I know the guy who posted it. He's one of the Bonfire advisors. Has or does sit on the board and is a poster here.
100% this. My daughter is 29 and images of her as an 8-10 year old keep flashing through my mind.DG-Ag said:My daughter just turned 30. The last few days I can only see her as an 8-year old.JDUB08AG said:
They say things hit you different as a parent. As a dad with a 9 year old daughter, I didn't realize how understated that could be. Praying for everyone involved.
dermdoc said:swimmerbabe11 said:
If it is Rick jervis, he posted on this thread earlier from USA today. just doing his job. sucks.
Yep.
If Dion says it, take it as completely legit when it comes to any matter Bonfire related.Nonregdrummer09 said:
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/172H8vMtPF/?mibextid=wwXIfr
Anyone with Bonfire confirm this?Quote:
To those of you who support Bonfire, know that you are a critical part of this. This is what your support for these Aggies achieves, far beyond the Woods…
I got a call yesterday from a group with Kerr county's disaster response and recovery operations. They desperately needed working experience in timber, brush, and debris. Ideally, a self-directing group with an established command structure, and regular practice in inhospitable conditions. Of course, they were looking for Bonfire. Their commitment not being mine to give, I connected with student leadership to see if they were in a position and willing to help. I found that they were already in that area - without ever having been asked - and had already been working elsewhere. They were eager for an objective that best leveraged their unique abilities in service to others. They immediately connected with the coordinator. With their new mission, they flew back to Aggieland, resupplied, and an advance team was back on site that evening with equipment, and worked until dark. Coordinating with local teams, that night they refined their plans for the next day. More Aggies with the required operational experience would be joining them the next day and through the week. Having a plan to work to maximum effect and safety were imperative.
The situation is constantly changing, but as of now, they operate as a mobile tactical debris removal team, clearing the way for dogs, searchers, and rescuers. They have been briefed on what to expect. They know the hazards, but they likewise know their capacity - and so their duty - to meet them. I spoke with them last night and am struck by their resolve and sober measure of the situation and their role in it. I am in awe of their courage and selfless service, and eternally grateful for the endlessly-serving Aggies of Bonfire.
I will be connecting with them again this evening when their day's work is done to see what they need. I'll update accordingly.
Mark Fairchild said:
This is why I believe it is a good thing that we don't have a dam* Journalism Dept.
edit for reply to my own postone safe place said:You meant no harm. I checked with my wife (she is involved in everything at the church) and she confirmed the current situation. If there are any developments she and both my daughters will know immediately and I will post them here. The media showed up at the prayer vigil and was taking pictures inside the church during the service until she got told to stop.BadMoonRisin said:According to the latest (3 hrs ago) news story, there is some confusion about the identities of some of the family members.one safe place said:Yeah, they are friends of ours, particularly my two daughters and their husbands and children. Someone posted on Facebook pictures of their oldest son and one of my grandsons at church, in the pews and at the communion rail, and the tears have come flooding back.BadMoonRisin said:
Wife just found out a family from her hometown church community in Liberty County who were staying in an RV camp were victims to the storms. Bodies of husband and son found, wife and other son still missing.
8 year old Daughter was at one of the camps in the area, but not sure which one (edit: it was Camp Longhorn). She was successfully evacuated, only to find out that the rest of her family was missing.
May God have mercy.
I had not heard they found one of the boys, but heard they found the father.
I still pray for the safe return and passage for the entire family and feel regret posting this information. I tried to be vague to protect their privacy and identities, but was careless in posting unverified information.
I agree. He is trying to do his job and it looks like he wants to write a positive story about the wonderful helpers.Naveronski said:I don't get the hate for him. He posted in his true name and was open about who he is, who he works for, etc.dermdoc said:swimmerbabe11 said:
If it is Rick jervis, he posted on this thread earlier from USA today. just doing his job. sucks.
Yep.
I guarantee you others have used information from this thread without giving credit or being as transparent.
Just found out a family member has posted that Julia's body has been found. No word on the boys yet.Pitch To Johnny said:
This is the family we have been desperately trying to find updates for. We know the father has been found but have seen a couple comments that one of the boys has been found. Is there any way to confirm this?
