If you go to school in the southeast, it's because you're dumb, shallow and scared to compete.

New to me, thanks for the update!

Buck Turgidson said:

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We are probably going to start dropping in certain rankings purely as punishment for going against the woke tide. I have three kids in high school and I'm much more likely to approve of them attending A&M now than I was before we started fighting back.

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Oh no! We might go down from 80,000 students to 79,000.

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shiftyandquick said:

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A&M is on the forefront of being a university that it tailoring itself around MAGA ideology.

There is going to be a price to pay for that reputation.

"You can't teach from this book because it is too woke" is a kind of censorship.

A&M is now rolling the clock back to the time where it wasn't aiming to be world-class. And there will be consequences for that.

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You're wrong on everything all the time.

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An astounding record, really. You'd think he might accidentally say something right once in a while.

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If you go to school in the southeast, it's because you're dumb, shallow and scared to compete.

New to me, thanks for the update!

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Nope. Lots of smart kids go to schools in the SE. Schools like UF, UGA, Georgia Tech. I don't consider Texas the SE, which is why I didn't list A&M and tu above.

Buck Turgidson said:

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We are probably going to start dropping in certain rankings purely as punishment for going against the woke tide. IDGAF. I have three kids in high school and I'm much more likely to approve of them attending A&M now than I was before we started fighting back.

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I told my two it was up to them, I just wouldn't pay a dime if they chose one of the two schools in Austin/Waco to attend.

shiftyandquick said:

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Ban foreign faculty and staff. Ban foreign students. Ban any leftist ideology from being taught.

Profit.

This is the formula. I think it will be a good case study, a good experiment. Please be my guest and make it happen. It will be instructive for everyone else in the country.

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Your ability to build strawmen from absolutely nothing truly is a talent to behold. Bravo!

We have finally reached the time where A&M graduates are boasting about its academics being fully on par with the other universities in the Deep South. Like the University of Mississippi. And demand for admission is skyrocketing.

I don't even know what to say. Bless your hearts and good luck.

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We have finally reached the time where A&M graduates are boasting about its academics being fully on par with the other universities in the Deep South. Like the University of Mississippi. And demand for admission is skyrocketing.

I don't even know what to say. Bless your hearts and good luck.

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shiftyandquick said:

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I don't even know what to say.

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Based on past history, you'll find a way.

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LeTouneau is another example closer to home. Respected business school

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Not sure LeTourneau is comparable to Hillsdale at all from an academic perspective. It is closer to home for Texas kids, sure.

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TAMU1990 said:

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shiftyandquick said:

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A&M is on the forefront of being a university that it tailoring itself around MAGA ideology.

There is going to be a price to pay for that reputation.

"You can't teach from this book because it is too woke" is a kind of censorship.

A&M is now rolling the clock back to the time where it wasn't aiming to be world-class. And there will be consequences for that.

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Well, SEC schools have a record number of applications from the "enlightened" areas of the country. A&M seems to have no issue having thousands of American youth in state and out of state who want to be here.

My own kids have met many students who left the NE to go to college.

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Schools like BAMA, Ole Miss, TN, and Auburn are the most popular targets for the out of state kids from the NE part of the country. The popularity of the "Rush Tock" videos was the main driver of the increase in out of state applications to those schools for kids from the NE. The reason seems dumb as hell to me, but social media has created a new level of shallowness among some young people, in my opinion. Other aspects that make the schools I listed above as attractive to students from NE are better winter weather and it being much easier to gain admission to the schools above compared to big universities on the East and West coasts.

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Where are you coming up with this? As a resident of said part of the country I've known many kids and parents of kids that chose to go south for school. Not one went because of sorority tik tok videos or because they can't get into schools here. The reasons I've been told:
1. They want a full college experience with football/athletics and other social activities you typically don't get up here.
2. A lot of them are good kids that recognize that the astronomical cost of northeastern schools puts an undue financial burden on parents and they understand they can get a perfectly good education for far less money.
3. They aren't interested in the left wing indoctrination centers many northeastern schools have become.
4. The weather has entered into the conversation at times, I'll grant you that.

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Not sure LeTourneau is comparable to Hillsdale at all from an academic perspective. It is closer to home for Texas kids, sure.

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In the context of this discussion it works. LETU is a regional private school, it was not my intention to compare it to Hillsdale, TAMU, tu. or any other tier 1 research institution.

There are examples of higher learning institutions that have success and generate productive, high earning graduates while holding to coservative principles . The idea that gender studies is a pre-requiste for institutional success (and pushing that futher to say the US is doomed without it) is rediculous.

TAMU will be fine without it. The country will be fine without it.

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The Collective said:

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Not sure LeTourneau is comparable to Hillsdale at all from an academic perspective. It is closer to home for Texas kids, sure.

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In the context of this discussion it works. LETU is a regional private school, it was not my intention to compare it to Hillsdale, TAMU, tu. or any other tier 1 research institution.

There are examples of higher learning institutions that have success and generate productive, high earning graduates while holding to coservative principles . The idea that gender studies is a pre-requiste for institutional success (and pushing that futher to say the US is doomed without it) is rediculous.

TAMU will be fine without it. The country will be fine without it.

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Yep, somehow some way the good old USA (with standards we want for Texas A&M) was built into the most innovative, wealthy and powerful country - IN EVERY WAY - that we now see the entire planet depends on, without all the insane, counterproductive woke nonsense. How the heck did that happen?

