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talarico unsettles the christian right because he embodies a version of christianity they cannot control. his faith is not angry or punitive, it is compassionate and rooted in the gospel's command to love the least of these. that directly threatens the republican project of monopolizing and wielding religion as a weapon of resentment.

their cultural monopoly on "real christianity" is cracking, and the louder they squeal about talarico, the clearer it becomes that people are hungry for an alternative

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Holy **** this is delusional and ignorant. You clearly have a very poor grasp on the thought processes of conservatives or you're just making **** up to make yourself feel better about supporting a party of pure evil. You should probably seek counseling.

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your anger doesn't erase the truth. talarico shows that Christianity isn't owned by the right. when he preaches compassion, justice, and humility, it resonates because it is scriptural.

the fact many here are erupting in fury proves their fear of losing monopoly over Christ's name. if your argument is only to shout that it's "delusional," you've already conceded you can't disprove it.

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This isn't about whether it's left or right.
I've listened to him on Joe Rogan. He conveniently sidesteps and lies/deflects about politically inconvenient readings in the Bible.

And people who preach compassion, justice, and humility, but don't talk about judgment, or knowingly try to reinterpret the Bible to meet their political goals are false teachers.
God isn't kind to false teachers.

Link says "deeply Christian Democrat". This is an oxymoron. Democrat pillars are slaughtering unborn babies, killing toddlers with vaccines, sexually perverting and mutilating children, promoting unlimited genders among teens, allowing mentally ill boys in girls sports, removing God from schools, opening our borders to sex traffickers, releasing violent criminals from prison, attacking law enforcement officers, and stealing taxpayer dollars for all of this. That pretty much violates all Ten Commandments.

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Scripture is fairly explicit about sexual acts outside of marriage (fair enough), but it was also pretty explicit about slavery.

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The OT sets pragmatic guidelines around how slaves were to be treated. I don't think the Bible states that slavery is good or bad, it is just a natural human economic arrangement resulting from wars, famine, conflict, etc.

Most of human history was a world of scarcity and shortages of food, water, etc that we can't imagine today.

Had you been able to go back in time as earth's dictator and mandate 'NO SLAVERY', then the losers in wars and conquered peoples would have simply been killed and exited the gene pool. Very few of us would be here in that case.

With something like sexuality, bestiality, homosexuality etc it's completely different: clear moral stances are taken on those issues.

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This is a common objection: "Well slavery was just part of the culture of that time. God didn't really like slavery, but he was just establishing rules around slavery and leading humanity down the path of eventually abolishing it".

So my first objection to that is fairly simple. HES GOD! If he can make specific rules about not eating certain kinds of foods, and not wearing certain kinds of fabrics, and not picking up sticks on the sabbath, etc. etc. how hard is it to say "Don't own other people as property"? And as I pointed out earlier, if the best rules he could put around slavery include "you can beat them as long as they don't die" that's already problematic.

Also, the bible could not have been more clear about condoning slavery.

Leviticus 25:45-47: "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life".

I don't think it can be much more clear than that. You can buy slaves from other nations and they are your property forever.

Old McDonald said:

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Phatbob said:

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Old McDonald said:

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aggieforester05 said:

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Old McDonald said:

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aggieforester05 said:

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Old McDonald said:

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talarico unsettles the christian right because he embodies a version of christianity they cannot control. his faith is not angry or punitive, it is compassionate and rooted in the gospel's command to love the least of these. that directly threatens the republican project of monopolizing and wielding religion as a weapon of resentment.

their cultural monopoly on "real christianity" is cracking, and the louder they squeal about talarico, the clearer it becomes that people are hungry for an alternative

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Holy **** this is delusional and ignorant. You clearly have a very poor grasp on the thought processes of conservatives or you're just making **** up to make yourself feel better about supporting a party of pure evil. You should probably seek counseling.

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your anger doesn't erase the truth. talarico shows that Christianity isn't owned by the right. when he preaches compassion, justice, and humility, it resonates because it is scriptural.

the fact many here are erupting in fury proves their fear of losing monopoly over Christ's name. if your argument is only to shout that it's "delusional," you've already conceded you can't disprove it.

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No it's to point out that your narrative was so detached from reality that there's no point in even trying to argue. The Democrat party represents none of what you described above.

