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Would absolutely do this and call it in to the league before Nico changes his mind.

(I honestly hope we don't keep the #14 pick regardless)

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So many great prospects for us there. I'm pretty excited about that unless we can completely fleece a team on something like 14 and Keldon for Trey Murphy or something ridiculous like that.

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True, guess I'm just thinking we'll be loaded up on cheap contracts (which is good, I know) but down the road need to ship em out before they hit the next contract or make the hard decisions.

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Would absolutely do this and call it in to the league before Nico changes his mind.

(I honestly hope we don't keep the #14 pick regardless)

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So many great prospects for us there. I'm pretty excited about that unless we can completely fleece a team on something like 14 and Keldon for Trey Murphy or something ridiculous like that.

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True, guess I'm just thinking we'll be loaded up on cheap contracts (which is good, I know) but down the road need to ship em out before they hit the next contract or make the hard decisions.

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I think it's extremely unlikely that we get a deal like last year for that pick

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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45425353/potential-trades-top-2025-nba-draft-pick-cooper-flagg-dallas-mavericks

Ummmm, yes please.

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Dallas Mavericks get: 2025 No. 2 pick, 2025 No. 14 pick, 2027 Atlanta Hawks' first-rounder, return of swap rights to Mavericks' 2030 first-rounder


San Antonio Spurs get: 2025 No. 1 pick

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Nico would have to change his name and move to Siberia. Not happening.

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Agreed, not happening, especially after Luka. Regardless, even if the Luka deal didn't happen, Dallas wouldn't take that.

For any chance, you would have to include Castle and the 2nd pick. And probably the 2030 Mavs swap pick back. its too big of a pill to swallow for the Spurs.

Nico would also have to have a face transplant and likely dress trans to survive trading coop for the No 2, 14, atlanta's first rounder, and the 2030 swap rights.

Flagg feels like the better fit, but I am about 100% confident that Harper is going to be the better player long term.

That would be a death wish for Nico. Mavs fans can stomach Flagg being a bust, but if they did this and Harper was a bust? The city of Dallas would be so fast to commission a one seat SpaceX rocket to the sun

Promise..🤞🏽

— Trae Young (@TheTraeYoung) June 1, 2025

Where do you think he is getting traded to?

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Flagg feels like the better fit, but I am about 100% confident that Harper is going to be the better player long term.

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I'm not a 100%, but I do think Harper will be the better player.

But Coop will be a very good player too. To me, his frame seems a bit small for a 4. He might play wing, but I think he is more of a 4. Bird had size, so even though he wasn't quick, he had his size which helped him get off his shot. It will be harder for Coop to take someone off the dribble and score than what he did in college. I don't know that Coop will be a superstar or the #1 on a team. Dallas has Kyrie and AD, which will help Coop a ton.

As a Spurs fan, I would take Coop every day of the week over Harper, mainly positional fit and needs Spurs have.

If I was a Mavs fan, I would still take Coop. But its a lot closer and more tempting to take Harper for the Mavs.

To me there is a gap between Coop and Harper, then a larger gap between Harper and Bailey/Edgecomb. The next tier is Tre, Fears, and Knueppel, and they are not far off from BAiley/Edgecomb. Then after those three, its anybody's guess and basically a sh(*storm of hypotheticals.

GQ asked Chet Holmgren for his favorite books and they’re all coffee table books pic.twitter.com/G1MD3Ev59E

— Coach Lew (@CoachLewGrizz) June 2, 2025

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GQ asked Chet Holmgren for his favorite books and they’re all coffee table books pic.twitter.com/G1MD3Ev59E

— Coach Lew (@CoachLewGrizz) June 2, 2025

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Bill Simmons suggested we should trade number 2 for KAT.

Man, he used to not suck.

The more I think about it, the more I think we make a move for either one of Durant or Giannis. I know it's not everything, but I don't see us just watching our pick swap next year with Atlanta fall to the wayside. As rosters are constructed now, I could see that happening. Particularly as the east is even easier now.

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The more I think about it, the more I think we make a move for either one of Durant or Giannis. I know it's not everything, but I don't see us just watching our pick swap next year with Atlanta fall to the wayside. As rosters are constructed now, I could see that happening. Particularly as the east is even easier now.

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I would consider 14+Devin+Keldon for KD, but no other meaningful assets.

I think we will have a better record than Atlanta next year, even if they are in the easier East.

