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The Me-262 most certainly had a radio for navigation and communication.

And one variant had a 50mm cannon, otherwise it carried 4 x 30mm cannons. It never had a .50-cal gun (no German WWII planes did).
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agracer said:

The Me-262 most certainly had a radio for navigation and communication.

And one variant had a 50mm cannon, otherwise it carried 4 x 30mm cannons. It never had a .50-cal gun (no German WWII planes did).

Yes per the video the 50 cal was a prototype, but the Narwal model was certainly an objective of the Luftwaffe.
https://old-wiki.warthunder.com/Me_262_A-1/U4
Cannon vs. gun I dunno, but it existed (briefly at least):
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It was specifically ordered by the Luftwaffe to counter Allied bombing raids, as the already heavy four 30 mm MK 103 autocannons were deemed still not enough to "efficiently" destroy a bomber. To accomplish this task, the Narwal was equipped with a large 50 mm Mk 214 autocannon derived from the 50 mm Pak 38 anti-tank cannon, intended to destroy the bomber with few shots. Due to the weapon being overly complicated to produce, along with the need to modify the airframe to endure the recoil of such a large cannon, it underwent refinement until February 1945. During this time, the two prototypes was outfitted with a similar-calibre BK 5 autocannon (that already served with the Me 410 A-1/U4 and Me 410 B-2/U4) as a placeholder until the refined version of the Mk.214 autocannon, now designated Mk.214a, was equipped. The Narwal then underwent testing between March-April 1945. As the war in Europe came to a close, the need for a specialized bomber-hunter version of the Me 262 was deemed unnecessary as it would further drain the already dwindling resources that Germany had left, and as such the aircraft was not accepted for production.

Introduced in Update 1.41, the Me 262 A-1/U4 Narwal is the standard Me 262 A-1 armed with a single 50 mm Mk.214a cannon in the nose instead of four 30 mm MK 108. Due to the specialized armament, the Narwal will often struggle to land a hit onto any planes smaller than a bomber due to the low rate of fire of the cannon and relative inaccuracy (especially while stock). However, if it does, any aircraft smaller than a heavy bomber that is unfortunate enough to get hit by it would be instantly vaporized. As the Narwal has a much lower BR compared to the other Me 262 variants, it can further use its higher top speed against piston-engined fighter to quickly strike them down after they have bled most of their energy away in an attempt to chase you. However, it struggles against other jet fighters that have more reliable armaments.

Since the Mk.214a autocannon is a derivative of the Pak 38 anti-tank cannon, the Narwal has access to a high-velocity HVAP-T shell with great penetration, allowing it to perform tank-busting duties very efficiently even without suspended armaments. It is not dissimilar to the Hs 129 B-3 in this sense, but with much better top speed and mobility.

I don't think it matters too much, just some interesting history.

The 'v-tail' and more swept-wing variants are more interesting, but thankfully the war ended and the rest is history.
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Not necessarily a mind blowing history fact, but a pretty cool story about actor Peter Ortiz…a Marine working with OSS in WWII Europe.

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His presence in formation for the first time at Parris Island became a learning moment for everyone present when the drill instructor (DI) balefully noticed the decorations on recruit Ortiz's chest. Two weeks after the DI had vocally satisfied his curiosity regarding the identity and provenance of said decorations, the Parris Island commander was writing to the commandant of the Marine Corps requesting confirmation of Ortiz's service in the French Foreign Legion, noting Ortiz was a "unique new recruit" with "knowledge of military matters … far beyond that of a normal recruit" and recommended that Ortiz receive a commission. On Aug. 16, Ortiz was commissioned a second lieutenant in the Marine Corps, retroactive from July 24, 1942.


https://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/the-incredible-saga-of-col-peter-j-ortiz/

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As the armies of World War I experimented with how to use the new technology of aircraft, the first German general to die from an air attack was on December 6, 1914. He was mounted on a horse and was mortally wounded by a French airplane that dropped a metal arrow.
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…dropped a metal arrow.


