Totally agree that many hosts/comedians are one sided and it's dumb, anyone should be fair game. And I have no problem with a network choosing to fire someone if it's their decision.

But that said, it's very clear no matter what you believe that this admin is exerting direct pressure on the media to influence what they cover and who they employ and that's very concerning. And it's very concerning the other way as well.

Someone posted the Chris Hayes comments earlier and that's a great example. I think Tucker Carlton is an idiot, but I'll defend his right to say whatever he wants to say.

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No one seems to want to address something I've mentioned a couple times…did Kimmel truly "lie"?

I don't particularly like the guy and didnt watch his show, but I really don't think he did anything more than say something that some people inferred one meaning into when he (I think) intended something else

It seems more likely the cancellation was due to political pressure/gaining favor than an actual threat of losing their license.

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I don't think it mattered. What he did say offended enough people that they complained and Sinclair was dropping him and that forced the network to cancel the show. Kimmel getting fired was the market responding to what he said. He earned the cancellation all by himself.

Having said that, based on the FCC rules in laid out in my post, they had every right to get involved. It just so happened, the market took care of Kimmel on its own at the same time.

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Again, totally fine if they decide there's audience/market pressure to fire him. But that's not the key issue in this.

Did he actually lie? I was ready for "oh geez what stuoid thing did he say" then watched the clip and was like "that's it?"

His statement may have been in bad taste depending on your perspective, but it's ambiguous at best.

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I agree with the liberals on this thread. Kimmel had every right to continue to lose his parent company 10s of millions of dollars per year on an entertainment format that is going extinct. This is clearly government fascism.

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The ability to completely miss the point is impressive.

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lol far left

Y'all need to get out more.

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Pot meet kettle

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I've got my share of church friends and family who are insanely conservative so I'm quite familiar with that side of the discussion, thanks.

Thinking the views that I or most others espouse here are "far left" is laughable.

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Equating church friends and family with far right without any other criteria involved is certainly a choice that doesn't support the post you're responding to at all.

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Where did I call anyone far right?

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Seems clear both of you were attempting to talk about extremists, otherwise I don't know the point of either of your statements. When exactly did you transition to people more towards the center of the spectrum? Also what does "insanely conservative" mean in your mind? The word "insane" is not usually a word I see as an adjective to describe more moderate position holders. I'm not likely to describe Coleman Hughes as "insanely liberal" despite the fact that we are going to have extremely few overlapping positions.

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No one seems to want to address something I've mentioned a couple times…did Kimmel truly "lie"?

I don't particularly like the guy and didnt watch his show, but I really don't think he did anything more than say something that some people inferred one meaning into when he (I think) intended something else

It seems more likely the cancellation was due to political pressure/gaining favor than an actual threat of losing their license.

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I'll go back to what I said earlier. I bet we find out his show was losing money and in a completely fractured entertainment market where he was catering to only half the country that wasn't going to get them out of that hole, ever. Thus, he gave his masters some cover to pre-empt his likely eventual retirement ahead of his contract ending.

So, whether or not he lied will ultimately be irrelevant.

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"Ultimately being irrelevant" is, in this context, irrelevant.

There was an FCC threat that appears flimsy at best, and that's setting a dangerous precedent.

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100%. The whole argument that ABC was going to fire him anyway ignores the larger issue. But we'll just keep throwing "whataboutisms" back and forth while we cede more control to leadership every day. All part of the plan.

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But that said, it's very clear no matter what you believe that this admin is exerting direct pressure on the media to influence what they cover and who they employ and that's very concerning. And it's very concerning the other way as well.

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The greater concern was the media exterting pressure and power to influence the public on said leader and others from his side of the aisle for many many many years under the mask of 'impartial news' and 'comedy'. They pushed the same one-sided narratives for years, many of which were simply false..because they knew they could get away with it under their legacy media brand...and the casual public would just assume that's how things were. Then when someone finally challenged them on it, they bowed up and doubled down.

I have no sympathy for the legacy networks. They made their choices. They do not have the public's interests at heart. They chose to follow their own agenda that wasn't driven by truth. They didn't care. If they can make money and ratings doing it, fine. But I won't feel the least bit sorry for them when it backfires. They're not victims here.

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MSNBC’s Chris Hayes on Kimmel getting fired: This renders the First Amendment meaningless.

