Enzo The Baker said:

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J Kyle Mann (ringer) said he has heard the Spurs are interested in sorber.

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As long as his medicals are great, I think he is a pretty safe bet.

I've been higher than consensus on him for a long time and think as long as his foot is good, he's the best center in the class.

He doesn't come across as super smart in his interview, but seems like a good kid.



He said people have been telling him he's comparable to young Al Hortford, which is funny, because that is the comparison I have made for months. But he said "I need to go watching some Youtube videos" because I dont think he is familiar with Al's game in Atlanta. He turns 20 on Christmas. Al left Atlanta when he was about 10.

New mock draft just dropped, including a mocked trade within this version involving the Sixers: https://t.co/zWwjop5TtX

— Kevin O'Connor (@KevinOConnorNBA) June 12, 2025

Has us picking Coward at 14, which is be totally ok with.

West Texan said:

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New mock draft just dropped, including a mocked trade within this version involving the Sixers: https://t.co/zWwjop5TtX

— Kevin O'Connor (@KevinOConnorNBA) June 12, 2025

Has us picking Coward at 14, which is be totally ok with.

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Mock trade: Sixers send the third pick and Kelly Oubre (player option) to the Pelicans for the seventh pick, a 2026 Pacers 1st (top-4 protected) and Herb Jones

This honestly makes no sense to me. Trade away Herb to get dumber version of Trey Murphy in Ace Bailey and the PACERS? 1st next year? NOLA just got rid of Brandon Ingram, why get another bad middie shot taker and give away your best defensive player when your defense already sucks and add Oubre, who plays no defense.

That does not seem like a Joe Dumars pick at all.

Cedric Cowrard is great for me as well. He's a step below Carter Bryant, but most have Bryant going before we pick. The big question is will his game translate since he didnt play high level competition.

His interview:




KOC also has us taking Bogoljub Markovic, who has been a guy I have been huge on for a long time. Problem is he is more of a PF. I still like Rocco b/c we need a center, but Bogo is a way better prospect.

Markovi is a modern stretch forward who also offers skill as a passer and post scorer. But to handle the rigors of the NBA and become a positive defender, he needs to add a ton of muscle. Maybe he'd go down as the next great second-round international steal in San Antonio.


STRENGTHS

Shooting: Good 3-point shooter with a high release. He made 39.4% of his catch-and-shoot 3s, per Synergy.

Post scoring: Extremely skilled post scorer who has ambidextrous touch using either hand.

Passing: Keeps the ball moving within the flow of the offense, showing skills in the short roll and from the post.

Defensive upside: He has quickness and size, so in time he could become a versatile defender. And even though he needs to get stronger, he competes his butt off making rotations and rebounding.

CONCERNS

Strength: Thin frame limits him on defense. He gets overpowered in the paint and when containing perimeter players. Also not an impactful rebounder.

Ball-handling: He gets too loose with his handle, which leads to turnovers.

He's playing for Nikola Topic's old team in the Adriatic league and putting up 14/7/3 on 55/39 shooting.
https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Bogoljub-Markovic/Summary/182945

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6411513/2025/06/12/nba-mock-draft-2025-cooper-flagg-dylan-harper-vj-edgecombe/

Athletic also has us taking Coward at 14. Bryant goes at 11 to Portland. Portland is scary with Camara, Deni, and Bryant. Then Sorber to OKC at 15. Essengue at 17 to Minnesota. Fleming to Phoenix at 29.

Cedric Coward | 6-5 wing | 21 years old | Washington State
I've been saying that Coward would be the clear riser in this draft class since early April, and that seems to have borne itself out throughout the process. Though he committed to Duke this spring after entering the transfer portal, it felt exceedingly unlikely he was going to pull out of the draft given his tools and shot-making ability. His balance and fluidity are special for a player who is nearly 6-6 with a 7-2 wingspan. Everything in the kinetic chain with Coward is perfect. Everything is in one motion and clean with the jumper, with easy, repeatable mechanics to pair with touch. He seems to have added some explosiveness, too.
The Spurs could use more wings to pair with their cache of guards and Wembanyama, particularly ones who can really shoot it. The one thing that has been noted to me by league sources throughout the league is that San Antonio could move this pick if its preferred targets aren't on the board. The Spurs could take a similar approach as last year, when they traded the No. 8 pick for draft capital down the road. One of my favorite ideas is for the Spurs to trade this pick to New Orleans for some of the Milwaukee Bucks' draft capital over the next two years in case Antetokounmpo becomes available in a deal in the next 12 months.