Their platform of pathological propagandizing (lying)
censorship (positions unable to withstand scrutiny)
abortion (murder)
gun control (leaving law abiding peaceful citizens vulnerable to government overreach and violent crime)
mass importation of third world people through manipulation of the asylum system (a transparent and amoral attempt to dilute the voting power of their political opposition)
destroying the best healthcare system in the world for poor quality rationed care
raising taxes so they can launder even more taxpayer dollars back into Democrat and personal coffers
Stealing from hardworking taxpayers to buy votes from the lazy and then calling that action "compassionate".
I guess it's more compassionate than sucking the brains out of a baby or severing it's spinal cord with scissors while it's still alive, but **** bag Democrats and liberals will call that compassionate too. Just horrible people through and through!
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There's nothing about that rancid and depraved party that aligns with Christianity

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your list is a string of talking points, not theology. none of it proves Christianity is incompatible with liberal politics.

Scripture calls us to care for the poor, welcome the stranger, heal the sick, and seek justice. that aligns far more closely with policies conservatives deride as "welfare" or "healthcare reform" than with tax cuts for the rich or militarized borders.

calling abortion "murder" is an interpretation, not Christ's teaching.

framing immigrants as dilution is the opposite of leviticus 19:34: "the foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. love them as yourself."

labeling compassion as corruption only shows how far right-wing Christianity has strayed from the Gospel. the rancid part isn't the democrats' platform, it's weaponizing Christ to sanctify cruelty.

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There is absolutely nothing compassionate about pawning off your individual responsibility to love and care for your neighbor to a careless and loveless bureaucracy. There is nothing loving about turning healthcare into a socialistic nightmare. Your sanctimonious feelings have nothing to do with the reality of the damage your ideology causes in the real world.

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compassion isn't erased when government plays a role. Christ commands love of neighbor, modern societies carry that out through systems as well as individuals.

government healthcare that extends care to millions is closer to the Gospel than leaving people to suffer untreated. bureaucracy may be imperfect, but indifference is worse.

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There is absolutely no part of your statement that matches with reality. There can be no less love shown than a government bureaucracy. It also pins any social problems into place and sets them to be stagnant forever. It is immoral in that it creates a political power base and an industry of jobs and contracts that rely on the perpetuation of the problem. The ones who "benefit" from government also do not get compassion. If you have ever been part of the system, you have seen it.

Government healthcare is exactly how you eliminate healthcare for the most people in the long run. That is not just imperfect, it is harmful.

I get that you want to feel better about yourself by supporting the government doing your "loving your neighbor" for you, but I assure you, it is not how it can be done, and in fact, it makes it worse. Your version of compassion is making the poor poorer, and the sick sicker.

Old McDonald said:

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Phatbob said:

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Old McDonald said:

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aggieforester05 said:

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Old McDonald said:

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aggieforester05 said:

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Old McDonald said:

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talarico unsettles the christian right because he embodies a version of christianity they cannot control. his faith is not angry or punitive, it is compassionate and rooted in the gospel's command to love the least of these. that directly threatens the republican project of monopolizing and wielding religion as a weapon of resentment.

their cultural monopoly on "real christianity" is cracking, and the louder they squeal about talarico, the clearer it becomes that people are hungry for an alternative

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Holy **** this is delusional and ignorant. You clearly have a very poor grasp on the thought processes of conservatives or you're just making **** up to make yourself feel better about supporting a party of pure evil. You should probably seek counseling.

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your anger doesn't erase the truth. talarico shows that Christianity isn't owned by the right. when he preaches compassion, justice, and humility, it resonates because it is scriptural.

the fact many here are erupting in fury proves their fear of losing monopoly over Christ's name. if your argument is only to shout that it's "delusional," you've already conceded you can't disprove it.

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No it's to point out that your narrative was so detached from reality that there's no point in even trying to argue. The Democrat party represents none of what you described above.

Their platform of pathological propagandizing (lying)
censorship (positions unable to withstand scrutiny)
abortion (murder)
gun control (leaving law abiding peaceful citizens vulnerable to government overreach and violent crime)
mass importation of third world people through manipulation of the asylum system (a transparent and amoral attempt to dilute the voting power of their political opposition)
destroying the best healthcare system in the world for poor quality rationed care
raising taxes so they can launder even more taxpayer dollars back into Democrat and personal coffers
Stealing from hardworking taxpayers to buy votes from the lazy and then calling that action "compassionate".
I guess it's more compassionate than sucking the brains out of a baby or severing it's spinal cord with scissors while it's still alive, but **** bag Democrats and liberals will call that compassionate too. Just horrible people through and through!
Etc
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There's nothing about that rancid and depraved party that aligns with Christianity

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your list is a string of talking points, not theology. none of it proves Christianity is incompatible with liberal politics.

