2025 Expedition

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In reply to GarlandAg2012 • 11:26a, 10/4/24
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I'm pretty sure it folds down with the other side.

The seat bottoms are 60/40, and that 20 portion is part of the 60. See the video of the guy sitting in the third row.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DArmAZKpkMJ/?igsh=MXY3cmk2N2FoeW15YQ==
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In reply to PMD03 • 11:28a, 10/4/24
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PMD03 said:
This is symbolic of all that is wrong with American consumerism. The relentless drive for material accumulation fuels debt, stress, and dissatisfaction as people equate self-worth with possessions.

No one needs more than six footballs.
You don't always recover the balls you throw…

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In reply to NightHawk150 • 11:47a, 10/4/24
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NightHawk150 said:
I'm pretty sure it folds down with the other side.

The seat bottoms are 60/40, and that 20 portion is part of the 60. See the video of the guy sitting in the third row.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DArmAZKpkMJ/?igsh=MXY3cmk2N2FoeW15YQ==
Ahh ok that makes way more sense. The flap in the back that covers the hinge point also doesn't make sense if the "60" side doesn't fold all the way down. I am curious to see that in action.
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In reply to Braxton.Sherrill • 12:08p, 10/4/24
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Braxton.Sherrill said:
AgEng06 said:
As an owner of a 2020 Expedition (that has all kinds of issues), I like this one. BUT, that infotainment/screen layout is atrocious.
Only issue I've had on mine is the ford/gm transmission. I'm on my 4th and rebuilt two other times. About to take it back for the 7th time.

Wonder at what point they are going to start looking for other issues.
Yeah, the transmission has already been rebuilt once (prior to 30k miles), and been reprogrammed a few times too since then. It has also been in the shop for radio/infotainment issues (which has also been "fixed" one time, and now replaced) and power running board issues (passenger side was finally replaced this week).
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1:19p, 10/4/24
No need to fix the transmissions or cam phasers, people still buy them. GM/Ford SUVs look great and that's all their target audience cares about.

"So what, it's under warranty" seems to work for most people unfortunately
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2:35p, 10/4/24
like the tailgate feature. Looks better than the new bubble range rovers.
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2:44p, 10/4/24
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check out the dash/screens on the Navigator. I'm not sure what to think. At least they do not overlap like the Expy.

https://www.lincoln.com/luxury-suvs/navigator/2025/
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2:50p, 10/4/24
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Does the rear cargo remind anyone of the Sequoia?
Steering wheel looks like a Tesla.
What's pricing going to look like?
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In reply to GarlandAg2012 • 3:31p, 10/4/24
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GarlandAg2012 said:
Really like some of the features but am I understanding correctly that only the outboard seats in the third row fold flat, and the middle seat hinge point is few inches above the cargo floor? Seems like a terrible design decision unless you can remove the middle seat.
You know what, I rented a Jeep Wrangler 4xe recently and the middle seat didn't fold down like I was expecting due to the freaking Hybrid battery.

I don't think this 2025 Expy is a hybrid though. But that could be a reason.

I use the interior of my Expedition as a moving van - all the time. Folding down flat is extremely useful.
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In reply to HDeathstar • 3:34p, 10/4/24
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like the tailgate feature. Looks better than the new bubble range rovers.
I don't know if you've had one like that.

I've had that type of setup on a BMW X5 - it's freaking annoying.

I prefer the clean liftgate. Especially when you have to He-Man something into the back.
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4:05p, 10/4/24
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As an engineer, that's a no for me dawg. The screen overlap is out of the question and horrifically in line of site. The off-centered-ness is nails on a chalkboard.

It's bad enough being in Kyle Field early and staring at the uneven lines and overall lack of symmetry.

Whoever designed that wears a turtleneck in the summer.
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4:15p, 10/4/24
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that thing is ugly. is that just a big ass screen for the sake of a big ass screen? it provides no value and terrible looks.
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In reply to HollywoodBQ • 5:14p, 10/4/24
We had an Odyssey for a long time. Many times we had the third row flat and the middle row we just removed and put into the garage.

It was really handy.
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In reply to maroon barchetta • 10:34p, 10/4/24
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Yeah, I need to buy a pickup truck but... The Expy meets 99% of my needs.

The only time I 100% had to have a pickup truck was to remove about 3 tons of broken concrete that I jackhammered up from my backyard in California. $60 from U-Haul and I was set.
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11:27p, 10/4/24
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Ford is taking the terrible steering wheel design to another level.
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11:50p, 10/4/24
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Did they show how many footballs would fit in the Expedition Max. I own 9 footballs I like to carry with me everywhere. Trying to see if I need to cross this off the list
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9:11a, 10/5/24
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In the market for a large SUV in the next 12 months and was wondering about this refresh. Love the 2nd and 3rd row seat set up and split tailgate but the driver/infotainment set up is an absolute disaster and likely a deal breaker. I don't want to have to navigate through your infotainment software to do basic things like adjust seats, mirrors, lights, volume, etc… Bring back the buttons. Screens can look nice, but this was clearly half assed and not well thought out.