38. San Antonio Spurs: Alex Toohey | 6-7 wing/forward | 21 years old | Sydney Kings

Meh. A wing that shot 45/31 this year? GTFO, Sam.

Rocco picked at 39. Bogoljub Markovic at 42.

Just chiming in to say thanks to all of you posting here. My ability to keep up with the Spurs/NBA has diminished a good bit this past year. I have come to rely on this thread greatly even though I don't post much. I appreciate hearing y'all's takes on everything and sharing the rumor mill.

Mike Sotto of Hoopshype says the sixers have engaged the Spurs about moving up from 3 to 2. They don't have anything we would want. No thanks.

Enzo The Baker said:

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Mike Sotto of Hoopshype says the sixers have engaged the Spurs about moving up from 3 to 2. They don't have anything we would want. No thanks.

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Yeah, not a chance. If NOLA wants to do Herb+Trey+7 for Barnes+Keldon+2, I'm listening. Maybe Deni+Camara+11 for Keldon+2 with Portland.


If Philly wants to trade #3 + 2028 Clippers unprotected 1st + 2029 Spurs get best of Clippers+Philly Swap in a Swap + 2030 Philly Unprotected 1st + 2032 Philly unprotected 1st, then trade the #3+Keldon+Barnes for Herb+Trey+7, then I am in. But I am greedy AF.

If you trade Harper, you have to get an absolute warchest.

The Don weighs in

They are not. Spurs are taking Harper. Period.

— Don Harris (@DonHarris4) June 12, 2025

I wouldn't be surprised at all if we go draft and stash at 38 like we did last year with the Spanish PG.

Guitarsoup said:

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The Don weighs in

They are not. Spurs are taking Harper. Period.

— Don Harris (@DonHarris4) June 12, 2025

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What list of players (regardless of them realistically being available) would you even consider trading #2 for? Given our current roster, off the top of my head: SGA, Ant, Luka, Tatum before he got injured, Mobley, Banchero. And all of those guys would take pretty much all of our resources to get. I just don't think there's a deal out there that will be good enough for us to trade away #2.

West Texan said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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The Don weighs in

They are not. Spurs are taking Harper. Period.

— Don Harris (@DonHarris4) June 12, 2025

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What list of players (regardless of them realistically being available) would you even consider trading #2 for? Given our current roster, off the top of my head: SGA, Ant, Luka, Tatum before he got injured, Mobley, Banchero. And all of those guys would take pretty much all of our resources to get. I just don't think there's a deal out there that will be good enough for us to trade away #2.

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The problem is the long term salary implications of everything. I want a Godfather offer to move down to 3 and have it contingent on another offer because I am not big on Bailey. Joe Dumars apparently wants Bailey for some reason.

So these two deals contingent on each other:

#2 to Philly. Spurs receive:

* #3
* 2028 Clippers unprotected 1st
* 2029 Unprotected Swap - Spurs receive best of Clippers, 76ers, Spurs
* 2030 76ers unprotected 1st
* 2032 76ers unprotected 1st

Then we flip #3 to New Orleans.

Barnes+Keldon+3 for

* #7
* Trey Murphy
* Herb Jones
* 2032 unprotected swap

Then at 7, we talk to Portland (11th) or Toronto (9th) about trading back. Have the option of taking Fears, Malauch, or Carter Bryant there. Then at 14, Sorber or Essengue.

Sign Kornet with MLE
LaRavia with BAE
Someone like Thomas Bryant with veteran deal

C: Wemby - Kornet - Bryant
F: Herb - Sochan - Essengue
W: Murphy - LaRavia - Julian
G: Castle - Vassell - Branham
P: Fox - Fears - Wesley

Future picks:

2026: Hawks Swap
2027: Hawks
2028: Clippers 1st, Best of Spurs or Celtics
2029: Best of Clippers, 76ers, Spurs
2030: 76ers; Best of Spurs, Mavs, Wolves
2031: Best of Spurs or Kings
2032: 76ers, Best of Spurs or Pelicans

Don't care if it isn't realistic. Luka for AD and a 1st wasn't realistic. If I have the best assets in a trade and I like my asset, I am gonna fleece them.



If we bring in a 30% or 35% max guy, we have 90-95% of the cap going to Fox, Vic and whatever Max guy we bring in in two years. Can't do that. That's why I like the idea of doing high level forwards on good contracts and picks to stay flexible.