Wanted to let you know that a family member has posted that they found Julia's body but no information on the two boys.BadMoonRisin said:According to the latest (3 hrs ago) news story, there is some confusion about the identities of some of the family members.one safe place said:Yeah, they are friends of ours, particularly my two daughters and their husbands and children. Someone posted on Facebook pictures of their oldest son and one of my grandsons at church, in the pews and at the communion rail, and the tears have come flooding back.BadMoonRisin said:
Wife just found out a family from her hometown church community in Liberty County who were staying in an RV camp were victims to the storms. Bodies of husband and son found, wife and other son still missing.
8 year old Daughter was at one of the camps in the area, but not sure which one (edit: it was Camp Longhorn). She was successfully evacuated, only to find out that the rest of her family was missing.
May God have mercy.
I had not heard they found one of the boys, but heard they found the father.
I still pray for the safe return and passage for the entire family and feel regret posting this information. I tried to be vague to protect their privacy and identities, but was careless in posting unverified information.
How in the world did they navigate all that debris that was raging down the river. Those are some heroes right there.Independence H-D said:
TXTF1 swif****er boat team in action. This particular crew came out of El Paso FD.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16kU9tjPEc/
dad gum, that hard to hear as well. Lord help herDG-Ag said:
My wife just got this news from her boss:
Boss's cousin, his wife and two small sons were camping in an RV around Kerrville before going to pick up the daughter at Camp Longhorn. Their RV got washed away. They found the father deceased. Mother and two sons are still missing. The daughter at Longhorn now essentially orphaned.
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What To Expect As First Responders Return Home
As first responders begin to return from Hurricane Harvey, it is vital that we pay attention to their wellbeing. Large scale disasters demand significant physical and mental amounts of energy that public servants readily give of themselves. However, the recovery process for these amazing first responders is frequently overlooked. If you are a public safety professional who has deployed to the hurricane, a family member, friend or colleague, here are some things to consider:
First responders take about half a second to ramp up mentally and physically. The fight or flight response is immediate and vital to the roles that first responders take on during dangerous and even life-threatening situations. Coming off the response however, is very different. Think of this analogy: launching into response mode is fast like a microwave, with immediate heat and energy. Coming off response mode is like an oven that has been cooking at 500 degrees cooling down, slowly and gradually.
During Harvey, all first responders utilize the fight or flight response, which involves the sympathetic nervous system and copious amounts of adrenaline, glucose and cortisol. In the aftermath of the activation, rescuers will experience the counter effect of the fight or flight response, which is a parasympathetic nervous system backlash. This means rescuers hit the wall. They get very tired and irritable. They sometimes catch colds or simply don't feel well. At the same time, they also begin to deal with reality as the sights, smells and sounds begin to replay in their minds.
Please understand that human beings are not light switches. We don't simply "turn off" an experience and "turn on" normal life. I ask that every first responder give himself of herself time to recover. Specifically, please consider this:
For First Responders:
Get rest. Take plenty of naps if you are not sleeping well through the night
Stay hydrated
Take Vitamin C and zinc to help prevent or shorten the nasty cold you might have
Talk to your family, your peers, peer support or a clinician
Resist the urge to skip the gym. Yes, you are tired, but moving your body is the best way to get the fight or flight chemicals out of your system
Resist the urge to drink too much. Heavy intoxication will only make matters worse
If after two weeks you feel like you are not beginning to return to normal, get help immediately from a clinician who understands public safety
For Family Members:
It is important to give first responders the time and space to return to "normal life." Try not to overwhelm them with requests in the first few days. They will need time to restore their resilience.
If there are issues at home while your loved one is away and you are notifying him/her, be sure to include the solutions that are being implemented. For example, if your 10th grader is already struggling in biology, let your loved one know what steps are being taken for tutoring, etc.
Understand that your first responder has seen significant human struggling. They will come home with a perspective that the little things in life that don't matter REALLY don't matter. It is likely that they will have little tolerance when the kids are arguing over what video game to play. They are dealing with a sharp contrast of reality coming from where they have been.
