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It's just amazing how fast MAGA flipped from "Epstein didn't kill himself" to "the whole thing is a hoax, and the records must never be released."

They love Trump so much they will even protect the act of sexual abuse against children. Very sad.

I imagine there are a tiny few for whom this was a breaking point, but I've not encountered a single person IRL or in my social media feeds who has changed views over this. Their worship knows no limits. We see what a true cult looks like.

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Vehemently disagree. Much of even die hard MAGA are regular hard working good folks. There are already and will be many more who do a full 180 on Trump if the truth ever comes out.

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What is the truth that may come out?

Anyone that votes against Massie's effort should be primaried.

Also for those mad about Gloria Allred:

If she was in the crowd, I’m not aware of it, but she definitely did not speak at our press conference. Perhaps you’re thinking of another event, not the one on Capitol Hill ?

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) September 3, 2025

It looks like Matt Walsh is working over time to protect someone. It's weird how people have been clamoring for Epstein disclosure and now they are completely freaking out about it.

Victims are coming out and naming names, this is where the administration needs a serious game plane, this is just the beginning.

Are we sure Allred wasn't there? She has part of a presser with many of the same people just a short time after Massie and his show.

If you think what Massie is doing is anything other than a stunt, then I pity you. The only thing missing from stunt was some singing.

Massie, empty swamp rat suit trying to cling on to the vapors his short but unmemorable political career.

What they did yesterday felt forced, produced, overly political. That cheapens any question for justice they seek, it does not strengthen it.

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Victims are coming out and naming names, this is where the administration needs a serious game plane, this is just the beginning.

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Good, as long as those are the names of people who are guilty.

Which names have been released?

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What they did yesterday felt forced, produced, overly political. That cheapens any question for justice they seek, it does not strengthen it.

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You're right, that cheapens it, about like calling it a hoax and hostile act.

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Are we sure Allred wasn't there? She has part of a presser with many of the same people just a short time after Massie and his show.

If you think what Massie is doing is anything other than a stunt, then I pity you. The only thing missing from stunt was some singing.

Massie, empty swamp rat suit trying to cling on to the vapors his short but unmemorable political career.

What they did yesterday felt forced, produced, overly political. That cheapens any question for justice they seek, it does not strengthen it.

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She probably was there since she reps some of the victims, but she didn't speak at the presser.

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It's just amazing how fast MAGA flipped from "Epstein didn't kill himself" to "the whole thing is a hoax, and the records must never be released."

They love Trump so much they will even protect the act of sexual abuse against children. Very sad.

I imagine there are a tiny few for whom this was a breaking point, but I've not encountered a single person IRL or in my social media feeds who has changed views over this. Their worship knows no limits. We see what a true cult looks like.

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Until the last few months, maga has been the loudest (rightfully so) demanding the release of the files. Now, when he says nothing else needs to come out, even though everyone knows there's more, those same maga now say, as if lemmings, say they want nothing else to come out.

I don't know if it meets the definition of cult, but whatever name it can be given, it does make one question why those who for years wanted the truth, all of it, now are with Trump in now not wanting the truth to come out.

It's not as if the truth would hurt maga individually, so why do they fight to keep the truth from coming out? Maybe it is a little cultish-like then.

So then Matt Walsh is right. And Paul Massie is being a slimy congressman. Shocker.

No one believes Massie when he says he was not aware of it. It was not a gathering of thousands.

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It's just amazing how fast MAGA flipped from "Epstein didn't kill himself" to "the whole thing is a hoax, and the records must never be released."

They love Trump so much they will even protect the act of sexual abuse against children. Very sad.

I imagine there are a tiny few for whom this was a breaking point, but I've not encountered a single person IRL or in my social media feeds who has changed views over this. Their worship knows no limits. We see what a true cult looks like.

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Vehemently disagree. Much of even die hard MAGA are regular hard working good folks. There are already and will be many more who do a full 180 on Trump if the truth ever comes out.

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What is the truth that may come out?

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That's why the truth should come out, so all Americans can know.

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So then Matt Walsh is right. And Paul Massie is being a slimy congressman. Shocker.

No one believes Massie when he says he was not aware of it. It was not a gathering of thousands.

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Or its a free country and people can show up to a press conference if they want to. You're so mad at Massie its hilarious.

