Sapper Redux said:
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If modern Judiasms, who cut themselves off from Christ, and have a history of Baal worship, cannot be declared under the influence of satan than what do these words satanic and anti-Semitic even mean?
History of Baal worship? Antisemitism is hatred of Jews. Claiming they are Satanic idolaters could certainly toe a fine line.
Have you even read the Old Testament? Do you understand that Israel struggled so hard with worshipping Baal over YHWH that when Elijah despaired, God told Elijah there is a faithful remnant of '7000 that have never bowed to Baal' (1st Kings 19). 7000. Thats it. The whole story of Israel is that they cannot stop disobeying God and that is the faithful sliver keeping in obedience.
Do you understand how demon worship worked pre-Christ? That humans would sacrifice to these gods and receive power and wealth in this world. Demons were happy to turn sacrifices into transactions. Most of Israel was happy to be given access to the sins they wanted to partake in. Solomon himself provided a pagan prayer when dedicating the temple and then during his life put a statue of Apollo outside of it.
This is central to the story of Israel and the Messiah.
1) Christ is adamant that Israel needs a new heart that loves God, not just another teacher. They had enough teachers of the law and still couldn't turn to God. This is the holy spirit that helps humans turn to God.
2) When Christ came into this world we start to see the defanging of demon gods. Satan is fully kicked out of the presence of God through the counsel. He is cut off. Christ when he was in hades took 90% of the demons and locked them in abyss. And the idols quickly stopped working. We know this through the account of pagans saying, 'this no longer works what gives?'
3) The Baal worship never went away. A super majority of Israel never could put down the idols and walk a narrow path. They were always interested in the Baals undersell of money, sex, power over God's commands to be holy. We see a consolidation in Satan's power under his direct name starting after Christ's resurrection because the idols stop working. Its not Baal the storm God bringing crops anymore. Its Satan and demons demanding abominations directly in his name for you to get what you want. The people at the top know who they are actually dealing with. The laity might not.
4) Judiasm post Christ is slowly but surely cut off. The ribbon on the day of atonement stays red. The temple falls. The prophecies stop. The hard headed who refused to believe Christ is who he is now gets power from Satan, happy to fully jump in. This is why you see a ton of jewish overlap into mysticism and communing with spirits through kabbalism. Those are demons. 'Samuel out front shoulda told ya'
Is any of this anti-semetic? No.
Do jews like to howl at the first critique of judiasm and call it anti-semetic? Yes.
Do I hate jews? Of course not. We are called to love one another and forgive one another. I don't delight in anyone's evil though. And I don't consider condoning what I see is evil as an expression of love.
And this is the rub of anti-semitism. You can't even bring up basic issues in judiasm theology without it being anti-semetic. Nobody here is laughing about obviously anti-semetic tropes like endorsing that person who threw a brick through a bagel owner's window.
