After Steve Bannon's emails in the Epstein files about trying to rehabilitate Epstein's image, Bannon should go quietly into the night.

Or…now stay with me here…Democrat presidents should honor the laws of our country, too. These problems have been caused by allowing millions of illegals to enter the country intentionally. There are consequences.

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I know this is like throwing pearls before swine, but here ya go OP:



Elections Clause in Article I, Section 4, Clause 1:

"The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of choosing Senators."

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Hate to point this out to everyone that the above clause is absolutely correct. And neither the President nor Steve Bannon is a member of Congress… so it's a big nothing burger. Congress will not inact such a law, and any kind of EO by President Trump will be unconstitutional.
Not that hard to follow.

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Ensuring minorities don't show up to polls under threat of being detained with no evidence.

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LOL, what?

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ICE has the ability to detain people they perceive as being potentially not from this country without warrant . That means even people with valid ID that show up to polls that aren't white can be detained which is voter intimidation

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You better stay home so the Haitians don't eat your Cats.

FarmerFran - so you want to protect criminals. Anyone who crosses our borders illegally are criminals.

oldmcdonald - you make your leader, Putin, proud because of you wanting criminals to vote to destroy our Country and Constitution.

Oh no! I boarded a flight full of brown people, in a country full of brown people, with brown people LEOs monitoring the entrance to the airport, in security, and even again at the gate…. And many had ak47s.

I was sooooo intimidated that i started looking for brown people to help me bc being a minority… I was helpless.


And yes I really am sitting on a flight with brown people, operated by a country of brown people, full of armed brown people LEOs. And yes I really am not brown. And no I wasn't intimidated, even if unlike in the US the LEOs here are paramilitary thugs. I love where I am.

This total BS lie by the left is just so stupid and bigoted. They should be shamed ruthlessly.

They are either fools, liars, paid shills or in some cases all of the above.

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Steve Bannon actively stating that ICE agents will be at polling places in order for people to not be able to "steal elections". Complete and utter voter intimidation. Ensuring minorities don't show up to polls under threat of being detained with no evidence.

https://www.newsweek.com/steve-bannon-proposes-using-ice-in-elections-11462376

This administration is a direct threat to our democracy

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I'm so tired of this performative nonsense. We all know you don't believe that ****, and you know exactly why they are doing it, we also know why you're so concerned about minorities. Stop it. You're not going to be able to steal elections with fake votes anymore, cope, cry or seeth, but quit asking us to pretend you don't know the truth.

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I absolutely believe it. If an administration is willing to label a guy they just shot to death in the street after violating his rights a domestic terrorist then I absolutely believe this. Yall act like Steve Bannon even if not in the administration isn't intrinsically tied to Trump.

This is only enhanced by Trump and the DOJ demanding voter rolls from Minnesota to have ICE leave and them raiding Fulton County Georgias voter bureau. Then on top of that you have Trump calling for nationalizing elections.

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FarmerFran - so you want to protect criminals. Anyone who crosses our borders illegally are criminals.

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It's a civil violation first off, not criminal. I want immigration reform that allows for immigrants that are law abiding citizens to have a much more expedient path to citizenship so that they can live and work in this country without being in violation of the law of

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Ensuring minorities don't show up to polls under threat of being detained with no evidence.

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LOL, what?

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ICE has the ability to detain people they perceive as being potentially not from this country without warrant . That means even people with valid ID that show up to polls that aren't white can be detained which is voter intimidation

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You better stay home so the Haitians don't eat your Cats.

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I have no concerns for being around any race. I grew up and have lived all over the world. What I care about is people's rights being infringed

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Logos Stick said:

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I know this is like throwing pearls before swine, but here ya go OP:



Elections Clause in Article I, Section 4, Clause 1:

"The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of choosing Senators."

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Hate to point this out to everyone that the above clause is absolutely correct. And neither the President nor Steve Bannon is a member of Congress… so it's a big nothing burger. Congress will not inact such a law, and any kind of EO by President Trump will be unconstitutional.
Not that hard to follow.

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Yes because Republican congress has shown any kind of spine since the start of this administration…wank

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How many of the 170 are still detained?

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None I imagine but the point is they were in the first place which is what we are discussing here

Intimidating? Nah, probably been needed for a while. Our elections are a joke.

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Intimidating? Nah, probably been needed for a while. Our elections are a joke.

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Only when you buddy Donny loses right?

Pls expand and clarify the source of intimidation.

What rights did they violate? He was where he shouldn't have been, impeding law enforcement, committing a felony. He ****ed around. He found out.

He won't be violently interfering with law enforcement ever again.

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It's a civil violation first off, not criminal. I want immigration reform that allows for immigrants that are law abiding citizens to have a much more expedient path to citizenship so that they can live and work in this country without being in violation of the law of

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Uh, what?

Good for you. Change the laws. Not that democrats would follow any laws they don't like.

Every illegal walking our streets deserves to be continuously intimidated. 24/7.

As of this morning, 60 people (including socks) starred the OP. Delusion is juicy. Stop back by late next November and give us an update.

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How many of the 170 are still detained?

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None I imagine but the point is they were in the first place which is what we are discussing here

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Okay, so they were temporarily held until their identity could be determined. Aka, due process.

Btw- they rounded up and DEPORTED 675,000. Taking that as the denominator (which is conservative) it's 0.0252%. That's a 99.975% success rate. And you think those numbers support your position?

