Hard to take them that serious when they don't know we are drafting at #2.

I still think Sorber will have the better career if his foot is ok. He's a more complete center.

I can't see any way the Spurs trade up for a guy like Malauch. They will just address backup center with the MLE.

My favorite option is that Orlando has a logjam at center, money is tight, and they want to keep Mo Wagner there as the backup center with his ability to stretch the floor a little. So they trade Goga into our MLE (about 8.3M) leaving us with 5.1M in MLE left and 5.1M in BAE (which can't be combined.)

Try to get LaRavia with a 4y deal starting with the rest of the MLE and Taurean Prince with the BAE. Center with the 38th pick. Carter Bryant at 14

Wemby - Goga - Rocco (two-way)
Barnes - Sochan - LaRavia
Prince - Bryant - Keldon
Castle - Vassell - Julian
Fox - Harper - Wesley

Minnesota wants Durant, do they? Hear me out.

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Hard to take them that serious when they don't know we are drafting at #2.

I still think Sorber will have the better career if his foot is ok. He's a more complete center.

I can't see any way the Spurs trade up for a guy like Malauch. They will just address backup center with the MLE.

My favorite option is that Orlando has a logjam at center, money is tight, and they want to keep Mo Wagner there as the backup center with his ability to stretch the floor a little. So they trade Goga into our MLE (about 8.3M) leaving us with 5.1M in MLE left and 5.1M in BAE (which can't be combined.)

Try to get LaRavia with a 4y deal starting with the rest of the MLE and Taurean Prince with the BAE. Center with the 38th pick. Carter Bryant at 14

Wemby - Goga - Rocco (two-way)
Barnes - Sochan - LaRavia
Prince - Bryant - Keldon
Castle - Vassell - Julian
Fox - Harper - Wesley

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I like Sorber too and can see why you say that. Sorber is a better perimeter player. I know his shot is more developed than Maluach and that is a big deal to stretch the floor as a 5. But I worry about his foot. He played with explosion, I hope he regains it and his foot isn't an issue.

Maluach has agility for a big man. You can see his soccer athleticism, he also has some of the nostalgia traits of centers in the past, his huge size and length remind me of mutombo. But I think Maluach is better offensively, or can develop a good offensive game as he is pretty new to the sport but has great agility for a big guy. Maluach could really develop.

I would be ok with taking sorber around 20 or so, but at 14 it's too much a gamble with his foot,

I like Sorber and Maluach over all of the centers drafted last year. Maluach I like for the spurs, but Sorber is a close second, but with the foot injury, I would definitely take Maluach.

I'd be good with a player like Goga. I would support that, I think starting wing is a big role for Priince, especially with Harper. The problem is if we start castle at the 3, it's a small lineup, unless we have a big four and a big center or Wemby.

This might be the only way for Phoenix to make their situation worse

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Guitarsoup said:

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Hard to take them that serious when they don't know we are drafting at #2.

I still think Sorber will have the better career if his foot is ok. He's a more complete center.

I can't see any way the Spurs trade up for a guy like Malauch. They will just address backup center with the MLE.

My favorite option is that Orlando has a logjam at center, money is tight, and they want to keep Mo Wagner there as the backup center with his ability to stretch the floor a little. So they trade Goga into our MLE (about 8.3M) leaving us with 5.1M in MLE left and 5.1M in BAE (which can't be combined.)

Try to get LaRavia with a 4y deal starting with the rest of the MLE and Taurean Prince with the BAE. Center with the 38th pick. Carter Bryant at 14

Wemby - Goga - Rocco (two-way)
Barnes - Sochan - LaRavia
Prince - Bryant - Keldon
Castle - Vassell - Julian
Fox - Harper - Wesley

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I like Sorber too and can see why you say that. Sorber is a better perimeter player. I know his shot is more developed than Maluach and that is a big deal to stretch the floor as a 5. But I worry about his foot. He played with explosion, I hope he regains it and his foot isn't an issue.

Maluach has agility for a big man. You can see his soccer athleticism, he also has some of the nostalgia traits of centers in the past, his huge size and length remind me of mutombo. But I think Maluach is better offensively, or can develop a good offensive game as he is pretty new to the sport but has great agility for a big guy. Maluach could really develop.

