Brutal attack in Cincinnati

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TRX said:

Why are you capitalizing the word black?

Did you miss the summer of Floyd?

https://cmosshoptalk.com/2020/06/22/black-and-white-a-matter-of-capitalization/
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Ellis Wyatt said:

She needs to be pressed for what the rest of the story is. Surely it is truly exonerating.

The rest of the story

"Perps are black, I'm a white liberal woman"
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Texas velvet maestro said:

The group is assigned a victimhood status. There is constant discussion about reparations. The implication damn near justifies thievery. They are considered so low that they are not expected to control themselves in regards to any trigger they perceive as racist.

On top of that they have been alternately bribed and imprisoned and men and women have been divided. The demographic is a big political game piece. Completely.

I don't agree w Scott Adams 100%, except that the problem is unsolvable on a large scale. It's just too rooted.
On an individual level, small scale, whites and blacks can figure out how to prosper and stay safe. rise above it and appreciate what each other have to offer.


There is also an echo chamber within certain parts of black communities where fear of police is irrationally rooted in the notion and reified in church/social circles that police are looking for excuses to shoot black men. While true that proportionally more black men as a percentage of overall population are shot and killed by police, that is a very small number. And the driver of such confrontations seems to be rooted in noncompliance, trying to take the officers' guns or outright physical attack. I would suspect a fair amount of that behavior is because of mental disorders.
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Captain Pablo said:

The police chief kept saying the social media posts leave out context. Leave out half of the equation. Distort what really happened

WTF was distorted?

Maybe someone should remind her about George Floyd...
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Captain Pablo said:

The police chief kept saying the social media posts leave out context. Leave out half of the equation. Distort what really happened

WTF was distorted?

Exactly. I could never be a reporter in today's environment. As a reporter, I would have responded outloud explicitly stating your response, vociferously pronouncing each word with emphasis.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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That is no police chief!
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Wild to think about how the Zimmerman/Travon Martin deal was over 13 years ago and what all has happened since then. No way that guy gets off if the incident happened today
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LMCane said:

some of it is also education and wealth level

you aren't going to be attacked in West Palm Beach by a group of black residents.


PALM Beach, the island on east side of the Intercostal, no. WEST Palm is not as affluent and it's more likely in more areas that you would expect.
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RELEASED on $400 bond. Wow.
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JB93 said:

Avoiding blacks isn't an act of racism. It's more about minimizing risk and a person (like me) can minimize contact without it ever being ugly behavior. You and others want to amp up avoidance to "that's racist"... No, it isn't.

When 50% of a race isn't equipped socially or emotionally to behave like the rest of society (mainly because they broke the designed family unit), then there are too many risks to association. I'm not going to sort through the broken and violent ones to befriend the Ben Carson's that remain.

When there is a large voice of blacks condemning the behavior of their brothers and sisters, then I'll listen. Why are blacks with a voice (and a pulpit) not working to turn things around? There may be a few examples, but too few and it doesn't seem to be having any impact yet.

The post I responded to called Aggies a bunch of racists. I disagree and contend there are far more in the rest of the SEC schools than at A&M.

Try reading compression again.
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Its pretty spot on if you ask me....
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The police chief is a dumba..!
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agracer said:

JB93 said:

Avoiding blacks isn't an act of racism. It's more about minimizing risk and a person (like me) can minimize contact without it ever being ugly behavior. You and others want to amp up avoidance to "that's racist"... No, it isn't.

When 50% of a race isn't equipped socially or emotionally to behave like the rest of society (mainly because they broke the designed family unit), then there are too many risks to association. I'm not going to sort through the broken and violent ones to befriend the Ben Carson's that remain.

When there is a large voice of blacks condemning the behavior of their brothers and sisters, then I'll listen. Why are blacks with a voice (and a pulpit) not working to turn things around? There may be a few examples, but too few and it doesn't seem to be having any impact yet.

The post I responded to called Aggies a bunch of racists. I disagree and contend there are far more in't the rest of the SEC schools than at A&M.

Try reading compression again.

