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Last: 23 hrs ago by TyHolden
Impressive graphic from PERC above, albeit I don't understand why the jobs numbers are so low. First phase only? Anticipating automation via robotics? Doesn't include indirect employment? Hard to know. Hmm
Maybe because there aren't as many jobs as they want you to believe once construction is complete. Lots of automation.
You should move to a bigger city if that is what you are wanting. You would do well in California somewhere
Jbob04 said:
Maybe because there aren't as many jobs as they want you to believe once construction is complete. Lots of automation.
But can you imagine how many jobs will be created by just building this monstrosity? And that should last for years if it really going to be as large as they are saying. The local school districts will have mega cash to provide the high schoolers with IT training.
oklaunion said:Jbob04 said:
Maybe because there aren't as many jobs as they want you to believe once construction is complete. Lots of automation.
But can you imagine how many jobs will be created by just building this monstrosity? And that should last for years if it really going to be as large as they are saying. The local school districts will have mega cash to provide the high schoolers with IT training.
My guess is that most of those workers will coming from Houston not living in BCS
Jbob04 said:
You should move to a bigger city if that is what you are wanting. You would do well in California somewhere
I'm glad you brought up California. I've spent most of my career either in the Pac-West or working with people from there for the last 20-30 years. I've got about 10-15 years in semiconductor and probably around 5 in AI. I've never not lived in Texas. I grew up in small town Texas and then in most of the Texas cities since A&M. Moved to BCS not too long ago. We almost moved to a small town but it was too much of a change for the kids so I lost that battle. They love it here and we have no intention of leaving regardless of this decision.
I'd rather not leave this up to the Californias and Austins of the world. If we have a chance to shape this, I think it's a great opportunity to do that. Yes, I'd love to hole up in a bunker in the middle of nowhere in Texas (which I have) but that's not going to happen. There is no running from this. My family has a lot of land and we want to keep it forever. I'd give it up in a heartbeat, though, if I could help my kid's future (or A&M's for that matter). I've worked with a lot of South Africans and most don't like where this country is headed. See their history. I think Elon is about as good as we're going to get on this. He has FU money and can shape the future tremendously. Just today, Bezos announced a big semiconductor factory near Austin. I'm sure Google and Microsoft will announce one soon as well. We have somebody on our side and we need to keep it that way.
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I agree mostly.
There is a train coming down the tracks. Either we build the track where we want it to go or possibly get run over.
That being said, I think we need to have more empathy for the folks who don't agree and are about to have a lifestyle of quiet small communities turned on their heads.
There is a train coming down the tracks. Either we build the track where we want it to go or possibly get run over.
That being said, I think we need to have more empathy for the folks who don't agree and are about to have a lifestyle of quiet small communities turned on their heads.
tu ag said:
I agree mostly.
There is a train coming down the tracks. Either we build the track where we want it to go or possibly get run over.
That being said, I think we need to have more empathy for the folks who don't agree and are about to have a lifestyle of quiet small communities turned on their heads.
I don't think anybody disagrees with that.
Nobody likes to see corporate America taking over Texas land. It's going to happen regardless though. If not here, then in Rockdale or wherever will be going through the same thing. All we can hope for is that they get compensated enough to leave a great future for them and their heirs.
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Doesn't make it easy.
Thinking of folks like my in-laws. Some land has been in the family for generations and I can't imagine having that taken away, because of progress. There is a deep tie to identity, purpose, happiness, etc. to land. Not just any land. THIS land, that is mine.
Thinking of folks like my in-laws. Some land has been in the family for generations and I can't imagine having that taken away, because of progress. There is a deep tie to identity, purpose, happiness, etc. to land. Not just any land. THIS land, that is mine.
Based on other projects, it looks like a 5 yr timeline for Phase-1 full production. For example, TSMC (Phoenix) took 5 yrs (2020-25) and Samsung (Taylor, Tx) will be about the same (2022-2027). The Samsung foundry is interesting because completion was pushed back to build Tesla's 2nm AI chips.
benchmark said:
Based on other projects, it looks like a 5 yr timeline for Phase-1 full production. For example, TSMC (Phoenix) took 5 yrs (2020-25) and Samsung (Taylor, Tx) will be about the same (2022-2027). The Samsung foundry is interesting because completion was pushed back to build Tesla's 2nm AI chips.
I think another good comparison for how a small city is affected is Abilene as well. That's a $500 billion dollar project. It's a DC so not the exact same functionality but it's a massive game changer as well. I know some individuals that are moving to Abilene (from the big city) in the near future.
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saw this on Linkedin...
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Very exciting! I'm looking forward to it.
TyHolden said:
I think another good comparison for how a small city is affected is Abilene as well. That's a $500 billion dollar project. It's a DC so not the exact same functionality but it's a massive game changer as well. I know some individuals that are moving to Abilene (from the big city) in the near future.
Oh absolutely. How does a smallish city/county government climb the curve on short notice for a proposed multi-billion $ project? And how does it pay for the needed expert council? Nitpicky suggested edit though - the Abilene DC is about $12B
benchmark said:TyHolden said:
I think another good comparison for how a small city is affected is Abilene as well. That's a $500 billion dollar project. It's a DC so not the exact same functionality but it's a massive game changer as well. I know some individuals that are moving to Abilene (from the big city) in the near future.
Oh absolutely. How does a smallish city/county government climb the curve on short notice for a proposed multi-billion $ project? And how does it pay for the needed expert council? Nitpicky suggested edit though - the Abilene DC is about $12B
Yeah I was reading $500 million. Oracle just laid off 20-30% of staff to pay for it (that's what they said but they have layoffs every year).
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Flying past the Gibbons creek Power Plant, Soon to be SpaceX TeraFab!!! I hope. pic.twitter.com/YbergZDzFt
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That has to be 10 yo footage no?
Yes very old
Yeah, I wasn't sure about the video. It just popped up on my X feed. I've never actually been out there.
I hope we get a riverboat casino out of this....jk
I hope we get a riverboat casino out of this....jk
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TyHolden said:
Yeah, I wasn't sure about the video. It just popped up on my X feed. I've never actually been out there.
I hope we get a riverboat casino out of this....jk
It's a beautiful area except for the coal plant. I had always hoped it would be developed as lake front property. Being just minutes from BCS, I always wanted to build a lake house out there if possible and was waiting patiently for that to happen per the rumors. I figured many that work in Brazos would actually live on a lakehouse lot there given how close it is.
But this, in my mind, is a far better opportunity. The next generations deserve their shot at the American dream, and this project provides that to thousands of people while cleaning up and repurposing an industrial site.
There are always tradeoffs. This seems like a pretty darn good one given the circumstances.
Respectfully
Yancy '95
just found this gem...
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Agreed. All the optimism about state parks and housing developments ignored the facts of dealing with a brownfield site with contamination.
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If Musk gives every Grimes and Brazos County resident a self driving Tesla+ builds a nuclear power plant to, I'd be down. Solve the traffic and electricity issues overnight.
2 thumbs up for Yankee's Tavern.
That was good food.
Steak salad with homemade pickles and olives. Awesome.
Kids liked it too.
That was good food.
Steak salad with homemade pickles and olives. Awesome.
Kids liked it too.
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