This country is full of the most ignorant, emotional, and irrational people.

With the unprecedented ease of access to the most knowledge in human history we choose ignorance and intellectual dishonesty because of political ideology and tribalism.

We've abandoned governance to harvest fury for votes and fundraising. Nothing gets done and everyone is complicit. Some are more complicit than others as it is by design… comrade.

In a society of useful idiots try not to be one.

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How many of the 170 are still detained?

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None I imagine but the point is they were in the first place which is what we are discussing here

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How many of those were in the company of illegals that ICE was looking to apprehend?

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FarmerFran - so you want to protect criminals. Anyone who crosses our borders illegally are criminals.

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It's a civil violation first off, not criminal. I want immigration reform that allows for immigrants that are law abiding citizens to have a much more expedient path to citizenship so that they can live and work in this country without being in violation of the law of

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This is an overused liberal talking point. It depends on the circumstances. It's not always civil, certainly not if you snuck across the border or if you've been previously deported.

Let em use that point. Tell them that as such it then remains in the administrative courts setup to process these civil violations, and that rests entirely within the Article II powers.

Option A: civil violation handled by Article II courts; or

Option B: criminal violation and this subject to immediate deportation and forbidden to ever reenter.

Ask the libs which they want.

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FarmerFran - so you want to protect criminals. Anyone who crosses our borders illegally are criminals.

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It's a civil violation first off, not criminal. I want immigration reform that allows for immigrants that are law abiding citizens to have a much more expedient path to citizenship so that they can live and work in this country without being in violation of the law of

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Nope. Asylum seekers or over-staying a visa would be civil, but the vast majority do not fit into those buckets. At best it is a criminal misdemeanor, but when they are repeat violators it is a felony. When your dementia riddled puppet opened the front and back door to any and all, with nary a concern as to who was coming in, your second statement went right out the window.

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I have no concerns for being around any race. I grew up and have lived all over the world. What I care about is people's rights being infringed

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Call, I'm All-In.

I've got Puerto Rico, California (The O.C. and Los Angeles, plus 300+ nights at the Santa Clara Marriott), Alaska, Eastern Province, Saudi Arabia, Louisiana, Kentucky, Colorado, and New South Wales, Australia.

Plus, I assume we've both got Texas and The USA on the board.

Please turn over your "I've lived all over the world" cards.

I think anyone who has truly grown up and lived all over the world, they would not come home and be critical of our processes for voting except to say we are a laughing stock around the world for how to conduct safe, secure elections.

Since you have, care to share more of your experiences? I imagine you've witnessed lots of foreign elections from the front row.

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Ensuring minorities don't show up to polls under threat of being detained with no evidence.

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LOL, what?

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ICE has the ability to detain people they perceive as being potentially not from this country without warrant . That means even people with valid ID that show up to polls that aren't white can be detained which is voter intimidation

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You better stay home so the Haitians don't eat your Cats.

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I have no concerns for being around any race. I grew up and have lived all over the world. What I care about is people's rights being infringed

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But you are okay with trolling and lying in your OP. Steve Bannon is not part of the administration.

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Ensuring minorities don't show up to polls under threat of being detained with no evidence.

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LOL, what?

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ICE has the ability to detain people they perceive as being potentially not from this country without warrant . That means even people with valid ID that show up to polls that aren't white can be detained which is voter intimidation

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You better stay home so the Haitians don't eat your Cats.

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I have no concerns for being around any race. I grew up and have lived all over the world. What I care about is people's rights being infringed

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But you are okay with trolling and lying in your OP. Steve Bannon is not part of the administration.

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Where did I say he was? I made no claim that he was part of the administration but he is intrinsically connected to Trump. What do you have to say about Trump calling for nationalized elections?

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I have no concerns for being around any race. I grew up and have lived all over the world. What I care about is people's rights being infringed

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Call, I'm All-In.

I've got Puerto Rico, California (The O.C. and Los Angeles, plus 300+ nights at the Santa Clara Marriott), Alaska, Eastern Province, Saudi Arabia, Louisiana, Kentucky, Colorado, and New South Wales, Australia.

Plus, I assume we've both got Texas and The USA on the board.

Please turn over your "I've lived all over the world" cards.

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Norway, Egypt, Vietnam ,Scotland, England

And since you claim your worldliness based on living in multiple states: Texas, California, South Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama.

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FarmerFran - so you want to protect criminals. Anyone who crosses our borders illegally are criminals.

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It's a civil violation first off, not criminal. I want immigration reform that allows for immigrants that are law abiding citizens to have a much more expedient path to citizenship so that they can live and work in this country without being in violation of the law of

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Nope. Asylum seekers or over-staying a visa would be civil, but the vast majority do not fit into those buckets. At best it is a criminal misdemeanor, but when they are repeat violators it is a felony. When your dementia riddled puppet opened the front and back door to any and all, with nary a concern as to who was coming in, your second statement went right out the window.

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And what percentage of those being deported are qualifying for those felonies?

That's already been covered and clarified.

Why do you want illegals to be able to vote? What about other people who are otherwise ineligible to vote voting in elections.

If you are cool with no ID and not voter roll maintenance, are you cool with MAGA airlines flying folks to these no ID bastions of liberty and letting the voice be heard through voting in those elections?

I dont think you have considered your position well.