pathetic thread

Smells like farts in here

Grain of salt, etc., but from one article about this…

I miss Kraig Ferguson and Craig Kilborn

On this we can agree.

Equinox said:

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TCTTS said:

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Tell me you have nothing left to say without telling me you have nothing left to say.

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Impossible

DannyDuberstein said:

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I just know that if this continues, we're quickly going to run out of unfunny hacks who turned the industry behemoth of late night comedy into unfunny nightly political propaganda. What will we ever do….other
than have networks stop bleeding tens of millions of dollars

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It was amazing to me how long he was on the air. Who in the world wastes their life watching this crap?

Also crazy to think this hack used to host a show called the man show.

I'm glad someone finally brought up the example of the Biden administration exerting pressure behind the scenes on all of the big tech companies during COVID. They absolutely did what the Trump FCC was threatening to do to CBS (Colbert firing) and now ABC (Kimmel). The hypocritical performative ranting against tyranny that's coming out of Hollywood now is laughable.

And we can all acknowledge that a Democratic government doesn't need to stick its hand into Showbiz to get the ideological result they want, because the majority of Hollywood leans left already. They police their own without any prodding from a Democratic administration. Just ask Gina Corano.

In either case its 100% wrong for the government to get involved. And in both cases the "side" who was doing the censoring were totally fine with it, which is very disturbing. There's no "side" in this argument who is totally innocent.

The FCC can pull a TV license primarily for violating regulations, such as broadcasting obscene material, failing to serve the public interest, or committing deliberate news distortion with evidence of intentional falsification.

The BS Kimmel spouted was known to be false the moment he spoke it.

Never been a cleaner kill then this.

The point is that is very vague open-ended wording ("deliberate news distortion"?) that can be interpreted however the administration in charge wants to interpret it.

So we should be advocating for our government to pull back from this tit-for-tat that its devolved into (both this administration and previous ones). Not dive headfirst even further into it. The political tables will eventually turn (again).

If TCTTLGPTQ doesn't like it, you know it's good

FL_Ag1998 said:

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The point is that is very vague open-ended wording ("deliberate news distortion"?) that can be interpreted however the administration in charge wants to interpret it.

So we should be advocating for our government to pull back from this tit-for-tat that its devolved into (both this administration and previous ones). Not dive headfirst even further into it. The political tables will eventually turn (again).

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Not really. The word "deliberate" is a legal term used in many laws. Hell, the phrase "deliberate indifference" is a legal standard defined by the Supreme Court.

I really prefer his show just get canceled, because it sucks.

I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

This is not about "snowflakes". It's about applying the standard of the left on themselves. The notion that conservatives should accept getting canceled over and over and not do it back out of fear being called a "snowflake" is ridiculous.

In fact, conservatives were cancelled for speaking the TRUTH (like how trans "men" are not really men) while liberals are getting canceled for celebrating assassinations and lying blatantly on FCC regulated air waves.

The two are not in the same sport, never mind ballpark.

fig96 said:

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Grain of salt, etc., but from one article about this…

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Lmao... yea that sounds legit


Kimmel is off the air bc his show sucks & his ratings are trash



If conservatives wanted to cancel him they would point to his blackface segments from the past which are some strange immortal sin for liberals even though they are the ones that all did blackface

We have a president , policies aside, who is barely cognizant of truth vs lies. He throws around ideas, numbers, figures, and statements every day that are wildly wrong when fact checked.

Should politicians on both sides be cancelled at this point that go on FCC air waves and constantly lie to the public? We hold a comedian to a higher standard than them?

Three words….

Beep, boop, beep….

Yeah…screw Kimmel

Mr.Milkshake said:

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If TCTTLGPTQ doesn't like it, you know it's good

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Good one. This is only, like, the thousandth time this joke has been made on this board.

Madmarttigan said:

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We have a president , policies aside, who is barely cognizant of truth vs lies. He throws around ideas, numbers, figures, and statements every day that are wildly wrong when fact checked.

Should politicians on both sides be cancelled at this point that go on FCC air waves and constantly lie to the public? We hold a comedian to a higher standard than them?

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A) Nobody lies more than the democratic party and leftists in general.

B) Politicians are not the one's licensed by the FCC. Broadcasters are. Kimmel was an employee of one of those broadcasters who broadcasted his lies over FCC regulated airwaves.

They kept full access because everyone raised absolute hell about the lone, non-leftist news org losing access.

I don't have a problem with Trump shaking up who is in the pool at this point because the media landscape has evolved beyond the traditional media brands of whom 99% are Democrat propaganda outlets. It needed to be done to ensure balance in reporting.

Regarding the FCC going after Kimmel, that one seems a stretch on its surface, but I don't really know the FCCs scope and jurisdiction all that well so refraining an opinion.

Does this terrible argument ever get old? The "I'm rubber and you're glue", argument is so incredibly weak. The poster calls out Trump for constantly lying and fabricating numbers and your response is, well the libs are bigger liars so I am going to avoid your point about Trump all together.

ABC was probably planning on canceling him for a while bc his show sucks. They are using this as a means to deflect and not acknowledge they let a hack continue on for way too long.


I miss Johny Carson.

This honestly feels like a win-win for ABC. They get to boot a poorly watched Kimmel and put the blame on government pressure. If Kimmel is cleaning up in the ratings, guarantee they are not letting the show go without a fight.

And personally I think Kimmel has had some great bits over the years. Handsome Men's Club, Mean Tweets, ****ing Matt Damon/Ben Affleck, Knife Guys. Think he lost focus of the prime directive…bring the funny.

Isn't f13 the place where the firing of Gina Carano and Sage Steele were celebrated by those who now claim to be apalled by poor Jimmy's self-inflicted fate?

I'd be happy to dig up old posts.