Gotta be one hell of a conversation both before and after that mission
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Just think, it would be until December 19th, 1988 before lawn darts were banned.
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I'm pretty sure the Acme Company made the deadly 1914 dart.
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Answer, per grock:
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The Burger King located at Regensburger Str. 336 in Nuremberg, Germany, is housed in a historic building originally constructed in 1936 as a transformer station to power the Nazi Party Rally Grounds, specifically the Zeppelin Field stadium and its "Cathedral of Lights."

Designed by architect Albert Speer, the white marble structure is a notable example of Third Reich-era architecture. The building features a distinctive silhouette of a Reichsadler (Nazi eagle) where the swastika and eagle symbols were removed, leaving a visible outline. It stood dormant for years before being purchased by the Nuremberg-based power company N-Ergie in 1960, used as a warehouse until 1998, and later acquired by Burger King in 2006.

The building also houses a gym and is near the Documentation Center and the Reichsparteitagsgelnde (Nazi Party Rally Grounds). Its historical significance draws attention, with a sign in front detailing its past, and it has been nicknamed "Reichsburger King" online due to its Nazi-era origins.

https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g187310-d5519268-Reviews-Burger_King-Nuremberg_Middle_Franconia_Franconia_Bavaria.html
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The Surratt boardinghouse in DC, where the plot to kill Lincoln was hatched , is now a Chinese Restaurant called Wok and Roll.

Oh and a little darker but:

Arbeit macht Burgers
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Good ones. I'm just surprised it hasn't burned down at some point, in the intervening years.

LOL;
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The conspiracy to assassinate the president was planned in a building that stands in D.C.'s modern-day Chinatown. Then, it served as a boarding house under the ownership of Mary Surratt. Today, it's a Wok n' Roll Restaurant a spot that serves Japanese and Chinese food, and offers karaoke. It's just a walk away from the theatre where Lincoln was murdered.

According to the National Register of Historic Places, assassination conspirators Booth, Lewis Powell and George Atzerodt stayed at Surratt's house between September 1864 and April 1865. Days after the president was assassinated, Surratt was arrested, and later found guilty, in connection with the murder.

If you walk past the eatery, or even venture inside, it's easy to miss the sign outside that indicates what exactly this place used to be. But make no mistake; you're about to consume a spicy tuna roll and belt out some horrible song on historic ground.

That's about as American as it gets.
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I'm not into Chinese food but theirs is pretty good. The address number has changed, in 1865 it was 541 H Street, now as your picture shows it is 604.
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During the whole of World War I and II, the highest month loss of shipping by the allies was the month America entered World War I, April 1917. 373 allied ships were lost with a total tonnage of 873,754. Most were sunk by U-boats.
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The largest World War I mines (19 in total) were tunneled under the Messines Ridge and Ploestreet Wood near Lille France. Work began on them in January 1917 and for six months British, Canadian and Australian soldiers dug tunnels and shafts as long as 2,000 feet. One was dug 100 feet under the German trenches. When they blew on June 7, 1917, the total explosive power was 500 tons. One of the mines instantly killed 10,000 Germans or buried them alive. The largest crater was 430 feet in diameter. People in southern England woke up to an earthquake caused by the detonations.

But 2 of the 19 failed to explode. One was located in 1955 and was deliberately detonated. The other northeast of the Ploegstreet (Plugstreet as the chaps called it) Wood, is still there.
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The white Betty's of the Japanese delegation sent to negotiate surrender terms off of Okinawa. Bataan 1 and Bataan 2 were the call signs they were forced to use.

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The two Betty bombers made their way to Ie Shima along a route clearly delineated in a Japanese message to the Allied Command. While inbound to Ie Shima, the surrender planes were met by U.S. P-38s and B-25s. To make certain the Japanese fliers landed at the correct airstrip, huge white crosses were painted to show the proper place.