Gutting the roster and future assets for Giannis is just dumb.

I think we can make moves that move the needle without going drastic.


Barnes+Keldon+38 for MPJ+Saric.

MLE on Adams or Kornet

BAE on LaRavia or Taurean Prince

Min on Thomas Bryant

14 on Carter Bryant or Rasheer Fleming

Wemby/Adams or Kornet/ Thomas Bryant
MPJ/Sochan/Fleming
Prince/Keldon/Julian
Castle/Vassell/Branham
Fox/Harper/Wesley

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Enzo The Baker said:

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The more I think about it, the more I think we make a move for either one of Durant or Giannis. I know it's not everything, but I don't see us just watching our pick swap next year with Atlanta fall to the wayside. As rosters are constructed now, I could see that happening. Particularly as the east is even easier now.

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I would consider 14+Devin+Keldon for KD, but no other meaningful assets.

I think we will have a better record than Atlanta next year, even if they are in the easier East.

Gutting the roster and future assets for Giannis is just dumb.

I think we can make moves that move the needle without going drastic.


Barnes+Keldon+38 for MPJ+Saric.

MLE on Adams or Kornet

BAE on LaRavia or Taurean Prince

Min on Thomas Bryant

14 on Carter Bryant or Rasheer Fleming

Wemby/Adams or Kornet/ Thomas Bryant
MPJ/Sochan/Fleming
Prince/Keldon/Julian
Castle/Vassell/Branham
Fox/Harper/Wesley

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The should beg us for an offer like that. The only reason to include both Keldon and Kevin is the salary match.

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Guitarsoup said:

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Enzo The Baker said:

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The more I think about it, the more I think we make a move for either one of Durant or Giannis. I know it's not everything, but I don't see us just watching our pick swap next year with Atlanta fall to the wayside. As rosters are constructed now, I could see that happening. Particularly as the east is even easier now.

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I would consider 14+Devin+Keldon for KD, but no other meaningful assets.

I think we will have a better record than Atlanta next year, even if they are in the easier East.

Gutting the roster and future assets for Giannis is just dumb.

I think we can make moves that move the needle without going drastic.


Barnes+Keldon+38 for MPJ+Saric.

MLE on Adams or Kornet

BAE on LaRavia or Taurean Prince

Min on Thomas Bryant

14 on Carter Bryant or Rasheer Fleming

Wemby/Adams or Kornet/ Thomas Bryant
MPJ/Sochan/Fleming
Prince/Keldon/Julian
Castle/Vassell/Branham
Fox/Harper/Wesley

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The should beg us for an offer like that. The only reason to include both Keldon and Kevin is the salary match.

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I think it is fair both ways. They can't just move him for nothing. We get the best player. Take the 2nd out if needed, I don't put a ton of value on 2nds and don't really care about that.

I like having Keldon on the team, but you do have to match salary and MPJ makes a ton. But still like 10M less than Lauri while being a more consistent shooter, is younger, and unlike Lauri, actually has playoff experience.

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The more I think about it, the more I think we make a move for either one of Durant or Giannis. I know it's not everything, but I don't see us just watching our pick swap next year with Atlanta fall to the wayside. As rosters are constructed now, I could see that happening. Particularly as the east is even easier now.

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I wouldn't want to trade Castle and the #2 pick. But that is what it will take to get Giannis.

I don't know of many teams that are willing to pony up young players showing major upside for Giannis. Few teams have the cap space and draft capital/young talent to make a deal for Giannis.

And those few teams that do have the cap space and draft capital/young talent, seem would rather keep their picks and young talent.

Giannis, and KD even more so, is such a short window with their age that I wouldn't want to lose young talent.

Personally, I'd rather have a great team that is one of the 2 or 3 best teams in the nba for 10 years, than win a championship in a year or two and then be mediocre the next eight years.

Read that the rockets are shopping the ten pick.

If a player drops or is available at 10, would you consider a trade up?what about 8 for the nets.

I probably wouldn't. There isn't much difference between 10 and 14. The only player I might go for is maluach, know he isn't popular on this board,

And I'd have to add a player or pick to make it work.

I don't see the value. There are a number of players we could want. Malauch isn't getting past Toronto unless they make a big trade. Rumor is Malauch has a promise from them and he makes sense in a rotation with Poeltl.

Houston is trying to use 10 to get their #1 scorer. I don't think they are trying to use 10 to move down 4 spots.