I would be ok with taking sorber around 20 or so, but at 14 it's too much a gamble with his foot,

I like Sorber and Maluach over all of the centers drafted last year. Maluach I like for the spurs, but Sorber is a close second, but with the foot injury, I would definitely take Maluach.

I'd be good with a player like Goga. I would support that, I think starting wing is a big role for Priince, especially with Harper. The problem is if we start castle at the 3, it's a small lineup, unless we have a big four and a big center or Wemby.

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Taking Sorber would obviously depend on doctor evaluations. If they give the all clear, I'm all in.

I think that Malauch will be a solid center, but I think he will be a Dereck Lively. Good rim protector, swat shots, throw down easy buckets. But I think that to be more than that, he has a ton of game skills he has to work on. I don't think he will be as good all around as Jakob is. Malauch does not have the all around skills.

And while I take the Combine tests with a grain of salt... Malacuh tested TERRIBLY. I question the soccer athleticism.

Only 7 out of 50 players had a worse max vert (30").
Only 3 out of 50 players had a worse standing vert (24").
Only 5 out of 50 players had a worse three quarter sprint (3.5 sec)
Only 4 out of 44 players had a worse shuttle run (3.44 sec)
Only 8 out of 50 players had a worse lane agility (12.05 sec)

While Dereck Lively is a nice piece to have, I'm not breaking the bank to get that. Right now, Malauch does not have any actual offensive skill set at all.

Sorber already has the game skills to work on. I still think he compares well to Atlanta-era Al Hortford. He has really nice passing, is strong, great broad shoulders and long arms. Malauch will probably be the better rim protector just by being taller, but I think Sorber will be better at literally everything else on the court.

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Prince started this year for Milwaukee and last year for the Lakers. As a secondary defender that goes and hides in the corner and waits for a shot, I'm great with him. Especially when you consider he is playing with Wemby, Barnes, Castle, and Fox. You can also go after Jake LaRavia if you want to swing on upside, but I prefer getting what we know with Prince. Ideally, you develop Carter Bryant into a Trey Murphy clone sooner than later.

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This might be the only way for Phoenix to make their situation worse

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Most threes made per game in a season:

3.1 — Victor Wembanyama
2.6 — Kevin Durant

Wemby made (and took) more threes per game this season than KD ever did. @statmuse pic.twitter.com/uPdIERkSYn

— WembyMuse (@Wemby_Muse) June 5, 2025

Well this definitely surprised me.

KD loves the mid range like he loves arguing with fans on burners

That surprised me too. I always thought KD shot daggers against us.

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Minnesota wants Durant, do they? Hear me out.

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Adam Silver would never allow the Spurs to fleece the Wolves again

Obi Wan Ginobili said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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Minnesota wants Durant, do they? Hear me out.

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Adam Silver would never allow the Spurs to fleece the Wolves again

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Silver has no room to not allow trades after allowing the Luka trade.

Chris Mannix said to keep an eye on the Spurs being a possible suitor for Jaylen Brown. That's a little underwhelming to me.

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/mannix-spurs-team-watch-closest-185044903.html

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Chris Mannix said to keep an eye on the Spurs being a possible suitor for Jaylen Brown. That's a little underwhelming to me.

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If we're going to take on a contract like that, we might as well make a move for Giannis.

Yea that is kind of my take as well. All thought it wouldn't as much for him as Giannis obviously. Two years younger too.

I think Durant would still be the best value though.

Edit: Meant as reply to West Tx.

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Chris Mannix said to keep an eye on the Spurs being a possible suitor for Jaylen Brown. That's a little underwhelming to me.

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Unless they want to trade him for Devin, Keldon and #14, I'm gonna pass.

Highest paid player in the league. Has the same number of all-nba teams as Fox.

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Enzo The Baker said:

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Chris Mannix said to keep an eye on the Spurs being a possible suitor for Jaylen Brown. That's a little underwhelming to me.

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Unless they want to trade him for Devin, Keldon and #14, I'm gonna pass.

Highest paid player in the league. Has the same number of all-nba teams as Fox.

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Meh. He's a better defender and proven champion. He's on a different level than Fox. That contract is an albatross though.

I would love J. Brown on this team.

Send the Celtics Harper, Vassell, Keldon, and change.

Fox, Brown, Castle, PF, Wemby? Yes please

Enzo The Baker said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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Enzo The Baker said:

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Chris Mannix said to keep an eye on the Spurs being a possible suitor for Jaylen Brown. That's a little underwhelming to me.