The fate of Japan and the Allies hinged on the outcome of this flight. Suddenly a loss of radio contact sent both of the white bombers into a holding pattern until it was resolved. On Ie Shima, the American airmen crowded against a hastily-erected barbed wire fence to get a first look at the arriving Japanese negotiators.
Walter Schurr, a B-24 instrument technician with the 90th Bomb Group, said the crowd was largely silent as the Japanese deplaned. Silent until one member of the Japanese delegation emerged from his bomber carrying a bouquet of flowers. At that moment some in the crowd told him, in succinct terms, just what he could do with his flowers. Four years of war were pent up in the men watching history unfold before them.

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When the delegation returned, their exit to Japan was marred when one of the Betty bombers ran into a ditch, rendering it unflyable. The remaining aircraft left with the surrender documents, but a fuel leak put it down in the surf near the Japanese coast. The Japanese surrender delegates aboard that airplane finally made it home.

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Thank you for your service and sacrifice.
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Til that in 1931, Winston Churchill was run over by a car in NYC. The car was traveling at least 30 mph. He was left with deep bruising, broken ribs and a head wound. He credits the American doctors with "saving his life" so he might have been closer to death than reported.

It happened because he looked right instead of left!
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Always look both ways no matter the country. But it certainly is the reverse problem for Americans in the UK.
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I just got back from Grand Cayman- driving on the left wasn't so bad and crossing the street was fine - it was the dang blinker being on the wrong side of steering wheel that drove me nuts!

Also dealing with all the car controls on the left side threw me off. It's funny when you think about all the things you are "programmed" to do that become difficult when you are forced to do them differently!
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I always drift to the center driving a UK car and recently I drove in America with a Brit lady and she was scaring me driving on the shoulder of the road past stalled vehicles.
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gigemhilo said:

I just got back from Grand Cayman- driving on the left wasn't so bad and crossing the street was fine - it was the dang blinker being on the wrong side of steering wheel that drove me nuts!

Also dealing with all the car controls on the left side threw me off. It's funny when you think about all the things you are "programmed" to do that become difficult when you are forced to do them differently!


I spent 2 weeks driving around the UK and the only struggles I had was getting used to the rear view mirror being on my left, and those dang roundabouts!!!
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The roundabouts were awesome once you understood the rules. I wish we had those here in the US, but somebody thought traffic lights were a better idea
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gigemhilo said:

The roundabouts were awesome once you understood the rules. I wish we had those here in the US, but somebody thought traffic lights were a better idea

When I was growing up, there was one in Lubbock where six streets came together. Worked like a charm.

So of course they replaced it with a multi-million dollar overpass
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I spent two weeks in Scotland a few years ago. We rented a car when we got to the airport and drove straight to our hotel. I was getting honked at before I left the rental car parking lot. I almost hit a bus, but didn't. I have to remind my wife still that I didn't hit. Almost. It took a little while to get the hang of driving there but I got pretty good at it. I did struggle turning right and crossing traffic, that was kind of weird.

However, after we got to the hotel, we went walking around Edinburgh because we couldn't check in yet. So we left our luggage and went exploring. We were trying to cross a street, and I looked left, right, left. I stepped into the street and my wife pulled me back onto the sidewalk because there was a box truck barreling down on me. There was a dog in the passenger seat, the driver's side in America. I got freaked out. Not because I almost got ran over, but because it appeared in my mind that the dog was driving the truck!

