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10:24p, 7/31/25
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So, how do you feel about the trade moves? Astros add bats, while Rangers add pitching.

I think both are risky. Astros need pitchers from the IL to come back and perform. Rangers need their bats to maintain the recent heater.
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In reply to Marvin • 11:02p, 7/31/25
Marvin said:
So, how do you feel about the trade moves? Astros add bats, while Rangers add pitching.

I think both are risky. Astros need pitchers from the IL to come back and perform. Rangers need their bats to maintain the recent heater.


We are about to take a 4 game sweep at Seattle. Might score 3 runs all weekend.
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11:15p, 7/31/25
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Why didn't yall address the offense? Did CY speak to the media?
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 8:18a, 8/1/25
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Why didn't yall address the offense? Did CY speak to the media?

Maybe CY is being stubborn and feels the position players under contract are good enough to win games. If that's it, I agree with him. In some cases, since we are strong defensively, any replacement in the lineup would negatively affect our defense. We've been solid offensively over the last month.

I'm of course overreacting to 1 loss to George Kirby, who would be first ballot HOF if he only pitched vs. Texas. Vlad Sr. and Langeliers have similar success.
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8:25a, 8/1/25
So who gets traded in the offseason? Paredes, Pena, or Correa? Pena to LF?
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In reply to South Platte • 8:40a, 8/1/25
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South Platte said:
So who gets traded in the offseason? Paredes, Pena, or Correa? Pena to LF?


I'd imagine they try to work Paredes at 2B in the offseason. He's played 67 games at second
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In reply to South Platte • 10:33a, 8/1/25
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South Platte said:
So who gets traded in the offseason? Paredes, Pena, or Correa? Pena to LF?

None.

They'll figure it out. My guess is they'll teach Paredes to play LF and move Jose back to 2B full time. Or Paredes becomes more of a "utility" (3B/1B/DH). Based on Walker's lack of success thus far, I don't think anyone would be opposed to getting him out of the lineup a little.
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In reply to South Platte • 10:39a, 8/1/25
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South Platte said:
Farmer1906 said:
Why didn't yall address the offense? Did CY speak to the media?

Maybe CY is being stubborn and feels the position players under contract are good enough to win games. If that's it, I agree with him. In some cases, since we are strong defensively, any replacement in the lineup would negatively affect our defense. We've been solid offensively over the last month.

I'm of course overreacting to 1 loss to George Kirby, who would be first ballot HOF if he only pitched vs. Texas. Vlad Sr. and Langeliers have similar success.

Kirby usually has our number, but we finally caught up with him this year. Still his ERA against us is 2.44
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In reply to South Platte • 10:40a, 8/1/25
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South Platte said:
So who gets traded in the offseason? Paredes, Pena, or Correa? Pena to LF?

Move Correa to 2nd. Get rid of Rodgers sorry butt.
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In reply to South Platte • 10:54a, 8/1/25
South Platte said:
Marvin said:
So, how do you feel about the trade moves? Astros add bats, while Rangers add pitching.

I think both are risky. Astros need pitchers from the IL to come back and perform. Rangers need their bats to maintain the recent heater.


We are about to take a 4 game sweep at Seattle. Might score 3 runs all weekend.

Other than it would be funny, not even 'Stros fans want this to happen. We're hoping for a split between Arlington and the Mermen.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 11:00a, 8/1/25
Farmer1906 said:
South Platte said:
So who gets traded in the offseason? Paredes, Pena, or Correa? Pena to LF?

None.

They'll figure it out. My guess is they'll teach Paredes to play LF and move Jose back to 2B full time. Or Paredes becomes more of a "utility" (3B/1B/DH). Based on Walker's lack of success thus far, I don't think anyone would be opposed to getting him out of the lineup a little.

It looks to me like Paredes is the best player of those 3.

Does Houston still make this trade if the guy is not named Carlos Correa? The trade appears to be heavily slanted toward intangibles.
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In reply to South Platte • 11:19a, 8/1/25
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South Platte said:
Farmer1906 said:
South Platte said:
So who gets traded in the offseason? Paredes, Pena, or Correa? Pena to LF?

None.

They'll figure it out. My guess is they'll teach Paredes to play LF and move Jose back to 2B full time. Or Paredes becomes more of a "utility" (3B/1B/DH). Based on Walker's lack of success thus far, I don't think anyone would be opposed to getting him out of the lineup a little.

It looks to me like Paredes is the best player of those 3.

Does Houston still make this trade if the guy is not named Carlos Correa? The trade appears to be heavily slanted toward intangibles.


Correa is still only 30. So the idea is he's good for the next 2-3 years. When healthy he's an all star and he's always been good in the postseason (even in Minnesota for the 2023 ALDS he killed us). We have missed his leadership in the clubhouse and I think at least for this year it's a huge shot of adrenaline to the team.

Beyond this year… I have no idea how it'll play out. I'd say Pena is the best of the 3 right now just because his ceiling and he's in a career year right now pre-rib injury.

I'd imagine for 2026 Pena and Correa will be full time infield with Paredes either going 2B, 1B or DH (also given Correa's injury history don't rule out a return to 3B if Carlos goes to the IL). Plus they are saying it could be a longer injury recovery time for Paredes and he will likely need to be eased into 2026.

Also to answer your question: 100% this move was made because it's Correa. I think if Paredes is healthy it probably doesn't get done, but that also doesn't mean it'll be a bad move. 60 games of a healthy Correa in a pennant chase is never a bad thing
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In reply to South Platte • 11:33a, 8/1/25
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South Platte said:
Farmer1906 said:
South Platte said:
So who gets traded in the offseason? Paredes, Pena, or Correa? Pena to LF?

None.

They'll figure it out. My guess is they'll teach Paredes to play LF and move Jose back to 2B full time. Or Paredes becomes more of a "utility" (3B/1B/DH). Based on Walker's lack of success thus far, I don't think anyone would be opposed to getting him out of the lineup a little.

It looks to me like Paredes is the best player of those 3.

Does Houston still make this trade if the guy is not named Carlos Correa? The trade appears to be heavily slanted toward intangibles.

As long as Paredes is playing somewhere like Houston, where his swing fits, he's going to put up #s. However, he's a step behind Pena and likely Correa defensively. I don't think he has the body type to be a good 2B. Playing LF in Houston is one of the easier positions in baseball. But he has played some 1B before too.

It was a very unique position for Houston to be in. Correa wanted to come back. Minny was willing to give him back with a reasonable contract. It's 3.5 years for 71 M for his age 30, 31, 32, and 33 seasons. Fangraphs has his fWAR projections at 2.1 in '25, 3.0 in '26, 2.4 in '27, and let's just say 1.5 in '28. That's 9 WAR and 8 M per WAR and we're at 72 M. Right in line with fair market value.

If I am looking at #s alone, we're getting an avg hitter with slightly above average batted ball #s. He has a strong history (155 wRC+ last year, 125 wRC+ career). Defensively he's shown some decline, but projects well to 3B. We've seen this happen fairly regularly in baseball history.

If I am looking at things outside of his #s, the pot gets sweetened. Houston legend. October beast. Clubhouse leader.

Back to your question, does Houston trade for him if his name is Charles Connor? Maybe. Paredes left a huge hole at 3B and we needed to fix it.
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