Chris Hayes on Tucker getting fired: He believed he could say anything no matter how disgusting and get away with it. Over time, that’s not going to work out well for you. pic.twitter.com/KOdROGvseE

— Western Lensman (@WesternLensman) September 18, 2025

FCC Chairman Brendan Carr weighs in after ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel off the airwaves

"Broadcasters are different from any other form of communication, including here on cable right now. Fox News doesn’t have an FCC license, CNN doesn’t, but ABC, CBS, and NBC—those broadcast… pic.twitter.com/RjATnjPzEC

— Sean Hannity 🇺🇸 (@seanhannity) September 18, 2025

To all of those crying about Jimmy Kimmel's show getting pulled off the air indefinitely...

FCC Rule 47 CFR §73.1217 — Broadcast hoaxes.

What the Rule Says:

It prohibits broadcast licensees (TV and radio) from knowingly airing false information about a crime or catastrophe if:… pic.twitter.com/LeHWXcLh2s

— ZNO 🇺🇸 (@therealZNO) September 18, 2025

These posts show some of the left's hypocrisy, clearly explains the FCC position, and then lays out the actual law. The networks were well within their rights and even obligation to cancel Kimmel. He thought he was bulletproof and found out otherwise.

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Sorry, but what specifically that Kimmel said was lying about a crime? When he spoke we had no idea about the background of the suspect who was already in custody. Kimmel was speaking about the attacks by the right on "the left" as a group following the murder without any knowledge about the motivations of the killer. That's not a lie. That's not causing harm to a criminal investigation. This is such pathetic deliberate misuse of a statute to go after someone Trump doesn't like. I could point to Sinclair stations which were required to run Boris Epshteyn bits on broadcast network television. You don't think there was a single thing he said that wasn't a lie? Did the FCC threaten to revoke the license of any Sinclair station for running it?

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No one seems to want to address something I've mentioned a couple times…did Kimmel truly "lie"?

I don't particularly like the guy and didnt watch his show, but I really don't think he did anything more than say something that some people inferred one meaning into when he (I think) intended something else

It seems more likely the cancellation was due to political pressure/gaining favor than an actual threat of losing their license.

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I'll go back to what I said earlier. I bet we find out his show was losing money and in a completely fractured entertainment market where he was catering to only half the country that wasn't going to get them out of that hole, ever. Thus, he gave his masters some cover to pre-empt his likely eventual retirement ahead of his contract ending.

So, whether or not he lied will ultimately be irrelevant.

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"Ultimately being irrelevant" is, in this context, irrelevant.

There was an FCC threat that appears flimsy at best, and that's setting a dangerous precedent.

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100%. The whole argument that ABC was going to fire him anyway ignores the larger issue. But we'll just keep throwing "whataboutisms" back and forth while we cede more control to leadership every day. All part of the plan.

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The federal government has been power grabbing for decades and few people give a **** beyond the times they perceive "their side" as a target. Their use of the media and social media as mouthpieces and as a weapon to silent dissidents is not a new phenomena. The people defending it now will mostly cry about it and those decrying it now will mostly be silent about it in the future when it's flipped. People are stupid, tribalistic animals.

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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what happened to Melissa Hortman?

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You mean the lady killed by the guy appointed by a democrat governor, reappointed by Tim Waltz, had No Kings flyers in his car, and wrote in his confession that Tim Waltz instructed him to do it? I don't think this is rhe MAGA man you think he is.

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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what happened to Melissa Hortman?

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You mean the lady killed by the guy appointed by a democrat governor, reappointed by Tim Waltz, had No Kings flyers in his car, and wrote in his confession that Tim Waltz instructed him to do it? I don't think this is rhe MAGA man you think he is.

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So, he was killing Democrats and had a hit list of only Democrats, had long railed against abortion and gay rights, and had voted for Trump. But because he had flyers in his car (which could easily have been so that he could go attack those gatherings) we must ignore all other evidence and say he was on the left.

Also, the argument that he was appointed to a dog-and-pony show council and thus must be a Democrat is beyond ridiculous. I guess since Robert Gates served as Obama's SECDEF for a few years he must actually be a left wing radical. It NEVER happens that governors appoint people from the opposing party. And given that Minnesota doesn't have partisan registration, the governor would never have known his political affiliation without seeking it out.

The left stands up for trannies, pedos, murderers, illegal aliens, terrorists, murder of babies, to name a few. All of which erode and detract from the moral fabric of our culture.