Scripture calls us to care for the poor, welcome the stranger, heal the sick, and seek justice. that aligns far more closely with policies conservatives deride as "welfare" or "healthcare reform" than with tax cuts for the rich or militarized borders.

calling abortion "murder" is an interpretation, not Christ's teaching.

framing immigrants as dilution is the opposite of leviticus 19:34: "the foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. love them as yourself."

labeling compassion as corruption only shows how far right-wing Christianity has strayed from the Gospel. the rancid part isn't the democrats' platform, it's weaponizing Christ to sanctify cruelty.

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There is absolutely nothing compassionate about pawning off your individual responsibility to love and care for your neighbor to a careless and loveless bureaucracy. There is nothing loving about turning healthcare into a socialistic nightmare. Your sanctimonious feelings have nothing to do with the reality of the damage your ideology causes in the real world.

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compassion isn't erased when government plays a role. Christ commands love of neighbor, modern societies carry that out through systems as well as individuals.

government healthcare that extends care to millions is closer to the Gospel than leaving people to suffer untreated. bureaucracy may be imperfect, but indifference is worse.

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No. It's not.
I don't see a message anywhere in the Bible where it says give your money to Government authority so they can do good deeds on your behalf. (notwithstanding the fact that this doesn't actually happen)

There are a number of churches that you can give your money to, that are far more effective than a government bureaucracy.

Tallarco came across as a slimey politician in his interview with Rogan.
Tallarco is right, in that abortion shouldn't define Christianity. He also blatantly lies when he says there's no reference to it in the Bible. Yes, the bible doesn't use the word abortion (its a new word), but its clear that we are all Gods children and you don't murder Gods children.

His view of the Bible conveniently mirrors the Democrat party's beliefs. Gay marriage is not a sin, and abortions are fine etc.
That is false teaching, and he is a charlatan. At best.

Owning slaves is not a sin. Neither is being a racist and other things you find icky.

Talarico isn't a charlatan, he is a pure heretic.

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Scripture is fairly explicit about sexual acts outside of marriage (fair enough), but it was also pretty explicit about slavery.

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The OT sets pragmatic guidelines around how slaves were to be treated. I don't think the Bible states that slavery is good or bad, it is just a natural human economic arrangement resulting from wars, famine, conflict, etc.

Most of human history was a world of scarcity and shortages of food, water, etc that we can't imagine today.

Had you been able to go back in time as earth's dictator and mandate 'NO SLAVERY', then the losers in wars and conquered peoples would have simply been killed and exited the gene pool. Very few of us would be here in that case.

With something like sexuality, bestiality, homosexuality etc it's completely different: clear moral stances are taken on those issues.

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This is a common objection: "Well slavery was just part of the culture of that time. God didn't really like slavery, but he was just establishing rules around slavery and leading humanity down the path of eventually abolishing it".

So my first objection to that is fairly simple. HES GOD! If he can make specific rules about not eating certain kinds of foods, and not wearing certain kinds of fabrics, and not picking up sticks on the sabbath, etc. etc. how hard is it to say "Don't own other people as property"? And as I pointed out earlier, if the best rules he could put around slavery include "you can beat them as long as they don't die" that's already problematic.

Also, the bible could not have been more clear about condoning slavery.

Leviticus 25:45-47: "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life".

I don't think it can be much more clear than that. You can buy slaves from other nations and they are your property forever.

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Think of the old testament as having rules for toddlers. GOD gave rules to the people based on their spiritual (im)maturity.

You can't reason with a toddler. You give them rules - Don't run down the stairs. Don't play in the street. Don't play with matches. That's why the Old testament had 600+ rules, and the 10 commandments.

As you get more mature, the rules change, because you become an adult and can reason.
Same for God's people.
Hence the New Testament. Jesus gave us a new covenant which is far superior to the old one. GOD realized that we are broken people. Sinners. Every one of us.
Jesus is the way and you will get to heaven based on HIS grace alone, not by your deeds.