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Unless they want to trade him for Devin, Keldon and #14, I'm gonna pass.

Highest paid player in the league. Has the same number of all-nba teams as Fox.

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Meh. He's a better defender and proven champion. He's on a different level than Fox. That contract is an albatross though.

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No question he's a better player than Fox, but the contact is bad and they should feel bad. I don't want Jaylen Brown to be our highest paid player for the next half decade. I don't think that's a plan to win.

Brown turns 29 before the season starts.

If I am picking a forward for this team, taking age and contact into account, Mobley, JJJ and Franz are probably top three. Deni Avija, Herb Jones, and Camara are just below on Ellie contacts. Trey Murphy and Jalen Johnson are in a tier below with great contracts but also injury concerns.

Guys like Brown, MPJ, OG, Durant are all guys I like to different degrees, but the contact situation makes it more questionable.

Lauri's contact is so bad I don't even want him without significant draft capital.

Maluach had a 147.3 offensive rating, and a Plus 53 Net rating. His net rating is off the charts high. Coop was second at about 37 net rating in this year's draft class. With Maluach on the court, Duke averaged 1.47 points per possession.

He does a lot of the dirty work, with his size he sets an incredible on-ball screens. He also sets great off ball screens freeing up shooters at the three. He sets a ton of space for his teammates, and also has a great roll.

Maluach gets teammates open better than everyone else in this draft. Maluach is raw, but he hasn't been playing basketball that long. He has good hands and screen setting actually makes him a very solid offensive weapon.

I know Soup disagrees with me on Maluach, but watching his highlights Maluach plays like a Spur. And of course he will have a huge size advantage and be a great rim protector. He also pushes the opposing team's shots back, players don't want to shoot within 10 feet of the basket and have to float it.

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Maluach had a 147.3 offensive rating, and a Plus 53 Net rating. His net rating is off the charts high. Coop was second at about 37 net rating in this year's draft class. With Maluach on the court, Duke averaged 1.47 points per possession.

He does a lot of the dirty work, with his size he sets an incredible on-ball screens. He also sets great off ball screens freeing up shooters at the three. He sets a ton of space for his teammates, and also has a great roll.

Maluach gets teammates open better than everyone else in this draft. Maluach is raw, but he hasn't been playing basketball that long. He has good hands and screen setting actually makes him a very solid offensive weapon.

I know Soup disagrees with me on Maluach, but watching his highlights Maluach plays like a Spur. And of course he will have a huge size advantage and be a great rim protector. He also pushes the opposing team's shots back, players don't want to shoot within 10 feet of the basket and have to float it.

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He's gonna be a good rim protector.

Net Rating means jack **** when he's playing all those minutes with Cooper Flagg, Tyrese Proctor, and Kon Knueppel.

"Maluach gets teammates open better than everyone else in this draft. "

GTFO of here, brother. He averaged LESS THAN 1 assist per 36 minutes played.

He's a rim protector and rim runner. He will be good. He's not at all what we need when we can use the MLE on a guy like Kornet.

He is not a guard, so I never mentioned assists. But watch how he sets his on ball and off balls screens, and how open his teammates get. The video below that came out a few hours ago, you may strongly disagree with the guy, but if you watch the film he includes, his teammates are often open because of how wide is screens are, both on and off ball. That plus his defensive presence gives him the highest spread by far between the offensive rating and defensive rating of all players, including Coop.

No doubt his net would be lower without Coop and Knueppel, but I wouldn't go so far to say it means jack.

I am good with going with Kornet on the MLE. I know Maluach is a long shot for the Spurs.

I have to disagree with you on this one Soup. I could get into it more but I will leave it at that Just IMO.

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He is not a guard, so I never mentioned assists. But watch how he sets his on ball and off balls screens, and how open his teammates get. The video below that came out a few hours ago, you may strongly disagree with the guy, but if you watch the film he includes, his teammates are often open because of how wide is screens are, both on and off ball. That plus his defensive presence gives him the highest spread by far between the offensive rating and defensive rating of all players, including Coop.

No doubt his net would be lower without Coop and Knueppel, but I wouldn't go so far to say it means jack.

I am good with going with Kornet on the MLE. I know Maluach is a long shot for the Spurs.

I have to disagree with you on this one Soup. I could get into it more but I will leave it at that Just IMO.

