I know they are still doing some private tournaments and such. I watched a YouTuber fish it a few months ago and there was a pretty large group of trucks/trailers at the ramp.
Gibbons Creek???
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I'd love to get out there as well
www.elitellp.net/
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New SpaceX facility could be coming to an area 20 miles away from Aggieland
Commissioners Court will take public comment on June 3 on an incentive agreement for a proposed project at the Gibbons Creek Reservoir
ANDERSON, Texas (KBTX) - Grimes County leaders are set to weigh a major economic development proposal involving Space Exploration Technologies Corp, known as SpaceX.
The Grimes County Commissioners Court is scheduled to hold a public hearing at 9 a.m. June 3, 2026, at the Grimes County Justice & Business Center, 270 FM 149 W. in Anderson, to consider approval of a property tax abatement agreement.
According to the county's public notice, the proposed agreement involves SpaceX and a designated reinvestment zone known as "SpaceX Reinvestment Zone No. 1 - 2026-001," described as being located at the Gibbons Creek Reservoir and surrounding areas.
The reservoir is located off Highway 30 in a rural area of Grimes County, approximately 20 miles east of Bryan-College Station.
The notice states SpaceX is proposing construction of a multi-phase, next-generation, vertically integrated semiconductor manufacturing and advanced computing fabrication facility a project the notice calls a "transformative investment" aimed at expanding domestic semiconductor manufacturing capacity.
The county's notice estimates $55 billion in capital investment for initial phases, and up to $119 billion total if additional phases are built.
Wow.
That is great for business and terrible for home prices, traffic, & water consumption. Plus...no more chance of fishing it again.
I'm conflicted.
That is great for business and terrible for home prices, traffic, & water consumption. Plus...no more chance of fishing it again.
I'm conflicted.
Did they ever start selling lots for the Lakes of Gibbons development, or did that get scrapped?
tu ag said:
Wow.
That is great for business and terrible for home prices, traffic, & water consumption. Plus...no more chance of fishing it again.
I'm conflicted.
I'm not conflicted at all... I think it sucks
Yup.
Austin hates Elon. We need to embrace him as an Ag. I don't care about the politics. Launching rockets before and after games...
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fcag said:
Did they ever start selling lots for the Lakes of Gibbons development, or did that get scrapped?
That got scrapped before TPWD's new state park plans fell thru. The State couldn't get out of their own way.
the pit man said:tu ag said:
Wow.
That is great for business and terrible for home prices, traffic, & water consumption. Plus...no more chance of fishing it again.
I'm conflicted.
I'm not conflicted at all... I think it sucks
There's no guarantee that a failure to vote in a tax abatement by Grimes County is going to stop anything- it just becomes more likely that a new Spacex "Terafab" semiconductor plant gets built if it does.
So we wait and watch, and plan. If Austin could, they would rewind the clock and do things differently than they did at the headwaters of their tech renaissance. They can't. We're lucky because we can look at the mistakes they made and avoid them.
In the annals of a region's history, the argument isn't really about pro-growth or anti-growth. We've no choice in the matter. The question is "what do you do with the growth you cannot control." That's because we cannot control it. In a free market society and in a strong private land rights state like Texas, people have a right to buy and sell land. And develop it. Even if this project fails, there will be another, and another.
If it looks like this will happen, we need to prepare and plan. In roadways. In infrastructure. In housing. That's because it won't be "just a fab plant." It'll be that, plus dozens of other businesses that support it.
I for one think this is an incredibly exciting development. But it doesn't matter what I think. It only matters that we manage this growth as wisely as possible.
My $.02 and respectfully yours,
Yancy '95 Place 5
So we wait and watch, and plan. If Austin could, they would rewind the clock and do things differently than they did at the headwaters of their tech renaissance. They can't. We're lucky because we can look at the mistakes they made and avoid them.
In the annals of a region's history, the argument isn't really about pro-growth or anti-growth. We've no choice in the matter. The question is "what do you do with the growth you cannot control." That's because we cannot control it. In a free market society and in a strong private land rights state like Texas, people have a right to buy and sell land. And develop it. Even if this project fails, there will be another, and another.
If it looks like this will happen, we need to prepare and plan. In roadways. In infrastructure. In housing. That's because it won't be "just a fab plant." It'll be that, plus dozens of other businesses that support it.
I for one think this is an incredibly exciting development. But it doesn't matter what I think. It only matters that we manage this growth as wisely as possible.