I didn't watch Kimmel but he (or anyone) shouldn't go down due to government pressure. He should go down due to poor ratings. That's capitalism. That's America. This is wrong.

I think it's kind of performative for everyone involved:
1. Kimmel probably suspects he's not getting renewed, so felt free to wade into the discussion with a charged statement. What does he have to lose?
2. Nexstar doesn't appear to have a ton of ABC affiliates, and those they aren't really in huge markets. They probably aren't getting a ton out of Kimmel relative to the cost, and used this as an easy excuse to dump him while polishing their Middle America bona fides.
3. ABC probably isn't getting their money's worth out of Kimmel, and used Nexstar and the FCC as an easy out to get him of the air.
4. The Trump administration wants to shift the cultural Overton window and is happy to jump (or pounce, if you will) on any bone-headed statement coming from anyone on the left. I don't think much of a potential FCC investigation of Kimmel (unless there's a Federal Comedy Commission I don't know about investigating him for posing as a comedian), but I also tend to filter out some of the dumber and/or more bombastic claims of this administration.
5. People on the left can use this as a measure of the right's hypocrisy on cancel culture, and people on the right can do the same in reverse.

Ultimately, the whole thing is kabuki theater with no real purpose. TV will probably get a little better, but the national discourse remains mired in stupid pantomime on both sides of the aisle.

TCTTS said:

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You really believe that the United States government should be able to "warn" media companies (in this case, threaten to revoke their broadcast license) when they don't like the speech being aired? Because I'm genuinely curious how you can possibly square that with the first amended, conservative values, small government, etc?

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Don't think I said that or anything close to it.

I said he did throw out a warning. I didn't say I supported it. But it was just talk.

I think it was a business decision anyway and the warning was just opportunistic grandstanding.

Politicians and their appointed minions are mouthpieces for both sides. I don't think pulling a license based on that comment especially would be warranted or would actually happen.

TCTTS said:

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So government censorship of speech is allowed as long as they don't censor all speech. Got it.

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Government censorship of speech ON GOVERNMENT LICENSED NETWORKS HAS ALWAYS EXISTED.

HTH.

Literally no one here is upset that Kimmel got fired.

For like the 800th time, we're expressing concern that our GOVERNMENT blatantly threatened Kimmel's EMPLOYER to do something about him.

Dig up old posts all you want, this isn't the same situation. Biden's FCC chair didn't publicly declare that there would be consequences if Disney didn't do something about Gina Carano.

At this point in the thread you have to be willfully ignorant to not understand the issue/difference.

Madmarttigan said:

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

Captain Winky said:

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Does this terrible argument ever get old? The "I'm rubber and you're glue", argument is so incredibly weak. The poster calls out Trump for constantly lying and fabricating numbers and your response is, well the libs are bigger liars so I am going to avoid your point about Trump all together.

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Trump can definitely be a blowhard and loose with numbers. However, he is not even in the same universe as the systemic, entrenched lying and corruptness that is the Democrat party. We had an MSM landscape (outside of 1 outlet) who ran a campaign of disinformation and gas lighting, in conjunction with the WH, about the mental and physical health of a sitting POTUS.

A Democrat WH that colluded with Big Tech to silence people on the right and spread disinformation about COVID.

Democrats who literally conjured up fake information and twice impeached a sitting POTUS over it.

There are so many examples of double standards and hypocrisy by the left that it's almost infinite.

So, you will have to forgive the rest of us when we call them out and sometimes forget to be fair and balanced when doing so. We realize the expectation on conservatives is that we are required to point out both sides when arguing while the left is free to ignore their own side doing anything wrong according to their playbooks - 1984, Rules for Radicals, Cloward-Piven, Bezmenov's Ideological Subversion, etc.

Captain Winky said:

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Does this terrible argument ever get old? The "I'm rubber and you're glue", argument is so incredibly weak. The poster calls out Trump for constantly lying and fabricating numbers and your response is, well the libs are bigger liars so I am going to avoid your point about Trump all together.

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Talking about "avoiding points". You totally avoided part B which was the crux of the entire post.

How hypocritical.


And BTW, I bash Trump all the time. I just find it funny that he chose THAT example when the the democrats are far more guilty of it.

suburban cowboy said:

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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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You know Democratic politicians and their families have been attacked in recent months, right?

Claude! said:

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I think it's kind of performative for everyone involved:
1. Kimmel probably suspects he's not getting renewed, so felt free to wade into the discussion with a charged statement. What does he have to lose?
2. Nexstar doesn't appear to have a ton of ABC affiliates, and those they aren't really in huge markets. They probably aren't getting a ton out of Kimmel relative to the cost, and used this as an easy excuse to dump him while polishing their Middle America bona fides.
3. ABC probably isn't getting their money's worth out of Kimmel, and used Nexstar and the FCC as an easy out to get him of the air.
4. The Trump administration wants to shift the cultural Overton window and is happy to jump (or pounce, if you will) on any bone-headed statement coming from anyone on the left. I don't think much of a potential FCC investigation of Kimmel (unless there's a Federal Comedy Commission I don't know about investigating him for posing as a comedian), but I also tend to filter out some of the dumber and/or more bombastic claims of this administration.
5. People on the left can use this as a measure of the right's hypocrisy on cancel culture, and people on the right can do the same in reverse.

Ultimately, the whole thing is kabuki theater with no real purpose. TV will probably get a little better, but the national discourse remains mired in stupid pantomime on both sides of the aisle.

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Looks like they have 32ish, compared to 40 for Sinclair (#2 & #1). Together they're 30% of the ABC market so I wouldn't say it's an inconsequential portfolio.

Nexstar is also trying to buy a company called Tegna for $6.2 billion so that will require approval from the F.C.C. This is all sounding pretty familiar.