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I think he will be a good player. He isn't going to be DeAndre Jordan or Tyson Chandler. Dereck Lively is a very good player that most teams could use. But I'm not going crazy to get him.

Seeing good screens is nice, but it isn't exactly the most difficult skill in the NBA and we do have Sochan that can do at a really high level it already, plus Adams or Kornet are both fantastic at it.

And you completely seem to ignore all his athletic measurements were almost as awful as Queen's.

I don't know why you keep going on and on about a guy that is going to be drafted at the latest by Toronto. If he lasts to 14 and Bryant and Fleming are off the board, I would certainly take him, but Toronto isn't passing him and I think some other teams like Chicago and Atlanta wouldn't either.

There is just no chance he plays for us next year or we even have an opportunity to draft him other than the #2 pick.

I really love VJ Edgecombe, but who cares because he will be gone 10 picks before our 2nd pick.

More defending my opinion about Maluach in the last post. As I was told to GTFO and was also told a key metric doesn't mean jacks.

Regardless Harper is the no brainer pick at 2.

I've read rumors of the Nets and Washington trying to trade up to get Harper at 2. I don't know that they have the capital or players to make that work. But those 2 teams make sense for Harper, who is from Jersey and played college ball at Rutgers which isn't known to be a mecca for college basketball but is very close to 40 miles from his hometown.

Harper could have played anywhere at one of the top schools in the country, but chose to play at a school that in 111 years, has made the tourney 8 times in its school history but was around 40 miles from his hometown. It was a package deal with Bailey, but their overall roster talent and coaching had some glaring deficiencies.

I wonder if Harper wants to come to not only come to San Antonio, but also with Fox and Castle already established in the backcourt. Rutgers had a far cry from an established backcourt. If it was up to Harper, I'd bet he would want to play on the East Coast. But its not up to him and there are a lot of advantages to come to a playoff ready team like the Spurs.

So I don't think it is outside of possibility we trade back from 2, as long as they overpay for Harper. Which a team like Washington and the Nets might try to do. But they likely don't have the assets to make it happen. Anyways, most of this will be sorted out by June 25.

The statement you made was absolutely ridiculous. I don't think anyone here thinks he was be a bust, but he's not elite at anything at all on the offensive side of the ball and that quote was not all all obvious you were just trying to defend his pick setting ability.

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The statement you made was absolutely ridiculous. I don't think anyone here thinks he was be a bust, but he's not elite at anything at all on the offensive side of the ball and that quote was not all all obvious you were just trying to defend his pick setting ability.

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lol ok Soup. You don't know everything, although sometimes you act like you do and are omniscient about all things Spurs and NBA. If someone disagrees with you, you retaliate lol.

I had two sentences in their about his screen ability, and if you would have watched the scouting clip I attached which has some pros and cons about him, you would have seen what I meant. You will also see the guy in the clip made the same exact statement.

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Guitarsoup said:

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The statement you made was absolutely ridiculous. I don't think anyone here thinks he was be a bust, but he's not elite at anything at all on the offensive side of the ball and that quote was not all all obvious you were just trying to defend his pick setting ability.

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lol ok Soup. You don't know everything, although sometimes you act like you do and are omniscient about all things Spurs and NBA. If someone disagrees with you, you retaliate lol.

I had two sentences in their about his screen ability, and if you would have watched the scouting clip I attached which has some pros and cons about him, you would have seen what I meant. You will also see the guy in the clip made the same exact statement.

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I'm not retaliating and I don't claim to know everything or be right on everything, but you certainly seem to be trying to make this personal with attacks because I disagree with your belief that Malauch is going to be a star. I know I am not always right and I own it when I am not. Hell, I am the one that starts the NBA prediction thread most years, even though I know most of the picks are probably going to be wrong. I just don't care about that at all. I prefer if we don't all have the same opinion because if we do, there is no discussion.

You posted that video after I quoted that statement. Are you just passing off that video's statements as your own? You are right, I didn't watch it, because I don't think Malauch drops below 9, and I don't think we use 2 on him. So I don't care at all about him. If he drops to 14, he would certainly be high on my list of players to draft, just as I have said many times.

But I don't get your obsession with a guy that we don't have a possibility of getting. Do you really think the Spurs are going to use multiple assets to move us up into the top ten to get a backup center to play 15mpg behind Wemby? Should we all talk about how great Cooper Flagg is going to be, too?