Is old white southerners believing that they don't want to be around blacks any different than blacks saying they want their own things, own spaces, own graduations or demand jobs for their people? Honest question, what's the difference?

edit: claim white people having braids or dreadlocks is cultural appropriation but run around with straight blonde hair. One race gets a pass, another gets their face dragged through the mud. When does it stop? When is it ok for black people to stop killing innocent white people. White people don't kill black people, hell saying the wrong thing might make a white person lose all they have. Too many examples to point to.
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Sh****SLC said:

agracer said:

JB93 said:

Avoiding blacks isn't an act of racism. It's more about minimizing risk and a person (like me) can minimize contact without it ever being ugly behavior. You and others want to amp up avoidance to "that's racist"... No, it isn't.

When 50% of a race isn't equipped socially or emotionally to behave like the rest of society (mainly because they broke the designed family unit), then there are too many risks to association. I'm not going to sort through the broken and violent ones to befriend the Ben Carson's that remain.

When there is a large voice of blacks condemning the behavior of their brothers and sisters, then I'll listen. Why are blacks with a voice (and a pulpit) not working to turn things around? There may be a few examples, but too few and it doesn't seem to be having any impact yet.

The post I responded to called Aggies a bunch of racists. I disagree and contend there are far more in the rest of the SEC schools than at A&M.

Try reading compression again.

Is old white southerners believing that they don't want to be around blacks any different than blacks saying they want their own things, own spaces, own graduations or demand jobs for their people? Honest question, what's the difference?


The reasons for one make sense, the reasons for the other do not.
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I'll never understand why the white dude slapped the black guy in red and started that whole brawl. You just don't put your hands on people unless you're ready for a fight, especially in that setting. No common sense.
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nomadic_ag said:

I'll never understand why the white dude slapped the black guy in red and started that whole brawl. You just don't put your hands on people unless you're ready for a fight, especially in that setting. No common sense.

So a disagreement between two men means every black person in the general area run over and hit any white person they see?
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captkirk said:



Consequences, REAL consequences. Not only for the criminals but for the lawyers and judges who side with them.


All this stems from never being disciplined, no rules and allowing them to run wild. I don't think it can be fixed at this point. Americans don't have the balls or stomach to do what needs to be done.
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Elmer Dobkins said:



RELEASED on $400 bond. Wow.


As expected. Wish I could say that I'm shocked... but we knew this was coming.

If you're white and you decide to tour the inners of any major city, what transpires after that is on you.

As we've seen, there are no consequences
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Jason Whitlock expresses strong criticism of the Cincinnati police chief, accusing her of being a DEI hire and blaming social media and the media for misrepresenting an incident at the Cincinnati Jazz Festival involving what he calls the "black KKK".

Whitlock contends that a victimhood mentality has programmed young people to blame white people for their problems, drawing parallels to the historical white KKK. He claims that liberal groups are gaslighting the "black KKK" and radicalizing black people.

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ShaggySLC said:

nomadic_ag said:

I'll never understand why the white dude slapped the black guy in red and started that whole brawl. You just don't put your hands on people unless you're ready for a fight, especially in that setting. No common sense.

So a disagreement between two men means every black person in the general area run over and hit any white person they see?


No that does not mean that at all. Prosecute the ones that attacked other white people. IF the white guy hit first then he should expect the consequences. Did he deserve that amount of an ass kicking.? Probably not, but IF he hit first then he deserved to get a hit back from the person he hit. Learn to just keep walking.

I would imagine alcohol was involved also. That makes situations worse.
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The Fall Guy said:

ShaggySLC said:

nomadic_ag said:

I'll never understand why the white dude slapped the black guy in red and started that whole brawl. You just don't put your hands on people unless you're ready for a fight, especially in that setting. No common sense.

So a disagreement between two men means every black person in the general area run over and hit any white person they see?


No that does not mean that at all. Prosecute the ones that attacked other white people. IF the white guy hit first then he should expect the consequences. Did he deserve that amount of an ass kicking.? Probably not, but IF he hit first then he deserved to get a hit back from the person he hit. Learn to just keep walking.

I would imagine alcohol was involved also. That makes situations worse.

