flashplayer said:
Love that trade if Bane stays healthy because it probably means our Atlanta picks and swap get even juicer.
Hopefully some team gets desperate for a pg and Atlanta trades Trae Young (looking at you, Sacramento).
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Hopefully some team gets desperate for a pg and Atlanta trades Trae Young (looking at you, Sacramento).
Shams reporting that KD has no desire to be in Minnesota. Hoopshype reported that suns have been doing extensive due diligence on the appetite of other teams for Jalen Green in the event they can flip him. My money is still on Houston.
Guitarsoup said:
Read it again. They are flipping some of the assets plus Clarke for Durant.
According to the Athletic, Durant prefers to play with the Spurs.
I bet he does and that's probably why this has been strung out so long because the Spurs probably aren't budging on their offer - and that Bane trade certainly didn't help
Devin, Barnes, and 14? Brother, that was last week's offer.Enzo The Baker said:
According to the Athletic, Durant prefers to play with the Spurs.
This week it is Keldon, Barnes and 38.
What's that? The line is cutting out. I think Memphis is calling in about JJJ. Did you know his Dad won a championship with the Spurs. Gotta run. Text me about Keldon.
Durant on the Spurs is interesting and makes sense from a fit standpoint.
Fox, Durant, Wemby is more than enough offensive firepower to compete.
But ... now you're gambling on KD staying healthy and you know that your window with him is like 2 or 3 years.
If I'm the Spurs, I'm building for the 10 year window and Durant doesn't fit that at all.
We've said it before, but this is easy, take Harper at 2, take the wing you're highest on at 14, and then use the BAE and MLE to load up on backup bigs. Trust that your player development and scouting is good and build a sustainable winner
Fox, Durant, Wemby is more than enough offensive firepower to compete.
But ... now you're gambling on KD staying healthy and you know that your window with him is like 2 or 3 years.
If I'm the Spurs, I'm building for the 10 year window and Durant doesn't fit that at all.
We've said it before, but this is easy, take Harper at 2, take the wing you're highest on at 14, and then use the BAE and MLE to load up on backup bigs. Trust that your player development and scouting is good and build a sustainable winner
AggieEP said:
Durant on the Spurs is interesting and makes sense from a fit standpoint.
Fox, Durant, Wemby is more than enough offensive firepower to compete.
But ... now you're gambling on KD staying healthy and you know that your window with him is like 2 or 3 years.
If I'm the Spurs, I'm building for the 10 year window and Durant doesn't fit that at all.
We've said it before, but this is easy, take Harper at 2, take the wing you're highest on at 14, and then use the BAE and MLE to load up on backup bigs. Trust that your player development and scouting is good and build a sustainable winner
I think it's pretty clear that the Spurs and rockets aren't going to get into a bidding war for Durant and the heat don't have a good enough offer to match what the two Texas teams are offering.
KD has made it clear where he wants to play (Athletic says San Antonio is the preferred spot), so the three teams he wants have no incentive to offer much. Maybe some team gets desperate and offers a good deal on a one year rental, but Phoenix is gonna have to take something less than what they're expecting. If us or Houston was really that intent on getting KD, the deal would already be done.
Kirk Goldsberry says that the suns are continuing to ask for way too much and the conversations with Spurs aren't going well as they continue to ask for Castle or #2 (lol). Both Kirk and Lowe predict he goes to Houston.
I don't even want to give up 14 and certainly not any future picks.
And I only really want Durant if he will sign a tiny extension - nothing close to max. More like 1/2 of max.
And I only really want Durant if he will sign a tiny extension - nothing close to max. More like 1/2 of max.
Yea the more I sit with it, the less I want it to happen. I'd rather see what we can get at 14. Maybe give Vassell another chance with a full healthy year with this group.
Howabout $50ish million per year for two years (on top of this season)?Guitarsoup said:
I don't even want to give up 14 and certainly not any future picks.
And I only really want Durant if he will sign a tiny extension - nothing close to max. More like 1/2 of max.