They gaslight, demonize their political opponents by calling them Nazis / Fascists, weaponize the justice system, and call white supremacists the biggest threats to Democracy.

And ultimately they plot to kill their enemies and celebrate it openly when it happens.

Kimmel is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to FAFO. Your game is over lefties and we aren't going to tolerate your evil.

This is certainly an interesting set of words placed together that would be better suited for the uniquely right wing board, otherwise known as F16.

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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what happened to Melissa Hortman?

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That guy is likely a paranoid schizophrenic. He thinks he was trained by the US military and taking orders from Walz so he could run for Klobuchar's Senate seat.

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"You are fishing and I can't talk about my case…I'll say it didn't involve either the Trump stuff or pro life," Vance Boelter wrote this week from a cell inside Sherburne County Jail in Elk River, about 30 miles northwest of Minneapolis.

"I am pro-life personaly [sic] but it wasn't those," he said, using the jail's internal messaging system. "I will just say there is a lot of information that will come out in future that people will look at and judge for themselves that goes back 24 months before the 14th. If the gov ever let's [sic] it get out."

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Boelter harped on a handwritten, one-and-a-half page letter left in an abandoned SUV at the crime scene that was addressed to FBI Director Kash Patel, saying critical elements were kept from the public.

"Can I ask what you heard as an outside person about the note that the alleged person I'll say alleged person left in that car, did you hear anything about that?" demanded Boelter, who was wearing a yellow, jail-issued jumpsuit, and spoke with a thick Minnesotan accent.

In the letter, which has not been released publicly, Boelter reportedly claimed he had been secretly trained by the US Military and was asked by Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz to perform the killings, so that the 2024 Democratic vice presidential candidate could run for Minnesota Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar's seat.

"Certain details of that letter were leaked out that probably painted one kind of a picture, but a lot more important details that were in that letter were not leaked out," Boelter said during the second televisit Friday, refusing to elaborate, only saying the details pertained to "things that were going on in Minnesota."

"I also made sure when I was arrested that they secured that letter I made the request that they secure that letter before it gets destroyed because I was concerned somebody would destroy it," said Boelter, who has grown a salt and pepper goatee since his arrest.

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https://nypost.com/2025/07/12/world-news/accused-killer-vance-boelter-hints-at-motive-in-post-jailhouse-interview/

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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what happened to Melissa Hortman?

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You mean the lady killed by the guy appointed by a democrat governor, reappointed by Tim Waltz, had No Kings flyers in his car, and wrote in his confession that Tim Waltz instructed him to do it? I don't think this is rhe MAGA man you think he is.

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Of course, nobody REALLY thinks Tim Waltz instructed him to do it. But that and the rest shows this is more a case of a guy being nuttier than squirl poop, than a case of "conservative violence"?

You're gonna be shocked to read the thread and find out that most don't especially care that he was fired or not.

But who am I kidding, you're not gonna read the thread.

Maybe. But often what happens in polarized environments is that poorly adjusted individuals steeped in the hatred and grievances of "their side" decide to act out. I don't think anyone has claimed this guy represented all Republicans or that the right should be expelled from television and universities because of this.

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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what happened to Melissa Hortman?

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You mean the lady killed by the guy appointed by a democrat governor, reappointed by Tim Waltz, had No Kings flyers in his car, and wrote in his confession that Tim Waltz instructed him to do it? I don't think this is rhe MAGA man you think he is.

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Of course, nobody REALLY thinks Tim Waltz instructed him to do it. But that and the rest shows this is more a case of a guy being nuttier than squirl poop, than a case of "conservative violence"?

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He had a hit list of 45 Democrats. Yes, he was a conservative and he might have been insane (or trying to make a case for court). The two are not separate.

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You're gonna be shocked to read the thread and find out that most don't especially care that he was fired or not.

But who am I kidding, you're not gonna read the thread.

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I read the thread.

All of what I said rings true and is absolutely relevant to this thread.

American people are exhausted from the one sided hatred and that's ultimately why Kimmel is getting fired.

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You're gonna be shocked to read the thread and find out that most don't especially care that he was fired or not.

But who am I kidding, you're not gonna read the thread.

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I read the thread.

All of what I said rings true and is absolutely relevant to this thread.

American people are exhausted from the one sided hatred and that's ultimately why Kimmel is getting fired.

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"One sided hatred." Buddy, take some time and try to read what you wrote earlier from any perspective other than a hard right fanatic and tell me if you can detect a hint of hatred?

