superunknown said:

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If you're in the "trade Fox ASAP" camp I can only assume you're ready for a 2nd year PG to lead the offense for a 2nd year HC on a team that has not figured out who their go-to guy in winning time is. I also assume you're ready for another "growth" season and are willing to go through more iso ball and desperate hot potato shots at the end of posessions since we also don't even have a bailout play to trot out to either salt the game away or squelch a late quarter/late game run by the opposition.

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Right on point. Dumping Fox at his lowest value is a move that's going to keep you from making it back to the Finals next year. Absolutely needed him to get past OKC. We saw how Castle played without him then with him. 10 turnovers. Yeesh.

We frankly need Mitch to step up and demand more movement from all of them and we need that physical PF to take the pressure and mileage off Wemby.



Good podcast with Yossi (my favorite cap nerd) and Jared Weiss (Spurs The Athletic reporter.) They do go into the roles of the guards and agree that Spurs need Fox one more year for the development of Harp/Steph, but like we all said, Fox will eventually need to be moved.

They floated some trades. Target Minn's Naz+DDV, which doesn't work financially but they didnt get into that part. Minn still needs to send out like Beringer to make it work, which they wouldn't do. They could S&T Conley or SlowMo back to us to make it work financially and still keep Ayo. Or maybe we do something like Naz+DDV+Ayo S&T for Fox+Julian. That would work both ways. I actually kind of like that, though I think we still need a steady backup guard even if it is just like Tre Jones (under contract with Chicago at 8M.)

Keldon+Hawks 27 for Gordon. Need some minor other deals to make the cash work. Fox for Herro+filler if Giannis doesnt go there. The evergreen Lauri trade. Still don't want him.

Yossi seems to think Julian will get ~17M/year. Still disagree.

Also talked about Kristaps as a MLE guy.

Kristaps' weird sickness issues last year make him a do not take under any circumstance. In the past I would have thought it could work to put him and Wemby out there, but at this point Porzingis is completely unreliable.

I assume most other teams feel the same and his market is going to be limited IMO.

Yeah, the sickness thing is weird and I think he sticks in GSW and probably just plays from now on on 1y contracts.

But say we did do that Wolves trade of Fox/Julian for Ayo, Naz, DDV, adding Kristaps as your 4th big could be really interesting. Kerr also said last year it was misdiagnosed as POTS and that isn't what he has. So IDK.

Kristaps for 1y MLE. Wade for BAE. Wolves Trade. Cam Carr at 20. Tarris Reed at 35


Wemby - Kornet - Tarris Reed
Wade - Naz - Kristaps
Vassell - Bryant - Carr
Castle - Ayo - Keldon
Harper - Jordan - ??

IR: DDV

That seems like a reasonable get off ramp. Still want a better backup guard that is a real point than Ayo.

I'm in on Veeser at 20 if all of the obvious targets are gone. If the Hawks had just lost a few more games. I feel like some of the players we like would be there at 17 or 18 but not at 20.

We talked about this previously, but I don't see the Wolves as motivated to move Naz to the team that just eliminated them and fill our most glaring hole even if it helps them get marginally better.

Some "insider" comments on Karim Lopez:

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Karim Lpez | 6-8 1/4 forward | 19 years old | NZ Breakers

Western Conference executive No. 3: I give him credit. I think it says a lot about these guys when they can leave home as teenagers and, if not thrive, do reasonably well. As a teenager, he goes to Spain and New Zealand. That league (Australia's National Basketball League) is hard to play in. It's an older league, and it's physical. He was a little overwhelmed his first year, but the second year, he stepped up. He's 6-9, 220-some (pounds), he's strong. Not an elite athlete, but good enough. He's got some ballhandling. His shot, he started really hot and then sort of regressed to the mean; it wasn't very good down the stretch. Defensive issues. Also, what is his fastball? I don't know that I can identify a real fastball. He might be a jack of all trades and a master of none, which kind of limits just how valuable you are in the NBA. But I think he's clearly worthy of a top-20 pick. He's doing this, and he's just 19. So that's in his favor.

