No big deal, I know your posting habits well enough to know you were simply pointing out how my post came across. I actually tend to land on your side in many of the inevitable culture war arguments that break out on F13, because I honestly believe I'm somewhere middle of the road in today's society...meaning that I can spot and acknowledge when intentional DEI/woke/progressive/whatever decisions are made by entertainers (and sometimes it is frustrating to me personally), but I also don't let it be the deciding factor in whether I consume that entertainment.

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Also isn't she like 42? No one in antiquity is fighting over some broad who already hit the wall.

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Yeah, I'm old myself now, so I'm afraid most of my choices if choosing from black actresses are too old for the role... like Jurnee Smollett and Gugu Mbatha-Raw

Helen of Troy is the offspring of a woman, Leda, and Zeus disguised as a goose. Leda produced an egg and 4 children were hatched: Helen, Clymnestra, Castor, and Pollux.

So anyone claiming to know what that woman looks like has no idea what they are talking about.

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Q: Why is Christopher Nolan like many other directors so keen to race swap white characters?
A: Quotas and awards. pic.twitter.com/vYc4bH1wOy

— Alice Smith (@TheAliceSmith) May 12, 2026

I could see this being the reason, by all means go win the award just know you pissed a great opportunity for an actual great movie. He's had box office successes so now he may be chasing what he doesn't have, the awards. I honestly think there needs to be a best picture for the most successful box office film in a given year. It awards who brought the largest audience to theaters.

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Hmmmmmm....I wonder why she didn't copy and paste the four requirements (with only of 2 of them needed to be met)?

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Q: Why is Christopher Nolan like many other directors so keen to race swap white characters?
A: Quotas and awards. pic.twitter.com/vYc4bH1wOy

— Alice Smith (@TheAliceSmith) May 12, 2026

I could see this being the reason, by all means go win the award just know you pissed a great opportunity for an actual great movie. He's had box office successes so now he may be chasing what he doesn't have, the awards. I honestly think there needs to be a best picture for the most successful box office film in a given year. It awards who brought the largest audience to theaters.

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Telling how that tweet purposefully leaves out the part where diversity quotas don't have to be met for the cast as long as they're met in some way for the crew and creative roles. I'm not saying I agree with diversity quotas - I don't - I'm just saying it's WAY easier to qualify than certain people make it out to be. Like, the bar is incredibly low. To that end, again, you're completely ignoring the Oppenheimer point I brought up earlier, a movie that features one of the whitest casts of the century, yet still won Best Picture.

Beat me to it.

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Also isn't she like 42? No one in antiquity is fighting over some broad who already hit the wall.

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I'm in antiquity and I would.

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Sea Speed said:

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Also isn't she like 42? No one in antiquity is fighting over some broad who already hit the wall.

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I'm in antiquity and I would.

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42 year-old woman from antiquity would look like a 60 year-old woman from modern day.

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Still in.

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Sea Speed said:

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Also isn't she like 42? No one in antiquity is fighting over some broad who already hit the wall.

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I'm in antiquity and I would.

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42 year-old woman from antiquity would look like a 60 year-old woman from modern day.

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Also no one is going to war over a woman who isn't gonna be birthing them any kids.

If they really want to drive the box office, they should give everyone who pre-orders tickets a 6-ounce bottle of Troy McClure's personal fragrance - Smellin' of Troy

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Helen of Troy is the offspring of a woman, Leda, and Zeus disguised as a goose. Leda produced an egg and 4 children were hatched: Helen, Clymnestra, Castor, and Pollux.

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Ask your doctor if Clymnestra is right for you.

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more of this kind of post and less of the previous 2 pages

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Or he just hired actors he wanted to work with, like he always does.

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Elliot Page? Sure, because he's worked with her/him begore. But Elliot Page as Achilles (if true) isn't simply "I like Elliot and she/he seems like the perfect fit for Achilles."

Lupita Nyongo? He's never worked with her before, and casting her as Helen of Troy (confirmed) in The Odyssey is a choice that's as far from obvious as it gets.

Don't be intentionally obtuse or naive just to avoid admitting that Hollywood leads the way in employing a DEI mindset when hiring.

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It's not Achilles, it's the ghost of Achilles. Huge difference, and it's a minor part of the story.

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is the "ghost" of Achilles seen after we see the actual Achilles?

and it's two different actors?

because if not, your point is meaningless.

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I'm afraid most of my choices if choosing from black actresses are too old for the role... like Jurnee Smollett and Gugu Mbatha-Raw

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Your choice of black actresses is interesting because they are both half white. But they are nice choices.
I'm more in the Halle Berry and Jasmine Guy camp.