Transparency is never wrong between a government and its citizens.

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So then Matt Walsh is right. And Paul Massie is being a slimy congressman. Shocker.

No one believes Massie when he says he was not aware of it. It was not a gathering of thousands.

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Or its a free country and people can show up to a press conference if they want to. You're so mad at Massie its hilarious.

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I think its hilarious how far upside his hindside you reside. You be you bruh. You be you.

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shiftyandquick said:

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It's just amazing how fast MAGA flipped from "Epstein didn't kill himself" to "the whole thing is a hoax, and the records must never be released."

They love Trump so much they will even protect the act of sexual abuse against children. Very sad.

I imagine there are a tiny few for whom this was a breaking point, but I've not encountered a single person IRL or in my social media feeds who has changed views over this. Their worship knows no limits. We see what a true cult looks like.

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Vehemently disagree. Much of even die hard MAGA are regular hard working good folks. There are already and will be many more who do a full 180 on Trump if the truth ever comes out.

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What is the truth that may come out?

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That's why the truth should come out, so all Americans can know.

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100% agree. The poster said that "will be many more who do a full 180 on Trump if the truth ever comes out."

So I think it's a logical question to ask the poster what is the truth that may come out that would cause a 180 turn?

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shiftyandquick said:

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It's just amazing how fast MAGA flipped from "Epstein didn't kill himself" to "the whole thing is a hoax, and the records must never be released."

They love Trump so much they will even protect the act of sexual abuse against children. Very sad.

I imagine there are a tiny few for whom this was a breaking point, but I've not encountered a single person IRL or in my social media feeds who has changed views over this. Their worship knows no limits. We see what a true cult looks like.

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Until the last few months, maga has been the loudest (rightfully so) demanding the release of the files. Now, when he says nothing else needs to come out, even though everyone knows there's more, those same maga now say, as if lemmings, say they want nothing else to come out.

I don't know if it meets the definition of cult, but whatever name it can be given, it does make one question why those who for years wanted the truth, all of it, now are with Trump in now not wanting the truth to come out.

It's not as if the truth would hurt maga individually, so why do they fight to keep the truth from coming out? Maybe it is a little cultish-like then.

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Not living up to the username this morning. MAGA is a cult is not spin? Fuuny.

And can you provide references for people calling for the truth not to come out? For that matter, calling for nothing further to come out?

Trump came closer to the latter but said very clearly there was nothing further of substance to come out that did not involve ongoing investigations, victims names, or misinformation. BTW - See Sections 2 and 3 of Massies HR for same exclusions.

No one is fighting against the truth coming out. I and most others are simply saying move on - and not because its not also important and that those victims do not deserve justice, but if there is any justice left to be served then it would be an ongoing investigation I would think. Or there is not enough evidence.

Again, I think you would find 100% support amongst Trump / MAGA folk for things to come out. Thats been made clear over and over. But at some point you have to quit carrying the torch for the left on these things and put faith in things playing out.

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No Spin Ag said:

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shiftyandquick said:

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It's just amazing how fast MAGA flipped from "Epstein didn't kill himself" to "the whole thing is a hoax, and the records must never be released."

They love Trump so much they will even protect the act of sexual abuse against children. Very sad.

I imagine there are a tiny few for whom this was a breaking point, but I've not encountered a single person IRL or in my social media feeds who has changed views over this. Their worship knows no limits. We see what a true cult looks like.

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Until the last few months, maga has been the loudest (rightfully so) demanding the release of the files. Now, when he says nothing else needs to come out, even though everyone knows there's more, those same maga now say, as if lemmings, say they want nothing else to come out.

I don't know if it meets the definition of cult, but whatever name it can be given, it does make one question why those who for years wanted the truth, all of it, now are with Trump in now not wanting the truth to come out.

It's not as if the truth would hurt maga individually, so why do they fight to keep the truth from coming out? Maybe it is a little cultish-like then.

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Not living up to the username this morning. MAGA is a cult is not spin? Fuuny.

And can you provide references for people calling for the truth not to come out? For that matter, calling for nothing further to come out?

Trump came closer to the latter but said very clearly there was nothing further of substance to come out that did not involve ongoing investigations, victims names, or misinformation. BTW - See Sections 2 and 3 of Massies HR for same exclusions.