Get Vassell used to his role of a off-ball shooter with some, but not a ton of creation plus more defensive effort with less effort on the offensive end.
At 14, I am thrilled to take Carter Bryant or Cedric Coward there. If they aren't there, I am also cool with maybe doing a trade with Utah where we slide to 21 and pick up Minnesota's 2029 first. Then at 21, look at maybe Fleming, Sorber, McNeeley, Beringer, etc.
I don't think we are favorites in the West with Durant and I don't think he settles for less than a 2y90M extension, which I would never agree to. I think max would be like 2y121M or something. I think reasonable would be 2y60M with games played/minutes played bonuses.
If we are looking at trading 14 and young role players, we should be looking to get a long term fit, not a 37yo with major injury issues.
I still think my trade idea of Barnes+Keldon for MPJ+Saric makes way more sense than anything with Durant. MPJ is over a decade younger than Durant and his bad contract ends before Wemby's extension kicks in. We just have to convince him that he is a 15-18% player instead of a 25% player. But in two years, I don't think a lot of teams are going to be offering him 25%+ contracts and he would be a really great long-term fit since he is ok on defense, rebounds, and is a really high level shooter.
Then use 14 on Coward or Bryant. You could have a long term three-forward rotation of MPJ/Coward-Bryant/Sochan/Julian and long term guard rotation of Fox/Harper/Castle/Vassell with Wemby/Kornet or whoever you get with MLE at center. That's a winning team.
At 14, I am thrilled to take Carter Bryant or Cedric Coward there. If they aren't there, I am also cool with maybe doing a trade with Utah where we slide to 21 and pick up Minnesota's 2029 first. Then at 21, look at maybe Fleming, Sorber, McNeeley, Beringer, etc.
I don't think we are favorites in the West with Durant and I don't think he settles for less than a 2y90M extension, which I would never agree to. I think max would be like 2y121M or something. I think reasonable would be 2y60M with games played/minutes played bonuses.
If we are looking at trading 14 and young role players, we should be looking to get a long term fit, not a 37yo with major injury issues.
I still think my trade idea of Barnes+Keldon for MPJ+Saric makes way more sense than anything with Durant. MPJ is over a decade younger than Durant and his bad contract ends before Wemby's extension kicks in. We just have to convince him that he is a 15-18% player instead of a 25% player. But in two years, I don't think a lot of teams are going to be offering him 25%+ contracts and he would be a really great long-term fit since he is ok on defense, rebounds, and is a really high level shooter.
Then use 14 on Coward or Bryant. You could have a long term three-forward rotation of MPJ/Coward-Bryant/Sochan/Julian and long term guard rotation of Fox/Harper/Castle/Vassell with Wemby/Kornet or whoever you get with MLE at center. That's a winning team.
That 2nd year will be when Durant is 39 and his cap hit will be 28%. That is the year Wemby's extension kicks in. That gives you Fox, Wemby, Durant taking up almost 90% of the cap. I can't be convinced that guaranteeing a 39yo Durant 28% of the cap is a prudent decision.FTAG 2000 said:Howabout $50ish million per year for two years (on top of this season)?Guitarsoup said:
I don't even want to give up 14 and certainly not any future picks.
And I only really want Durant if he will sign a tiny extension - nothing close to max. More like 1/2 of max.
Givony saying Ace Bailey is dropping to 6 on his new mock draft. So glad we got top 2 and didn't have to deal with Bailey.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45515479/2025-nba-mock-draft-59-picks-trade-talks-heat-30-teams
Gonna be the biggest bust in the draft after being mocked at 2 early. Came in short and already proving he is a headcase. We dodged a big bullet.
2. San Antonio Spurs
Dylan Harper, PG/SG, Rutgers
Freshman | TS%: 59.3
Height without shoes: 6-4 | Weight: 213
Standing reach: 8-6 | Wingspan: 6-10
Most talent evaluators consider Harper to be in a tier of his own as the draft's clear-cut second-best prospect, overriding potential concerns the Spurs might have about his imperfect backcourt fit with De'Aaron Fox and Stephon Castle, due to a distinct lack of perimeter shooting.