Don't be surprised if your first responder has no desire to go out in public for a few days. They have been over-stimulated by noise, people and chaos for several days.
Understand that your loved one might not want to talk about it. It's ok for little snippets to come out here and there, and also for them to be more inclined to share with their fellow first responders versus family members.
Don't take it personally if your loved one tells you that he or she wants to go back. This is normal. The work is very meaningful, much needed and ongoing in disasters. It is normal to want to return to continue to help.
For Coworkers and Supervisors:
Be there for your colleagues as they return and allow them the opportunity to discuss what they have been through without judgment.
Understand that they will view the normal workday as mundane for a while. Considering what they have been through, it is normal for returning first responders to be frustrated with the tempo, the paperwork and the protocol. They will feel restricted compared to where they have been.
Encourage them to get help if things are not returning to normal.
The main things to remember is that it takes time and effort to restore your resilience after a disaster deployment. Also please understand that it is normal for all of the issues to crop up a bit later down the line. The delayed response is due to the fact that many first responders employ a healthy amount of internal numbing, and when the numbing wears off, the reactions occur. Please take good care of yourselves and reach out if things are not improving.
Aldo the Apache said:
Caught myself crying in the airport this morning. All deaths hurt, but just can't stop thinking about those kids.
I wish we could bookmark a specific post like that, like we can with whole topics. Would love to have that at hand the next time something happens to someone close by (as much as we hope we won't need it)rintintin221 said:
This is a FB post from a family that lost their daughter in a Shreveport La church bus accident in 2009. Gives some insight into what the parents will be going through and what you can do for them.
Ah, sorry. We were traveling most of the day so I didn't spend as much time on line that day. Apologize for the duplication. Wife just heard about it today as it was her first day back at work after vacation.*****lynature said:
I believe this matches a story that was discussed here in this thread, maybe on Saturday?
cav8423 said:
There were posts floating around social media to "say there names" and the following people were listed. I'm not sure if they are campers, counselors, or even affiliated with this tragedy. Does anyone know? If they are, I'm not sure if they are missing or have been found. I'm assuming there could have been others who were never "unaccounted" for because they were found immediately. I know Lucy was a camper that was found, I'm assuming Twins cabin. I'm not sure about any of the others listed, but I did see their names in several posts. Were there any other missing counselors, other than the Bubble Inn counselors? This is all so truly heartbreaking. Praying for all of the girls and their families.
drewser95 said:I wish we could bookmark a specific post like that, like we can with whole topics. Would love to have that at hand the next time something happens to someone close by (as much as we hope we won't need it)rintintin221 said:
This is a FB post from a family that lost their daughter in a Shreveport La church bus accident in 2009. Gives some insight into what the parents will be going through and what you can do for them.
Badace52 said:Mark Fairchild said:
Well, when I sat down to once again look at this post to learn how things are progressing, I found a PM from a reporter from USA Today. Of course I deleted it, but quite frankly I am FURIOUS. First of all how did he gain access to my information? How did he PM me?
He wanted to know if I had any information that was not known that he could use. Has anyone else received a PM like this? Should we report it to TexAgs? Asking.........
I've gotten PMs from USA Today, Wall Street Journal, Good Morning America and ABC News reporters.
I just want to thank TexAgs for keeping our identities anonymous on here. So far my phone had remained silent.
allgoaton said:cav8423 said:
There were posts floating around social media to "say there names" and the following people were listed. I'm not sure if they are campers, counselors, or even affiliated with this tragedy. Does anyone know? If they are, I'm not sure if they are missing or have been found. I'm assuming there could have been others who were never "unaccounted" for because they were found immediately. I know Lucy was a camper that was found, I'm assuming Twins cabin. I'm not sure about any of the others listed, but I did see their names in several posts. Were there any other missing counselors, other than the Bubble Inn counselors? This is all so truly heartbreaking. Praying for all of the girls and their families.
None of these names you listed are associated with missing campers. I didn't quote them bc I am not convinced it is accurate information.