John Hagler bleeding all over the place about A&M

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shiftyandquick said:

A&M is on the forefront of being a university that it tailoring itself around MAGA ideology.

There is going to be a price to pay for that reputation.

"You can't teach from this book because it is too woke" is a kind of censorship.

A&M is now rolling the clock back to the time where it wasn't aiming to be world-class. And there will be consequences for that.

Well, SEC schools have a record number of applications from the "enlightened" areas of the country. A&M seems to have no issue having thousands of American youth in state and out of state who want to be here.

My own kids have met many students who left the NE to go to college.

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Well, SEC schools have a record number of applications from the "enlightened" areas of the country. A&M seems to have no issue having thousands of American youth in state and out of state who want to be here.

My own kids have met many students who left the NE to go to college.


Every college has a record number of applications. It has more to do with the common app and greater willingness of kids to venture out of state.

It flows both ways too . . .Texas kids in much greater numbers are going to Penn State or or Wisconsin or Michigan to get the best career setup and education.

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A&M should up the ante and force diversity of thought initiative. Require half the faculty to believe in science, IE Only women can get pregnant.
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v1rotate92 said:

A&M should up the ante and force diversity of thought initiative. Require half the faculty to believe in science, IE Only women can get pregnant.

Really? That is a bleeding edge scientific discovery!

Next, you'll tell me that women who historically had or currently have two little testosterone producing factories in their crotch should not be competing in women's sports!
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Umm, for everyone making all these comments, it just shows how much of an echo chamber with misinformation this board can be. He started and it has grown into something no other university has - The Hagler Institute for Advanced Studies

https://hias.tamu.edu/

Massive amounts of STEM and brings in Nobel Laureates, National Academy of Science/Engineering/Medicine members, sponsors many STEM PhD student as well as agriculture. Yes, there are some others in fields that people don't like on here but the majority of that Institute is directly aligned with what makes A&M great. They have recruited some of the Hagler Fellows to become A&M faculty.

People need to do more research before taking a one sentence quote and running wild in all directions.

Jon Hagler is as good of an Aggie as one could ever find.
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Yes because elite scientific minds still aren't sure about the definition of a man - they will gravitate toward those universities that are still trying to define that
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45-70Ag said:

He's the one whose name is on the foundation building.

His quote is below, I'm not posting the link from the Twitter account of the reporter in college station who hates conservatism at A&M.

"It's ironic that state officials want to micromanage our university more than ever while our donors bear more of its financial burden than ever."

A northeast liberal who has spent decades in Massachusetts doesn't like what A&M is doing, I'm shocked.


Always expect a leftist to accuse those opposed to them of doing what they have spent decades doing to the academic environment on our campuses.

In a higher education world where the student can and often does choose alternatives for development in the trades or military, colleges and universities must adapt and provide courses of study relevant to the the student's post-collegiate career. Across the board, from leftist Kenyon to conservative Hillsdale, schools are offering practicums, internships and externships to add real life value to the classroom environment. They are dropping programs and degree courses that are not useful to prospective students' futures.

It is not wrong for a university to change course in response to the needs of the rising generations. Indeed it is essential for them to do so and remain relevant.

Those who fail to adapt in an effort to appease the bygone and discredited educational practices of the extreme left will find themselves greatly diminished in scope or closed down.

The Texas A&Ms and similar schools of this modern world will thrive and find employers carving a path to their doors in search of prepared graduates.

Those like Harvard and Columbia catering to indoctrination over practicality will see their graduates and reputations damaged.
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shiftyandquick said:

You guys will find out the consequences over time for washing the university in MAGA ideology.

It will become a very, very different university over time. Rolling back the clock.



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imagine how much brainwashing the low IQ masses have to go through to conclude and state matter of factually that A&M is "tailoring itself around MAGA ideology". I bet these smooth-brained useful idiots will also proclaim their expertise as they lecture you on what MAGA ideology is exactly as they confidently predict a gloomy and teetering future for any entity not embracing woke communist equity DEI garbage. Ok Nostradamus. I guess we'll see.
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redcrayon said:

What is "MAGA ideology?"

A catch phrase.

Libs love a good catch phrase.
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Worrying about how prestigious our university will be in the future is interesting when one of the core values of the Dem party is advancing unqualified people in every position possible.