My $.02 and respectfully yours,
Yancy '95 Place 5
I have three major concerns. Property tax increases, traffic increases, what could this do to the Navasota River? Does anyone know anything about the types of waste this might put out?
This is already more than Samsung invested in Texas in many years. Could almost triple it.
If you've been through Taylor and looked at what they've built, it's massive.
I have a lot of friends that work there.
I'm curious what the estimated head count will look like.
A lot of this will be automated but it's still an enormous amount of humans working.
With AI taking jobs away, this is certainly a positive on that front.
Huge positive for the University and the surrounding area.
And yes, we can look at the mistakes Austin made and learn from them.
They never really had the infrastructure to handle the growth. They are paying for it now.
If you've been through Taylor and looked at what they've built, it's massive.
I have a lot of friends that work there.
I'm curious what the estimated head count will look like.
A lot of this will be automated but it's still an enormous amount of humans working.
With AI taking jobs away, this is certainly a positive on that front.
Huge positive for the University and the surrounding area.
And yes, we can look at the mistakes Austin made and learn from them.
They never really had the infrastructure to handle the growth. They are paying for it now.
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TyHolden said:
This is already more than Samsung invested in Texas in many years. Could almost triple it.
If you've been through Taylor and looked at what they've built, it's massive.
I have a lot of friends that work there.
I'm curious what the estimated head count will look like.
A lot of this will be automated but it's still an enormous amount of humans working.
With AI taking jobs away, this is certainly a positive on that front.
Huge positive for the University and the surrounding area.
Quick rundown from an AI query (not confirmed by me):
No fabrication plant this size has ever been built, so the upper end is genuinely speculative.
Construction phase (peak, 2027-2030):
15,000-30,000 workers. Trades $30-80 hr depending on skill. Heavy boilermaker, pipefitter, electrician, and instrumentation demand. Crews come from Texas first, then nationally. Most are itinerant extended-stay hotels, RV parks, short-term rentals. Some bring families.
Permanent direct employment:
Phase 1 ($55B): 6,000-10,000 jobs
Full buildout ($119B): 12,000-20,000 jobs
Salary bands (Texas semiconductor market, current):
Equipment operators / production techs: $50-75k
Manufacturing & maintenance technicians: $60-95k
Junior process engineers (BS): $90-120k
Mid-level process / equipment engineers: $120-180k
Senior engineers: $160-250k
Principal / staff engineers: $200-350k
Lithography / EUV specialists: $200-500k
Research scientists (PhD): $150-300k
Engineering managers: $180-280k
Plant / site leadership: $400K-$1m+
IT / cybersecurity: $90-180k
Quality, EHS, supply chain: $70-150k
Workforce mix at full operation (rough rule of thumb):
~40% technicians and operators, ~35% engineers, ~15% R&D and specialists, ~10% management and support.
Multiplier:
Semiconductor fabs run 3-5x indirect/induced employment. So $119B buildout 12,000-20,000 direct + 36,000-100,000 indirect. That's a Brazos Valley workforce expansion of 25-40% on top of current employment base.
Median direct salary lands somewhere around $110-140k
*****
The above is an AI estimate that I haven't confirmed or worked on at all.
Respectfully
Yancy '95
Yet we are already behind on infrastructure (roads, power grid, etc) and housing. We are close to having problems with water.
I see few plans to solve these problems as they exist, even less as they will exist in 20 years. All I see is rising taxes and more glory projects.
To me, this is the 2nd priority after safety of the population, for local government. What will COCS do about it all?
I see few plans to solve these problems as they exist, even less as they will exist in 20 years. All I see is rising taxes and more glory projects.
To me, this is the 2nd priority after safety of the population, for local government. What will COCS do about it all?
That's a heck of a lot of people. TXDOT better start working on expanding 30 to four lanes all the way to Carlos.
I assume the area on Greens Prairie between Rock Prairie and 30 would see an explosion of housing developments....
I assume the area on Greens Prairie between Rock Prairie and 30 would see an explosion of housing developments....
King Oaks home values will skyrocket.
tu ag said:
Yet we are already behind on infrastructure (roads, power grid, etc) and housing. We are close to having problems with water.
I see few plans to solve these problems as they exist, even less as they will exist in 20 years. All I see is rising taxes and more glory projects.
To me, this is the 2nd priority after safety of the population, for local government. What will COCS do about it all?
You're right to be paying attention to this. A project this size- even at half the announced scale- reshapes the Brazos Valley. No city in our region is fully ready for what's coming (if it does) and pretending otherwise would be a mistake.