Guitarsoup said:

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West Texan said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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The Don weighs in

They are not. Spurs are taking Harper. Period.

— Don Harris (@DonHarris4) June 12, 2025

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What list of players (regardless of them realistically being available) would you even consider trading #2 for? Given our current roster, off the top of my head: SGA, Ant, Luka, Tatum before he got injured, Mobley, Banchero. And all of those guys would take pretty much all of our resources to get. I just don't think there's a deal out there that will be good enough for us to trade away #2.

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The problem is the long term salary implications of everything. I want a Godfather offer to move down to 3 and have it contingent on another offer because I am not big on Bailey. Joe Dumars apparently wants Bailey for some reason.

So these two deals contingent on each other:

#2 to Philly. Spurs receive:

* #3
* 2028 Clippers unprotected 1st
* 2029 Unprotected Swap - Spurs receive best of Clippers, 76ers, Spurs
* 2030 76ers unprotected 1st
* 2032 76ers unprotected 1st

Then we flip #3 to New Orleans.

Barnes+Keldon+3 for

* #7
* Trey Murphy
* Herb Jones
* 2032 unprotected swap

Then at 7, we talk to Portland (11th) or Toronto (9th) about trading back. Have the option of taking Fears, Malauch, or Carter Bryant there. Then at 14, Sorber or Essengue.

Sign Kornet with MLE
LaRavia with BAE
Someone like Thomas Bryant with veteran deal

C: Wemby - Kornet - Bryant
F: Herb - Sochan - Essengue
W: Murphy - LaRavia - Julian
G: Castle - Vassell - Branham
P: Fox - Fears - Wesley

Future picks:

2026: Hawks Swap
2027: Hawks
2028: Clippers 1st, Best of Spurs or Celtics
2029: Best of Clippers, 76ers, Spurs
2030: 76ers; Best of Spurs, Mavs, Wolves
2031: Best of Spurs or Kings
2032: 76ers, Best of Spurs or Pelicans

Don't care if it isn't realistic. Luka for AD and a 1st wasn't realistic. If I have the best assets in a trade and I like my asset, I am gonna fleece them.



If we bring in a 30% or 35% max guy, we have 90-95% of the cap going to Fox, Vic and whatever Max guy we bring in in two years. Can't do that. That's why I like the idea of doing high level forwards on good contracts and picks to stay flexible.

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It's these kind of shenanigans that remind me of playing a Madden franchise on the ol Playstation. Keep shuffling down the draft board to get prime value for your pick(s) if you dont like the offerings at your pick. Someone's gonna pay the price you're asking.

Exactly. You end up with like 3 firsts every single year.

I cued it up, but at about 1:01:00 BS and Lowe talk about Durant trades.

Lowe says maybe he would offer Durant a 2y60M deal for an extension.

The Spurs are expected to hire Corliss Williamson as an assistant coach on new head coach Mitch Johnson’s staff, league sources tell @TheSteinLine.

Williamson played for four NBA teams after being drafted out of Arkansas and spent the past two seasons on Minnesota’s bench.

— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) June 13, 2025

Interesting choice. Has coached under Mike Malone, Frank Vogel, and Chris Finch. Guess we couldn't steal Sean Sweeney from Dallas.

Pop wanted some Big Nasty?

Shams confirming Spurs are out on Durant

The latest on the Phoenix Suns' trade conversations around Kevin Durant for NBA Today: pic.twitter.com/kKULU59bos

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 12, 2025

How do you gather that from that clip?

Enzo The Baker said:

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How do you gather that from that clip?

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Think I posted the wrong clip, will try to look it up in a minute. It was Shams on PatMcAfee

A Kevin Durant trade could happen in the next few days, with the Heat, Timberwolves, and Rockets emerging as finalists, per @ShamsCharania

(Via @PatMcAfeeShow ) pic.twitter.com/nAcK3QW1m6

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) June 13, 2025

Here, starts at about 47s

"I think a Kevin Durant trade could happen in the next few days..