Setting screens does not make him a great offensive option. At all. Sochan is great at setting screens and for a while he was tops in the NBA at points per possession as a roll man last year. And right now, Sochan is pretty much a 25mpg bench forward because his offense is no where near his defense. And his ball handling and passing skills are way higher than Malauch's without question. You had a couple lines about screen setting on him, then started that new sentence and paragraph about "getting people open." I took that new paragraph and sentence as unconnected to the previous one and 'getting people open" as his vision/passing. It looked like separate thoughts the way you formatted it. If you are trying to say it is because he is a great screener, great. That's WAY WAY down the list of things I am looking for in a pick in the middle of the round, and I don't think it is necessarily the hardest one for coaches to teach. My personal value on that particular skill set as the most outstanding part of a player's offensive game is very, very low.

Those east coast media guys are so stuck on the Spurs trading away the second pick to save their beloved Celtics from cap hell.

F those clowns.

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Those east coast media guys are so stuck on the Spurs trading away the second pick to save their beloved Celtics from cap hell.

F those clowns.

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Yeah, Simmons kept doing all the worst trades for the Spurs since we got wemby, not because we would be good, but because we would be more entertaining to watch. Now because we have good assets, they think we are going after everyone that is possibly free.

Bro, we aren't mortgaging the future on Jaylen Brown.

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Guitarsoup said:

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The statement you made was absolutely ridiculous. I don't think anyone here thinks he was be a bust, but he's not elite at anything at all on the offensive side of the ball and that quote was not all all obvious you were just trying to defend his pick setting ability.

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lol ok Soup. You don't know everything, although sometimes you act like you do and are omniscient about all things Spurs and NBA. If someone disagrees with you, you retaliate lol.

I had two sentences in their about his screen ability, and if you would have watched the scouting clip I attached which has some pros and cons about him, you would have seen what I meant. You will also see the guy in the clip made the same exact statement.

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First Trump and Elon, now this.

Chris Paul on his NBA future:

“It’s with my family more than anything… I talk to my family about it. My son just turned 16. My daughter is 12. The past 6 seasons, I’ve lived without them… I want to hoop… But at the same time, I want to be dad.”pic.twitter.com/KyI4JSScfi

— Joey Linn (@joeylinn_) June 5, 2025

Lakers or Clippers?

Dont think this guy has any credibility, but passing it on anyway.

Sources: After internal discussions, the Bucks plan to trade Giannis Antetokounmpo on their terms, eyeing a rebuild centered on picks and prospects. Giannis has the Raptors, Knicks, Heat, and Spurs on his wish list — but is signaling he won’t extend elsewhere, targeting 2027 free… pic.twitter.com/qj7madg8wj

— Cris Davis (@CrisDavisReport) June 5, 2025

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Dont think this guy has any credibility, but passing it on anyway.

Sources: After internal discussions, the Bucks plan to trade Giannis Antetokounmpo on their terms, eyeing a rebuild centered on picks and prospects. Giannis has the Raptors, Knicks, Heat, and Spurs on his wish list — but is signaling he won’t extend elsewhere, targeting 2027 free… pic.twitter.com/qj7madg8wj

— Cris Davis (@CrisDavisReport) June 5, 2025

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Blowing up the team and draft assets for two years of Giannis. Nah, I think I'm good.

Edit: if true, NYK would jump on this. Too bad they gave up 5 1sts for a non all star.

Teams were 0-182 in the NBA Finals entering Thursday in this scenario 😮

Pacers are different. pic.twitter.com/6Hi4KALgxY

— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) June 6, 2025

TYRESE HALIBURTON GIVES THE PACERS THE LEAD!

GET TO ABC NOW FOR THE FINISH! pic.twitter.com/l4SPrNspGG

— NBA (@NBA) June 6, 2025

Shouldn't have guarded Hali with that bum Wallace when you have King Caruso on the court.

I would love to see Caruso win another ring... but would hate to see OKC win.

Bucks Cavs and Knicks watching OKC have to deal with the 4th quarter Pacers. pic.twitter.com/UTye9uj5rF

— Rob Perez (@WorldWideWob) June 6, 2025

Time Leading this game:

OKC: 47.97 Minutes

Pacers: 0.3 seconds pic.twitter.com/1Py9PjzP6f

— BricksCenter (@BricksCenter) June 6, 2025