What we can do is prepare deliberately: water infrastructure, neighborhood protection, workforce housing, regional coordination with Bryan and Grimes County, et al.
I've been working on those pieces for awhile and intergovernmental cooperation and coordination will be crucial. Our little silos won't help with something like this.
I think the "tri-cities" of College Station, Bryan and Navasota have a real chance to be a regional leader in this if we work together.
I'd rather we be the region other communities look to rather than the community that gets caught flat-footed.
I don't want College Station to become Hutto in five years-a town consumed by growth politics while real governance took a hit.
All regional governments need to govern competently and together while the largest economic shock in our history rolls through. That level of cooperation requires a different kind of leadership than we're used to, as I see it.
Respectfully,
Yancy '95 Place 5
Just have Elon use his technology.
Tunneling, flying Teslas, rockets, etc.
Might finally get that monorail the townies want.
Macy's would finally get sold.
Could be the most modern city in the world.
Tunneling, flying Teslas, rockets, etc.
Might finally get that monorail the townies want.
Macy's would finally get sold.
Could be the most modern city in the world.
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Bob Yancy said:tu ag said:
Yet we are already behind on infrastructure (roads, power grid, etc) and housing. We are close to having problems with water.
I see few plans to solve these problems as they exist, even less as they will exist in 20 years. All I see is rising taxes and more glory projects.
To me, this is the 2nd priority after safety of the population, for local government. What will COCS do about it all?
All regional governments need to govern competently and together while the largest economic shock in our history rolls through. That level of cooperation requires a different kind of leadership than we're used to, as I see it.
I want to highlight this...because it is 100% on point.
Austin politician...
Grimes County not a done deal https://t.co/WVkIsYqrPK
— Matt Mackowiak (@MattMackowiak) May 6, 2026
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TyHolden said:
Austin politician...Grimes County not a done deal https://t.co/WVkIsYqrPK
— Matt Mackowiak (@MattMackowiak) May 6, 2026
Whether it's this one or the inevitable next one, "the times they are a changin" and the technology wave will come.
Respectfully
Yancy '95 Place 5
Can we just go ahead and get this done?
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TyHolden said:
Can we just go ahead and get this done?
Everybody Tweet that pic to Elon!
TyHolden said:
Can we just go ahead and get this done?
we have karen's that can't take a airforce prop plane flying over town, imagine that
Tailgate88 said:TyHolden said:
Can we just go ahead and get this done?
Everybody Tweet that pic to Elon!
For those that want this, were Mr. Musk to get a few thousand tweets of this pic might actually work.
unclefish said:
King Oaks property taxes will skyrocket.
FIFY
You can bet Grimes CAD is licking their lips right now.
Im not completely against this whole thing. I actually stand to make a lot of money from it. But I do have another concern. Elon has made it no secret that he sees AI and advanced robotics as the future. This could very easily be his test case. What happens to our community when this thing starts off with 15,000 full time employees, then due to AI and robotics efficiencies, that gets cut to 1500 in the 10 years following? That would be catastrophic for the job and housing market. It would take decades to recover from. Im a fan of Elon Musk. He obviously has a reputation of following through on his promises and making his visions come to be. If this thing happens, we need to expect that employment will start off huge but will very likely be reduced with time.
Just something to consider.
Bob Yancy said:Tailgate88 said:TyHolden said:
Can we just go ahead and get this done?
Everybody Tweet that pic to Elon!
For those that want this, were Mr. Musk to get a few thousand tweets of this pic might actually work.
Laura Ingraham from Fox News....her daughter goes to school here
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Tailgate88 said:Quote:
New SpaceX facility could be coming to an area 20 miles away from Aggieland
Commissioners Court will take public comment on June 3 on an incentive agreement for a proposed project at the Gibbons Creek Reservoir
ANDERSON, Texas (KBTX) - Grimes County leaders are set to weigh a major economic development proposal involving Space Exploration Technologies Corp, known as SpaceX.
The Grimes County Commissioners Court is scheduled to hold a public hearing at 9 a.m. June 3, 2026, at the Grimes County Justice & Business Center, 270 FM 149 W. in Anderson, to consider approval of a property tax abatement agreement.
According to the county's public notice, the proposed agreement involves SpaceX and a designated reinvestment zone known as "SpaceX Reinvestment Zone No. 1 - 2026-001," described as being located at the Gibbons Creek Reservoir and surrounding areas.
The reservoir is located off Highway 30 in a rural area of Grimes County, approximately 20 miles east of Bryan-College Station.