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You're gonna be shocked to read the thread and find out that most don't especially care that he was fired or not.

But who am I kidding, you're not gonna read the thread.

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I read the thread.

All of what I said rings true and is absolutely relevant to this thread.

American people are exhausted from the one sided hatred and that's ultimately why Kimmel is getting fired.

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So then you saw that 90% of us don't care that he got fired or not but are concerned about the government overreach/pressure aspect, as well as to whether or not what he said was actually a lie?

But please continue ranting cause you're totally changing hearts and minds here.

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You're gonna be shocked to read the thread and find out that most don't especially care that he was fired or not.

But who am I kidding, you're not gonna read the thread.

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I read the thread.

All of what I said rings true and is absolutely relevant to this thread.

American people are exhausted from the one sided hatred and that's ultimately why Kimmel is getting fired.

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You're delusional if you truly believe it's one sided

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And we can all acknowledge that a Democratic government doesn't need to stick its hand into Showbiz to get the ideological result they want, because the majority of Hollywood leans left already. They police their own without any prodding from a Democratic administration.

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I don't think this can be stated enough. It's not a level playing field. Republicans have to be more public; Democrats just make quiet calls behind the scenes.

Having said that, why didn't Bob Iger fight back? He's a big-time lib with a lot of muscle; he could stand up for Kimmel if he wanted.

The Nexstar/Tegna merger isn't his fight. I don't pretend to understand the dynamics there, but it seems on the surface that ABC would prefer to have more affiliate owners with less individual power than one major one.

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Republicans need to use the power of the state to make their beliefs dominate in the culture? You understand why this might be concerning?

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Maybe. But often what happens in polarized environments is that poorly adjusted individuals steeped in the hatred and grievances of "their side" decide to act out. I don't think anyone has claimed this guy represented all Republicans or that the right should be expelled from television and universities because of this.

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One side hasn't spent the last 10 years calling the other "fascist" and "literally Hitler" and "a threat to democracy."

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Maybe. But often what happens in polarized environments is that poorly adjusted individuals steeped in the hatred and grievances of "their side" decide to act out. I don't think anyone has claimed this guy represented all Republicans or that the right should be expelled from television and universities because of this.

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One side hasn't spent the last 10 years calling the other "fascist" and "literally Hitler" and "a threat to democracy."

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Do you not actually read what the right says about the left? The idea that the right isn't engaged in this kind of rhetoric is insane.

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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You know Democratic politicians and their families have been attacked in recent months, right?

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You're trying to talk sense to complete and utter delusion. To them...

- the conservatives who attempted to kidnap and execute Gretchen Whitmer (for which they are now in jail)...

- the conservative who attempted to kill Nancy Pelosi's husband (for which he is now in jail)...

- the conversation who killed Melissa Hortman and her husband (for which he is now in jail)...

... etc, etc, etc don't exist (all of which were verified as politically motivated, btw). Because their existence would ruin not just these people's ridiculously hypocritical and reductive takes, but often their entire identities (Libs evil! Conservatives good!).

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It's not even comparable. The left is FAR more violent than the right.

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Lol

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/17/justice-department-study-far-right-extremist-violence

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The US justice department has scrubbed a study from its website concluding that far-right extremists have killed far more Americans than any other domestic terrorist group, just days after a gunman fatally shot the prominent conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

The report, now archived, titled What NIJ Research Tells Us About Domestic Terrorism, vanished from the Department of Justice website between 11 and 12 September, according to Jason Paladino, an independent investigative reporter who first wrote the story. Kirk, the 31-year-old Turning Point USA founder and Trump ally, was gunned down while speaking at Utah Valley University on 10 September.

The vanished study opened with: "Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives. In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives."

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I guess the ministry of truth got to it.

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That study was bogus for the same reason as the ADLs. Broad definition of "right" narrow definition of "left", etc.

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You're a clown

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I'm not the guy saying clownish things. You people are.

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I will give you one thing. You never tire of being shown to be wrong over and over again.

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As evident by you resorting to "retorts" like "You're a clown", it's clear who was actually proven wrong.

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Always the conservative/right tactic. Don't provide actual evidence. Just wedge in enough doubt using anecdotes to satisfy your own sense of reality.

Feel free to provide a study showing there's more violence on the left.

Your own criteria for why the findings of that study are false are only convincing you and others that desperately want that to be the case.

Just like the people that believe autism is caused by vaccines but can't ever put up proof.