The shifter knob next to the volume knob is an interesting choice that will definitely cause some accidents.

It looks like Ford was just showing off the upper level trims. Asked on the YouTube reviews, but I'm wondering what is included in the base model expedition. The premium trims add some nice features, but I'd probably take a base Escalade over a >$80k Ford or Chevy.
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In reply to 1agswitchin4lanes • 7:09p, 10/5/24
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My mom drives a 2000
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10:49p, 10/5/24
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This is the most horrifically designed dash I've ever seen. How in the world does that make it through QA?

Just complete idiocracy. CX Design for cars has been completely thrown out the window due to incessant need for screen space.

Good lord this is awful.
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11:10p, 10/5/24
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Probably starts at 75 grand
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7:24a, 10/6/24
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I know most folks on TexAgs get a new vehicle every 2-3 years, so this doesn't matter, but does anyone think all that electronic display **** will still be working in 10-15 years or 200-250K miles?

Us LOL Poors that buy and hold a vehicle are screwed.
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In reply to Sea Speed • 8:15a, 10/6/24
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61 I think.
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In reply to Texasclipper • 8:48a, 10/6/24
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Yes. These aren't the analog driven electronic displays of yesterday year that still relied on physical buttons. These have very few moving parts.
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In reply to Teslag • 9:12a, 10/6/24
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Teslag said:
Yes. These aren't the analog driven electronic displays of yesterday year that still relied on physical buttons. These have very few moving parts.
Go ahead and tell yourself that. Once these parts start aging, they will have problems. The reality is that all these fancy gizmos and displays are what give people the most problems on cars today.

The display in my 2015 Canyon has already failed once in 68K miles resulting in not being able to control the radio until i replaced it. There are tons of complaints about this GM display on multiple vehicles. Yeah I know, its a GM vehicle and not a trouble free Tesla. There are lots of complaints about displays having minds of their own and blanking out/not working for lots of car manufacturers.

Hopefully the aftermarket will support rebuilding these things, but the manufacturers really don't want that and want us buying new over and over again. "Sorry, no more software support for your $100K Expedition, you must by new". Just like an Iphone, camera, and TV, is now.
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In reply to Teslag • 9:17a, 10/6/24
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Teslag said:
Yes. These aren't the analog driven electronic displays of yesterday year that still relied on physical buttons. These have very few moving parts.


No way in hell these displays will last 10-15 years. They will go through SW obsolescence like every other piece of tech and start failing.
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In reply to Flaith • 10:29a, 10/6/24
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Flaith said:
seven footballs!?

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3:23p, 10/6/24
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Those screens will fail even faster than a Tesla!

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In reply to HollywoodBQ • 3:54p, 10/6/24
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HollywoodBQ said:
HDeathstar said:
like the tailgate feature. Looks better than the new bubble range rovers.
I don't know if you've had one like that.

I've had that type of setup on a BMW X5 - it's freaking annoying.

I prefer the clean liftgate. Especially when you have to He-Man something into the back.


Swing away tailgate function from the f150's to arrive in 2027
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In reply to tamuags08 • 8:57p, 10/6/24
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tamuags08 said:
HollywoodBQ said:
HDeathstar said:
like the tailgate feature. Looks better than the new bubble range rovers.
I don't know if you've had one like that.

I've had that type of setup on a BMW X5 - it's freaking annoying.

I prefer the clean liftgate. Especially when you have to He-Man something into the back.


Swing away tailgate function from the f150's to arrive in 2027



Actually the split tailgate is one of my favorite features on the X5. Love that you can open it w/o having to quick dash underneath it to catch anything that's going to roll out like on my Tahoe prior. Also nice to be able to sit on it when fully down without dirty 'ing up the back of your pants on the bumper like my old Tahoe.
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9:06p, 10/6/24
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Bring back the side swinging doors from the old Tahoes and Suburbans
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In reply to chickencoupe16 • 9:21p, 10/6/24
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chickencoupe16 said:
Are those capacitive touch buttons on the steering wheel? I should be able to feel for every button I need so that my eyes can remain on the road. I thought touchscreen for the AC was bad but this is next level...
Look at the location of the horn on a Model S. Completely stupid.

And I've driven a car with all capacitive touch screens (except the shift paddles). Would never own one.

My Ram has the 12" screen and way to many controls are in the 12" screen, but at least there are enough buttons on the steering wheel and the AC can be turned up/down/off with physical buttons. But's it's borderline annoying.
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In reply to bpany@hurstlending.com • 9:25p, 10/6/24
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bpany@hurstlending.com said:
Does the rear cargo remind anyone of the Sequoia?
Steering wheel looks like a Tesla.
What's pricing going to look like?
The price of a 1990's starter home.
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10:19a, 10/7/24
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Spec'd like that release car, that thing will cost $100k...ha
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10:53a, 10/7/24
LOL….100k
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4:23p, 10/7/24
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Man... Those screens are awful. When we bought our '23, one of the main factors (besides price) that kept us in an XLT as compared to the higher trims was the smaller screen and physical HVAC controls.
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