SunrayAg said:

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I think the market is going to figure out that there is no such thing as a "can't miss" splash hire, and the insane contracts to lure coaches are going to moderate.

Especially in an era when you can openly spend the money on players.

An up and coming young coach and a high dollar roster are going to turn out to be a better investment than a 9 digit coach.

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I don't know. I think we've learned the long, hard lesson that it is all about the HC. And if you can lure a proven HC away then and be successful then that investment will have great return. The fully guaranteed concept might start to fade though, as it should.

Kiffin's interview with Theo Von was good. Worth a watch. May change your mind on him.

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Bill Superman said:

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SunrayAg said:

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I think the market is going to figure out that there is no such thing as a "can't miss" splash hire, and the insane contracts to lure coaches are going to moderate.

Especially in an era when you can openly spend the money on players.

An up and coming young coach and a high dollar roster are going to turn out to be a better investment than a 9 digit coach.

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I don't know. I think we've learned the long, hard lesson that it is all about the HC. And if you can lure a proven HC away then and be successful then that investment will have great return. The fully guaranteed concept might start to fade though, as it should.

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Proven head coaches aren't guaranteed to be successful though. You just pay a whole lot more for them. Didn't work for us with Fran or Jimbo. Didn't work out with Brian Kelly. It's not working out for USC with Lincoln Riley. I think Kiffin should stay at Ole Miss. The fit is great and he has a lot of equity there. Why go to LSU or Florida just to be fired?

SunrayAg said:

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I think the market is going to figure out that there is no such thing as a "can't miss" splash hire, and the insane contracts to lure coaches are going to moderate.

Especially in an era when you can openly spend the money on players.

An up and coming young coach and a high dollar roster are going to turn out to be a better investment than a 9 digit coach.

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RE: See Texas Tech

Would it bd illegal for all the bog schools to get together and agree we're not going to offer these contracts anymore?

This is going to get some program into lots of trouble one day.

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Bill Superman said:

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SunrayAg said:

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I think the market is going to figure out that there is no such thing as a "can't miss" splash hire, and the insane contracts to lure coaches are going to moderate.

Especially in an era when you can openly spend the money on players.

An up and coming young coach and a high dollar roster are going to turn out to be a better investment than a 9 digit coach.

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I don't know. I think we've learned the long, hard lesson that it is all about the HC. And if you can lure a proven HC away then and be successful then that investment will have great return. The fully guaranteed concept might start to fade though, as it should.

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Proven head coaches aren't guaranteed to be successful though. You just pay a whole lot more for them. Didn't work for us with Fran or Jimbo. Didn't work out with Brian Kelly. It's not working out for USC with Lincoln Riley. I think Kiffin should stay at Ole Miss. The fit is great and he has a lot of equity there. Why go to LSU or Florida just to be fired?

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Agreed, but there will be others that have to learn the hard way just like we did.

And I could guarantee we still touched base with big name HC's before we went to Elko.

Yes, that's collusion and illegal

AW 1880 said:

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Kiffin is the closest thing we have to Spurrier nowadays.

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FIFY

Leach was oddball and sometime hilarious. More often self-deprecating than attacking.

Spurrier was blunt and loved to twist the knife at the expense of rivals/opponents at times, like Kiffin today.

[edit - credit to Poot who beat me to the Spurrier comparison. didn't see it before. ]

I don't like Kiffin but he's spot on on this subject.

He has never won anything of note and neither has Sarkisian . Been close but no cigar. Neither has Elko but I sure like the trend and he hasn't had nearly the shots on goal those 2 have.