No one is fighting against the truth coming out. I and most others are simply saying move on - and not because its not also important and that those victims do not deserve justice, but if there is any justice left to be served then it would be an ongoing investigation I would think. Or there is not enough evidence.

Again, I think you would find 100% support amongst Trump / MAGA folk for things to come out. Thats been made clear over and over. But at some point you have to quit carrying the torch for the left on these things and put faith in things playing out.

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Lol

"provide references for people calling for the truth not to come out? For that matter, calling for nothing further to come out?"

"move on - and not because its not also important and that those victims do not deserve justice, but if there is any justice left to be served then it would be an ongoing investigation I would think. Or there is not enough evidence."

So sit on our hands and trust Trump to do the right thing. No thanks

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So then Matt Walsh is right. And Paul Massie is being a slimy congressman. Shocker.

No one believes Massie when he says he was not aware of it. It was not a gathering of thousands.

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Or its a free country and people can show up to a press conference if they want to. You're so mad at Massie its hilarious.

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I think its hilarious how far upside his hindside you reside. You be you bruh. You be you.

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Lol

"provide references for people calling for the truth not to come out? For that matter, calling for nothing further to come out?"

"move on - and not because its not also important and that those victims do not deserve justice, but if there is any justice left to be served then it would be an ongoing investigation I would think. Or there is not enough evidence."

So sit on our hands and trust Trump to do the right thing. No thanks

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I see your truly colors, shining through. This is about Trump to you and not about justice. Same as Massie.

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flown-the-coop said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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So then Matt Walsh is right. And Paul Massie is being a slimy congressman. Shocker.

No one believes Massie when he says he was not aware of it. It was not a gathering of thousands.

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Or its a free country and people can show up to a press conference if they want to. You're so mad at Massie its hilarious.

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I think its hilarious how far upside his hindside you reside. You be you bruh. You be you.

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The left cannot meme and should quit trying.

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No Spin Ag said:

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shiftyandquick said:

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It's just amazing how fast MAGA flipped from "Epstein didn't kill himself" to "the whole thing is a hoax, and the records must never be released."

They love Trump so much they will even protect the act of sexual abuse against children. Very sad.

I imagine there are a tiny few for whom this was a breaking point, but I've not encountered a single person IRL or in my social media feeds who has changed views over this. Their worship knows no limits. We see what a true cult looks like.

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Until the last few months, maga has been the loudest (rightfully so) demanding the release of the files. Now, when he says nothing else needs to come out, even though everyone knows there's more, those same maga now say, as if lemmings, say they want nothing else to come out.

I don't know if it meets the definition of cult, but whatever name it can be given, it does make one question why those who for years wanted the truth, all of it, now are with Trump in now not wanting the truth to come out.

It's not as if the truth would hurt maga individually, so why do they fight to keep the truth from coming out? Maybe it is a little cultish-like then.

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Not living up to the username this morning. MAGA is a cult is not spin? Fuuny.

And can you provide references for people calling for the truth not to come out? For that matter, calling for nothing further to come out?

Trump came closer to the latter but said very clearly there was nothing further of substance to come out that did not involve ongoing investigations, victims names, or misinformation. BTW - See Sections 2 and 3 of Massies HR for same exclusions.

No one is fighting against the truth coming out. I and most others are simply saying move on - and not because its not also important and that those victims do not deserve justice, but if there is any justice left to be served then it would be an ongoing investigation I would think. Or there is not enough evidence.

Again, I think you would find 100% support amongst Trump / MAGA folk for things to come out. Thats been made clear over and over. But at some point you have to quit carrying the torch for the left on these things and put faith in things playing out.

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You yourself have been the poster child on this thread for bashing any and every attempt that has been put forward in showing support for the truth to come out. You say you support the full release of unredacted information in one breathe, then in the next several breathes you bend over backwards bashing anyone that wants to press forward with the release of information.

You come across as not being genuine, and per the other posters point, a little cultish in defense of Trump when it comes to Massie trying to shine a light on the issue. An issue that Trump used to support shining a light on before he pivoted to calling it a hoax.

His mindset is basically "I want all of the information to come out, but only if Trump is the one who releases it." Truly bizarre.

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Lol

"provide references for people calling for the truth not to come out? For that matter, calling for nothing further to come out?"

