He can't help it. It's in his jeans.

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He can't help it. It's in his jeans.

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I don't own jeans.

Ryan the Temp said:

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American Hardwood said:

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I find it utterly unsurprising that democrats, as demonstrated on this thread and in the government in this case, are fully on board with gaming the system for their own benefit. It's very exemplifying.

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Because Republicans have never gamed the system for their own benefit ... like by convening for the purpose of out-of-cycle redistricting to increase the number of Republican House districts because Trump is afraid of losing the House in 2026. I find it utterly unsurprising that Republicans, as demonstrated on this board, are fully on board with gaming the system for their own benefit.

Democrats need to stop being ******* and start using the Republican playbook to get stuff done.

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Republicans are just trying to catch up to the Dems, who have gamed the system far longer than the GOP...

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TX_COWDOC said:

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He can't help it. It's in his jeans.

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I don't own jeans.

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I guess Sydney Sweeney won't change your mind.

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This is all okay because of like 10 year increments and ****

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EOT. Republicans have every right to move forward with the redistricting plan, whenever they damn well want.

Democrats are such drama queen whiners when they lose. And they will lose this one, it's just a matter of when.

Dems mad the GOP using the same play book they do, cry more dems.

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In response to Democrats doing it. Also, there is no set cycle for redistricting. It can be done any time a state chooses to do so. It is, as someone would say, legitimate.

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Texas actually has historical precedent of conducting redistricting if or when they see fit. A lawsuit filed by the Harris County Republican Party chairman in 1963 forced the Democrats in the Texas Legislature to address redistricting in 1965. That Harris County Chairman won the newly created CD7 seat in 1966.

He was also elected POTUS in 1988.

Prior to that, the Texas Legislature had sometimes skipped redistricting for decades at a time.

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And they will lose this one, it's just a matter of when.

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Indeed, but that doesn't mean they need to take advice from Clayton Williams.

Now days, it is very hard to be a Democrat and not also be a flaming liberal. It is also mathematically improbable to be a flaming liberal and not be stupid or completely uninformed!

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American Hardwood said:

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I find it utterly unsurprising that democrats, as demonstrated on this thread and in the government in this case, are fully on board with gaming the system for their own benefit. It's very exemplifying.

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Because Republicans have never gamed the system for their own benefit ... like by convening for the purpose of out-of-cycle redistricting to increase the number of Republican House districts because Trump is afraid of losing the House in 2026. I find it utterly unsurprising that Republicans, as demonstrated on this board, are fully on board with gaming the system for their own benefit.

Democrats need to stop being ******* and start using the Republican playbook to get stuff done.

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Other than the first half sentence, it's impressive how much wrong can be posted in one post. The last sentence is laughably naive and I hope sarcasm, but I doubt it.

Texas House Democrats were evacuated from their hotel in Illinois this morning due to a bomb threat. A press conference for this afternoon was cancelled.

Caucus leaders say they are safe in this statement: pic.twitter.com/Mdt45qUEHh

— Taylor Goldenstein (@taygoldenstein) August 6, 2025

Probably called it in themselves to get out of paying for their rooms, particularly once it was learned the source of those payments would be scrutinized.

So they pulled the "Spirit Airlines Comp Yo Hotel" lever.

Let me guess. The caller was wearing a red hat and carrying a foot long Subway sandwich with a noose around his neck. Am I close?

Ellis Wyatt said:

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Let me guess. The caller was wearing a red hat and carrying a foot long Subway sandwich with a noose around his neck. Am I close?

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Is the black community being oddly quiet about this? -Chappelle voice

The Texas Supreme Court has now ordered the runaway ring leader of the derelict Democrats to respond to my lawsuit by Friday. pic.twitter.com/AS2OaX0zPF

— Greg Abbott (@GregAbbott_TX) August 6, 2025

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It could be federal if you're sending money across state lines. But, I thought I read something where there are so many available loopholes to get them money that it makes a bribery charge almost impossible to stick.

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Tend to agree. Bribery of a US Congresscritter? Yeah sure, that would be federal. But a state Rep inside a state? State jurisdiction, if provable. Obstruction of Congressional duties or hearings (think Jan 6th) yes federal.

So still a bit confused.

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State officials have been charged under 18 U.S.C. 201 for accepting bribes in the commision of their position - Rod Blagojevich being one of the most famous.