Eastern Conference executive No. 3: This kid is not a ball-in-hand guy. He's going to play off people. He can dribble, pass and shoot. He can make a 3 and make a play against a secondary defense. Kind of got a little too big. Had a little bit of a back issue throughout the year, and when I went and saw him, there was something lingering there. He's healthy now. Solid player. I see him going late lottery, or 13 through 15. If he gets past 15, 16, it's going to be a good value pick. He can play with others. You can put him in a game with men and he'll stay out of the way, but if you put the ball in his hands, he can make a shot. He'll put his body in front of you (defensively). Initially, he'll be able to guard threes and fours and put his body in the way. He will give you resistance. He's not going to let you run through him.

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And Cameron Carr:

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Cameron Carr | 6-4 1/2 wing | 21 years old | Baylor

Western Conference scout No. 2: I think he is a better (Spencer) Dinwiddie, if you will. He can play three positions. Really can score, super athletic, and he can defend. His wingspan. that's what's going to get him over the top, and he doesn't mind defending. He comes from an NBA family (his father, Chris Carr, played six seasons in the league). Knows how to play. Super high IQ. Really played well in Chicago, helped himself. I really like him. I think he's going to be anywhere from 14 to 18, maybe 13 to 18. Heard he's doing all right in the workouts, too.
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Western Conference scout No. 1: He turned out to be (Baylor's) best player, but wasn't ready for the responsibility of being the best player. Didn't have the leadership. Shot every ball. And because he was the most talented, guys didn't b- about it. But they didn't celebrate his success. He's still young. … What I see him to be is a guy who will come into the NBA and will have some adjustment issues to work through. My concerns are not about him as a human being. My concerns relate to his translation to the NBA life, the locker room and all the rest. The talent is there. He's got Zach LaVine type talent. High flier, shoots the s out of the ball. If you don't put a lot of burdens on him and just let him go, he's terrific. The problem is we often burden you with requirements: shot selection, shot discipline, getting other people involved, sharing the ball.

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jteagle said:

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I'm in on Veeser at 20 if all of the obvious targets are gone. If the Hawks had just lost a few more games. I feel like some of the players we like would be there at 17 or 18 but not at 20.

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I would rather have Zuby,I think, even though he doesn't have ideal height. I think Veesaar might be Kornet with a 3pt shot with less physicality and I really want to add physicality to this team somehow.

If we get Stew, then I think Veesaar makes more sense. I just want more beef on the team and that isn't Veesaar's game

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We talked about this previously, but I don't see the Wolves as motivated to move Naz to the team that just eliminated them and fill our most glaring hole even if it helps them get marginally better.

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Yeah, it's a tough situation for them. Are they really going to roll Ayo as their PG? He's a 2.

Rudy, Randle, McD, Ant, Fox is a massive upgrade for two non-starters.

I agree they wouldn't have much appetite for it, but they get the better end of the talent in the deal.

Other teams that need a PG:

Miami (Herro Jovic?)
Houston (Jabari+Fred? Don't think we help them)
Orlando (do you want to pay Suggs 30M to come off the bench)
Toronto (do you want to eat 4y105M of Poeltl and 32.5M/ye of Quickly?)
Suns - don't see a good move for salaries
Wizards - StreetClothes and ??
76ers - PG13 and clippers picks? If you are just salary dumping, two years of PG13 expiring before Castle extends works.
Mavs - overpriced role player pupu platter
Warriors - don't really want anything from them. Fox and Curry are good friends moody and draymond or one year of Butler.
Hawks - don't really want anything except Jalen Johnson
Bulls - salary dump
Utah - would love JJJ, would hate Lauri

Legler bottom line, Fox can still play but Harper is real deal. Don't let Fox bad end overshadow he's a very good player. Spurs probably move off next year because Harper will be ready

Did James play defense?

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Cave Johnson, CEO said:

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I think people are blowing the Fox and Harper thing a little out of proportion. Too many emotions after a disappointing finals, need to just let next season play out.

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But glad Dylan has his mom active in his life.

Stop it!