"move on - and not because its not also important and that those victims do not deserve justice, but if there is any justice left to be served then it would be an ongoing investigation I would think. Or there is not enough evidence."

So sit on our hands and trust Trump to do the right thing. No thanks

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I see your truly colors, shining through. This is about Trump to you and not about justice. Same as Massie.

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Ad hominem, if Trump wanted to, he could have the full unredacted files released but for some reason he isn't. Idk why you're crashing out so hard on this lol

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His mindset is basically "I want all of the information to come out, but only if Trump is the one who releases it." Truly bizarre.

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Yeah at this point it might be better to just add him to the mute list, he hasn't said anything coherent in a couple pages now.

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No Spin Ag said:

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shiftyandquick said:

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It's just amazing how fast MAGA flipped from "Epstein didn't kill himself" to "the whole thing is a hoax, and the records must never be released."

They love Trump so much they will even protect the act of sexual abuse against children. Very sad.

I imagine there are a tiny few for whom this was a breaking point, but I've not encountered a single person IRL or in my social media feeds who has changed views over this. Their worship knows no limits. We see what a true cult looks like.

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Until the last few months, maga has been the loudest (rightfully so) demanding the release of the files. Now, when he says nothing else needs to come out, even though everyone knows there's more, those same maga now say, as if lemmings, say they want nothing else to come out.

I don't know if it meets the definition of cult, but whatever name it can be given, it does make one question why those who for years wanted the truth, all of it, now are with Trump in now not wanting the truth to come out.

It's not as if the truth would hurt maga individually, so why do they fight to keep the truth from coming out? Maybe it is a little cultish-like then.

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Not living up to the username this morning. MAGA is a cult is not spin? Fuuny.

And can you provide references for people calling for the truth not to come out? For that matter, calling for nothing further to come out?

Trump came closer to the latter but said very clearly there was nothing further of substance to come out that did not involve ongoing investigations, victims names, or misinformation. BTW - See Sections 2 and 3 of Massies HR for same exclusions.

No one is fighting against the truth coming out. I and most others are simply saying move on - and not because its not also important and that those victims do not deserve justice, but if there is any justice left to be served then it would be an ongoing investigation I would think. Or there is not enough evidence.

Again, I think you would find 100% support amongst Trump / MAGA folk for things to come out. Thats been made clear over and over. But at some point you have to quit carrying the torch for the left on these things and put faith in things playing out.

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The torch was carried and cranked to 11 by maga and so many on here.

If all it would take is Trump or his people saying to their people to release everything, why don't they do that? They could've done that back when they had the influencers at the WH months ago and this would no longer be talked about.

No one's saying they don't want anything to come out, but they are saying to move on and other thing like that, which doesn't exactly say "we also want the truth to come out"

Do you want all the truth to come out, even if people you like or support are negatively affected? Simple question.

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You yourself have been the poster child on this thread for bashing any and every attempt that has been put forward in showing support for the truth to come out. You say you support the full release of unredacted information in one breathe, then in the next several breathes you bend over backwards bashing anyone that wants to press forward with the release of information.

You come across as not being genuine, and per the other posters point, a little cultish in defense of Trump when it comes to Massie trying to shine a light on the issue. An issue that Trump used to support shining a light on before he pivoted to calling it a hoax.

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You fall for Massie pomp & circumstance, ignore the fact he is not asking for anything new, provides the same exclusions that have been discussed before, and try to white knight yourselves as if you are doing anything other than wanting tabloid fodder. Sorry for calling y;all's game out, but its you guys that are far from genuine.

I am just being honest. Brutally so. What light do you think Massie, Ro Khanna and Gloria Allred was shining yesterday and with their HR that is worthless? The victims again allege big names are coming, just you wait. Sounds like Trump on the campaign trail.

Let me make this clear as you seem to have an issue understanding my position.

Regarding the files >> Release it all, every pixel, pecker and payment. I don't care to see any of it but would happily watch the perp walks, trials and convictions of those responsible for the sex trafficking that without a doubt occurred.

Justice for criminals >> See above. Prosecute all to the fullest extent then stone them in the public square.

Regarding Trump >> Go read my posts earlier in the thread. I absolutely believe the Trump admin has mishandled this. Does that mean I think Trump is a co-conspirator? No. And I do not think it means there is a cover-up. I think it is a hot, hairy rotting ball that no one wants to own and hence the mishandling, so to speak.

