Aggie (w/ Green Card) detained by ICE without due process:

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American Hardwood
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infinity ag said:

deddog said:

Lived in this country for 35 years, and has a green card? So he didn't apply for citizenship?
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"If the Constitution doesn't apply to somebody who's lived in this country for 35 years and is a green-card holder and only left the country for a two-week vacation that means [the government] is basically arguing that the Constitution doesn't apply to anybody who's been in this country for less time than him," Lee told the Washington Post.

Looks like he was trying to hold on to Korean citizenship, and ICE is going to say No bueno.


There are many people who don't do so for sentimental reasons.Some countries don't allow dual, so you have to give up your original passport.
A GC gives you the best of both worlds so many choose that option. They can't vote but they don't care to.

They may not, but good money says there is an MIB with their name on it voting democrat in every election.
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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:


Typical Heterophobic Surrette hit piece. So he claims to have been here for 35 years? Why hasn't he applied for citizenship? Why hasn't he even started the process? If he doesn't want to be a citizen then send his ass home to So Korea. Something smells like BS. Green cards aren't forever. They are only good for ten years and then it has to go through the renewal process. My guess is he overstayed his visa and failed to reapply within the 90 day window and he's going home.

This is my guess too until we get the rest of the story in 48 hours. Got his green card in 2011, never renewed it when it expired in 2021. Left the country for a wedding, then tried to come back in on his Korean passport with an expired green card.
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Got his green card in 2011, never renewed it when it expired in 2021. Left the country for a wedding, then tried to come back in on his Korean passport with an expired green card.

That's the answer. He has no legal status to be in the US.
Ol_Ag_02
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Dudes 40 and has been in the Us since he was five. Plenty of time to become a citizen. Seems like he's services are no longer needed.
Owlagdad
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Ol_Ag_02 said:

Dudes 40 and has been in the Us since he was five. Plenty of time to become a citizen. Seems like he's services are no longer needed.


Been in school since 03, if he got Bachelors in 07? He's had more victory laps than the laziest, most entitled person ever!
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Logos Stick said:

rocky the dog said:

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This is messed up,

Why? Because he's an "Aggie"?


maybe this:

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"This is somebody whose research is going to save countless lives if allowed to continue farmers who are at risk of getting Lyme disease," Lee said.




That is a quote from his lawyer and his mother. My mother thought my PhD work would change the world too. But in reality it yielded 2 peer reviewed papers that are rarely cited and a decent job upon graduation.
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El Gallo Blanco
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No system is 100% perfect 100% of the time. Collateral damage. Sucks that it happened, but NBD in the grand scheme of things. Extreme outlier.
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akm91 said:

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Got his green card in 2011, never renewed it when it expired in 2021. Left the country for a wedding, then tried to come back in on his Korean passport with an expired green card.

That's the answer. He has no legal status to be in the US.

Took about a hundred highly opinionated responses to get to the actual fact of the matter.

But why not just get citizenship? in 35 years?
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Owlagdad said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Dudes 40 and has been in the Us since he was five. Plenty of time to become a citizen. Seems like he's services are no longer needed.


Been in school since 03, if he got Bachelors in 07? He's had more victory laps than the laziest, most entitled person ever!

There's no reason to impugn the dignity of Geoff Ketchum. Ability to type in complete sentences, sure, but c'mon.
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If this fact doesnt stop the bleeding of your heart:
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Tae Heung "Will" Kim, a 40-year-old South Korean citizen who has lived in the United States since he was five
then you are a lib who hates American laws.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

No system is 100% perfect 100% of the time. Collateral damage. Sucks that it happened, but NBD in the grand scheme of things. Extreme outlier.


This isn't collateral damage, this is a failure to do the right thing and deal with your immigration status properly.


Came here when he was five in 1990? How did he get here and under what status? Huge hole in the backstory. He lived here for 21 years with no visa? Then in 2011 he obtained a Green Card sponsored by TAMU. 10 years pass and his Green Card expired.