Rival teams attempting to engage in trade talks with the Spurs have come away with the impression it's unlikely they move down or off the pick at No. 2; it seems San Antonio is excited about the possibility of adding a talent of Harper's caliber and is willing to be patient, figuring out roster construction concerns later.
The 19-year-old's combination of size, shot-creating prowess, passing creativity, finishing skill and scoring instincts makes him the type of lead guard, offensive engine that is coveted in today's NBA, as his strong frame appears well-suited for playing through the physically demanding vigor required in the playoffs. The challenge of acquiring these types of players makes it difficult to envision the Spurs passing on the opportunity to add Harper ultimately. -- Givony
14. San Antonio Spurs (via Atlanta)
Joan Beringer, C, Cedevita Olimpija
Adriatic | TS%: 61.5
Height without shoes: 6-11 | Weight: 235
Standing reach: 9-3 | Wingspan: 7-4
The Spurs will likely explore various options with this No. 14 pick, including the possibility of adding a veteran who is more ready to contribute as the team pivots toward playoff contention. Adding frontcourt depth could also be a priority, especially if the Spurs use Victor Wembanyama as more of a power forward alongside another rim protector eventually, which would be very difficult to score against.
With his season in Slovenia finally concluded, Beringer made his way to the United States, starting in Chicago and Brooklyn, New York, where he completed his mandatory NBA combine participation. That included official measurements, which indicate he has grown an inch and a half in the past year, now standing over 7-feet in shoes, 235 pounds with a 7-4 wingspan and 9-3 standing reach, similar measurements to Jaren Jackson Jr. and Myles Turner at the same age.
The draft's best shot blocker, Beringer has flashed considerable upside all season, which has put him in lottery consideration since January. -- Givony
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I hate his Beringer pick at 14. That's fine if we trade down, but I would take Fleming or Coward over him for sure. Beringer seems like Ian Mahinmi to me - he's young, he's raw, and he's athletic. Maybe he develops into something great. Seems like a waste of a lottery pick. Seems like a solid swing in the 20s.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45515479/2025-nba-mock-draft-59-picks-trade-talks-heat-30-teams
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Bailey losing momentum after refusing to visit, initially unsatisfied with his search for a proven pathway to development.
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The feedback from his interviews at the draft combine in Chicago was not all that positive, with some teams expressing concern about his lack of preparation and focus. NBA executives say Bailey has been polarizing in internal front office conversations because of questions about his feel for the game and lack of polish, creating a wider draft range than initially anticipated.
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Bailey's predraft workout strategy has perplexed some observers, as he has yet to conduct a single known workout to date, having declined invitations from several teams within his draft range. Sources say Bailey's camp has informed interested teams that they believe he is a top-3 player in the draft, but also seeks a clear pathway to stardom, perhaps feeling comfortable that a team will trade up to get him at Nos. 3 or 4, should he drop.
Gonna be the biggest bust in the draft after being mocked at 2 early. Came in short and already proving he is a headcase. We dodged a big bullet.
2. San Antonio Spurs
Dylan Harper, PG/SG, Rutgers
Freshman | TS%: 59.3
Height without shoes: 6-4 | Weight: 213
Standing reach: 8-6 | Wingspan: 6-10
Most talent evaluators consider Harper to be in a tier of his own as the draft's clear-cut second-best prospect, overriding potential concerns the Spurs might have about his imperfect backcourt fit with De'Aaron Fox and Stephon Castle, due to a distinct lack of perimeter shooting.
Rival teams attempting to engage in trade talks with the Spurs have come away with the impression it's unlikely they move down or off the pick at No. 2; it seems San Antonio is excited about the possibility of adding a talent of Harper's caliber and is willing to be patient, figuring out roster construction concerns later.
