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AggieOO
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We just got to mingus mountain, mile 108. Rain subsided just before my pacing stretch, but we just went through 12.5 miles of mud and up 3000 feet. Doing a reset/sleep here, and then I'm taking her 17 more miles down to Jerome. We are in heavy fog at the moment. Then, it's time for me to get some sleep and recover before I have to jump back in and take her up the next big ass climb.

She got rained on quite a bit through the first 96 miles.
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How are yall feeling?
AggieOO
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I feel fine now that I've caught up on sleep. Can't speak for spartan. Sleep was hard to come by for a good chunk of the week.

I'm going to put together some sort of quick recap here in the near future. Will have some longer form stuff coming, but that will take a while.
aggiespartan
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My leg is all messed up. I think it hurts more today than it has the last couple days.
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I've recovered from being sleep and (partially) food deprived. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise, crewing something like this while driving multiple hours a day at all times of day/night, coordinating logistics of housing and transporting multiple pacers flying in/out, being constantly ready to pace a stretch in the event something happened with a pacer, and worrying about your spouse trying to run 250 miles is stressful.
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Well, my running partner and I ran the Grand Canyon today. The good news was we made it from the South Rim to the North Rim in 9 hours.

But we quit at the North Rim because my running partner took a hard fall and she had cuts and bruises, and I was feeling really crampy at the north rim and wasn't sure I could take the descent back into the canyon.

While we failed in our goal of R3, we had fun and met great people along the way. We also promised that we will go back next year for revenge (when we've actually trained for it).
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AggieOO
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was the north rim open? Both times i did it, we were there the first weekend of May and the north rim wasn't open. Did you call someone to shuttle you back? If so, that had to have been a long wait, even if the north rim was open.

R2R is still a feat. That initial descent destroys the quads and then you get the long slow climb through the box canyon after Phantom Ranch before the big push up to the rim. Its gorgeous in the Canyon though. Completely changed my perception of the Grand Canyon. I'd seen it from the top, and while cool, its a whole other experience to get down in there and actually see the Canyon. I think the North Side (from Phantom Ranch on) is incredible.
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Thanks! The north rim and most of the water stations were opened (on May 15th), which was nice. And we also had a ride/crew with gear at the north rim.

The two things that we didn't count on were my training partner falling hard at mile 5 and my getting away from my food/drink schedule. She was just pushing the pace so hard that I got all off track food/drink wise and couldn't recover.

She wanted to go back on her own, which I didn't like (neither did her BF), so we called it a day. But the canyon…..it was fantastic. The pics just don't do it justice. And the people were all so friendly.

We are heading to the Grand Tetons in July and to Mexico in October (Copper Canyon) so needed to stay healthy.

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My Cocodona 2(1)50 experience.

Well, I DNF'd at 150. I think a lot of things probably compounded my experience, but what eventually took me out was that all of the ligaments in my right leg seized up and I couldn't move my foot anymore. My knee swelled up too, which has never happened to me.

The beginning of the race was fine. It was a little cooler and cloudy, but nothing crazy yet. A girl got bitten by a rattlesnake 1.1 miles in. She was ahead of me and was laying on the trail waiting for the medic when I ran by. They eventually determined it was a dry bite and let her continue after holding her an hour.

The first couple of aid stations/water drops were kind of hectic but most people were still in good spirits. Then, we hit the mud. It was awful. It was sticky and pretty deep in some spots. Up through camp W into Whiskey Row, I was probably back of the middle of the pack. I was alone for a lot of the time, but I also spent a lot of time running with a few other people. When we rolled into the aid stations, there were friendly and knowledgable volunteers. Everyone was covered in mud. We were doing some very steep climbs that were all mud. I took a nap at whiskey row because our airbnb was right there.

I feel like I started to slow down a little here and at each aid station, my cushion lessened as my knee and foot slowly stopped working. Everything is kind of a jumble.

The aid stations got less impressive as I went on. It almost felt like some of them were starting to close up before I even got there, even though I was still a little ahead. Iron King was just a tent on the sidewalk by a neighborhood. I was really looking forward to Fain Ranch, but there was no energy when I got there. Someone had said that their tent collapsed earlier in the day from the rain. I guess from watching the live feed, everything seemed more impressive and grand than it actually was.

The fields that we ran through before and after Fain were all mud. I took a couple steps and ended up knee deep in it. I also went through the fields in the dark, so navigating was a little more tough. There was also a lot of trash scattered around.