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Just curious what may show up during investigation of all financial records?
Here's hoping for some evidence of multiple felonies may be found.

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Leaving the state in abdication of your elected responsibilities is not a First Amendment issue. There is nothing about that that is protected speech.

They can be heard on the floor of the House while they're doing what they were elected to do.

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Let alone all MSM broadcasting their speeches while in various other states. Maybe these miscreants should be making their speeches in the Texas State legislature, cowards they are.

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It could be federal if you're sending money across state lines. But, I thought I read something where there are so many available loopholes to get them money that it makes a bribery charge almost impossible to stick.

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Tend to agree. Bribery of a US Congresscritter? Yeah sure, that would be federal. But a state Rep inside a state? State jurisdiction, if provable. Obstruction of Congressional duties or hearings (think Jan 6th) yes federal.

So still a bit confused.

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State officials have been charged under 18 U.S.C. 201 for accepting bribes in the commision of their position - Rod Blagojevich being one of the most famous.

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If officials outside of Texas bribed Democrats to leave the state, it's a federal offense.

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Do you have a link showing this was the charge?

18 USC 201 specifically defines "public official" as:

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means Member of Congress, Delegate, or Resident Commissioner, either before or after such official has qualified, or an officer or employee or person acting for or on behalf of the United States, or any department, agency or branch of Government thereof, including the District of Columbia, in any official function, under or by authority of any such department, agency, or branch of Government, or a juror;

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These types have no use for facts.

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YOU should NEVER talk about having a use for facts...

I was correct in my statement - they did redistricting in 2024. I misunderstood WHY they had done it in 2024. Mea culpa.

BTW, what HTown didn't tell you was WHY the process took so long...the Dems attempt to gerrymander in 2020 was SO BLATANTLY BAD that it was ruled unconstitutional...Not sure why HTown left THAT fact out of his snarky response to me...

Following the 2020 census, the Democratic-controlled state legislature rejected the maps submitted by the IRC and instead enacted its own maps. Republican plaintiffs challenged those districts in state court, arguing that they were unconstitutional gerrymanders in violation of the 2014 amendment. In a 2022 decision, the New York State Court of Appeals agreed, striking down the state legislature's maps and holding that they were drawn with impermissible partisan intent.

Now, do you care about the fact that Democrats gerrymandered much worse than TX and have done so for years?

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Thank you for the respnse response. And what you provided was quite interesting, informative and factual.
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• The state legislature, in early 2024, approved new congressional districts. This time, no court challenges were filed

And that after approval w/ no court challenge California New York still had egregious gerrymandering.

edit. I named the wrong state, "California on my mind" or senility setting in.

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This thread is filled with butthurt feels from people who are mad at Dems for preventing Republicans from getting what they want.

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Those Dems are not doing anything other than looking pathetic. You have a couple angry disgruntled black women taking up the spotlight, or heaven forbid Al Green find a live camera.

Dems cannot stop this and the longer that obstruct the stupider they look. Let them hold out until 2026. The party of Abrego-Garcia, mayor Bass, Tim Walz, Newsom, Crockett, AOC, Bernie, sparticus? Pocahontas? Dumbface Booker? Mayor Pete? Kamala? Hunter Biden? Hilldawg? Schumer?

Start sprinkling in Momdani and friends and top to bottom the Dems are talentless. Keep up these antics and midterms could be epic. Imagine what Trump will do with supermajorities in both houses and another couple
ScOTUS picks.

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I would add Swallwell

Brisket boy with the dig:

Guess the Attorney General was too busy doing who knows what overseas so the Governor had to use his own lawyers. https://t.co/5yTKtf6ImG

— Senator John Cornyn (@JohnCornyn) August 5, 2025

Why wait until Friday @KenPaxtonTX? Are you worried that forcing Dems to return to Texas would ruin your European vacation? https://t.co/MX79MBeG7r

— Senator John Cornyn (@JohnCornyn) August 6, 2025

Can't say I understand Paxton's play asking for a delay. We know Burrows is buddies with the folks who ran away...they are the reason he holds the speaker's gavel. Why play into that desired timeline instead of playing hardball now?

He's says only the AG can bring, not the Governor.

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And they will lose this one, it's just a matter of when.