Hiring and promoting the incompetent for their skin color or who they want to have sex with will certainly help us get to the top, right?
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KCup17 said:

My counter would be that we already cater to the taxpayer base.
The University exists SOLELY for the benefit of the taxpayer base. It wasn't established with the funding from or stated intention of educating international students. We're ****ed because we have let our institutions stray from their missions.
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shiftyandquick said:

You guys will find out the consequences over time for washing the university in MAGA ideology.

It will become a very, very different university over time. Rolling back the clock.


Good
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I grokked Hagler's philanthropy. Here's what I got:

"Jon L. Hagler (Class of 1958 at Texas A&M University, often referred to as Jon Hagler) is a prominent philanthropist whose giving focuses heavily on higher education and investigative journalism.

Major Personal Gifts (Outside the Foundation)
  • Texas A&M University: Hagler has made multiple multimillion-dollar commitments, including:
    • $20 million in 2017 to name the Hagler Institute for Advanced Study.
    • Additional major gifts, such as matching funds for the College of Arts and Sciences and $15 million (in collaboration with the Welch Foundation) for chemistry research and faculty support.
Grants via the Jon L. Hagler Foundation
Then Jon L. Hagler Foundation (a private family foundation based in Dover, MA, with ~$1.6 million in assets) primarily issues general support grants. Known recipients from recent and historical grants include:

GranteeNotable Amounts/TimingFocus/Purpose
PBS Frontline (via WGBH Educational Foundation, Boston)
$5 million (2014, largest individual gift in program history); ongoing smaller grants (e.g., $2,500 in 2024)
Expanding investigative reporting and endowment support.

Mother Jones
$650,000 (2024)
General support.

George and Barbara Bush Foundation
$250,000 (2024)
General support (likely tied to the Bush Presidential Library at Texas A&M).

The foundation distributed ~$917,500 in grants in its most recent filing year (10 grants total), with the above accounting for the publicly detailed larger ones. Smaller or undisclosed grants make up the remainder.

Hagler's philanthropy shows a pattern of support for Texas A&M-related initiatives and high-impact journalism (both public broadcasting and nonprofit outlets). No other major recurring recipients are prominently documented in public records."
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shiftyandquick said:

redcrayon said:

What is "MAGA ideology?"

It's the kind of ideology that says "Epstein is a hoax, there is no list, and Plato needs to be banned from our universities."


Fear not. Texas A&M won't ever be "like it was". Neither will horse drawn carriages and knob and tube wiring. Ever. A&M will evolve as people and society evolves or it will fade off into the sunset. That's where the maga right is trying to do when they try to make it "like it was". It can't be. Every new generation of Ags *****es about new army and it yet it still changes. The good news is that you cannot stop that change.

This is an institution of higher learning. You can embrace that or you can go to plumbing school. Either way, the university will do what it takes to survive financially and staying "like it was" is not how that happens. Welsh leaving was but a tiny unnecessary hiccup that made the school look bad. Folks can kick and scream all they want but they will eventually die and the school will evolve as it should. All futile wailing over liberals and ideas you or I don't like will be just that…as it always has been and should be.

The only people that actually want TAMU to be a crazy right wing maga nuthouse are the 32 people that post on texags. They aren't going to stop anything.
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why? the ideology is pretty succinct and well defined.

1) Nationalism
2) Populism
3) Restrictive Immigration
4) Economic Protectionism
5) Cultural Conservatism
6) Expanded Executive Powers
7) Law & Order
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BrazosDog02 said:

shiftyandquick said:

redcrayon said:

What is "MAGA ideology?"

It's the kind of ideology that says "Epstein is a hoax, there is no list, and Plato needs to be banned from our universities."


Fear not. Texas A&M won't ever be "like it was". Neither will horse drawn carriages and knob and tube wiring. Ever. A&M will evolve as people and society evolves or it will fade off into the sunset. That's where the maga right is trying to do when they try to make it "like it was". It can't be. Every new generation of Ags *****es about new army and it yet it still changes. The good news is that you cannot stop that change.

This is an institution of higher learning. You can embrace that or you can go to plumbing school. Either way, the university will do what it takes to survive financially whether you or I like it or not. Welsh leaving was but a tiny unnecessary hiccup that did nothing. Folks can kick and scream all they want but they will eventually die and the school will evolve as it should. All futile wailing over liberals and ideas you or I don't like will be just that…as it always has

The only people that actually want TAMU to be a crazy right wing maga nuthouse are the 32 people that post on texags. They aren't going to stop anything.

Curriculum and delivery methods may change as technology and knowledge advances, but the values and traditions that have made our school what it is will stand the test of time and remain the foundation of the University if those of us who value them are vigilant.

