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I stopped flying out of Easterwood because I'm screwed if AA cancels the last connection...and they did all the time. My last overnight in DFW about 6 years ago made me start taking the shuttle to IAH and I haven't looked back.

Plus, I only have a handful of departure and arrival options from Easterwood. Layovers in DFW can be up to 6 hours. I can get to IAH, go through TSA precheck faster than at Easterwood, and be on a plane 2 hours after leaving home. I did it on Monday.

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Saw this on Facebook for things to watch for at Thursday meeting:

Looks like David Woods going to spend more of our money convincing council members and mayor to buy into this thing.


https://blog.cstx.gov/2025/02/26/5-things-to-watch-at-thursdays-city-council-meeting-70/?fbclid=IwY2xjawIsfTRleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHd4fSwDJHdIWrl6EhilCToiIhYU7Dmc0mVDCvHzxYJ-26EA56dAk3WS6vw_aem_4zSnDwyHoJpLP9Lual7LQA

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Do we not have a hotel and covention center at the Hilton? Why does the city think they need to compete with the Hilton.

The Hilton College Station & Conference Center in College Station, Texas has 31,919 square feet of event space, which can accommodate large conventions and corporate meetings. The hotel's meeting and ballroom space is IACC certified.

https://www.hilton.com/en/hotels/cllchhf-hilton-college-station-and-conference-center/events/

?impolicy=crop&cw=2600&ch=1091&gravity=NorthWest&xposition=0&yposition=69&rw=1920&rh=806

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The Hilton's facility is literally 'the worst'. And to get the worst possible venue, it also costs 'the most' to get that service.

Just because the Hilton exists doesn't mean we don't still legitimately need a real convention space here.

Kinda like wanting a good burger and saying "don't we already have a McDonalds?". If you want a GOOD burger, McDonalds doesn't cut it.

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but i don't wanna pay $1000 for what you think is a good burger. If you want to, then spend your own money

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EliteElectric said:

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Vanilla Ice is touring again

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Brian Alg said:

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Tim Weaver said:

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If you want a GOOD burger, McDonalds doesn't cut it.

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Please don't be giving Yancy any more ideas. The convention center, bond ballot failing ballpark, and Macy's pickleball complex are enough.

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tu ag said:

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Squeaky wheels get the grease means something negative.

Listening is one thingand representing best interests isn't always the same thing. We need to fix infrastructure, safety, and basic economic issues first.

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tu ag said:

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Squeaky wheels get the grease means something negative.

Listening is one thingand representing best interests isn't always the same thing. We need to fix infrastructure, safety, and basic economic issues first.

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Hornbeck said:

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Reminder: this is what they bought Chimey Hill for only to sell it later for a multimillion dollar loss.

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Hornbeck said:

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Reminder: this is what they bought Chimey Hill for only to sell it later for a multimillion dollar loss.

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Bob Yancy said:

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Brian Alg said:

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Tim Weaver said:

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If you want a GOOD burger, McDonalds doesn't cut it.

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Please don't be giving Yancy any more ideas. The convention center, bond ballot failing ballpark, and Macy's pickleball complex are enough.

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I generate my own ideas. You should see my hat size. ;-)

1) I would only support the events center if it was a broadly supported and funded project across the entire community and all local governments. If the citizens say "no" the answer is "no." Of course, a private sector manager would be critical and private investment too.

2) the ballpark was well in progress before my time on council. Since Texas Indy Ballpark failed, a loud chorus of constituents have contacted me repeatedly about baseball and they came to city hall in force to make their case. So yes, I support baseball.

3) Macy's pickleball - I like to fix things and the Macy's purchase was/is broken. The pickleball community locally is a couple thousand strong. That research was my attempt to check the viability of that concept after our attempt to sell it garnered no buyers. Still stuck on how to fix Macy's without the taxpayers taking a bath.

Respectfully

Yancy '95

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Duffel Pud said:

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Well I don't know. Isn't that my job? To represent the citizens? If there are large numbers for or against something, and relative silence from the opposing side, I see it as my duty to listen. The more transparent I/we can be as a city the more clarity I have in feedback. There will be times when folks just aren't keeping track of every detail and that's all about fiduciary duty- for me to do that research and make the best call. Reach out proactively when I'm unsure and hear feedback.

But when the chorus is loud and clear, that's when it's a representative position and your elected officials should check their passions and pet projects at the door and basically do what the citizens demand.