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superunknown said:

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If you're in the "trade Fox ASAP" camp I can only assume you're ready for a 2nd year PG to lead the offense for a 2nd year HC on a team that has not figured out who their go-to guy in winning time is. I also assume you're ready for another "growth" season and are willing to go through more iso ball and desperate hot potato shots at the end of posessions since we also don't even have a bailout play to trot out to either salt the game away or squelch a late quarter/late game run by the opposition.

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We got all this, plus terrible crunch time play, and a huge reduction in rim pressure from a 28 yo Fox. What logic indicates that retaining a 29 yo Fox somehow allows us to avoid all those problems next year?

Our best chance of avoiding those issue, isn't bringing Fox back and expecting him to all of a sudden play better at 29, it's Harper and Castle and Wemby continuing to develop, preferably while playing a ton of minutes together.

I want to trade him for the exact depth reasons you referenced (and improved shooting and switchability on defense). Keeping Fox at a max salary, actually reduces our depth potential.

The Timberwolves trade discussed above is a great example of a trade that would do exactly that.

I accept that a Fox trade is unlikely to happen this off-season due to his contract and lack of suitors but there is a ton of logic in considering it and trying, especially since we will be forced to move him in the not too distant future regardless.

At no point in this season, was Fox the main reason we were winning. He's at best our 4th best player. Typically you don't pay those max salaries for a reason.

As far as minutes, there is only so many to go around. Harper's will be increasing, whose do you propose should decrease?

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Hollinger pegged him at $22M/year, similar to Julian. Gillespie is a much better shooter and can create. Should be a more valuable archetype than Julian

You ignore that Fox was hurt and you want to trade Fox for "depth" without giving specifics as to what we could reasonably get. You're asking to blow up the team...do you even realize that? You think we're going to get a gold mine back for Fox? This isn't a video game and even in NBA2K your team takes a while to solidify after a big trade. Oh, and the Spurs have not ever done business that way. If you're gonna blow up the team, may as well get a new coach too. New roster, new coach...that'll surely solidify our place in the Finals next year. It's been a week, and the tantrums are just getting old.

Fox sucked in the finals. He's not going to be on the roster more than two years because the team will (salary-wise) be built around Wemby and Harper/Castle. I'm hoping both, somehow, but I'm not confident in that, as teams are struggling to put 3 max contracts on a roster without gutting the rest of the roster, and the Spurs have never been good enough in this new cap/apron era to have to figure it out. If the Harper dickriding continues on its current pace, Castle ain't long for this roster anyway since he'll be worth a max or close to it but also wants to be a primary ball handler. I just don't understand why so many people want to blow this team up already.

The Mavericks are open to moving down in the draft, per @JakeLFischer.

If Aday Mara is available at No. 9, the Thunder should be considered strong candidates to trade up into Dallas’ spot to select the Michigan center. Mara has been heavily linked to OKC through various reports.

— Jake Weinbach (@JWeinbachNBA) June 21, 2026

Which would mean they don't go for Yaxel/Morez. May get the PFs to drop some.

I may change my mind a little bit about Chris Cenac.

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Hawks gave CJ McCollum a 1y21M deal with 7.5% trade kicker and blew up any chance at cap space in the process.

No issues from me. Hoping for a nice draft that gives us the PF we need as our missing piece.

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College assistant coach No. 3 (his team played Michigan): I thought he guarded the best (opposing) player, so I admire him for that. He guarded point guards, he guarded threes. You could switch with him. I think he's a really good player. When he wasn't banged up, down the stretch, he made 3s when they really needed him, and made his free throws when he needed them. I like him because he takes the challenge. But, he talks too much. But, he's a real talent.

Western Conference scout No. 1: The best player (at the Nike Academy last August) was Yaxel Lendeborg. Could really play every element of the game: move the ball, rebound the ball, shoot the ball, handle the ball. There wasn't anything he couldn't do. Yaxel's biggest issue is he doesn't have a star's mentality. He's the guy who relentlessly and ritualistically is looking to make the right play. Whereas, your star player has to sometimes say 'You know, it's the right play for me to swing it to that guy, but I'm better than him; I'm gonna take it.' That's what your star has to do. Yaxel's just not that guy. He'll pass the ball to the 32 percent shooter and encourage him to throw up a shot, when Yaxel shoots (37) percent from 3.