Don't fret, it's going to be ok.
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BrazosDog02 said:


The only people that actually want TAMU to be a crazy right wing maga nuthouse are the 32 people that post on texags. They aren't going to stop anything.
Nice character attack on the board.

I think most people would be more than happy if our institutions were just politically neutral and not hives of scum and villainy. I don't think that's too much to ask, though liberals have a lot of growing up to do. The institutions are not the property of liberals. They're the property of taxpayers.
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Join the Rudder Association. Together we can turn back the tide of communist influencers in our beloved alma mater.

https://www.therudderassociation.org/
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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v1rotate92 said:

A&M should up the ante and force diversity of thought initiative. Require half the faculty to believe in science, IE Only women can get pregnant.


Agreed - no diversity of thought in the liberal arts either. At least half of the professors should be conservative or moderate.
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I see dullandslow laid another giant turd that stinks and slinked off.
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shiftyandquick said:

A&M is on the forefront of being a university that it tailoring itself around MAGA ideology.

There is going to be a price to pay for that reputation.

"You can't teach from this book because it is too woke" is a kind of censorship.

A&M is now rolling the clock back to the time where it wasn't aiming to be world-class. And there will be consequences for that.

Wow 41 people starred this trash. World class ! using WHAT and WHOSE benchmarks? WTF !!- If a bunch of commie clowns are selecting the criteria- people with an ideology that has murdered millions, destroyed economies, and brought mass misery the world over; then Aggies should be proud they are no longer striving to be their idea of "world class"

The left never ceases to amaze. Imagine feeling so cocky or superior by demanding people embrace the ideals and benchmarks of the worst and bloodiest ideology in world history. Clearly the definition of mass insanity.

And make no mistake, the days of the middle left are gone. Nothing left but the crazies.
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techno-ag said:

Join the Rudder Association. Together we can turn back the tide of communist influencers in our beloved alma mater.

https://www.therudderassociation.org/
This organization is doing great work at taking back lost ground.
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If your class doesnt help the A or the M i dont really care. Go to t.u.
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BrazosDog02 said:

shiftyandquick said:

redcrayon said:

What is "MAGA ideology?"

It's the kind of ideology that says "Epstein is a hoax, there is no list, and Plato needs to be banned from our universities."


Fear not. Texas A&M won't ever be "like it was". Neither will horse drawn carriages and knob and tube wiring. Ever. A&M will evolve as people and society evolves or it will fade off into the sunset. That's where the maga right is trying to do when they try to make it "like it was". It can't be. Every new generation of Ags *****es about new army and it yet it still changes. The good news is that you cannot stop that change.

This is an institution of higher learning. You can embrace that or you can go to plumbing school. Either way, the university will do what it takes to survive financially and staying "like it was" is not how that happens. Welsh leaving was but a tiny unnecessary hiccup that made the school look bad. Folks can kick and scream all they want but they will eventually die and the school will evolve as it should. All futile wailing over liberals and ideas you or I don't like will be just that…as it always has been and should be.

The only people that actually want TAMU to be a crazy right wing maga nuthouse are the 32 people that post on texags. They aren't going to stop anything.

What BS!! So this new neocommie ideology the left is recycling is not horse drawn and knob and tube wiring ? whatever that bs is.

WOW May I present a poster that never took a history or economic course. If it had, it would know that socialism/communism is technologically, logistically, socially, etc REGRESSIVE.

I remember when the mighty USSR couldn't even make bread in the late 1980's, I remember China under Mao, couldn't remotely feed its population and millions starved in the '60 and 70's. China didn't begin to be a serious global player until the early 90's after it enacted market reforms.

Its amazing, the arrogance of this post when the historical record is clear on this topic. BS like this just tells me as a species we never learn a damn thing. And just believe the same old lies with different packaging every 3 generations. Makes one lose hope that the same old mistakes will just be repeated by the idiots.

"Evolve" BAHAHAHA is that what you call this BS.
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Yep, the insults and arrogance in the posts by the "enlightened" ones in this thread are very telling.
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While it is true voters have the right to decide how state-funded universities are run, it is also true that those who desire A&M to "roll back the clock" on woke B.S. need to win the argument in the public square. So far, the winning argument is on the Left (Oh no! 1st Amendment rights gone and/or 'academic freedom' disappearing) and there will be backlash from fickle voters unless more folks stand up and offer an explainer to voters of the right's POV as to where academic standards at A&M ought to be.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

I would tell John Hagler to get out of Texas if he doesn't like it since A&M is only reluctantly doing what the legislature mandated. But Hagler doesn't even live in Texas, so he can kindly shut the **** up.