In the last 24 hours the focus has been on the Rockets, the Heat, and the Minnesota Timberwolves" ~ @ShamsCharania #PMSLive pic.twitter.com/3vWd4QI8Sh

— Pat McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) June 13, 2025

Could very well be the case that these other teams upped the ante and the Spurs said they were out and unwilling to blow it up for a 37yr old Durant. But after all the talk about the Spurs being the odds on favorite for the past couple of weeks, with many even going as far as to say it was a foregone conclusion, this seems more like a strategic leak from Phoenix to try and get SA to up their offer. Honestly, I'm cool either way. Would much rather use 14 and contracts to get a upgrade that fits the timeline better

HummingbirdSaltalamacchia said:

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Could very well be the case that these other teams upped the ante and the Spurs said they were out and unwilling to blow it up for a 37yr old Durant. But after all the talk about the Spurs being the odds on favorite for the past couple of weeks, with many even going as far as to say it was a foregone conclusion, this seems more like a strategic leak from Phoenix to try and get SA to up their offer. Honestly, I'm cool either way. Would much rather use 14 and contracts to get a upgrade that fits the timeline better

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Maybe, but I don't think they want Vassell and I can't see us giving up Sochan or anyone else in the young core.

Getting Jabari or Wiggins or Randle makes more sense.

Yea. I'm not convinced that this means the Spurs are definitively out. But I agree, walk the hell away if it becomes too expensive.

It never made sense that SA was the favorite once it was leaked that Ishbia was determined to basically get a package similar to what they gave to get Durant. The Spurs wouldn't be that dumb.

I am just firmly on the side of: "If we are using useful assets such as young players and 1st round picks, we should use them on long term fits, UNLESS we think we are that one player away from being a contender/favorite for a title or titles (i.e. Nazr Mohammed)"

Ag Natural said:

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It never made sense that SA was the favorite once it was leaked that Ishbia was determined to basically get a package similar to what they gave to get Durant. The Spurs wouldn't be that dumb.

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I don't think anyone would be that dumb. Ishbia is delusional.

They probably asked for Castle or #2 pick. Good on ya Mr. Wright

AA said:

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They probably asked for Castle or #2 pick. Good on ya Mr. Wright

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Yeah, that was never going to happen. If it was 27yo Durant, it's a different story.

Durant was the McDonalds game MVP before Harper was born.

Ulm’s Noa Essengue’s anthro measurements from his abbreviated 2025 NBA Draft Combine make-up activities (cm converted, rounded to nearest ¼"):

6’10” barefoot, 203.9 lbs with a 7’0 ¾" wingspan, 9’1 ¾" standing reach, and 9” x 10 ¾" hands pic.twitter.com/uy03UIAIUp

— Jon Chepkevich (@JonChep) June 13, 2025

Wingspan isn't overly impressive because he has pretty narrow shoulders. That' 9'1" standing reach is very impressive. More than Rasheer Fleming (7'6" wingspan), Danny Wolf, Thomas Sorber, and one quarter inch less than Maxime Raynaud.

Ulm’s Ben Saraf’s anthro measurements from his abbreviated 2025 NBA Draft Combine make-up activities (rounded to nearest ¼"):

6’6” barefoot, 199 lbs with a 6’8 ¾" wingspan, 8’4” standing reach, and 8” x 9 ½" hands pic.twitter.com/obnl3F0g6M

— Jon Chepkevich (@JonChep) June 13, 2025

He can't shoot yet, but I love his game. Probably gets drafted in the 20s. Jewish Ginobili is his game style.

The Pelicans’ alleged asking price for Trey Murphy III:

• One veteran who can contribute in the playoffs
• One young prospect with potential
• Multiple first-round picks

(Via @DoingItDodson / h/t @Fullcourtpass ) pic.twitter.com/4OhjZl9ZFT

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) June 13, 2025

Keldon Johnson, Malaki Branham, 14 and the 2029 1st. Done deal.

Guitarsoup said:

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The Pelicans’ alleged asking price for Trey Murphy III:

• One veteran who can contribute in the playoffs
• One young prospect with potential
• Multiple first-round picks

(Via @DoingItDodson / h/t @Fullcourtpass ) pic.twitter.com/4OhjZl9ZFT

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) June 13, 2025

Keldon Johnson, Malaki Branham, 14 and the 2029 1st. Done deal.

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This made me laugh.

Enzo The Baker said:

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Guitarsoup said:

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The Pelicans’ alleged asking price for Trey Murphy III:

• One veteran who can contribute in the playoffs
• One young prospect with potential
• Multiple first-round picks

(Via @DoingItDodson / h/t @Fullcourtpass ) pic.twitter.com/4OhjZl9ZFT

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) June 13, 2025

Keldon Johnson, Malaki Branham, 14 and the 2029 1st. Done deal.

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This made me laugh.

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Let's be real, the only playoffs the Pelicans need to worry about is the NBA Cup.