***** Official 2026 World Cup Group G Thread *****

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Iran flopping around like a South American side
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PatAg said:

fig96 said:

He leaned first, who cares.

I get that we call offside now by measuring inches, and it's dumb.

By leaning first he was offside
I know how it works, I don't have to like it.
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I've always thought if your feet are onside you should be considered onside

eta: if a single defenders foot sets the offside line it makes since that the offensive player should be considered onside by where his feet are.
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YouBet said:

fig96 said:

He leaned first, who cares.

I get that we call offside now by measuring inches, and it's dumb.

Well, then it becomes where do you draw the line? Its easier to just declare offsides if any part of you is rather than get into a debate of distance if they decided to make it 6 in, 12 in, etc.
IMO if you need to slow down the instant replay or draw a digital line to tell if he was off or not, let the play stand.

I'm not saying we shouldn't review or that my opinion is the only right one, I just genuinely don't care if a player is 3 inches offside.
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Lukaku is not a dribble through traffic kinda guy.
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fig96 said:

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fig96 said:

He leaned first, who cares.

I get that we call offside now by measuring inches, and it's dumb.

Well, then it becomes where do you draw the line? Its easier to just declare offsides if any part of you is rather than get into a debate of distance if they decided to make it 6 in, 12 in, etc.

IMO if you need to slow down the instant replay or draw a digital line to tell if he was off or not, let the play stand.

I'm not saying we shouldn't review or that my opinion is the only right one, I just genuinely don't care if a player is 3 inches offside.

I don't know that I do either but then it becomes a subjective, ambiguous enforcement issue if you aren't strict about it. Doing it this way removes alot of subjective calls like we have in football with the absolute idiocy of what now constitutes a catch ie football moves, etc.

Actually prefer it being strict here to prevent all of that b.s.
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YouBet said:

fig96 said:

He leaned first, who cares.

I get that we call offside now by measuring inches, and it's dumb.

Well, then it becomes where do you draw the line? Its easier to just declare offsides if any part of you is rather than get into a debate of distance if they decided to make it 6 in, 12 in, etc.

Arsene Wenger, who works for FIFA, wants to change the offside rule to have the attacking player be deemed offside only if there is a visible gap between him and the second-to-last defender. So if any part of the attacker's body is level with the defender, then that's considered to be onside.

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Well, that could make sense to do it that way.
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That's dumb and just moves the goalpost. They'll still measure by an inch and we'll still be frustrated.

The issue isn't the rule, per se - it's the level of precision by which VAR enforces the rule.

I prefer Marco Van Basten's idea: scrap offside entirely. Of course, that's probably the reason he doesn't work for FIFA anymore.
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It's just changing the line and the body parts we'll be zooming in on and staring at for 2 minutes…

But I guess psychologically people feel it's more in line with "the old days" and how referees called it? I don't know. I think we should just accept we can now be exact on offsides and move on.
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Wenger is an idiot. It won't solve the "he's off by a millimeter" issue. All it does is change the decision point from the player being a mm in front to being a mm clear.

And it fundamentally changes soccer as the daylight offside change would give the attacker literally a running head start. No defender would ever catch them. So to combat that you would find teams playing sweepers in deep.
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Shockingly, MLS handles this extremely well: make the official on the field make the call. Make the VAR use live action replays only to determine if there was a clear an obvious error.

The rule was never ever intended to be held to the level of precision we have. So either the rule itself needs to be changed, or we need to ignore the technology and let humans make the call (and overturn only when clearly and obviously wrong).
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Mathguy64 said:

Wenger is an idiot. It won't solve the "he's off by a millimeter" issue. All it does is change the decision point from the player being a mm in front to being a mm clear.

And it fundamentally changes soccer as the daylight offside change would give the attacker literally a running head start. No defender would ever catch them. So to combat that you would find teams playing sweepers in deep.


You'd also find dudes in weird racing stances trying to keep one foot behind the furthest back defender.

I'm fine with them removing VAR from offsides calls. I think the randomness is part of the game. But it's going to cut against you as much as it works for you.
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Peter Piper said:

YouBet said:

fig96 said:

He leaned first, who cares.

I get that we call offside now by measuring inches, and it's dumb.

Well, then it becomes where do you draw the line? Its easier to just declare offsides if any part of you is rather than get into a debate of distance if they decided to make it 6 in, 12 in, etc.

Arsene Wenger, who works for FIFA, wants to change the offside rule to have the attacking player be deemed offside only if there is a visible gap between him and the second-to-last defender. So if any part of the attacker's body is level with the defender, then that's considered to be onside.




I love Wenger, but this isn't happening. He said it at the end of last year and it been almost universally disagreed with
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Belgium sucks.
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Yeah. If the current state of things is really offensive enough to require a change (and I personally don't find it that bad, to be transparent), then require VAR to use live action only.

I don't think taking VAR out entirely is the answer. Referees make clear mistakes because their job is hard and there can be a lot to look at. We should be able to correct those.
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really nice save
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deadbq03 said:

Shockingly, MLS handles this extremely well: make the official on the field make the call. Make the VAR use live action replays only to determine if there was a clear an obvious error.

The rule was never ever intended to be held to the level of precision we have. So either the rule itself needs to be changed, or we need to ignore the technology and let humans make the call (and overturn only when clearly and obviously wrong).


Not only do that do that, if they go to the monitor they use the eye test with grass mow lines. And they are pretty good at it.
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Peter Piper said:

Belgium sucks.

They sure don't look like the 10th best team in the world.
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how did that not go in
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Wow that was wild.
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Is that the best save so far in the World Cup from the Iranian GK?
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Several top teams cannot seem to get the lid of the goal
Vox Clamantis
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The line is wild right now. Showing an implied

58% chance Belgium wins
8% chance Iran wins
36% chance of draw


PatAg
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Interesting finish to the game now
wangus12
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Belgium down to 10
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Red card. Wow.
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wow.
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The hilarious part is he's basically swallowed his whistle and cards up until then.
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Thats rough. He does barely tug the shirt and Taremi goes down so so easy, but he was though on goal
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wangus12 said:

Thats rough. He does barely tug the shirt and Taremi goes down so so easy, but he was though on goal

Definitely not a clear cut DGSO either. long way out and the other Belgian player looked likely to provide cover
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I thought it was clear red live then after the replays not so much.
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This game has big implications on the potential R16 opponent for the USA.
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I actually hope we can avoid playing Iran simply because I would like to avoid all of the b.s. that will come with that.
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why is Iran playing so passively now?
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