This is none of his business and he has no say in the affairs of our state.

He didn't stop being an Aggie when he moved away from Texas. Neither did any of the other thousands of Aggies living in other states and countries around the world. His concern is for Texas A&M. It is a big mistake to start pissing off major donors. Especially in the new world of NIL.

I could not care less about the removal of gender studies degrees. However, I DO care that my university is now basically completely controlled by our sip governor. Every member of the BOR are Abbott lackeys. Our new Chancellor and Interim president are YES men who appear to willingly bend over to take it before the words even come out of the governor's mouth.

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NE PA Ag said:

Yep, the insults and arrogance in the posts by the "enlightened" ones in this thread are very telling.

Just tells me they are total morons and will believe anything that sounds good. Logic and the historical record be damned. And the funniest part, they actually think they are morally and intellectually superior. Its laughable if it wasn't so dangerous. How could people with so much real data and history available be this impulsive and foolish.
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sanangelo said:

While it is true voters have the right to decide how state-funded universities are run, it is also true that those who desire A&M to "roll back the clock" on woke B.S. need to win the argument in the public square. So far, the winning argument is on the Left (Oh no! 1st Amendment rights gone and/or 'academic freedom' disappearing) and there will be backlash from fickle voters unless more folks stand up and offer an explainer to voters of the right's POV as to where academic standards at A&M ought to be.


You'll have to pardon me if I don't put as much emphasis on voters as I do tuition payers and former students.

A baylor/texas/whoever else grad can go pound sand with their opinion about a&m's political leanings for all I care.
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Look at Harvard, Yale etc. and the people they are churning out today and then say A&M is turning back the clock? What an idiotic argument. Turn it back. Demand will sky-rocket. We dont need another weak, woke degree factory churning out people with useless degrees, lots of debt and zero chance at being employed by anyone.
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We are probably going to start dropping in certain rankings purely as punishment for going against the woke tide. IDGAF. I have three kids in high school and I'm much more likely to approve of them attending A&M now than I was before we started fighting back.
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MAGA, the tired, worn-out tag for all things bad, for me stands for simply wanting to cut out the freak show and go "back" to a time when an individual's effort and accountability were what determined their level of success. The hurdles ANY individual has to jump to achieve their goals should always be the same height, regardless of how different they are.

Anyone using the MAGA term in hyperbolic attacks is either not super smart, not well-informed or is simply 'all in' on their purpose in life which is serving as useful idiots for the Leftist elite, to transform our country into what it has never been. There's a reason the USA (despite the warts) grew to be the greatest, most successful nation in history.

I appreciate what Mr Hagler has contributed to our university and have no idea how he made all the money that enables this. The fact of the matter is the long-term march towards socialism/communism that his side supports, would never have enabled him to build such wealth. It would be great if that fact would be recognized by those among us who have stacks of money. Does he have the best and brightest, capable people managing those assets?

Carry on.
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shiftyandquick said:

A&M is on the forefront of being a university that it tailoring itself around MAGA ideology.

There is going to be a price to pay for that reputation.

"You can't teach from this book because it is too woke" is a kind of censorship.

A&M is now rolling the clock back to the time where it wasn't aiming to be world-class. And there will be consequences for that.


You're wrong on everything all the time.
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TAMU1990 said:

shiftyandquick said:

A&M is on the forefront of being a university that it tailoring itself around MAGA ideology.

There is going to be a price to pay for that reputation.

"You can't teach from this book because it is too woke" is a kind of censorship.

A&M is now rolling the clock back to the time where it wasn't aiming to be world-class. And there will be consequences for that.

Well, SEC schools have a record number of applications from the "enlightened" areas of the country. A&M seems to have no issue having thousands of American youth in state and out of state who want to be here.

My own kids have met many students who left the NE to go to college.



Schools like BAMA, Ole Miss, TN, and Auburn are the most popular targets for the out of state kids from the NE part of the country. The popularity of the "Rush Tock" videos was the main driver of the increase in out of state applications to those schools for kids from the NE. The reason seems dumb as hell to me, but social media has created a new level of shallowness among some young people, in my opinion. Other aspects that make the schools I listed above as attractive to students from NE are better winter weather and it being much easier to gain admission to the schools above compared to big universities on the East and West coasts.



 
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