Getting your butt beat by the person you provoked is one thing. Having a third uninvolved person cold cock you and then having a bunch of others who were not involved swarm and attack you and your wife is another. Not fair but that is how it is. The rules have changed.

I remember my dad warning me years ago not to flip people off when they cut you off in traffic. His advice: "Don't do it. It's not like when I was young. People will not tolerate disrespect or take a whipping one-on-one like they used to. You're liable to get shot or get ganged-up on. Let it go and move on."
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Its Texas Aggies, dammit said:

The Fall Guy said:

ShaggySLC said:

nomadic_ag said:

I'll never understand why the white dude slapped the black guy in red and started that whole brawl. You just don't put your hands on people unless you're ready for a fight, especially in that setting. No common sense.

So a disagreement between two men means every black person in the general area run over and hit any white person they see?


No that does not mean that at all. Prosecute the ones that attacked other white people. IF the white guy hit first then he should expect the consequences. Did he deserve that amount of an ass kicking.? Probably not, but IF he hit first then he deserved to get a hit back from the person he hit. Learn to just keep walking.

I would imagine alcohol was involved also. That makes situations worse.

Getting your butt beat by the person you provoked is one thing. Having a third uninvolved person cold cock you and then having a bunch of others who were not involved swarm and attack you and your wife is another. Not fair but that is how it is. The rules have changed.

I remember my dad warning me years ago not to flip people off when they cut you off in traffic. His advice: "Don't do it. It's not like when I was young. People will not tolerate disrespect or take a whipping one-on-one like they used to. You're liable to get shot or get ganged-up on. Let it go and move on."




I flipped someone off driving as a teenager in 92 and the guy followed me and stuck an icepick into my tires and tried to run at me with it. I learned my lesson fast to just keep going and not to react.
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JB93 said:

Avoiding blacks isn't an act of racism. It's more about minimizing risk and a person (like me) can minimize contact without it ever being ugly behavior. You and others want to amp up avoidance to "that's racist"... No, it isn't.

When 50% of a race isn't equipped socially or emotionally to behave like the rest of society (mainly because they broke the designed family unit), then there are too many risks to association. I'm not going to sort through the broken and violent ones to befriend the Ben Carson's that remain.

When there is a large voice of blacks condemning the behavior of their brothers and sisters, then I'll listen. Why are blacks with a voice (and a pulpit) not working to turn things around? There may be a few examples, but too few and it doesn't seem to be having any impact yet.

50%? You're low balling the number
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Quote:

The safety of our guests, team members, and neighborhoods is nonnegotiable. It is a foundational expectation we all share.

That sounds like ultra-maga-extremist and possibly nazi fascist to me. are democrat-run cities going to stand for restaurant owners using language like that?
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If you punched your wife and knocked her out on video, would you get a 4K bond in Ohio?
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oh no said:

Quote:

The safety of our guests, team members, and neighborhoods is nonnegotiable. It is a foundational expectation we all share.

That sounds like ultra-maga-extremist and possibly nazi fascist to me. are democrat-run cities going to stand for restaurant owners using language like that?


Something tells me this coalition is not going to lose a lot of clients over this stance. At least not ones that tip well.
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I am shocked that she would say something like that... maybe instead of labeling everything racist and defending abhorrent (can't use another word that starts with an F around here apparently) behavior because you have the same skin color, you should try calling out people and holding them accountable. Maybe then (big emphasis on maybe) you'll realize that most people aren't truly racist but are disgusted with certain behaviors/actions.
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in what way does the city councilwoman argue that those people begged to be beaten down like that?
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Its the same type of person that donates money to a gofundme for a murderer because of the perception of racial injustice
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i get that... but i'm actually asking what context or background has been provided that would lead someone like her to believe they deserved it/ were begging for it? I don't think it's going to be a good reason that would justify that type of beatdown, but I actually don't know the back story being provided here. Did they use a bad word? Were they rude to someone? I know they didn't steal from someone, or rape someone, or harm someone's child, or anything.. what is the reason this councilwoman thinks they were "begging" for it?
 
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