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Morez Johnson | 6-9 big | 20 years old | Michigan

College assistant coach No. 2 (his team played Michigan): I would take him over (Tarris) Reed. There's some Bam Adebayo to him. I know that sounds crazy, 'cause Bam's developed so much. But Morez has some of that. He's nasty, he's mean.

Western Conference executive No. 1: Plays so hard, rebounds. I think he'll get better offensively. He has a man's body right now. I think he's going to be able to guard multiple positions, have some versatility. I've grown to like him. He really stepped up. He was a good player at Illinois, and he clearly went up several notches.

College assistant coach No. 3 (his team played Michigan): At the end of the year, he needed to finish his shots better rolling to the rim. Whether it was the length of people in the tournament or the competition being better, I don't know. He's got to develop a consistent perimeter shot, and they wanted him to take it. But the one thing this kid does is, he plays extremely hard. Runs the floor, is the point on their press. Guards multiple positions. So he's not afraid to switch screen and rolls. Plays with youthful enthusiasm. And he's got a very high motor. If he learns how to play, get good angles in scoring opportunities, he's a good roller. If he could score a little more, his ceiling is very good.

Western Conference scout No. 1: Explosive. Some people think he's undersized, but he's 6-9 and long; that's plenty big enough. He would be perfect for the Spurs. Because he's physical and hard-nosed, and he plays a physical, bruising type of game. San Antonio has to find a physical presence in their lineup to protect Wemby. If you want to get Wemby open, he's the guy who screens for Wemby. And he makes sure the guy that he screens knows, 'Hey, man: stop grabbing him. Because I'm going to crunch you every time you do.' …the next time I set a screen on you, you're probably going to hit the ground.'

I do think they need that, and Morez Johnson is the guy in this draft at a fairly high level that fits that.

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Chris Cenac, Jr. | 6-10 1/4 big | 19 years old | Houston

College assistant coach No. 4 (his team played Houston): His dad was absolutely stone cold set on him going to (a college) to have his ass kicked. No one's babying him (at Houston). Kelvin is great. (Cenac's) big, he's athletic. I think he can do a little more than he did, and that's not a knock on Kelvin. He did what he had to do for them. I think he's a little better shooter than what people have seen. Really good athlete, really good kid. Our only worry was, does he play hard enough? But I think he exhibited it. I think Kelvin got it out of him. Does he go in the teens?

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Jayden Quaintance | 6-9 center | 18 years old | Kentucky

College assistant coach No. 6: Seeing him in high school, his motor's incredible. Super motor. Great off of ball screens. He can cover ground. You hit him in the short roll, he's catching that and dunking it. The kid's so athletic, incredibly athletic. He's a monster when he plays. My only question mark is with him not playing, what is that? I've heard a lot of different things, but it's just hearsay. At least (Louisville guard) Mikal Brown (who had a back injury throughout the season) played way more games than he did. He played four games.

Eastern Conference executive No. 1: If a team takes him and says you're a f-----g five man and you're rolling to the rim and playing defense, he could be impactful right away. If a team takes him and they say you're a four man, he's not going to make it. The shot is broken. But physically, he's a freak. He's grown up. He used to not look you in the eye when you went to watch him practice. He's grown a lot. He's like a Rashaun Holmes. If you're happy with that, he'll be OK.

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I wonder if we'll hear any news of the spurs possibly moving up this week. I'm guessing not, it seems like stuff from our FO doesn't get leaked too often.

Is there anyone you guys would trade Julian or Keldon and 20 for?

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I'm so glad we didn't trade for that bum

Imagine trading two starters and a lottery pick for your missing piece and not getting out of the first round

I think the Knicks would trade us OG for Julian and a bag of chips before methlahoma would ever do a deal with us.

All I know is that I am ready for tomorrow night to get here. I know it's a way to pass the time but all the draft/trade talk gets old after a while. There are only so many mock drafts to look at. It's the same thing over and over again.

I hate waiting.