I'm going to go listen to the full podcast because this cut is a bit hard to follow. Thought you would appreciate it:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKSUsUnpxRM/

Edit - It's about Kawhi leaving. Has Danny Green and LaMarcus talking about it with Stephen Jackson and Matt Barnes.

Danny himself mentioning Uncle Dennis as the reason for the split up surprisingly gave me a lot of closure on this.

Stephen Jackson just hates the Spurs so, so much.

Just because we jettisoned his ass for a broken Tmac and almost won the title.

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Stephen Jackson just hates the Spurs so, so much.

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He's never gotten over the Spurs choosing to sign Manu over him all those years ago.

Ag Natural said:

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LawHall88 said:

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Stephen Jackson just hates the Spurs so, so much.

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He's never gotten over the Spurs choosing to sign Manu over him all those years ago.

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Or choosing to play Kawhi over him in his second stint.

Jackson was a good player, he could really defend, score at multiple levels, and brought a level of toughness. But there's a reason that he bounced around a lot his whole career and never stuck anywhere.

People in Kevin Durant’s camp are eyeing San Antonio as a landing spot, per @Gambo987

(h/t @JeffGSpursZone / @Fullcourtpass ) pic.twitter.com/G7SXDVS0MO

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) June 4, 2025

For whatever this is worth.

This has been one of the most fun Spurs off seasons. We may not do much other than taking our draft picks and signing low level free agents, but the constant rumors and crazy trades have been fun as hell.

West Texan said:

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People in Kevin Durant’s camp are eyeing San Antonio as a landing spot, per @Gambo987

(h/t @JeffGSpursZone / @Fullcourtpass ) pic.twitter.com/G7SXDVS0MO

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) June 4, 2025

For whatever this is worth.

This has been one of the most fun Spurs off seasons. We may not do much other than taking our draft picks and signing low level free agents, but the constant rumors and crazy trades have been fun as hell.

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Keep seeing a lot of posts about 14, Vassell and Barnes for KD. I don't hate it. Still think a 3rd team gets involved bc that's the way things seem to go nowadays

West Texan said:

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People in Kevin Durant’s camp are eyeing San Antonio as a landing spot, per @Gambo987

(h/t @JeffGSpursZone / @Fullcourtpass ) pic.twitter.com/G7SXDVS0MO

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) June 4, 2025

For whatever this is worth.

This has been one of the most fun Spurs off seasons. We may not do much other than taking our draft picks and signing low level free agents, but the constant rumors and crazy trades have been fun as hell.

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Suns fans say Gambo One of those guys that just throws stuff around and doesn't have any actual inside information or contacts

HummingbirdSaltalamacchia said:

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West Texan said:

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People in Kevin Durant’s camp are eyeing San Antonio as a landing spot, per @Gambo987

(h/t @JeffGSpursZone / @Fullcourtpass ) pic.twitter.com/G7SXDVS0MO

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) June 4, 2025

For whatever this is worth.

This has been one of the most fun Spurs off seasons. We may not do much other than taking our draft picks and signing low level free agents, but the constant rumors and crazy trades have been fun as hell.

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Keep seeing a lot of posts about 14, Vassell and Barnes for KD. I don't hate it. Still think a 3rd team gets involved bc that's the way things seem to go nowadays

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Unless there's somehow trading Booker and Beal, there's no way they would want Devin. That's what doesn't make sense about those rumors. It makes sense from our point of view it doesn't make sense from theirs

Guitarsoup said:

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West Texan said:

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People in Kevin Durant’s camp are eyeing San Antonio as a landing spot, per @Gambo987

(h/t @JeffGSpursZone / @Fullcourtpass ) pic.twitter.com/G7SXDVS0MO

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) June 4, 2025

For whatever this is worth.

This has been one of the most fun Spurs off seasons. We may not do much other than taking our draft picks and signing low level free agents, but the constant rumors and crazy trades have been fun as hell.

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Keep seeing a lot of posts about 14, Vassell and Barnes for KD. I don't hate it. Still think a 3rd team gets involved bc that's the way things seem to go nowadays

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Unless there's somehow trading Booker and Beal, there's no way they would want Devin. That's what doesn't make sense about those rumors. It makes sense from our point of view it doesn't make sense from theirs

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I think the lottery pick and Barnes expiring contract are what would make sense about the trade for Phoenix. Devin is mostly for salary matching, but he's still young and has shown promise as a secondary scorer/creator.