Regarding next steps >> Again, I support full file release. Let the chips fall. Short of that, I do think it is time to move on and Trump has a few short years to get this Country back on the right track. I would rather focus on continued avoidance of WWIII, keeping the libs from ever having power again, juicing the economy, and putting America and its citizens first. Massie joining forces with the DNC and MSM to antagonize Trump (which is their goal) is... unhelpful.

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Do you want all the truth to come out, even if people you like or support are negatively affected? Simple question.

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Emphatically yes. And its been said by me over and over and over again.

I do support Trump in many many areas because I agree with his priorities. But if he is implicated in information that was released, then he faces the consequences.

Same for anyone regardless of whether I have liked them or support them.

You have zero clue as to how close to home this hits for me regarding what happened to those girls. ZERO.

I can absolutely call out Massie for his stunt(s) and still want truth to come out (whatever that may be at this point) and also say I think much of the rhetoric is either for tabloid fixes or to hate on Trump (or both).

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Tea Party said:

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You yourself have been the poster child on this thread for bashing any and every attempt that has been put forward in showing support for the truth to come out. You say you support the full release of unredacted information in one breathe, then in the next several breathes you bend over backwards bashing anyone that wants to press forward with the release of information.

You come across as not being genuine, and per the other posters point, a little cultish in defense of Trump when it comes to Massie trying to shine a light on the issue. An issue that Trump used to support shining a light on before he pivoted to calling it a hoax.

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You fall for Massie pomp & circumstance, ignore the fact he is not asking for anything new, provides the same exclusions that have been discussed before, and try to white knight yourselves as if you are doing anything other than wanting tabloid fodder. Sorry for calling y;all's game out, but its you guys that are far from genuine.

I am just being honest. Brutally so. What light do you think Massie, Ro Khanna and Gloria Allred was shining yesterday and with their HR that is worthless? The victims again allege big names are coming, just you wait. Sounds like Trump on the campaign trail.

Let me make this clear as you seem to have an issue understanding my position.

Regarding the files >> Release it all, every pixel, pecker and payment. I don't care to see any of it but would happily watch the perp walks, trials and convictions of those responsible for the sex trafficking that without a doubt occurred.

Justice for criminals >> See above. Prosecute all to the fullest extent then stone them in the public square.

Regarding Trump >> Go read my posts earlier in the thread. I absolutely believe the Trump admin has mishandled this. Does that mean I think Trump is a co-conspirator? No. And I do not think it means there is a cover-up. I think it is a hot, hairy rotting ball that no one wants to own and hence the mishandling, so to speak.

Regarding next steps >> Again, I support full file release. Let the chips fall. Short of that, I do think it is time to move on and Trump has a few short years to get this Country back on the right track. I would rather focus on continued avoidance of WWIII, keeping the libs from ever having power again, juicing the economy, and putting America and its citizens first. Massie joining forces with the DNC and MSM to antagonize Trump (which is their goal) is... unhelpful.

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So basically Trump is mishandling this but anybody else who wants the truth to come out is attacking Trump.

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

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His mindset is basically "I want all of the information to come out, but only if Trump is the one who releases it." Truly bizarre.

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Yeah at this point it might be better to just add him to the mute list, he hasn't said anything coherent in a couple pages now.

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Thank god.

I engage to inform. When someone closes their ears because they cannot handle facts then it shows who they are.

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So basically Trump is mishandling this but anybody else who wants the truth to come out is attacking Trump.

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If that is your opinion of what I wrote, then quit engaging and derailing by trying to make it about me personally and not the topic. Its pathetic, lame and unnecessary.

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No Spin Ag said:

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Do you want all the truth to come out, even if people you like or support are negatively affected? Simple question.

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Emphatically yes. And its been said by me over and over and over again.

I do support Trump in many many areas because I agree with his priorities. But if he is implicated in information that was released, then he faces the consequences.

Same for anyone regardless of whether I have liked them or support them.

You have zero clue as to how close to home this hits for me regarding what happened to those girls. ZERO.

I can absolutely call out Massie for his stunt(s) and still want truth to come out (whatever that may be at this point) and also say I think much of the rhetoric is either for tabloid fixes or to hate on Trump (or both).