The 19-year-old's combination of size, shot-creating prowess, passing creativity, finishing skill and scoring instincts makes him the type of lead guard, offensive engine that is coveted in today's NBA, as his strong frame appears well-suited for playing through the physically demanding vigor required in the playoffs. The challenge of acquiring these types of players makes it difficult to envision the Spurs passing on the opportunity to add Harper ultimately. -- Givony
14. San Antonio Spurs (via Atlanta)
Joan Beringer, C, Cedevita Olimpija
Adriatic | TS%: 61.5
Height without shoes: 6-11 | Weight: 235
Standing reach: 9-3 | Wingspan: 7-4
The Spurs will likely explore various options with this No. 14 pick, including the possibility of adding a veteran who is more ready to contribute as the team pivots toward playoff contention. Adding frontcourt depth could also be a priority, especially if the Spurs use Victor Wembanyama as more of a power forward alongside another rim protector eventually, which would be very difficult to score against.
With his season in Slovenia finally concluded, Beringer made his way to the United States, starting in Chicago and Brooklyn, New York, where he completed his mandatory NBA combine participation. That included official measurements, which indicate he has grown an inch and a half in the past year, now standing over 7-feet in shoes, 235 pounds with a 7-4 wingspan and 9-3 standing reach, similar measurements to Jaren Jackson Jr. and Myles Turner at the same age.
The draft's best shot blocker, Beringer has flashed considerable upside all season, which has put him in lottery consideration since January. -- Givony
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I hate his Beringer pick at 14. That's fine if we trade down, but I would take Fleming or Coward over him for sure. Beringer seems like Ian Mahinmi to me - he's young, he's raw, and he's athletic. Maybe he develops into something great. Seems like a waste of a lottery pick. Seems like a solid swing in the 20s.
Agreed, the $50 million per was the number I heard.Guitarsoup said:That 2nd year will be when Durant is 39 and his cap hit will be 28%. That is the year Wemby's extension kicks in. That gives you Fox, Wemby, Durant taking up almost 90% of the cap. I can't be convinced that guaranteeing a 39yo Durant 28% of the cap is a prudent decision.FTAG 2000 said:Howabout $50ish million per year for two years (on top of this season)?Guitarsoup said:
I don't even want to give up 14 and certainly not any future picks.
And I only really want Durant if he will sign a tiny extension - nothing close to max. More like 1/2 of max.
Granted that could be spread out over the three years or something (this coming year plus the two year extension equal $100 million, something like that).
No way Durant does that. He gets 54M next year. He isn't taking a 2y46M extension. He would rather just go to Minnesota and try to stay healthy and enter next year's FA market.FTAG 2000 said:Agreed, the $50 million per was the number I heard.Guitarsoup said:That 2nd year will be when Durant is 39 and his cap hit will be 28%. That is the year Wemby's extension kicks in. That gives you Fox, Wemby, Durant taking up almost 90% of the cap. I can't be convinced that guaranteeing a 39yo Durant 28% of the cap is a prudent decision.FTAG 2000 said:Howabout $50ish million per year for two years (on top of this season)?Guitarsoup said:
I don't even want to give up 14 and certainly not any future picks.
And I only really want Durant if he will sign a tiny extension - nothing close to max. More like 1/2 of max.
Granted that could be spread out over the three years or something (this coming year plus the two year extension equal $100 million, something like that).
From Reddit: Taking out the 7 games Harper had the flu and/or playing with sprained ankle:
Stat Full Season Healthy-Only (22 games)
PPG 19.4 -->21.1
FG% 48.4%-->51.2%
3P% 33.3%-->35.7%
RPG 4.6 -->5.1
APG 4.0 -->4.3
Stat Full Season Healthy-Only (22 games)
PPG 19.4 -->21.1
FG% 48.4%-->51.2%
3P% 33.3%-->35.7%
RPG 4.6 -->5.1
APG 4.0 -->4.3
IF… the Spurs end up with KD, the reaction will be shock at how little PHX got in return. I think their interest is lukewarm at best. Not mortgaging any kind of future for him. I think Houston is most likely destination. https://t.co/QHE4W5zH9v
— Don Harris (@DonHarris4) June 17, 2025
Man man Don!West Texan said:IF… the Spurs end up with KD, the reaction will be shock at how little PHX got in return. I think their interest is lukewarm at best. Not mortgaging any kind of future for him. I think Houston is most likely destination. https://t.co/QHE4W5zH9v
— Don Harris (@DonHarris4) June 17, 2025
That's what I am talking about.