"Seminary"

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Old McDonald said:

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Old McDonald said:

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talarico unsettles the christian right because he embodies a version of christianity they cannot control. his faith is not angry or punitive, it is compassionate and rooted in the gospel's command to love the least of these. that directly threatens the republican project of monopolizing and wielding religion as a weapon of resentment.

their cultural monopoly on "real christianity" is cracking, and the louder they squeal about talarico, the clearer it becomes that people are hungry for an alternative

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Holy **** this is delusional and ignorant. You clearly have a very poor grasp on the thought processes of conservatives or you're just making **** up to make yourself feel better about supporting a party of pure evil. You should probably seek counseling.

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your anger doesn't erase the truth. talarico shows that Christianity isn't owned by the right. when he preaches compassion, justice, and humility, it resonates because it is scriptural.

the fact many here are erupting in fury proves their fear of losing monopoly over Christ's name. if your argument is only to shout that it's "delusional," you've already conceded you can't disprove it.

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No it's to point out that your narrative was so detached from reality that there's no point in even trying to argue. The Democrat party represents none of what you described above.

Their platform of pathological propagandizing (lying)
censorship (positions unable to withstand scrutiny)
abortion (murder)
gun control (leaving law abiding peaceful citizens vulnerable to government overreach and violent crime)
mass importation of third world people through manipulation of the asylum system (a transparent and amoral attempt to dilute the voting power of their political opposition)
destroying the best healthcare system in the world for poor quality rationed care
raising taxes so they can launder even more taxpayer dollars back into Democrat and personal coffers
Stealing from hardworking taxpayers to buy votes from the lazy and then calling that action "compassionate".
I guess it's more compassionate than sucking the brains out of a baby or severing it's spinal cord with scissors while it's still alive, but **** bag Democrats and liberals will call that compassionate too. Just horrible people through and through!
Etc
Etc
Etc

There's nothing about that rancid and depraved party that aligns with Christianity

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your list is a string of talking points, not theology. none of it proves Christianity is incompatible with liberal politics.

Scripture calls us to care for the poor, welcome the stranger, heal the sick, and seek justice. that aligns far more closely with policies conservatives deride as "welfare" or "healthcare reform" than with tax cuts for the rich or militarized borders.

calling abortion "murder" is an interpretation, not Christ's teaching.

framing immigrants as dilution is the opposite of leviticus 19:34: "the foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. love them as yourself."

labeling compassion as corruption only shows how far right-wing Christianity has strayed from the Gospel. the rancid part isn't the democrats' platform, it's weaponizing Christ to sanctify cruelty.

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"Scripture calls us to care for the poor, welcome the stranger, heal the sick, and seek justice. that aligns far more closely with policies conservatives deride as "welfare" or "healthcare reform" than with tax cuts for the rich or militarized borders." - Correct; this is the job of the church. Nowhere in Scripture calls for this to be the job of the government

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Talarico isn't a charlatan, he is a pure heretic.

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Y'all are wild.

He's a well spoken candidate and I see him doing well. Will that be enough in Texas? We'll see.

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Teslag said:

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Talarico isn't a charlatan, he is a pure heretic.

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Y'all are wild.

He's a well spoken candidate and I see him doing well. Will that be enough in Texas? We'll see.

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I completely disagree. He hasn't ever really said anything of substance. He has never really been challenged.

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Old McDonald said:

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aggieforester05 said:

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Old McDonald said:

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aggieforester05 said:

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Old McDonald said:

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talarico unsettles the christian right because he embodies a version of christianity they cannot control. his faith is not angry or punitive, it is compassionate and rooted in the gospel's command to love the least of these. that directly threatens the republican project of monopolizing and wielding religion as a weapon of resentment.

their cultural monopoly on "real christianity" is cracking, and the louder they squeal about talarico, the clearer it becomes that people are hungry for an alternative

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Holy **** this is delusional and ignorant. You clearly have a very poor grasp on the thought processes of conservatives or you're just making **** up to make yourself feel better about supporting a party of pure evil. You should probably seek counseling.

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your anger doesn't erase the truth. talarico shows that Christianity isn't owned by the right. when he preaches compassion, justice, and humility, it resonates because it is scriptural.

the fact many here are erupting in fury proves their fear of losing monopoly over Christ's name. if your argument is only to shout that it's "delusional," you've already conceded you can't disprove it.

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No it's to point out that your narrative was so detached from reality that there's no point in even trying to argue. The Democrat party represents none of what you described above.

