********* Official Cowboys Off-Season Thread 2026 *********

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jr15aggie said:

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Is Bailey the next Micah Parsons?

You need MANY dudes right now.


I don't think we need as many as some think (I like our free agent additions). I really like our chances of finding a good contributing player with our 3rd & 4th round picks, but let's not pretend that it was going to be an immediate starter.

I'm 50/50 on trading. Sitting still can land you CD Lamb sometimes, but not usually. Bailey is an immediate starter with super star potential. I hate giving away a 3rd rounder... but if it's the difference between taking Bailey at #3 vs. Mesidor at #12 it's not even a hard debate for me.


I'd point to the Raven over the years as the team that just sits still and lands a stud almost every year. Every single year someone falls to them.

The Eagles have done that a bit as well.
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Woods Ag said:

jr15aggie said:

TyHolden said:

Is Bailey the next Micah Parsons?

You need MANY dudes right now.


I don't think we need as many as some think (I like our free agent additions). I really like our chances of finding a good contributing player with our 3rd & 4th round picks, but let's not pretend that it was going to be an immediate starter.

I'm 50/50 on trading. Sitting still can land you CD Lamb sometimes, but not usually. Bailey is an immediate starter with super star potential. I hate giving away a 3rd rounder... but if it's the difference between taking Bailey at #3 vs. Mesidor at #12 it's not even a hard debate for me.


I'd point to the Raven over the years as the team that just sits still and lands a stud almost every year. Every single year someone falls to them.

The Eagles have done that a bit as well.

yep. build some depth.
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Yeah, but there's a huge perspective difference when you are doing that in the mid 20's (which is where Balt & Philly have pretty consistently drafted in recent years).

Anybody can sit there at #25 in this draft and take Thieneman, Terrell, etc. and be the big winner. If we are stuck/out of options and take the same player at #12 it's going to be a big fail!
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FYI, guys like Broadus haven't really changed their tune on McCoy after his pro day... as of right now it appears he is still a guy that Dallas will not draft.

That's not surprising to me. I've felt all along it wasn't so much his health, but the fact that he's over a year removed from his last game after only playing 2 college seasons. They just don't have any desire to wait on / develop a guy they just took 12 overall. I expect the same attitude about any selection they make between pick #12 - #112.
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jr15aggie said:

Yeah, but there's a huge perspective difference when you are doing that in the mid 20's (which is where Balt & Philly have pretty consistently drafted in recent years).

Anybody can sit there at #25 in this draft and take Thieneman, Terrell, etc. and be the big winner. If we are stuck/out of options and take the same player at #12 it's going to be a big fail!


Not anybody… we drafted Taco Charlton, and Mazi Smith.. as I was screaming at the TV to draft TJ Watt. It was so obvious
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Believe me, I'm with you on that. Teams F up picks in the 20's all the time. I'm just saying that nobody is a hero for drafting one of the top 2nd Round graded players at #12.... but you are considered good at your job if you do it in the 20's.
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So it looks like the league is going to turn a blind eye to Rashee Rice. Yet another example of how ridiculous the Zeke suspension was.

Please don't tell me there isn't any proof of anti Cowboys bias in the NFL.
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He's also nowhere near the player Zeke was when he started doing dumb *****
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What happened now?
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thegoodolag15 said:

What happened now?


Rashee Rice appears to be a woman abuser and there is pretty good evidence of it.

I'm not really concerned about him though and it's possible he's completely innocent. But there is stuff that really doesn't look good and it's happened while he was a pro. The NFL is doing nothing vs Zeke who got accused of BS back in college and the NFL felt it was their duty to teach Jerry, I mean Zeke, a lesson.
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Lots of chatter the cowboys interested in trading up for David Bailey

Chatter surrounds Arizona at #3
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Bailey is not nearly enough of a sure thing to warrant the kind of draft capital it would take to trade up to 3.
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Turns out the charges were dropped against Rice because his girlfriend admitted to lying because he broke off their relationship.

If the Chiefs take Tate or Lemon at 9, Rice is toast.

Either way, he's a punk.
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Yeah, Zeke never faced charges either. My frustration has nothing to do with Rice, it's the way the NFL will make an example of the Cowboys and it's players any time it wants.

But that's enough, no more derailing the thread, thanks for letting me vent!
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Infection_Ag11 said:

Bailey is not nearly enough of a sure thing to warrant the kind of draft capital it would take to trade up to 3.


I definitely agree based on the typical cost. The reported cost of a 3rd rounder is absurd... there would be teams lining up to beat that offer if #3 was for sale that cheap.
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jr15aggie said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

Bailey is not nearly enough of a sure thing to warrant the kind of draft capital it would take to trade up to 3.


I definitely agree based on the typical cost. The reported cost of a 3rd rounder is absurd... there would be teams lining up to beat that offer if #3 was for sale that cheap.


We could move up to 9 for that I bet. Three would require both first rounders
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McShay had another segment on McCoy.

Cleared to practice late in the season. Practiced but elected not to play. Business decision as season was going south.
Agent is a young Rosenhaus and was being told he's the 1-2 CB in the draft and a sure top 15 pick.
Adviced McCoy to build up slowly rather and focus on pro day rather than faster and do the senior bowl or combine.
Went out and tested extremely well.
Good dude. Loved by his teammates

Some front offices believe he's #1 CB.
Then McShay goes on a rant of how great he is as a press man, lockdown corner.