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Bob, the reason there is relative silence from a majority of citizens is because they are too busy trying to make ends meet while raising families to have the 'soft retirement' time to invest in politics. It is a constant fight trying to keep governments' hands out of my continually shrinking slice of the pie, and government has more hands reaching in than I can slap. In the last four years my cost of basic necessities increased by over 20% while my regular income only increased 3.5%. Consequently I've had to take on new gigs to meet that gap, all the while fighting Brazos and Burleson Counties and the City of College Station (as well as state and fed gov) taxing authorities.

That's why when the city loses millions on these pet projects then comes with hat in one hand a knife in the other for more, I get so doggone mad.

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Brian Alg said:

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Bob Yancy said:

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1) I would only support the events center if it was a broadly supported and funded project across the entire community and all local governments. If the citizens say "no" the answer is "no." Of course, a private sector manager would be critical and private investment too.

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How much taxpayer money are you planning on spending in order to try to convince voters in College Station and leadership in other governments to follow you on this excursion? So far it is $40k with a commitment to spend another $30k. Will you have architects spend $2 million on this project before you do cost/benefit discernment? This isn't even a gamble. This is a surefire loser. Use the rosiest projections and it still stinks.

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2) the ballpark was well in progress before my time on council. Since Texas Indy Ballpark failed, a loud chorus of constituents have contacted me repeatedly about baseball and they came to city hall in force to make their case. So yes, I support baseball.

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I presume these are not conversations I can ORR. If I am wrong, tell me what to ask for. But if that is right, you have a batch of people speaking with you in secret making claims about shortages that probably could not hold up to reasonable scrutiny.

The city needs to start making big decisions in the light of day.

I have asked city staff repeatedly across the years for any information about ballfield shortages and the need to spend $5 million dollars per field to address the shortages. So far nothing. If this is an issue that you think can withstand scrutiny of the public eye, then make the argument in public. But if you are using private meetings to justify overriding the will of voters (just 3 years ago) that is on you. I understand that a good chunk of money was spent before you got there. But the $1.5 million on architects' fees on 3 ballfields that you are unwilling to make a case for and the $15 million you want to spend on 3 ballfields you are unwilling to make a case for is on you.

The way y'all are going about this one makes me think the lesson y'all learned with Macy's is that when the city is committed to making bad decisions behind closed doors, don't involve staff so you don't leave a paper trail. And the way y'all are going about the ballpark makes me think that it doesn't matter how citizens vote, you are just going to tell us you had a private meeting where people assured you that it was actually a good idea so you are going to go ahead with the project anyway.

Edit: 13,216 people voted against spending $24 million dollars on 4 ballfields. You are going ahead and claiming that you don't need to ask citizens to spend $15 million on 3 ballfields because of "relative silence from the opposing side." Don't blame citizens. They voted loud and clear. This is on you. What gets me is you won't even make a case for it. You are claiming that some secret chorus of constituents have made a secret compelling argument that you seem to be unwilling to share with the rest of us.
https://blog.cstx.gov/2022/11/08/live-blog-2022-city-election-results/

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woodiewood said:

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Bob Yancy said:

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Brian Alg said:

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Tim Weaver said:

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If you want a GOOD burger, McDonalds doesn't cut it.

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Please don't be giving Yancy any more ideas. The convention center, bond ballot failing ballpark, and Macy's pickleball complex are enough.

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I generate my own ideas. You should see my hat size. ;-)

1) I would only support the events center if it was a broadly supported and funded project across the entire community and all local governments. If the citizens say "no" the answer is "no." Of course, a private sector manager would be critical and private investment too.

2) the ballpark was well in progress before my time on council. Since Texas Indy Ballpark failed, a loud chorus of constituents have contacted me repeatedly about baseball and they came to city hall in force to make their case. So yes, I support baseball.

3) Macy's pickleball - I like to fix things and the Macy's purchase was/is broken. The pickleball community locally is a couple thousand strong. That research was my attempt to check the viability of that concept after our attempt to sell it garnered no buyers. Still stuck on how to fix Macy's without the taxpayers taking a bath.

Respectfully

Yancy '95

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Since we are having to incure the cost of maintenance of the Macy's building and there appears to not be any motivated buyers, maybe converting a portion of the first floor to pickleball courts and other uses might generate some revenues to offsett the maintenance courts.
My questions would be,

1. What is the cost of any mold remediation?
2. What are the costs associated with renovation? Are the ceilings tall enough?
3. Would be pickleball courts compete directly with private businesses?
4. What revenues could be generated from indoor pickleball operations? I didn't realize that the pickleball crowd is in the thousands. Are these regular players or are many, "Oh, I played a couple of times with a friend last year." How many would actually pay a token fee to play indoors?

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Hornbeck said:

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At one of my old jobs, we had a "No Vegas, No New Orleans" rule because folks had too much fun… I'm going to one in New Orleans in a couple weeks.

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