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This is what Massie and co want - everything the government has (DOJ, FBI, etc) released immediately with only the victims names redacted and nothing else, so I'm not really sure what you are even pushing back on here. Besides constantly calling it a hoax and trying to get everyone to move on, Trump's team is so far only allowing for limited release of heavily redacted files.

So, for someone who wants the full release of the files, it's strange that you're so against what Massie is doing as that's the closest thing to what you are asking for.

flown-the-coop said:

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PaulsBunions said:

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So basically Trump is mishandling this but anybody else who wants the truth to come out is attacking Trump.

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If that is your opinion of what I wrote, then quit engaging and derailing by trying to make it about me personally and not the topic. Its pathetic, lame and unnecessary.

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Ironic, you say I'm derailing this thread by trying to make it about you personally and not the topic while 15 minutes ago you said I'm "up Massie's hindside"

Also, here you are admitting to doing exactly that:

"To make fun of the people who simply cannot move on."

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3548558/replies/70745800

flown-the-coop said:

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Tea Party said:

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You yourself have been the poster child on this thread for bashing any and every attempt that has been put forward in showing support for the truth to come out. You say you support the full release of unredacted information in one breathe, then in the next several breathes you bend over backwards bashing anyone that wants to press forward with the release of information.

You come across as not being genuine, and per the other posters point, a little cultish in defense of Trump when it comes to Massie trying to shine a light on the issue. An issue that Trump used to support shining a light on before he pivoted to calling it a hoax.

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You fall for Massie pomp & circumstance, ignore the fact he is not asking for anything new, provides the same exclusions that have been discussed before, and try to white knight yourselves as if you are doing anything other than wanting tabloid fodder. Sorry for calling y;all's game out, but its you guys that are far from genuine.

I am just being honest. Brutally so. What light do you think Massie, Ro Khanna and Gloria Allred was shining yesterday and with their HR that is worthless? The victims again allege big names are coming, just you wait. Sounds like Trump on the campaign trail.

Let me make this clear as you seem to have an issue understanding my position.

Regarding the files >> Release it all, every pixel, pecker and payment. I don't care to see any of it but would happily watch the perp walks, trials and convictions of those responsible for the sex trafficking that without a doubt occurred.

Justice for criminals >> See above. Prosecute all to the fullest extent then stone them in the public square.

Regarding Trump >> Go read my posts earlier in the thread. I absolutely believe the Trump admin has mishandled this. Does that mean I think Trump is a co-conspirator? No. And I do not think it means there is a cover-up. I think it is a hot, hairy rotting ball that no one wants to own and hence the mishandling, so to speak.

Regarding next steps >> Again, I support full file release. Let the chips fall. Short of that, I do think it is time to move on and Trump has a few short years to get this Country back on the right track. I would rather focus on continued avoidance of WWIII, keeping the libs from ever having power again, juicing the economy, and putting America and its citizens first. Massie joining forces with the DNC and MSM to antagonize Trump (which is their goal) is... unhelpful.

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Since you are so much smarter than us and clearly have a better understanding of how to politically handle big and sensitive topics like this, can you give us a step by step run down of how you would achieve your stated goals of a full unredacted release of all information? And how you would then go about obtaining justice for every bad actor involved.

Congressman flown-the-coop would do . . . .
and this is realistic and achievable in this political climate because . . . .

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This is what Massie and co want - everything the government has (DOJ, FBI, etc) with only the victims names redacted and nothing else, so I'm not really sure what you are even pushing back on here. Besides constantly calling it a hoax and trying to get everyone to move on, Trump's team is so far only allowing for limited release of heavily redacted files.

So, for someone who wants the full release of the files, it's strange that you're so against what Massie is doing as that's the closest thing to what you are asking for.

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I am pushing back on Massie's timing and tactic. Epstein dies in 2019. Is Massie just hearing about this?

Massie's request allows for the same redactions, same exclusions. He has packaged it to make you think its some huge new demand, but it simply is not. So no I do NOT support what Massie is doing as its all show, no substance.

He can remove sections 2 and 3 and we can talk. Until then he is just a bloviating, trump hatin congress critter.

BTW - People should really look at Massie's past. Since he has been in congress he is known for his showboat votes and one page bills that no one supports. This trick is nothing knew with him.