric. We don't ban alcohol just because a child may be hurt by it. We set up an apparatus that doesn't allow sales to anyone under 21. The same could be done here.
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The Senate won't have the leverage that they did during the regular session.

Just remembered that Nevada, Oregon and Massachusetts are a plane ride away
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Ugh, he's talking ridiculously low limits. It's clear he doesn't know much about what he's talking about, but if the 3mg he's referencing is THC the same as what we have now, then it's going to take 2-4 seltzers to equal a single seltzer currently sold. There are some 3mg versions in my liquor store, but they're pretty weak, good for social and that's about it. They're going to need to come down in price A LOT! Hopefully they can still sell the 5 - 10 mg seltzers but list it as multiple servings. Yay Freedom!
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They'll sell them through CUP at a 10x markup over existing market.
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Looks more and more like this entire legislative session in Texas has been a waste of time and taxpayer money
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Wow. My take away from that is that the governor of Texas doesn't understand percentages, ratios, or the broad concept a unit of weight.
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TexasAggiesWin said:

Looks more and more like this entire legislative session in Texas has been a waste of time and taxpayer money

That sums up just about every single legislative session in Texas.

We are the trailer park trash of state government operations, bar none.
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Texas has some of the craziest liquor laws in the US, and you know damn well Big Alcohol is making a killing off it. These Senators are bought and paid for. The THC consumables being introduced into this current "grey area" are a real threat to the bottom line.
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Texas lawmakers are a joke. Just a bunch of Nanny State clowns.

https://www.freedominthe50states.org/personal/texas
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Rossticus said:

Which is why it makes just as much sense for it to be legal and regulated like alcohol. Regulate quality and content of the products and make it illegal to be in an intoxicated state over certain limits and under specified circumstances. There's no reason to treat it differently than alcohol apart from preexisting bias.

Using alcohol to relax is socially acceptable across broader groups of people while using THC to the same effect or for physical or psychological treatment isn't, due simply to recent historical social norms imposed by government and law enforcement.

None of this has to do with what makes sense or what is best for Texas voters.

It's dark money from alcohol and pharma making our elected representatives do what is best for big businesses. When you're a one party state, for the most part, and that party knows they're not in danger of losing power, then you can do what benefits you the most and your constituents be damned.
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Francis Macomber said:

Rossticus said:

Which is why it makes just as much sense for it to be legal and regulated like alcohol. Regulate quality and content of the products and make it illegal to be in an intoxicated state over certain limits and under specified circumstances. There's no reason to treat it differently than alcohol apart from preexisting bias.

Using alcohol to relax is socially acceptable across broader groups of people while using THC to the same effect or for physical or psychological treatment isn't, due simply to recent historical social norms imposed by government and law enforcement.

None of this has to do with what makes sense or what is best for Texas voters.

It's dark money from alcohol and pharma making our elected representatives do what is best for big businesses. When you're a one party state, for the most part, and that party knows they're not in danger of losing power, then you can do what benefits you the most and your constituents be damned.

And until people get off their asses and VOTE, nothing changes
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Bad Abbott. Should've just left this off the special session agenda. They are creating "solutions" to a problem that absolutely doesn't exist
Rossticus
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If you want people to feel like they need you then you have to invent problems that you can tell them that they need you to fix. All while slow rolling progress on fixing actual problems at a painfully slow incremental level (how 'bout them property taxes that they just can't seem to find time for?).
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My guess is the senate led by Patrick refuses to back down from a total ban and nothing gets done and Abbott says they'll address it in the next normal session leaving the status quo. I don't see much getting through the house without Patrick unable to hold them hostage this time.
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A responsible reporter would ask them to come up with specific examples of " all of these children who are dying from Delta 8 and 9."
Rossticus
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Now that Ol' Greg is walking back his support for THC products and synching up with Dani, I have to think that either a bunch of fresh $$$ found its way into his campaign fund or someone found some dirt. There was zero reason to veto and add this to the special session agenda when he could have locked up the ban during the regular session. This is too much of a course correction to be a coincidental change of heart.
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rangerdanger said:

Texas has some of the craziest liquor laws in the US, and you know damn well Big Alcohol is making a killing off it. These Senators are bought and paid for. The THC consumables being introduced into this current "grey area" are a real threat to the bottom line.


Bingo

There's absolutely no reason that adults can't make this decision.
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GD!!!
Charpie
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This could make things interesting

AggieVictor10
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Weed.
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Charpie said:

This could make things interesting



It's about time they quit being dumbasses and started looking at the market potential. There's zero reason these big alcohol companies couldn't cash in on THC beverages. They might have to expand their manufacturing and logistics a little, as well as securing THC suppliers, but the price per can for the current drinks is outrageous compared to beer. They could undercut the current market and still make a killing.

Would be nice if they could push the alcohol lobby towards freedom instead of dumbassery.
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aggieforester05 said:

Charpie said:

This could make things interesting



It's about time they quit being dumbasses and started looking at the market potential. There's zero reason these big alcohol companies couldn't cash in on THC beverages. They might have to expand their manufacturing and logistics a little, as well as securing THC suppliers, but the price per can for the current drinks is outrageous compared to beer. They could undercut the current market and still make a killing.

Would be nice if they could push the alcohol lobby towards freedom instead of dumbassery.

You might want to Google Constellation Brands and their investment in Canopy Growth and InBev's investment in Tilray.

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Lobbying and funneled investments to TCUP. All politicians are crooked.
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The Alcohol Industry is just waiting for legalization - we're ready to go and have been for some time now.

Margins are ridiculous where we've gone to market and would LOVE to start selling broadly in Texas. Consumers will drink what we tell them to drink like always, and I'd rather drop pallets of a 10mg or 50mg THC beverage than low-margin garbage like Cutwater or High Noon.



Teslag
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So under Greg's plan will delta 9 still be legal? Just gummies and beverages to 3mg?
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rangerdanger said:

Texas has some of the craziest liquor laws in the US, and you know damn well Big Alcohol is making a killing off it. These Senators are bought and paid for. The THC consumables being introduced into this current "grey area" are a real threat to the bottom line.

The handful of families that run liquor in Texas spend many, many, many millions of dollars every year lobbying to keep things the way they are.

It's damn near a mafioso system.
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