For the record, I don't think we make a big trade. It's just not what the Spurs do.

West Texan said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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West Texan said:

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People in Kevin Durant’s camp are eyeing San Antonio as a landing spot, per @Gambo987

(h/t @JeffGSpursZone / @Fullcourtpass ) pic.twitter.com/G7SXDVS0MO

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) June 4, 2025

For whatever this is worth.

This has been one of the most fun Spurs off seasons. We may not do much other than taking our draft picks and signing low level free agents, but the constant rumors and crazy trades have been fun as hell.

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Keep seeing a lot of posts about 14, Vassell and Barnes for KD. I don't hate it. Still think a 3rd team gets involved bc that's the way things seem to go nowadays

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Unless there's somehow trading Booker and Beal, there's no way they would want Devin. That's what doesn't make sense about those rumors. It makes sense from our point of view it doesn't make sense from theirs

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I think the lottery pick and Barnes expiring contract are what would make sense about the trade for Phoenix. Devin is mostly for salary matching, but he's still young and has shown promise as a secondary scorer/creator.

For the record, I don't think we make a big trade. It's just not what the Spurs do.

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Yeah, but Devin has 4 years left on his deal. He's the most consequential part of it, because you got him for 4 years.

Guitarsoup said:

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West Texan said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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HummingbirdSaltalamacchia said:

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West Texan said:

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People in Kevin Durant’s camp are eyeing San Antonio as a landing spot, per @Gambo987

(h/t @JeffGSpursZone / @Fullcourtpass ) pic.twitter.com/G7SXDVS0MO

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) June 4, 2025

For whatever this is worth.

This has been one of the most fun Spurs off seasons. We may not do much other than taking our draft picks and signing low level free agents, but the constant rumors and crazy trades have been fun as hell.

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Keep seeing a lot of posts about 14, Vassell and Barnes for KD. I don't hate it. Still think a 3rd team gets involved bc that's the way things seem to go nowadays

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Unless there's somehow trading Booker and Beal, there's no way they would want Devin. That's what doesn't make sense about those rumors. It makes sense from our point of view it doesn't make sense from theirs

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I think the lottery pick and Barnes expiring contract are what would make sense about the trade for Phoenix. Devin is mostly for salary matching, but he's still young and has shown promise as a secondary scorer/creator.

For the record, I don't think we make a big trade. It's just not what the Spurs do.

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Yeah, but Devin has 4 years left on his deal. He's the most consequential part of it, because you got him for 4 years.

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Phoenix just doesn't have enough leverage to really demand a much better deal, IMO. They're gonna have to take a less than ideal contract back from any potential team they do a deal with.

West Texan said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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West Texan said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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HummingbirdSaltalamacchia said:

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West Texan said:

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People in Kevin Durant’s camp are eyeing San Antonio as a landing spot, per @Gambo987

(h/t @JeffGSpursZone / @Fullcourtpass ) pic.twitter.com/G7SXDVS0MO

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) June 4, 2025

For whatever this is worth.

This has been one of the most fun Spurs off seasons. We may not do much other than taking our draft picks and signing low level free agents, but the constant rumors and crazy trades have been fun as hell.

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Keep seeing a lot of posts about 14, Vassell and Barnes for KD. I don't hate it. Still think a 3rd team gets involved bc that's the way things seem to go nowadays

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Unless there's somehow trading Booker and Beal, there's no way they would want Devin. That's what doesn't make sense about those rumors. It makes sense from our point of view it doesn't make sense from theirs

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I think the lottery pick and Barnes expiring contract are what would make sense about the trade for Phoenix. Devin is mostly for salary matching, but he's still young and has shown promise as a secondary scorer/creator.

For the record, I don't think we make a big trade. It's just not what the Spurs do.

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Yeah, but Devin has 4 years left on his deal. He's the most consequential part of it, because you got him for 4 years.

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Phoenix just doesn't have enough leverage to really demand a much better deal, IMO. They're gonna have to take a less than ideal contract back from any potential team they do a deal with.

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It isn't even that Devin is a bad contract - they still have booker and beal. Devin doesn't do anything on that team.

They need size and they can't tank because Houston has their picks. So unless they move Booker to Houston, they have to try to win.