The notice states SpaceX is proposing construction of a multi-phase, next-generation, vertically integrated semiconductor manufacturing and advanced computing fabrication facility a project the notice calls a "transformative investment" aimed at expanding domestic semiconductor manufacturing capacity.
The county's notice estimates $55 billion in capital investment for initial phases, and up to $119 billion total if additional phases are built.
They should put it in the middle of college station. Everyone that supports it should be forced to share a property line with it.
Sure. We all knew what we were getting into when we moved here.
It's only a matter of time.
I can understand people living out there not wanting this though. Hopefully, everybody gets a handsome ROI on their properties to somewhat make up for it.
It's only a matter of time.
I can understand people living out there not wanting this though. Hopefully, everybody gets a handsome ROI on their properties to somewhat make up for it.
I hope I did not offend anybody with this post. If I did, please come see me at my address in my profile so we can talk.
Anyone who is against things like this should just stop using the internet, their cars, their cell phones, computers etc. Everyone wants cheaper faster stronger computing power, but no one wants it by their house. I get it....but it is going to go somewhere.
These things have to be built, you have to advance with technology to keep up with the demand. The key is to embrace and plan appropriately. This could be the single biggest economic boom this area has ever seen. Even bigger than A&M.
Not gonna lie, if this doesn't go through, I will be rooting for whoever does get it for them to succeed and then we wish we would have gotten it here.
NIMBYism in this town/area is unreal.
These things have to be built, you have to advance with technology to keep up with the demand. The key is to embrace and plan appropriately. This could be the single biggest economic boom this area has ever seen. Even bigger than A&M.
Not gonna lie, if this doesn't go through, I will be rooting for whoever does get it for them to succeed and then we wish we would have gotten it here.
NIMBYism in this town/area is unreal.
Aggie_Fire said:
Anyone who is against things like this should just stop using the internet, their cars, their cell phones, computers etc. Everyone wants cheaper faster stronger computing power, but no one wants it by their house. I get it....but it is going to go somewhere.
These things have to be built, you have to advance with technology to keep up with the demand. The key is to embrace and plan appropriately. This could be the single biggest economic boom this area has ever seen. Even bigger than A&M.
Not gonna lie, if this doesn't go through, I will be rooting for whoever does get it for them to succeed and then we wish we would have gotten it here.
NIMBYism in this town/area is unreal.
no doubt about this. good comparison is Dell in Austin. Austin was about same size as BCS when Dell started there. the rest is history. good thing is we can look at their problems now and make sure we don't have the same issues. we're a loooong way from way they are right now though.
this would make A&M the top public university overnight.
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BrazosDog02 said:Tailgate88 said:Quote:
New SpaceX facility could be coming to an area 20 miles away from Aggieland
Commissioners Court will take public comment on June 3 on an incentive agreement for a proposed project at the Gibbons Creek Reservoir
ANDERSON, Texas (KBTX) - Grimes County leaders are set to weigh a major economic development proposal involving Space Exploration Technologies Corp, known as SpaceX.
The Grimes County Commissioners Court is scheduled to hold a public hearing at 9 a.m. June 3, 2026, at the Grimes County Justice & Business Center, 270 FM 149 W. in Anderson, to consider approval of a property tax abatement agreement.
According to the county's public notice, the proposed agreement involves SpaceX and a designated reinvestment zone known as "SpaceX Reinvestment Zone No. 1 - 2026-001," described as being located at the Gibbons Creek Reservoir and surrounding areas.
The reservoir is located off Highway 30 in a rural area of Grimes County, approximately 20 miles east of Bryan-College Station.
The notice states SpaceX is proposing construction of a multi-phase, next-generation, vertically integrated semiconductor manufacturing and advanced computing fabrication facility a project the notice calls a "transformative investment" aimed at expanding domestic semiconductor manufacturing capacity.
The county's notice estimates $55 billion in capital investment for initial phases, and up to $119 billion total if additional phases are built.
They should put it in the middle of college station. Everyone that supports it should be forced to share a property line with it.
Pebble Creek would be perfect!
there are 2 other locations being considered. this could just be a smoke screen to get a better deal out of those. no idea why those locations were not revealed.
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TyHolden said:
there are 2 other locations being considered. this could just be a smoke screen to get a better deal out of those. no idea why those locations were not revealed.
When a company courts a landowner they always come with some manner of NDA or at least a "please don't discuss this with anyone". A seller wouldn't want to mention anything to neighbors for fear of losing the sale and the buyer wouldn't want that done for fear of public push back.