Their platform of pathological propagandizing (lying)
censorship (positions unable to withstand scrutiny)
abortion (murder)
gun control (leaving law abiding peaceful citizens vulnerable to government overreach and violent crime)
mass importation of third world people through manipulation of the asylum system (a transparent and amoral attempt to dilute the voting power of their political opposition)
destroying the best healthcare system in the world for poor quality rationed care
raising taxes so they can launder even more taxpayer dollars back into Democrat and personal coffers
Stealing from hardworking taxpayers to buy votes from the lazy and then calling that action "compassionate".
I guess it's more compassionate than sucking the brains out of a baby or severing it's spinal cord with scissors while it's still alive, but **** bag Democrats and liberals will call that compassionate too. Just horrible people through and through!
Etc
Etc
Etc

There's nothing about that rancid and depraved party that aligns with Christianity

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your list is a string of talking points, not theology. none of it proves Christianity is incompatible with liberal politics.

Scripture calls us to care for the poor, welcome the stranger, heal the sick, and seek justice. that aligns far more closely with policies conservatives deride as "welfare" or "healthcare reform" than with tax cuts for the rich or militarized borders.

calling abortion "murder" is an interpretation, not Christ's teaching.

framing immigrants as dilution is the opposite of leviticus 19:34: "the foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. love them as yourself."

labeling compassion as corruption only shows how far right-wing Christianity has strayed from the Gospel. the rancid part isn't the democrats' platform, it's weaponizing Christ to sanctify cruelty.

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"Scripture calls us to care for the poor, welcome the stranger, heal the sick, and seek justice. that aligns far more closely with policies conservatives deride as "welfare" or "healthcare reform" than with tax cuts for the rich or militarized borders." - Correct; this is the job of the church. Nowhere in Scripture calls for this to be the job of the government

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Hard for the church to welcome the stranger when members of the church vote them out

So now we have Democrats on here justifying open borders in the name of Christ. Straight out of anti-Christ prophecy.

Democrats are truly a cancer.

Just like an npr host

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Teslag said:

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Talarico isn't a charlatan, he is a pure heretic.

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Y'all are wild.

He's a well spoken candidate and I see him doing well. Will that be enough in Texas? We'll see.

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"Collin Allred speaks so well"

"Beto speaks so well" (x2)

Was it enough? We saw.

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William Larue Weller said:

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Old McDonald said:

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aggieforester05 said:

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Old McDonald said:

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aggieforester05 said:

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Old McDonald said:

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talarico unsettles the christian right because he embodies a version of christianity they cannot control. his faith is not angry or punitive, it is compassionate and rooted in the gospel's command to love the least of these. that directly threatens the republican project of monopolizing and wielding religion as a weapon of resentment.

their cultural monopoly on "real christianity" is cracking, and the louder they squeal about talarico, the clearer it becomes that people are hungry for an alternative

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Holy **** this is delusional and ignorant. You clearly have a very poor grasp on the thought processes of conservatives or you're just making **** up to make yourself feel better about supporting a party of pure evil. You should probably seek counseling.

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your anger doesn't erase the truth. talarico shows that Christianity isn't owned by the right. when he preaches compassion, justice, and humility, it resonates because it is scriptural.

the fact many here are erupting in fury proves their fear of losing monopoly over Christ's name. if your argument is only to shout that it's "delusional," you've already conceded you can't disprove it.

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No it's to point out that your narrative was so detached from reality that there's no point in even trying to argue. The Democrat party represents none of what you described above.

Their platform of pathological propagandizing (lying)
censorship (positions unable to withstand scrutiny)
abortion (murder)
gun control (leaving law abiding peaceful citizens vulnerable to government overreach and violent crime)
mass importation of third world people through manipulation of the asylum system (a transparent and amoral attempt to dilute the voting power of their political opposition)
destroying the best healthcare system in the world for poor quality rationed care
raising taxes so they can launder even more taxpayer dollars back into Democrat and personal coffers
Stealing from hardworking taxpayers to buy votes from the lazy and then calling that action "compassionate".
I guess it's more compassionate than sucking the brains out of a baby or severing it's spinal cord with scissors while it's still alive, but **** bag Democrats and liberals will call that compassionate too. Just horrible people through and through!
Etc
Etc
Etc

There's nothing about that rancid and depraved party that aligns with Christianity

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your list is a string of talking points, not theology. none of it proves Christianity is incompatible with liberal politics.