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Indeed, but that doesn't mean they need to take advice from Clayton Williams.

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...and you will stop taking advice from Beto anytime.....?

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He's says only the AG can bring, not the Governor.

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Ok, well then get off your a** and do it! Not like he can't work remotely during his vacation. I am no fan of Cornyn, but it is a bad look for Paxton to appear to be delaying doing anything until he gets back from a leisure trip.

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I am still waiting for a single one of them to condemn their own party's massive gerrymandering in every state they can do it.

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I loathe gerrymandering period. Always have. I don't care what letter is behind your name. This, "but he did it," game is getting old between the parties. Someone needs to act like a grownup in the room.

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I am still waiting for a single one of them to condemn their own party's massive gerrymandering in every state they can do it.

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Dems need race as an issue as most humans need oxygen.

The problem for them is that many more people no longer rely on CNN/NPR etc. for news/analysis. Democrats have zero defense against political gerrymandering, absent race. That's why this is so existential to them.

I have to chuckle at what a dissent by KBJ on this issue might look like, regarding overturning 'majority minority' districts as a constitutional imperative. I'd probably read that thing all the way through something like a half dozen times just for the entertainment.

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Probably called it in themselves to get out of paying for their rooms, particularly once it was learned the source of those payments would be scrutinized.

So they pulled the "Spirit Airlines Comp Yo Hotel" lever.

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They probably did it themselves to get headlines from the legacy media in a blatant attempt to garner sympathy because of the postion they are in due to the mean, unfair, cheating Republicans.

Don't believe one thing you hear from the national media. They are in this fight with the Democrats and will do anything within their power to slant the narrative in their favor - inlucing making up or planting stories based on false premises

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I am still waiting for a single one of them to condemn their own party's massive gerrymandering in every state they can do it.

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I loathe gerrymandering period. Always have. I don't care what left is behind your name. This, "but he did it," game is getting old between the parties. Someone needs to act like a grownup in the room.

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There is NO WAY to draw a district map without political bias. It's impossible.

Even when I try with tools like DavesRedistricting...

If I try to draw a map that minimizes County Splitting in big metro areas - there will be a remainder that will be attached to a red area most likely. Then you end up splitting the county next door to accommodate the needed split. Inevitably, political bias would STILL be used no matter what - because someone has to decide what areas will be combined with other areas.

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Governor Newsom threatens to gerrymandering the state in respnse. I heard 40% of the people voted Republican, going to be hard to eliminate those remaining 3.
The Democratic Party leadership is unethical, amoral, dishonest and dishonorable. Anyone considering voting for any Democratic candidate should immediately reconsider their voting intentions.

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Texas House Democrats were evacuated from their hotel in Illinois this morning due to a bomb threat. A press conference for this afternoon was cancelled.

Caucus leaders say they are safe in this statement: pic.twitter.com/Mdt45qUEHh

— Taylor Goldenstein (@taygoldenstein) August 6, 2025

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Jussie Smollett in town?

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American Hardwood said:

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I find it utterly unsurprising that democrats, as demonstrated on this thread and in the government in this case, are fully on board with gaming the system for their own benefit. It's very exemplifying.

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Because Republicans have never gamed the system for their own benefit ... like by convening for the purpose of out-of-cycle redistricting to increase the number of Republican House districts because Trump is afraid of losing the House in 2026. I find it utterly unsurprising that Republicans, as demonstrated on this board, are fully on board with gaming the system for their own benefit.

Democrats need to stop being ******* and start using the Republican playbook to get stuff done.

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Stunning.

I don't know how one lives in Bizarro world such as demonstrated here, but there you go.

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I am still waiting for a single one of them to condemn their own party's massive gerrymandering in every state they can do it.

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I loathe gerrymandering period. Always have. I don't care what left is behind your name. This, "but he did it," game is getting old between the parties. Someone needs to act like a grownup in the room.

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Ok, so if politics is all about numbers, and our opponent has stacked the deck in their states to maximise their numbers in the US Congress, we are just supposed to "be the better man" and leave the deck unstacked in our own states? That is the pathway to permanent minority status in the Congress. If they are going to do it and it is deemed legal, then we should absolutely be doing it too. Doesn't matter if we would "rather not have to resort to that", because they have already done it and will bury us if we don't respond.