Every single 'cause' of the Left including higher education eventually gets us 180 degrees from how we got here.

Will someone please counter that?

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shiftyandquick said:

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A&M is on the forefront of being a university that it tailoring itself around MAGA ideology.

There is going to be a price to pay for that reputation.

"You can't teach from this book because it is too woke" is a kind of censorship.

A&M is now rolling the clock back to the time where it wasn't aiming to be world-class. And there will be consequences for that.

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Well, SEC schools have a record number of applications from the "enlightened" areas of the country. A&M seems to have no issue having thousands of American youth in state and out of state who want to be here.

My own kids have met many students who left the NE to go to college.

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Schools like BAMA, Ole Miss, TN, and Auburn are the most popular targets for the out of state kids from the NE part of the country. The popularity of the "Rush Tock" videos was the main driver of the increase in out of state applications to those schools for kids from the NE. The reason seems dumb as hell to me, but social media has created a new level of shallowness among some young people, in my opinion. Other aspects that make the schools I listed above as attractive to students from NE are better winter weather and it being much easier to gain admission to the schools above compared to big universities on the East and West coasts.

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Those are popular and all SEC schools. Another southern school with large out of state students from the NE is Clemson. They have 1/3 of their student body is out of state and they like it and recruit for it. Clemson and A&M have lots of parallels They both started as land grant all military schools. Clemson was originally called Clemson Agricultural College of South Carolina but lots referred to it as Clemson A&M.

A better comparable to Hillsdale is Wheaton College.

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While it is true voters have the right to decide how state-funded universities are run, it is also true that those who desire A&M to "roll back the clock" on woke B.S. need to win the argument in the public square. So far, the winning argument is on the Left (Oh no! 1st Amendment rights gone and/or 'academic freedom' disappearing) and there will be backlash from fickle voters unless more folks stand up and offer an explainer to voters of the right's POV as to where academic standards at A&M ought to be.

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This IS the backlash.

Ya'll act like people haven't been ***** about the insane Marxisfication of academia for over a decade.

All this pushback didnt happen over night. People are completely sick of sending their America loving children to school with their hard earned dollars only for them to come back bluehaired morons quoting Chairman ****ing Mao.

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You guys will find out the consequences over time for washing the university in MAGA ideology.

It will become a very, very different university over time. Rolling back the clock.

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so we go from 70k students to 40k.

Sounds like a good plan.

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A better comparable to Hillsdale is Wheaton College.

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You really have no idea what you are talking about.

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That's like saying water is wet.

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sanangelo said:

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While it is true voters have the right to decide how state-funded universities are run, it is also true that those who desire A&M to "roll back the clock" on woke B.S. need to win the argument in the public square. So far, the winning argument is on the Left (Oh no! 1st Amendment rights gone and/or 'academic freedom' disappearing) and there will be backlash from fickle voters unless more folks stand up and offer an explainer to voters of the right's POV as to where academic standards at A&M ought to be.

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This IS the backlash.

Ya'll act like people haven't been ***** about the insane Marxisfication of academia for over a decade.

All this pushback didnt happen over night. People are completely sick of sending their America loving children to school with their hard earned dollars only for them to come back bluehaired morons quoting Chairman ****ing Mao.

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I agree that it is backlash. However, explain your backlash to the suburban middle class mom in a way that convinces her that righting the ship of academia at A&M is the right move. Otherwise, she's voting for Talarico et. al. and the backlash becomes whiplash.

What is this about?

This issue is going to have close to zero effect on how people vote.

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Buck Turgidson said:

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We are probably going to start dropping in certain rankings purely as punishment for going against the woke tide. IDGAF. I have three kids in high school and I'm much more likely to approve of them attending A&M now than I was before we started fighting back.

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I told my two it was up to them, I just wouldn't pay a dime if they chose one of the two schools in Austin/Waco to attend.

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Might consider adding Fort Worth and Dallas to your no-fly list. The DEI is strong at those former SWC powerhouses.

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He's the one whose name is on the foundation building.

His quote is below, I'm not posting the link from the Twitter account of the reporter in college station who hates conservatism at A&M.

"It's ironic that state officials want to micromanage our university more than ever while our donors bear more of its financial burden than ever."

A northeast liberal who has spent decades in Massachusetts doesn't like what A&M is doing, I'm shocked.

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Perhaps the gentleman should first direct his concern to the things taking place under the roof of the building that bears his name? A true s***show, I'm told. And what makes him think that "donors who bear more of its financial burden" don't align themselves with the actions and directives of state officials?

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Look at Harvard, Yale etc. and the people they are churning out today and then say A&M is turning back the clock? What an idiotic argument. Turn it back. Demand will sky-rocket. We dont need another weak, woke degree factory churning out people with useless degrees, lots of debt and zero chance at being employed by anyone.

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Cannot star this enough.

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100%. Why on Earth would anyone teach nonsense to young people in order to get respect from morons?

And you are the perfect example of a brainwashed feminist who would cry for equality while the goons rape your wife and daughter, enslave your sons and cut your throat. It's way past time to turn back the insanity that grips our nation and go back to the values and standards that make our nation what it became not where it's steering towards today, utter and complete collapse

There are more interested in attending our school than ever. We live in a world where most higher ed is far left. We are actually a beacon of sanity; it may just not seem that way to some because they have grown accustomed to the looneybird-ism that permeates most campuses, even ours from time to time.