Scripture calls us to care for the poor, welcome the stranger, heal the sick, and seek justice. that aligns far more closely with policies conservatives deride as "welfare" or "healthcare reform" than with tax cuts for the rich or militarized borders.

calling abortion "murder" is an interpretation, not Christ's teaching.

framing immigrants as dilution is the opposite of leviticus 19:34: "the foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. love them as yourself."

labeling compassion as corruption only shows how far right-wing Christianity has strayed from the Gospel. the rancid part isn't the democrats' platform, it's weaponizing Christ to sanctify cruelty.

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"Scripture calls us to care for the poor, welcome the stranger, heal the sick, and seek justice. that aligns far more closely with policies conservatives deride as "welfare" or "healthcare reform" than with tax cuts for the rich or militarized borders." - Correct; this is the job of the church. Nowhere in Scripture calls for this to be the job of the government

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Hard for the church to welcome the stranger when members of the church vote them out

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We can welcome the ones who are here legally, obeying the rule of law, as Jesus preached.

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Teslag said:

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Talarico isn't a charlatan, he is a pure heretic.

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Y'all are wild.

He's a well spoken candidate and I see him doing well. Will that be enough in Texas? We'll see.

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Neither has anything to do with Christianity.

Well spoken doesn't mean Christian. We are talking about his interpretation of the Bible.

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Leftists: hate god, religion. Call religious people fascists, extremists all the time. party of degeneracy, debauchery, and weird kink


also leftists: really excited to have a candidate that is a "man of the cloth"

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That should tell you all you need to know.
His interpretation of the Bible matches the talking points of the Democrat Party. He would get destroyed by anyone with a decent knowledge of the Bible.

Teslag said:

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ETFan said:

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Teslag said:

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Talarico isn't a charlatan, he is a pure heretic.

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Y'all are wild.

He's a well spoken candidate and I see him doing well. Will that be enough in Texas? We'll see.

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"Collin Allred speaks so well"

"Beto speaks so well" (x2)

Was it enough? We saw.

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Kamala speaks so well

Biden is sharp as a tack.

Saxsoon said:

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William Larue Weller said:

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Old McDonald said:

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aggieforester05 said:

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Old McDonald said:

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aggieforester05 said:

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Old McDonald said:

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talarico unsettles the christian right because he embodies a version of christianity they cannot control. his faith is not angry or punitive, it is compassionate and rooted in the gospel's command to love the least of these. that directly threatens the republican project of monopolizing and wielding religion as a weapon of resentment.

their cultural monopoly on "real christianity" is cracking, and the louder they squeal about talarico, the clearer it becomes that people are hungry for an alternative

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Holy **** this is delusional and ignorant. You clearly have a very poor grasp on the thought processes of conservatives or you're just making **** up to make yourself feel better about supporting a party of pure evil. You should probably seek counseling.

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your anger doesn't erase the truth. talarico shows that Christianity isn't owned by the right. when he preaches compassion, justice, and humility, it resonates because it is scriptural.

the fact many here are erupting in fury proves their fear of losing monopoly over Christ's name. if your argument is only to shout that it's "delusional," you've already conceded you can't disprove it.

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No it's to point out that your narrative was so detached from reality that there's no point in even trying to argue. The Democrat party represents none of what you described above.

Their platform of pathological propagandizing (lying)
censorship (positions unable to withstand scrutiny)
abortion (murder)
gun control (leaving law abiding peaceful citizens vulnerable to government overreach and violent crime)
mass importation of third world people through manipulation of the asylum system (a transparent and amoral attempt to dilute the voting power of their political opposition)
destroying the best healthcare system in the world for poor quality rationed care
raising taxes so they can launder even more taxpayer dollars back into Democrat and personal coffers
Stealing from hardworking taxpayers to buy votes from the lazy and then calling that action "compassionate".
I guess it's more compassionate than sucking the brains out of a baby or severing it's spinal cord with scissors while it's still alive, but **** bag Democrats and liberals will call that compassionate too. Just horrible people through and through!
Etc
Etc
Etc

There's nothing about that rancid and depraved party that aligns with Christianity

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your list is a string of talking points, not theology. none of it proves Christianity is incompatible with liberal politics.