He's not making it past 12 is what he said earlier in the podcast.


Steve's counter is knowing his agent, in 4 years it could be a pain in the ass.

Steve says Delane is head and shoulders above McCoy. McShay objects - says Delane is special when the ball is in the airs, but the best sticky cover man is McCoy
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I'm starting to agree with Broadus on McCoy... I hope he's off the board before the Cowboys pick.

He's still under the impression the Cowboys won't draft him, and if he's there at #12, we pass, and he ends up being an all pro... Cowboy fans will have visions of Randy Moss again.
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Peter Schrager mocked Downs and Mesidor to the Cowboys. He's nailed our first round picks for the past two years.
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Vince Blake said:

Peter Schrager mocked Downs and Mesidor to the Cowboys. He's nailed our first round picks for the past two years.


please baby jesus in your golden diapers

Run to the podium before jerruh messes it up
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Getting Downs at 12 would be a dream come true! I'm lower on Mesidor than some, but at 20, I think the value is there.
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cman1494 said:

Getting Downs at 12 would be a dream come true! I'm lower on Mesidor than some, but at 20, I think the value is there.


Downs make a ton of sense for Dallas and given the fact that he plays S, he's the most likely player to fall to us.

And I'm not super high on Mesidor either. We are talking about a guy that should be signing his 2nd NFL contract... instead he just got through playing with the 18-20 year old college kids.

I think he's a good player, but when push came to shove, teams focused on Bain, not him. It's too high for pick #20.
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I agree on Mesidor. Don't hate it for the "dak window" argument of he's more developed and ready to step in now and contribute. I wouldn't hate CJ Allen there.

Honestly not many 'worth' the 20 pick, so trade back is ideal to pick something up in the 30/40/50 range but is what it is.
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I think everyone in this draft past pick 15-20 might like to trade back, so I don't know how much movement we're going to see. Either going to get deals flying around like crazy or everyone is just going to suck it up and take best available where they are at.
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I think there is a lot of value at picks 15-25 if you are needing O-line and WR/TE. I could see us trading back with somebody like Buffalo looking to move up and grab a WR.

Getting back to the late 1st / early 2nd will put us in the sweet spot for the defenders that we need. Very likely we can find a CB/LB/S that you feel good about starting for Dallas day 1.
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jr15aggie said:

I think there is a lot of value at picks 15-25 if you are needing O-line and WR/TE. I could see us trading back with somebody like Buffalo looking to move up and grab a WR.

Getting back to the late 1st / early 2nd will put us in the sweet spot for the defenders that we need. Very likely we can find a CB/LB/S that you feel good about starting for Dallas day 1.

this is our dance partner

someone looking for OT, WR, possibly QB b/c they are over drafted every year.

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Yes but this draft is so deep with offensive lineman and wide receivers in particular; why not just wait 10 picks till you are on the clock and take one? And none of those guys at the range are truly wow factor players. Heck I would think most guys after picks 12-15 have borderline second round grades on them anyone for this draft. It's a bunch of solid dudes more or less.
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My main issue with Mesidor is that, if you take him in the first round, he'll be 30 by the time his first contract is up. A guy that old has to be immediately ready to become a superstar if you take him in the first round.

For reference, some first round picks sign their SECOND contract before they are the age he will be on draft day. He'll be older than some 5 year vets as a rookie.
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The draft age stuff is a serious issue in a sport where most dudes careers are over by 30 if they're lucky. Obviously it won't be around forever as the Covid year guys are almost completely out of college football.

We've seen it with Lindeborg and Michigan during March madness as well. Legit player but the age is a massive problem when drafting a guy high in a draft.
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Yeah, the age things makes for a weird eval with Mesidor.

I get that all of these Div I football players are grown ass men compared to regular college students ... but it's still hard not to imagine the Billy Madison dodge ball scene with this guy.

He's pretty much at his peak right now and he hasn't played a single NFL snap. He's one of many odd/risky picks in this years top 50. Risky does not appear to be what this team is interested in right now.
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I think Zac Hiller is McCoys agent.
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Woods Ag said:

I think Zac Hiller is McCoys agent.


I heard something the other day that suggests teams don't feel like McCoy is / will be ready and he's going to fall into the 2nd round.
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Why would he not be ready? That will be a whole 18-19 months post ACL. What are their reasons?
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jr15aggie said:

Woods Ag said:

I think Zac Hiller is McCoys agent.


I heard something the other day that suggests teams don't feel like McCoy is / will be ready and he's going to fall into the 2nd round.


That would be insane. There's talk that he may go to the Giants at five because they need a corner in the defense they're gonna run.

He's the best man cover corner in the draft hands-down.

I was looking at our DC's scheme and what he values in a cornerback and I've changed my mind and believe that either Delane or Caleb Downs is probably the better fit for this DC but any team that values a man press cover corner is probably going with McCoy at the very top of the draft
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There's a lot right now that suggesting that Downs is gonna fall if he doesn't go to the Giants at five and he may fall right into the Cowboys lap with both corners gone before 12

Even there he would've gone higher than Hamilton and Derwin James in their drafts
 
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