https://www.fox4news.com/sports/highland-park-forfeits-boys-state-soccer-title
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Every year we do a UIL training over these situations and it clearly states the end of instruction on Friday.34blast said:
Yeah, it was weird, he was eligible at 4 PM not 1 PM (when game was played)
It's worth noting that Highland Park's new AD has 0 years of experience in athletics or dealing with the UIL. I believe he simply told the UIL that they played a player who was academically ineligible, because that's what the teacher told him immediately after the game.jeffk said:
That doesn't make sense to me. The UIL wouldn't care about district standards that are higher than their own. And the UIL certainly wouldn't be reporting it as a vacated title due to playing an ineligible player if that player had met their eligibility standards.
TurboVelo said:
So, the rest of the story: he is and was always eligible under UIL rules. Highland Park holds a higher academic standing, and deemed him ineligible per that.
The School Board is meeting tonight to look at firing the AD and Superintendent. https://meetings.boardbook.org/Public/PublicNotice/2024?meeting=685310Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:TurboVelo said:
So, the rest of the story: he is and was always eligible under UIL rules. Highland Park holds a higher academic standing, and deemed him ineligible per that.
I'm sorry but that sounds like HP propaganda. As long as the kid was above 69, he would be eligible in the eyes of the UIL. And the principal and teacher know that, if I'm a betting man.
Correct. UIL isn't just athletics. Principals deal with the UIL on academic, music, performing arts, debate, and other competitions. A student's grades & academic eligibility factor into participation in all of them.jeffk said:
Their AD has been a principal in the district for nearly 20 years and the past four were at HP HS.
I get that he hasn't been a coach before, but he's not unfamiliar with how UIL and their rules work.
TurboVelo said:The School Board is meeting tonight to look at firing the AD and Superintendent. https://meetings.boardbook.org/Public/PublicNotice/2024?meeting=685310Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:TurboVelo said:
So, the rest of the story: he is and was always eligible under UIL rules. Highland Park holds a higher academic standing, and deemed him ineligible per that.
I'm sorry but that sounds like HP propaganda. As long as the kid was above 69, he would be eligible in the eyes of the UIL. And the principal and teacher know that, if I'm a betting man.
The player has never failed a class.
Nothing was finalized or announced, when I started typing this, although that could change at any minute.Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:TurboVelo said:The School Board is meeting tonight to look at firing the AD and Superintendent. https://meetings.boardbook.org/Public/PublicNotice/2024?meeting=685310Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:TurboVelo said:
So, the rest of the story: he is and was always eligible under UIL rules. Highland Park holds a higher academic standing, and deemed him ineligible per that.
I'm sorry but that sounds like HP propaganda. As long as the kid was above 69, he would be eligible in the eyes of the UIL. And the principal and teacher know that, if I'm a betting man.
The player has never failed a class.
What was decided?
you are related to the player or have a kid on the team, clearlyTurboVelo said:The School Board is meeting tonight to look at firing the AD and Superintendent. https://meetings.boardbook.org/Public/PublicNotice/2024?meeting=685310Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:TurboVelo said:
So, the rest of the story: he is and was always eligible under UIL rules. Highland Park holds a higher academic standing, and deemed him ineligible per that.
I'm sorry but that sounds like HP propaganda. As long as the kid was above 69, he would be eligible in the eyes of the UIL. And the principal and teacher know that, if I'm a betting man.
The player has never failed a class.
jessexy said:Correct. UIL isn't just athletics. Principals deal with the UIL on academic, music, performing arts, debate, and other competitions. A student's grades & academic eligibility factor into participation in all of them.jeffk said:
Their AD has been a principal in the district for nearly 20 years and the past four were at HP HS.
I get that he hasn't been a coach before, but he's not unfamiliar with how UIL and their rules work.
PatAg said:you are related to the player or have a kid on the team, clearlyTurboVelo said:The School Board is meeting tonight to look at firing the AD and Superintendent. https://meetings.boardbook.org/Public/PublicNotice/2024?meeting=685310Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:TurboVelo said:
So, the rest of the story: he is and was always eligible under UIL rules. Highland Park holds a higher academic standing, and deemed him ineligible per that.
I'm sorry but that sounds like HP propaganda. As long as the kid was above 69, he would be eligible in the eyes of the UIL. And the principal and teacher know that, if I'm a betting man.
The player has never failed a class.
TurboVelo said:
HP Admin released a clarification email today stating that their standard is such than any student with an average below 70 in any class at any time is ineligible until that student is above 70 in all classes. The player failed a test in an honors class earlier in the week, making him ineligible per HP's standards. According to the email, the coach "missed" the updated ineligible list. Clearly the system at HP needs work.
All personnel decisions will be made at the end of the school year.
The UIL has said they will honor any school's higher academic standards on eligiblility.
TurboVelo said:
HP Admin released a clarification email today stating that their standard is such than any student with an average below 70 in any class at any time is ineligible until that student is above 70 in all classes. The player failed a test in an honors class earlier in the week, making him ineligible per HP's standards. According to the email, the coach "missed" the updated ineligible list. Clearly the system at HP needs work.
All personnel decisions will be made at the end of the school year.
The UIL has said they will honor any school's higher academic standards on eligiblility.
jeffk said:
Yeah, I'm all for high academic standards, but with zero lead time? No, thank you. I'd coach somewhere else.
Knucklesammich said:jeffk said:
Yeah, I'm all for high academic standards, but with zero lead time? No, thank you. I'd coach somewhere else.
Imagine the ramifications in other sports as well like football for eligibility and film for a kid trying to get a scholarship. Why would the UIL be involved here? That's the schools decision as they have no say to enforce random standards…this makes no sense
Maybe I'm hardcore but I agree with this. If you want to play, don't fail your classes. Or tests if you're at HP. Don't put yourself in jeopardy, or your team.PatAg said:
maybe kids in high school should be taking school more seriously?