trip said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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I still think lack of involved fathers and strong male role models is one of the greatest epidemics plaguing our country, behind white liberal women.

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So liberal woman caused both of the biggest epidemics plaguing our country.

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Yeah, but gotta give men having kids and splitting some of the blame.

samurai_science said:

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trip said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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I still think lack of involved fathers and strong male role models is one of the greatest epidemics plaguing our country, behind white liberal women.

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So liberal woman caused both of the biggest epidemics plaguing our country.

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Kids of single mothers have the highest levels of crime and mental health issues. Liberal woman themselves have the highest number of mental health disorders, and this is proven by data and studies.


Kids from these households are cooked

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One step further, I saw stats from a study a while back that blew my mind...

Basically, children raised by father, with no mom, outperform children raised by mom, with no father...SIGNIFICANTLY. By every metric. They are less likely to be incarcerated, or become addicts. Less likely to be depressed and suffer from mental illness.

Fathers matter WAY MORE than even most conservatives think. We've been conditioned over the decades to view women as far more vital than men in child rearing and guidance.

You can't "bring back bullying" under the justification it's a learning tool when the exact things yall are recommending (stand up to the bully, fight back etc) gets the victim in just as much (if not more if victim cheap shots the bully) trouble.

That really effs up a mindset. Being told to stand up for yourself and then when you do you're punished. Perhaps there's a lesson to be learned there … but the point is, the system protects bullies in its misguided attempt to end it.

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Stive said:

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Want to get rid of the Furries in schools? Turn the bullies loose.

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Let me guess? You know someone who knows someone whose kid goes to school where they keep litter boxes in the bathroom.

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As far as I can tell, the litter box thing is (presumably) an urban legend. Maybe there was one school that did something stupid like this, and the far right wing ran with it like they do with TONS of stuff when it comes to public schools.

At the HS where my kids attend, there are kids that wear cat ears, hiss at students in the hall, make "cat scratching motions" towards other students when they look at them weird, or speak to them in the lunch room, etc. And I'm not in a blue state...I'm in a mid-sized district in East Texas.

This kind of behavior started around 3rd or 4th grade at the elementary campus and continued through JH. It's a subjective guess, but I don't think it would have happened 30-40 years ago because the playground would have been a filtering process for this stuff. They would have gotten teased a bit messed with some, or some big redneck dummy classmate of mine would have pulled the ears off their head and not given them back.

A certain amount of peer-pressure isn't all bad if it's for the right reasons and helps establish certain societal norms and guidelines.

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I knew a kid or two who did the hiss / scratching motions in the hall sometimes and that was 1990 in middle school. The kid was weird, and so were his parents, but it definitely was a thing back then.

BenFiasco14 said:

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You can't "bring back bullying" under the justification it's a learning tool when the exact things yall are recommending (stand up to the bully, fight back etc) gets the victim in just as much (if not more if victim cheap shots the bully) trouble.

That really effs up a mindset. Being told to stand up for yourself and then when you do you're punished. Perhaps there's a lesson to be learned there … but the point is, the system protects bullies in its misguided attempt to end it.

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Yep, again going back to the supposed good ol' days of the late '80s-mid '90s that's exactly what happened when I stood up for myself. When you bring up problems at home and to people at school and all that you hear is what's going to happen to you if you fight back (and it's worse than what you're already dealing with) you've basically doomed the kid. All I wanted, and prayed about at night, was to go to sleep and never wake up and this was middle school.

When I finally said to hell with what my dad and teachers were saying (since school was worse and I was getting it all day, every day) I'd wait until they got a swing or two in which gets people's attention, then hit back. It's amazing how quickly someone will run off when they have braces and get popped in the mouth. One of their parents even threatened to sue.

You're right though, the system was unintentionally set up to protect them even back then. 'Bring back bullying' does nothing.