It's really simple to renew your Green Card by filing Form I-90, within the 90 window and you are usually granted the renewal automatically as long as you file the proper paperwork on time.

Now it's recommended to renew your Green Card before it expires, you can travel internationally with an expired Green Card and the USCIS receipt notice (Form I-797) as temporary proof of your status. USCIS now automatically extends the validity of Green Cards for lawful permanent residents who file Form I-90 correctly and within the cutoff time, typically your USCIS renews for 36 months automatically if you do the paperwork and are in good standing legally. He could have been deported for the weed charge regardless of the amount in Texas.

Those claiming he's being held without being told why is being dishonest because right there in the ICE statement it says he is being held for deportation removal processes.

Finally you can renew your Green Card either in writing in person, via the internet immigration portal and the I-90 form, Application to Replace Permanent Resident Card, is 7 pages long and takes less than 30 minutes to complete.
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Owlagdad said:

Ol_Ag_02 said:

Dudes 40 and has been in the Us since he was five. Plenty of time to become a citizen. Seems like he's services are no longer needed.


Been in school since 03, if he got Bachelors in 07? He's had more victory laps than the laziest, most entitled person ever!


My wife had a Korean office mate in graduate school. Not sure if it is the case with this guy, but my wife was told that in Korea, it is traditional for the wife's family to pay for the husband's schooling to ensure she has a good provider. Many of the married male Korean students maximize the time they spend in school because they aren't expected to get a job and don't have to support themselves until they finish.
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3 pages in, let me get this right:
1) KWTX story only has one side,, but, if accurate, is a really bad look for ICE
2) multiple posters invoke the 48 hour rule (a smart standard practice)
3) with no new information, posters start spitballing that this guy didn't renew his green card
4) it now appears an article of faith in the thread that he didn't renew his green card and it expired (still with no new information indicating if that's true)

So are we waiting 48 hours, or are we all rolling out our Jump to Conclusions mats?
ABATTBQ11
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Does ICE not have anything better to do? Why are we spending tax dollars on this?
Scruffy
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Keep in mind one of the common themes in green card holders being deported is drug convictions (even if only misdemeanor MJ).
txags92
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ABATTBQ11 said:

Does ICE not have anything better to do? Why are we spending tax dollars on this?

So if a guy who has (presumably) been in the country illegally for several years on an expired green card decides to try to come back into the country without legal paperwork, ICE is just supposed to ignore all that and let him in because they "have better things to do"?
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ABATTBQ11 said:

Does ICE not have anything better to do? Why are we spending tax dollars on this?


This is a port of entry arrest. ICE is at ports of entry to deal with deportations if something improper is uncovered upon entry. This is exactly one of the things they should be doing.
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ABATTBQ11 said:

Does ICE not have anything better to do? Why are we spending tax dollars on this?


You mean like Immigration and Customs enforcement?
Owlagdad
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How do you say pendejo in Korean?
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Daddy-O5 said:

ABATTBQ11 said:

Does ICE not have anything better to do? Why are we spending tax dollars on this?


You mean like Immigration and Customs enforcement?

LOL exactly. What does he think ICE does?
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jacketman03 said:

3 pages in, let me get this right:
1) KWTX story only has one side,, but, if accurate, is a really bad look for ICE
2) multiple posters invoke the 48 hour rule (a smart standard practice)
3) with no new information, posters start spitballing that this guy didn't renew his green card
4) it now appears an article of faith in the thread that he didn't renew his green card and it expired (still with no new information indicating if that's true)

So are we waiting 48 hours, or are we all rolling out our Jump to Conclusions mats?

You can do whatever you want. The 48 hours isn't really a rule FYI.
Biz Ag
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Green cards have expiration dates.

I'd be willing to wager that's the issue here.

And if it is, I'll never understand why someone with that level of education couldn't get around to renewing it.
TexasAggiesWin
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Bocephus???
txags92
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redcrayon said:

Daddy-O5 said:

ABATTBQ11 said:

Does ICE not have anything better to do? Why are we spending tax dollars on this?