NBA draft deal: The Indiana Pacers are trading their No. 23 pick and the rights to Mojave King to the New Orleans Pelicans for Indiana's own 2026 first-round pick back which the Pelicans had previously acquired, sources tell ESPN.
— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 17, 2025
Not earth shaking, but I always enjoy draft related trades.
Kind of weird to me. Why does Indiana want their own first next year? They aren't going to be bad.West Texan said:NBA draft deal: The Indiana Pacers are trading their No. 23 pick and the rights to Mojave King to the New Orleans Pelicans for Indiana's own 2026 first-round pick back which the Pelicans had previously acquired, sources tell ESPN.
— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 17, 2025
Not earth shaking, but I always enjoy draft related trades.
Guitarsoup said:Kind of weird to me. Why does Indiana want their own first next year? They aren't going to be bad.West Texan said:NBA draft deal: The Indiana Pacers are trading their No. 23 pick and the rights to Mojave King to the New Orleans Pelicans for Indiana's own 2026 first-round pick back which the Pelicans had previously acquired, sources tell ESPN.
— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 17, 2025
Not earth shaking, but I always enjoy draft related trades.
Do they need space for the Turner extension?
Guitarsoup said:Kind of weird to me. Why does Indiana want their own first next year? They aren't going to be bad.West Texan said:NBA draft deal: The Indiana Pacers are trading their No. 23 pick and the rights to Mojave King to the New Orleans Pelicans for Indiana's own 2026 first-round pick back which the Pelicans had previously acquired, sources tell ESPN.
— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 17, 2025
Not earth shaking, but I always enjoy draft related trades.
I think it has to do with them not really having any room for a rookie next season with their current roster, so kick that can down the road a year and keep that guaranteed contract off the books.
They only have 20M in tax space and have Turner and 3 other empty roster spots.Enzo The Baker said:Guitarsoup said:Kind of weird to me. Why does Indiana want their own first next year? They aren't going to be bad.West Texan said:NBA draft deal: The Indiana Pacers are trading their No. 23 pick and the rights to Mojave King to the New Orleans Pelicans for Indiana's own 2026 first-round pick back which the Pelicans had previously acquired, sources tell ESPN.
— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 17, 2025
Not earth shaking, but I always enjoy draft related trades.
Do they need space for the Turner extension?
Guitarsoup said:Kind of weird to me. Why does Indiana want their own first next year? They aren't going to be bad.West Texan said:NBA draft deal: The Indiana Pacers are trading their No. 23 pick and the rights to Mojave King to the New Orleans Pelicans for Indiana's own 2026 first-round pick back which the Pelicans had previously acquired, sources tell ESPN.
— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 17, 2025
Not earth shaking, but I always enjoy draft related trades.
Smart deal for Indiana. By acquiring their own first next year, the Pacers will be able to trade firsts in 2026, 2028, 2030, and 2032. Plus swaps in 27, 29 + 31
— Kevin O'Connor (@KevinOConnorNBA) June 17, 2025
Previously, they were restricted to just this year, 29 and 31 due to protections on the pick that lasted through 27. https://t.co/e29FUyPFsG
Ahh, thanks. That makes way more sense.LawHall88 said:Guitarsoup said:Kind of weird to me. Why does Indiana want their own first next year? They aren't going to be bad.West Texan said:NBA draft deal: The Indiana Pacers are trading their No. 23 pick and the rights to Mojave King to the New Orleans Pelicans for Indiana's own 2026 first-round pick back which the Pelicans had previously acquired, sources tell ESPN.
— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 17, 2025
Not earth shaking, but I always enjoy draft related trades.Smart deal for Indiana. By acquiring their own first next year, the Pacers will be able to trade firsts in 2026, 2028, 2030, and 2032. Plus swaps in 27, 29 + 31
— Kevin O'Connor (@KevinOConnorNBA) June 17, 2025
Previously, they were restricted to just this year, 29 and 31 due to protections on the pick that lasted through 27. https://t.co/e29FUyPFsG
https://www.espn.com.au/nba/story/_/id/45526277/2025-nba-draft-san-antonio-spurs-keep-no-2-pick-optionsQuote:
Trade offer No. 3: Spurs get Cam Johnson without giving up No. 2 pick
Brooklyn Nets get: Guard Malaki Branham, forward Keldon Johnson, 2025 No. 14 pick, 2029 first-round pick (top-four protected, converts to two second-round picks if not conveyed)
Spurs get: Cam Johnson, 2025 No. 27 pick
Alternatively, San Antonio could look to deal for a non-star who might better complement the team's existing talent. Johnson looks like an ideal fit. He averaged a career-high 18.8 points last season and has been a consistent 39% 3-point shooter who would space the floor as a stretch 4 alongside Wembanyama.
Swapping Keldon Johnson for Cam Johnson would have little impact on the Spurs' cap sheet and, crucially, wouldn't affect the team's ability to trade for Antetokounmpo down the road. If needed, Keldon Johnson could either be included in that deal or sent elsewhere for value, given his cap-friendly contract and skill set that works for almost any team.
This proposal offers the Nets a swap up from No. 27 to No. 14 in this year's draft -- a difference equivalent to getting a late first-rounder according to my pick value chart -- along with a lightly protected 2029 pick. San Antonio would retain its highest-value picks and swaps coming from other teams during Wembanyama's prime years. -- Pelton
I'd do this if I were the Spurs.
Meh. Cam Johnson is 29, doesn't rebound, and his defense is ok. It isn't awful, but I really like the D&3 prospects at 14.LawHall88 said:https://www.espn.com.au/nba/story/_/id/45526277/2025-nba-draft-san-antonio-spurs-keep-no-2-pick-optionsQuote:
Trade offer No. 3: Spurs get Cam Johnson without giving up No. 2 pick
Brooklyn Nets get: Guard Malaki Branham, forward Keldon Johnson, 2025 No. 14 pick, 2029 first-round pick (top-four protected, converts to two second-round picks if not conveyed)
Spurs get: Cam Johnson, 2025 No. 27 pick
Alternatively, San Antonio could look to deal for a non-star who might better complement the team's existing talent. Johnson looks like an ideal fit. He averaged a career-high 18.8 points last season and has been a consistent 39% 3-point shooter who would space the floor as a stretch 4 alongside Wembanyama.
Swapping Keldon Johnson for Cam Johnson would have little impact on the Spurs' cap sheet and, crucially, wouldn't affect the team's ability to trade for Antetokounmpo down the road. If needed, Keldon Johnson could either be included in that deal or sent elsewhere for value, given his cap-friendly contract and skill set that works for almost any team.
This proposal offers the Nets a swap up from No. 27 to No. 14 in this year's draft -- a difference equivalent to getting a late first-rounder according to my pick value chart -- along with a lightly protected 2029 pick. San Antonio would retain its highest-value picks and swaps coming from other teams during Wembanyama's prime years. -- Pelton
I'd do this if I were the Spurs.
Getting 27 may help some, especially if Fleming slides. But realistically that is Kalkbrenner.
Cam Johnson is also injury prone and has only reached 65 games one time in his career and has averaged 56games/season for his career.
I think I am lower on him than most Spurs fans.
I would just rather do Barnes+Keldon for MPJ+Saric and use 14 on Coward or Bryant and keep the 29.
I like the MPJ idea but there's no way we could do that without attaching a 1st.