I knew there would be some road running to get from trail to trail but I think I just didn't realize how much of the course would just be boring. I'm not sure if knowing less or more would have benefitted me. I also took a fall running down into Jerome. AggieOO was with me and thought it was a rough fall, but it was pretty normal for me. I don't know how I hadn't fallen before that.

So I ended up making 150 miles with 23,000 feet of gain. I thought my quads were going to be destroyed, but I really wasn't sore at all except for my foot and knee. I probably could have made it one more section, but I don't know if I would have made the cutoff.

I'm still kind of in a blur about the race because I was expecting some incredible existential experience, and I didn't get it.

Tomorrow, I'm going to sign up for the Sedona 125, and will plan to go back to Cocodona in 2027. In the meantime, I'm going to work on my speed and my climbing legs. I don't want to be so close to cutoffs. I learned the hard way that in a 200, if you are too close to cutoffs, you have no time to troubleshoot, and you're going to need that time to troubleshoot and sleep.

I am still disappointed because I thought I could do it, but I'll be back. If it had been a 200 instead of 250, I probably would have tried to gut it out, but 100 more miles just seemed impossible at the time.

AggieOO
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Quote:

I knew there would be some road running to get from trail to trail but I think I just didn't realize how much of the course would just be boring. I'm not sure if knowing less or more would have benefitted me. I also took a fall running down into Jerome. AggieOO was with me and thought it was a rough fall, but it was pretty normal for me. I don't know how I hadn't fallen before that.
well, you did technically have a slow fall in the mud on the trail descending down to the road.
aggiespartan
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I think I had a lot of slow falls in the mud. I think that was part of the problem!
AggieOO
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cocodona sold out in 3 mins. I'm guessing lottery next year.
AggieOO
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Courtney is on the registration list. And I see jeff Browning will be back.

I'm sure more elites will make their way onto the starting list, b/c it looks pretty "light" right now.
aggiespartan
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I'm in for the 125.
AggieOO
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aggiespartan said:

I'm in for the 125.
i think that's a smart approach, so you can see the second half before giving it another go.
aggiespartan
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After today, I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to get in in 2027, but I guess we'll see if they improve the process.
AggieOO
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They went 300+ deep pulling from the waitlist this year, so it's not completely out of the question.
aggiespartan
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125 sold out
aggiespartan
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Hans Troyer on the Freetrail Podcast just dropped.
AggieOO
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sweet. got something to listen to on my run today!
AggieOO
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aggiespartan
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I'm still working on recovering. I've still got some pain in my foot but I think it will be gone pretty soon. I'm starting with a coach in June that seems to understand what I want to do and supports it. He has a lot of 200+ experience, and I think he understands my plight at the back of the pack and wanting to move up.

So far to round out the year, I've got Hennepin Hundred. I might add a shorter race in November just because it's local.

Next year, already signed up for Three Days at Syllamo (hopefully no tornado this time) and Sedona 125. The coach mentioned adding in some shorter road races here and there to test speed, so I'll probably do that throughout too.
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Killian at Broken Arrow and Western States this year!
AggieOO
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Worked for Jim last year.
aggiespartan
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John Kelly didn't waste much time. Already try to go after Tara Dower's FKT.

Sweep4-2
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With my R3 attempt last weekend not panning out and having been reduced to an R2, I'm looking for a fun, impromptu self-supported trail to run sometime late next week. Preferably within 4 hours or less of Houston.

Any recommendations? Trying to find something different than Huntsville, BB, Sealy, etc.
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AggieOO
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I'll be no help. It's a miserable time of year for long runs. I'd say head to Arkansas, but that's more than 4 hours.
AggieOO
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He's had it on the radar for awhile. Bern waiting for him to kick it off.
aggiespartan
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Looks like Jim is out and Dan Green is in for WSER
coop-aero-06
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aggiespartan said:

Looks like Jim is out and Dan Green is in for WSER


Wow. Crazy if true. Where are you seeing that?
aggiespartan
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Entrants list
AggieOO
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Hayden hawkes is out too.
AggieOO
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Unbreakable 2 off, as per Dylan's socials.
aggiespartan
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So it's a bunch of young guys versus Killian?
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aggiespartan said:

So it's a bunch of young guys versus Killian?
That will be a fun storyline to track. Plus the 200-mile guys like String bean, Harry, and Dan Green.
 
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