We would both get freaked out seeing what looked like kids driving cars because the seating situation is backward.
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My last trip, first day one of my colleagues was giving me a lift back to the hotel and I naturally went to the driver's door for the ride. As my colleague walked up to me he said, "You are such a gentleman wanting to open the door for me but I think I got it, mate."
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Pretty incredible story: the Polish nurse who saved more than Schindler, from Treblinka deaths. Irena Sendler, head of the Zegota. Thread:




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When the war was over, Irena carried on her career as a social worker. She received numerous awards for her outstanding bravery and courage; these included the previously mentioned Yad Vashem's Righteous Among the Nations, and Jan Karski's Valor and Courage. In addition to these, Irena was also awarded Poland's Order of the White Eagle, and has been a nominee for the Nobel Peace Prize.
Irena then spent the latter part of her life cared for in Warsaw by a woman called Elzbieta Ficowska. Eizbieta was one of the children (six months old at the time) Irena had smuggled out of city's ghetto.
Irena has remarked on her actions during the war, stating that "We who were rescuing children re not some kind of heroes. That term irritates me greatly. The opposite is true I continue to have qualms of conscience that I did so little. I could have done more. This regret will follow me to my death."


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BIBLICAL MEANING
According to the Museo Capella Sansevero ("Sansevero Chapel Museum") the net symbolizes sin. As the angel sets the man free, he rids him of his wrongdoings and introduces him to the Bible, which rests at his feet. In order to emphasize the idea of liberation, Queirolo adorned the open pages of the book with a Latin passage that reads: "I will break thy chain, the chain of the darkness and long night of which thou art a slave so that thou might not be condemned with this world."

SECULAR SYMBOLISM
In addition to religious undertones, the sculpture incorporates secular symbols. For example, the flame on the angel's head represents human intellect, while the globe signifies worldly passions. These elements coincide with Raimondo's dedication to his father, which explores the idea of "human fragility, which cannot know great virtues without vice."

According to the museum, the sculpture also appears to denote aspects of freemasonry, a fraternal organization. The Bible, for example, serves a dual purpose, as an open book is one of the three "great lights" of Masonry. Similarly, the concept of light and darkexplored by the aforementioned biblical passage"appears to be a clear reference to Masonic initiation, where those being initiated would enter wearing a ritual blindfold to open their eyes to the new light of the Truth."

The Marble Net
While its symbolism is compelling, it is The Release from Deception's sculptural detailsnamely, its exquisitely carved netthat has captivated viewers for centuries. Though at first glance, this structure appears to be composed of intertwined rope, a closer inspection reveals that the open-mesh material is made entirely from a single block of marble.

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The state of Washington was named that to avoid confusing its name with the nation's capital's name.
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The Confederate constitution had strict citizenship requirements for officials (natural borne) and voters alike, and limited federal courts jurisdiction significantly. Also, a term limit of one (6 year) term for the president.

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gigemhilo said:

The roundabouts were awesome once you understood the rules. I wish we had those here in the US, but somebody thought traffic lights were a better idea

There's been one in Waco for nearly 100 years... Still in use.
Unlike the one in Lubbock which was destroyed when they build the interstate over it in the 80's, they intentionally missed the one in Waco when I-35 was being built in the 60's.
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BQ78 said:

As the armies of World War I experimented with how to use the new technology of aircraft, the first German general to die from an air attack was on December 6, 1914. He was mounted on a horse and was mortally wounded by a French airplane that dropped a metal arrow.




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Rabid Cougar said:

BQ78 said:

As the armies of World War I experimented with how to use the new technology of aircraft, the first German general to die from an air attack was on December 6, 1914. He was mounted on a horse and was mortally wounded by a French airplane that dropped a metal arrow.






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Hitler's aircraft carrier, which, because he was an erratic drug addicted genocidal maniac, was designed, built, commissioned, then refitted, but never used, the Graf Zeppelin.

Pretty amusing story (Hitler losing his **** after the inconsequential Barents Sea battle), imho, for anyone unfamiliar. 33 knots, 2 inch armor plating on the main deck, big armored guns, only 36 or so aircraft. The Germans had it designed by a guy, who had never even been on an airplane.

Worst ever? I dunno. Scuttled by the Germans, then raised and sunk by the Soviets after the war. The video amused me.
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It also didn't allow states to outlaw slavery within a state if the voters wanted to.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
 
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