I like the idea of getting one of the New Orleans wings rather than Johnson if we are talking two 1sts, even if that means getting no draft capital in return. I'm lukewarm on Johnson as well.
I like the idea of getting one of the New Orleans wings rather than Johnson if we are talking two 1sts, even if that means getting no draft capital in return. I'm lukewarm on Johnson as well.
Enzo The Baker said:
I like the MPJ idea but there's no way we could do that without attaching a 1st.
I like the idea of getting one of the New Orleans wings rather than Johnson if we are talking two 1sts, even if that means getting no draft capital in return. I'm lukewarm on Johnson as well.
My cousin who used to work for the nuggets thinks that we could actually get the mpj deal done without a first because they are struggling so much under the cap and Barnes would give them 70% of mpjs movement shooting for a year or two.
It would save them $8 million this year and Barnes would be a $19 million ending contract.
Maybe they could get some seconds, but mpj's contract is so rough that I think getting off of it without giving up any draft Capital would be a win for them
I also prefer herb or trey, but I think Bane blew that value up.
Guitarsoup said:Enzo The Baker said:
I like the MPJ idea but there's no way we could do that without attaching a 1st.
I like the idea of getting one of the New Orleans wings rather than Johnson if we are talking two 1sts, even if that means getting no draft capital in return. I'm lukewarm on Johnson as well.
My cousin who used to work for the nuggets thinks that we could actually get the mpj deal done without a first because they are struggling so much under the cap and Barnes would give them 70% of mpjs movement shooting for a year or two.
It would save them $8 million this year and Barnes would be a $19 million ending contract.
Maybe they could get some seconds, but mpj's contract is so rough that I think getting off of it without giving up any draft Capital would be a win for them
I also prefer herb or trey, but I think Bane blew that value up.
That would be interesting for sure. Yikes. Just looked at the Porter contract. Did not realize he was making $40MM a year. Maybe a heavily protected 1st?
I feel like Bane is a few tiers beyond the NOLA guys. And they are a bit redundant. And there was absolutely no one like Bane for what the Magic needed. They paid a premium for him for sure. Herb and Trey are awesome, but the spurs can find other avenues leading to 3&D players.
We should just flush any trade idea coming from east coast media markets in the trash.
No, we won't be helping out the Celtics, Nets, or anyone else up there.
No, we won't be helping out the Celtics, Nets, or anyone else up there.
Enzo The Baker said:Guitarsoup said:Enzo The Baker said:
I like the MPJ idea but there's no way we could do that without attaching a 1st.
I like the idea of getting one of the New Orleans wings rather than Johnson if we are talking two 1sts, even if that means getting no draft capital in return. I'm lukewarm on Johnson as well.
My cousin who used to work for the nuggets thinks that we could actually get the mpj deal done without a first because they are struggling so much under the cap and Barnes would give them 70% of mpjs movement shooting for a year or two.
It would save them $8 million this year and Barnes would be a $19 million ending contract.
Maybe they could get some seconds, but mpj's contract is so rough that I think getting off of it without giving up any draft Capital would be a win for them
I also prefer herb or trey, but I think Bane blew that value up.
That would be interesting for sure. Yikes. Just looked at the Porter contract. Did not realize he was making $40MM a year. Maybe a heavily protected 1st?
I feel like Bane is a few tiers beyond the NOLA guys. And they are a bit redundant. And there was absolutely no one like Bane for what the Magic needed. They paid a premium for him for sure. Herb and Trey are awesome, but the spurs can find other avenues leading to 3&D players.
Yeah I think Bane is better and it's perfect for Orlando. But do you want Bane on a max or Murphy for a little more than Devin.
I love Herb but don't trust his shooting. Upgrade to Jeremy for sure, but I think we need a guy more like mpj or Trey Murphy as an upgrade to Devin
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— JeffGSpursKENS5 (@JeffGSpursZone) June 17, 2025
Not sure who the bigger star that Shams thinks we're saving up for could be. All indications are that Giannis will stay in Milwaukee and no one else has really been made available.
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