You mean like Immigration and Customs enforcement?

LOL exactly. What does he think ICE does?

Duh, kidnapping innocent kids at schools!

/Libs
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redcrayon said:

jacketman03 said:

3 pages in, let me get this right:
1) KWTX story only has one side,, but, if accurate, is a really bad look for ICE
2) multiple posters invoke the 48 hour rule (a smart standard practice)
3) with no new information, posters start spitballing that this guy didn't renew his green card
4) it now appears an article of faith in the thread that he didn't renew his green card and it expired (still with no new information indicating if that's true)

So are we waiting 48 hours, or are we all rolling out our Jump to Conclusions mats?

You can do whatever you want. The 48 hours isn't really a rule FYI.


Oh I know, I just thought it was funny how the vibe shifted from "let's give this time to get more information" to "he's been in the US for 4 years without legal status" after we got, *checks notes* zero more information.
TAMUallen
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But but but green card!
redcrayon
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jacketman03 said:

redcrayon said:

jacketman03 said:

3 pages in, let me get this right:
1) KWTX story only has one side,, but, if accurate, is a really bad look for ICE
2) multiple posters invoke the 48 hour rule (a smart standard practice)
3) with no new information, posters start spitballing that this guy didn't renew his green card
4) it now appears an article of faith in the thread that he didn't renew his green card and it expired (still with no new information indicating if that's true)

So are we waiting 48 hours, or are we all rolling out our Jump to Conclusions mats?

You can do whatever you want. The 48 hours isn't really a rule FYI.


Oh I know, I just thought it was funny how the vibe shifted from "let's give this time to get more information" to "he's been in the US for 4 years without legal status" after we got, *checks notes* zero more information.

It's a message board. The responses will be varied. It looks like someone skimmed a post and took it as fact when it clearly said it MIGHT be the issue.
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Gotta go back!
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jacketman03 said:

3 pages in, let me get this right:
1) KWTX story only has one side,, but, if accurate, is a really bad look for ICE
2) multiple posters invoke the 48 hour rule (a smart standard practice)
3) with no new information, posters start spitballing that this guy didn't renew his green card
4) it now appears an article of faith in the thread that he didn't renew his green card and it expired (still with no new information indicating if that's true)

So are we waiting 48 hours, or are we all rolling out our Jump to Conclusions mats?
The only acceptable judiciary for this incident is to send him out to The 213 and let the Rooftop Koreans decide if he's worthy of staying.

My guess is... They're going to send him packing back to Gangnam.
samurai_science
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You have to go back
jacketman03
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HollywoodBQ said:

jacketman03 said:

3 pages in, let me get this right:
1) KWTX story only has one side,, but, if accurate, is a really bad look for ICE
2) multiple posters invoke the 48 hour rule (a smart standard practice)
3) with no new information, posters start spitballing that this guy didn't renew his green card
4) it now appears an article of faith in the thread that he didn't renew his green card and it expired (still with no new information indicating if that's true)

So are we waiting 48 hours, or are we all rolling out our Jump to Conclusions mats?
The only acceptable judiciary for this incident is to send him out to The 213 and let the Rooftop Koreans decide if he's worthy of staying.

My guess is... They're going to send him packing back to Gangnam.

So it is written, so it shall be done
Stat Monitor Repairman
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Does A&M have some sort of program in place to check it's employees immigration status?

If the guy had an expired green-card then there's no way he could've been employed by TAMU as an infectious disease researcher. That's basic compliance 24-years post 9-11 and they'd have caught that.

But on the other hand if the guy showed up at the port of entry with valid immigration documents CBP would have let him right through.

He must've been flagged in their system or didn't have a valid document to enter the US and they detained him.
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my first wife was British

while dating, hr father died. She went back for the funeral.
At the gate she said , " they don't have to let me back in"

what?

that was 1981
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The guy is a guest in this country, at best. ICE is doing their job.

Period. No need to jump to conclusions. ICE is 100% in the right.
 
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