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Concealed carry choice - part deux

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GasPasser97
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Striker fired or 1911/2011?

Why?

(Want to start CC my 43X or G19, but a 2011 has me intrigued)

Lonestar-aught-six
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I feel like the striker/1911 are very similar and most of what I own other than revolvers. All of my pistols I try to have a similar to single action triggers because it's what I prefer and kind of the same. DA/SA I don't care for and don't want something different from gun to gun. Same thing with single and two stage triggers.
JSKolache
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2011 is a fun shooter, but it's moving in opposite direction of concealability. Concealment = thin and light weight.
Naveronski
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Buy one of each. Carry each for a month. Shoot each. Sell the one you don't like.

https://texags.com/forums/34/topics/2990714
Eliminatus
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If you are new to CC and already have the G19, just start there first. Get used to that first. 2011's are in the upper range of difficulty concealing and getting comfortableness. For most people generally. Figure out what works and what doesn't. Then the rabbit hole truly begins.

And the striker fired range is VAST. Quite the selection there…
alvtimes
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used to swap out G19 and G22…. added a few yrs on my calendar and made a switch to G26.
Smeghead4761
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I go with striker fired now (1st Gen S&W M&P9 or Shield, depending on the season.) I carried a Sig P229 for a long time, back when .40 S&W was all the rage.

If I was going to CC a hammer gun now, I'd probably go with a CZ-75. Call me a gun hipster.
Bradley.Kohr.II
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Do you have/plan to have children in the near future?

Personally, I like guns which are designed to inhibit operation by a small child.

(P7s are my favorite.).

Otherwise, it's more about which holsters/accessories work for it.

(I have poor eye sight, so I like laser sights as I can't really use regular ones without glasses.). Others like slide ride optics.

I seem to bump mag release buttons all the time, so I prefer paddle releases, Euro releases and revolvers.

I like tru glo fiber optic/tritium sights.

Blanchi makes a nice, concealable retention holster, etc etc etc.

SIRT pistols are good for training, etc.

(TMK, no gun meets all of my preferences.)
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IMO, and from what I have seen in classes, a quality striker-fired gun is going to be generally more reliable and impervious to conditions (e.g. still works reliably when dirty or under-lubricated) than a 2011, especially if you are looking for a budget 2011.

Note the Sig 320 issues have a lot of firearms industry people (including trainers) taking a closer look at the fully-tensioned striker guns (like the 320) vs Glocks where the striker is not fully tensioned, meaning with a Glock the trigger press is required to put pull spring tension on the striker. The fully tensioned strikers have "nicer triggers" because you aren't compressing the striker spring when pressing the trigger, but there are downsides (such as a mechanical failure of the sear possibly causing the gun to fire).

If you have large hands, double stack Glock like the G19 is where I'd start... if you have medium to small hands (be honest with yourself, a gun that is too big for your hands will be a constant frustrating struggle) then I'd recommend a G48.

I have medium size hands and a G48 (which is my EDC) fits my hands great and is very concealable. I'd also have no issues with a P365 variant, they seem to work very reliably and thankfully have a different internal design than the 320 grenades.
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GasPasser97 said:

Striker fired or 1911/2011?

Why?

(Want to start CC my 43X or G19, but a 2011 has me intrigued)




2011s are great competition guns .
But for concealed carry they can be problematic with ultra light and short triggers and don't have the best drop safety performance.
GasPasser97
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malenurse
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alvtimes said:

used to swap out G19 and G22…. added a few yrs on my calendar and made a switch to G26.

I feel your pain
The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But, it's still on the list.
agsalaska
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Switch between an Sig p239 and a j-frame .38.

For

And I just got bit by a possum.
Cibalo
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Have toy considered buying a blue gun (training gun) to practice carry before dropping some lot of money on an actual pistol?
https://www.blueguns.com/
Juan Lee Pettimore
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I have pretty much every type of 1911, 2011, compact, sub compact, striker fired, DA/SA you can buy, and have tried to carry most of them and what I find is that I consistently go back to my Sig P365 X-Macro time and time again. For whatever that's worth.
AvsB
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Warm weather is Bodyguard 2.0 or Shield 2.0
Cold weather is Shield 2.0 or M&P 2.0 compact
So striker fired all the way. Also red dot all things!

Bodyguard 2.0 with Monsoon Tactical RMSC plate and Osight SE enclosed optic!


RIP ATMHockey
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The 2 handguns I own and carry: Sig P365XL w/Wilson grip module and holosun 507k, Staccato P w/magwell, threaded barrel, and holosun 507 comp. Both are carried in Tenicor Certum holsters set up for appendix carry.

To me, this is more about overall size and quirks of the gun than anything specific to CC. Yes, a non series 80 2011 will probably go off if you drop it perfectly muzzle down from shoulder height onto a hard surface. I don't really care about that. I do care about weight, size as it relates to comfort and concealability, and shootability.

2011s are going to have more things that stick out and poke you compared to many striker pistols (beaver tail on grip safety, thumb safety, hammer). They CAN be less intuitive to use for people who have inconsistent fundamentals. I've handed my Staccato to many novice shooters at the range only to watch them forget to disengage the thumb safety, then have a grip that doesn't depress the grip safety, and then have their thumb UNDER the thumb safety as they shoot.

From a performance standpoint, I like to divide people into 1) is pretty bad at shooting with any gun out there 2) mediocre to good with most anything 3) good with anything. Group 2 will see the most lift out of a 2011 (still pretty small for anyone competent with pistol shooting), but would be better off spending more time with proper dry and live fire practice using a timer. I would put myself in group 2 and kind of regret buying the Staccato even though it's a great pistol.

I'd strongly encourage you to stick with what you have, carry for a year or so, then decide what you want to change. Swapping gun platforms at the same time you're coming into CC is a recipe for a lot of wasted money on holsters and other accessories.
GasPasser97
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Great advice!

Holoson, tenicor, hogue grip, and belt are en route as we speak!
Vegas-aggie
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Browning hi power since the late '70s. But never concealed, just in my back pocket. Matte finish / fixed sights since the early 90s. First shot is single action, so no oopses.
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