Scripture calls us to care for the poor, welcome the stranger, heal the sick, and seek justice. that aligns far more closely with policies conservatives deride as "welfare" or "healthcare reform" than with tax cuts for the rich or militarized borders.

calling abortion "murder" is an interpretation, not Christ's teaching.

framing immigrants as dilution is the opposite of leviticus 19:34: "the foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. love them as yourself."

labeling compassion as corruption only shows how far right-wing Christianity has strayed from the Gospel. the rancid part isn't the democrats' platform, it's weaponizing Christ to sanctify cruelty.

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"Scripture calls us to care for the poor, welcome the stranger, heal the sick, and seek justice. that aligns far more closely with policies conservatives deride as "welfare" or "healthcare reform" than with tax cuts for the rich or militarized borders." - Correct; this is the job of the church. Nowhere in Scripture calls for this to be the job of the government

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Hard for the church to welcome the stranger when members of the church vote them out

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Leftists pretending like they know what the bible says

Teslag said:

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Owning slaves is not a sin. Neither is being a racist and other things you find icky.

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Ok well thank you for being consistent in your beliefs.

gkaggie08 said:

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Saw his interview on Rogan awhile back. It was evident that he didn't go to seminary to learn scripture, he went to mold and massage scripture around his leftist ideology

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Yep, he's evil. Wolf in sheep's clothing. They are the wrist and will be judged the most harshly.

You CANNOT be both a voting modern democrat AND a Christian.

deddog said:

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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Serotonin said:

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Scripture is fairly explicit about sexual acts outside of marriage (fair enough), but it was also pretty explicit about slavery.

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The OT sets pragmatic guidelines around how slaves were to be treated. I don't think the Bible states that slavery is good or bad, it is just a natural human economic arrangement resulting from wars, famine, conflict, etc.

Most of human history was a world of scarcity and shortages of food, water, etc that we can't imagine today.

Had you been able to go back in time as earth's dictator and mandate 'NO SLAVERY', then the losers in wars and conquered peoples would have simply been killed and exited the gene pool. Very few of us would be here in that case.

With something like sexuality, bestiality, homosexuality etc it's completely different: clear moral stances are taken on those issues.

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This is a common objection: "Well slavery was just part of the culture of that time. God didn't really like slavery, but he was just establishing rules around slavery and leading humanity down the path of eventually abolishing it".

So my first objection to that is fairly simple. HES GOD! If he can make specific rules about not eating certain kinds of foods, and not wearing certain kinds of fabrics, and not picking up sticks on the sabbath, etc. etc. how hard is it to say "Don't own other people as property"? And as I pointed out earlier, if the best rules he could put around slavery include "you can beat them as long as they don't die" that's already problematic.

Also, the bible could not have been more clear about condoning slavery.

Leviticus 25:45-47: "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life".

I don't think it can be much more clear than that. You can buy slaves from other nations and they are your property forever.

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As you get more mature, the rules change, because you become an adult and can reason.

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This is exactly my point. The teachings of the bible evolve as people do. That's precisely the viewpoint I try to argue with people who say Democrats' views on other topics as incompatible with the teachings of the Bible when we already agree that 'rules change' (to quote you).

Rapier108 said:

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Ah yes, every Democrat's favorite communist posing as a man of the cloth.

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Those are the "religious" people they have no problem with.

Hullabaloonatic said:

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deddog said:

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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Serotonin said:

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Scripture is fairly explicit about sexual acts outside of marriage (fair enough), but it was also pretty explicit about slavery.

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The OT sets pragmatic guidelines around how slaves were to be treated. I don't think the Bible states that slavery is good or bad, it is just a natural human economic arrangement resulting from wars, famine, conflict, etc.

Most of human history was a world of scarcity and shortages of food, water, etc that we can't imagine today.

Had you been able to go back in time as earth's dictator and mandate 'NO SLAVERY', then the losers in wars and conquered peoples would have simply been killed and exited the gene pool. Very few of us would be here in that case.

With something like sexuality, bestiality, homosexuality etc it's completely different: clear moral stances are taken on those issues.

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This is a common objection: "Well slavery was just part of the culture of that time. God didn't really like slavery, but he was just establishing rules around slavery and leading humanity down the path of eventually abolishing it".

So my first objection to that is fairly simple. HES GOD! If he can make specific rules about not eating certain kinds of foods, and not wearing certain kinds of fabrics, and not picking up sticks on the sabbath, etc. etc. how hard is it to say "Don't own other people as property"? And as I pointed out earlier, if the best rules he could put around slavery include "you can beat them as long as they don't die" that's already problematic.