Guitarsoup said:

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West Texan said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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West Texan said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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West Texan said:

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People in Kevin Durant’s camp are eyeing San Antonio as a landing spot, per @Gambo987

(h/t @JeffGSpursZone / @Fullcourtpass ) pic.twitter.com/G7SXDVS0MO

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) June 4, 2025

For whatever this is worth.

This has been one of the most fun Spurs off seasons. We may not do much other than taking our draft picks and signing low level free agents, but the constant rumors and crazy trades have been fun as hell.

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Keep seeing a lot of posts about 14, Vassell and Barnes for KD. I don't hate it. Still think a 3rd team gets involved bc that's the way things seem to go nowadays

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Unless there's somehow trading Booker and Beal, there's no way they would want Devin. That's what doesn't make sense about those rumors. It makes sense from our point of view it doesn't make sense from theirs

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I think the lottery pick and Barnes expiring contract are what would make sense about the trade for Phoenix. Devin is mostly for salary matching, but he's still young and has shown promise as a secondary scorer/creator.

For the record, I don't think we make a big trade. It's just not what the Spurs do.

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Yeah, but Devin has 4 years left on his deal. He's the most consequential part of it, because you got him for 4 years.

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Phoenix just doesn't have enough leverage to really demand a much better deal, IMO. They're gonna have to take a less than ideal contract back from any potential team they do a deal with.

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It isn't even that Devin is a bad contract - they still have booker and beal. Devin doesn't do anything on that team.

They need size and they can't tank because Houston has their picks. So unless they move Booker to Houston, they have to try to win.

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Yea. Houston is in the Driver's seat for Durant. I don't think Booker is going to be made available. He was a part of the coaching selection process.

Enzo The Baker said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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West Texan said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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West Texan said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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West Texan said:

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People in Kevin Durant’s camp are eyeing San Antonio as a landing spot, per @Gambo987

(h/t @JeffGSpursZone / @Fullcourtpass ) pic.twitter.com/G7SXDVS0MO

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) June 4, 2025

For whatever this is worth.

This has been one of the most fun Spurs off seasons. We may not do much other than taking our draft picks and signing low level free agents, but the constant rumors and crazy trades have been fun as hell.

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Keep seeing a lot of posts about 14, Vassell and Barnes for KD. I don't hate it. Still think a 3rd team gets involved bc that's the way things seem to go nowadays

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Unless there's somehow trading Booker and Beal, there's no way they would want Devin. That's what doesn't make sense about those rumors. It makes sense from our point of view it doesn't make sense from theirs

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I think the lottery pick and Barnes expiring contract are what would make sense about the trade for Phoenix. Devin is mostly for salary matching, but he's still young and has shown promise as a secondary scorer/creator.

For the record, I don't think we make a big trade. It's just not what the Spurs do.

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Yeah, but Devin has 4 years left on his deal. He's the most consequential part of it, because you got him for 4 years.

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Phoenix just doesn't have enough leverage to really demand a much better deal, IMO. They're gonna have to take a less than ideal contract back from any potential team they do a deal with.

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It isn't even that Devin is a bad contract - they still have booker and beal. Devin doesn't do anything on that team.

They need size and they can't tank because Houston has their picks. So unless they move Booker to Houston, they have to try to win.

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Yea. Houston is in the Driver's seat for Durant. I don't think Booker is going to be made available. He was a part of the coaching selection process.

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I would think Houston's offer would be #10, Jalen Green, and whatever salary filler they need to make it work.

If we're talking about Vassell not making sense for Phoenix because they have Booker and Beal, Green doesn't exactly fit in either. He's also going to be owed $30 million plus for the next 3 seasons, so it's not like he's on a great contract. Like I said, Phoenix just doesn't have enough leverage to really force the issue to get a more favorable deal.

Athlon posted an article today about the Spurs having interest in Maluach. What may be the second biggest error in the article is they have us drafting at 4 and 14.

As I've posted before, I am a Maluach supporter. I posted about trading up from 14 yesterday to 10 to get Maluach if he is available and it doesn't cost us too much. I think he is one of the best centers to be drafted in the last decade, which other than Wemby really isn't saying a whole lot.

But I have to think this article is wishful thinking. I don't see the Spurs throwing an extra first rounder or a player to go from 14 to drafting Maluach.

On a side note, I also saw Maluach was mocked at the 4th pick by Bleacher Report. That seems high too, but he really is one of my favorite players in this draft.

https://athlonsports.com/college/duke-blue-devils/spurs-cooper-flagg-duke-khaman-maluach-nba-draft