Also, the bible could not have been more clear about condoning slavery.

Leviticus 25:45-47: "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life".

I don't think it can be much more clear than that. You can buy slaves from other nations and they are your property forever.

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As you get more mature, the rules change, because you become an adult and can reason.

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This is exactly my point. The teachings of the bible evolve as people do. That's precisely the viewpoint I try to argue with people who say Democrats' views on other topics as incompatible with the teachings of the Bible when we already agree that 'rules change' (to quote you).

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The Bible doesn't change.
The bible is constant. Humans change, and got more mature.
The old testament helps to understand how God viewed his people (who were spiritually immature)

I disagree with all those who think Democrats views on topics are incompatible with teachings of the Bible.
But that doesn't mean homosexuality is not a sin.
It doesn't mean abortion is ok.
Anyone who claims otherwise is a false teacher.

We are all sinners. That is why we need HIS grace.

I watched a lot of committee testimony during the last legislative session. He will develop a following. I don't see him winning, but I see him out-performing the previous candidates.

Hullabaloonatic said:

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deddog said:

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Hullabaloonatic said:

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Serotonin said:

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Scripture is fairly explicit about sexual acts outside of marriage (fair enough), but it was also pretty explicit about slavery.

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The OT sets pragmatic guidelines around how slaves were to be treated. I don't think the Bible states that slavery is good or bad, it is just a natural human economic arrangement resulting from wars, famine, conflict, etc.

Most of human history was a world of scarcity and shortages of food, water, etc that we can't imagine today.

Had you been able to go back in time as earth's dictator and mandate 'NO SLAVERY', then the losers in wars and conquered peoples would have simply been killed and exited the gene pool. Very few of us would be here in that case.

With something like sexuality, bestiality, homosexuality etc it's completely different: clear moral stances are taken on those issues.

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This is a common objection: "Well slavery was just part of the culture of that time. God didn't really like slavery, but he was just establishing rules around slavery and leading humanity down the path of eventually abolishing it".

So my first objection to that is fairly simple. HES GOD! If he can make specific rules about not eating certain kinds of foods, and not wearing certain kinds of fabrics, and not picking up sticks on the sabbath, etc. etc. how hard is it to say "Don't own other people as property"? And as I pointed out earlier, if the best rules he could put around slavery include "you can beat them as long as they don't die" that's already problematic.

Also, the bible could not have been more clear about condoning slavery.

Leviticus 25:45-47: "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life".

I don't think it can be much more clear than that. You can buy slaves from other nations and they are your property forever.

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As you get more mature, the rules change, because you become an adult and can reason.

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This is exactly my point. The teachings of the bible evolve as people do. That's precisely the viewpoint I try to argue with people who say Democrats' views on other topics as incompatible with the teachings of the Bible when we already agree that 'rules change' (to quote you).

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First of all, even if the rules change (which they don't), it sure isn't you, or me, or a group of politicians who get to change them. God's rules don't get to be changed by men.

Second, it doesn't take Christianity to point out how destructive leftism is. Basic economics education and generations of data can do that on their own separately.

Your ideas about society keep people in poverty, destroy futures, create racism and hold back the human race all while making society morally bankrupt.

Hebrews 13: 8

James 1: 17

Biblically speaking, truth is fixed; interpretation and obedience are where humans change.

Romans 12:2- do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind.

Bibically, moral evolution (recasting sin as righteousness or vice versa) contradicts the idea of a holy, unchanging God.

Teslag said:

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"The bible does not specifically prohibit abortion"

- James Talarico, a "pastor"


Ya GTFO with that *****

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The next day this wolf cares specifically what God's word actually says will be the first day this wolf cares specifically what God says.

It should be fun watching this boards justify how serial adulterers and extremely greedy, narcissistic Donald Trump and Ken Paxton are better Christians than Talarico, an actual pastor.

1876er said:

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It should be fun watching this boards justify how serial adulterers and extremely greedy, narcissistic Donald Trump and Ken Paxton are better Christians than Talarico, an actual pastor.

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For starters, two of those don't support the murder of millions of human beings.

Wesley Hunt
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I am pretty much over politicians who the first thing they mention is their military services.

Been in the house for 2.5 yrs and already looking to move up? Plus he lost his first race then scrambled to find another district to run-in.

Screams grifter to me.

Okay. I see how that is relevant talarico