***** 2026 Spurs Off-Season Thread *****

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LawHall88
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The 2027 Hawks pick gets even less valuable.
Enzo The Baker
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Man. Give Presti credit for picking the right players. He unloaded a contract of someone who couldnt make it onto the court in the WCF for two second rounders and cap alleviation.

Edit: not too concerned though. Next year's draft is pretty poo poo.
Guitarsoup
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It's more evidence we need to move that 27 pick for Morez.

Thunder are likely moving 12 and 17 to Dallas for 9.

Take 12 for 20 the Hawks pick.

Dallas moves 9 into 17/20+ 20271st (they don't own one)
Average Joe
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Guitarsoup said:

It's more evidence we need to move that 27 pick for Morez.

Thunder are likely moving 12 and 17 to Dallas for 9.

Take 12 for 20 the Hawks pick.

Dallas moves 9 into 17/20+ 20271st (they don't own one)


Wonder if getting Dusty May changes that and they go after Mara.
Guitarsoup
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Average Joe said:

Guitarsoup said:

It's more evidence we need to move that 27 pick for Morez.

Thunder are likely moving 12 and 17 to Dallas for 9.

Take 12 for 20 the Hawks pick.

Dallas moves 9 into 17/20+ 20271st (they don't own one)


Wonder if getting Dusty May changes that and they go after Mara.


Maybe. But turning #9 into three firsts would be let solid, especially with two in a deep draft. They need a guy like Stirtz or Christian Anderson
Guitarsoup
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Would like him as a depth piece
Deluxe
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I do not want him on the Spurs
Guitarsoup
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Deluxe said:

I do not want him on the Spurs


Should have kept him
ThenamesAg
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Guitarsoup said:



Would like him as a depth piece

I know Keldon is the heart of the team, but getting this guy and trading Keldon seems like the right basketball decision on paper.
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ThenamesAg said:

Guitarsoup said:



Would like him as a depth piece

I know Keldon is the heart of the team, but getting this guy and trading Keldon seems like the right basketball decision on paper.

I don't know that Keldon has a ton of trade value outside the expiring contract.

Keldon is a useful piece in burning up regular season minutes in addition to the culture aspect.

Like to extend Keldon for ~7-8M/year. Something like Peyton Prichard's 4/30 contract taking about 5% of the cap.

If you can draft Dailyn Swain, you get a better basketball version of Keldon on a rookie deal, but I dont know how much Keldon trade can upgrade your PF slot.
CC09LawAg
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Yeah, I think we need to keep him for the reasons you mentioned, but outside of some major change in his game (unlikely), we've seen that he will be very matchup dependent in a playoff setting.

We need to be aware that he will likely slot in as a deeper rotation piece come playoff time and start building the roster with that in mind.
Guitarsoup
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Yeah, I think that is the plan and why we need to grab a guy like Dean Wade to play PF. Wade won't knock anyone's socks off as a player, but he is steady and consistent. Does all the little things you want and at 6'9 230lb has the proper size. Real lunch pail guy.

I love we got Keldon into the record books with the 6MOY. But really want to see us add multiple playable depth pieces at PF right now.
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Lowe on his recent podcast said that he had penciled in Keldon at 25/yr before the playoffs started and that made me damn near spit my drink out. There is no universe in which Keldon would have ever commanded anything near that much money. Giving him any real money is going to be a crippling move and I'm with you, he deserves something in that range of what Kenrich Williams was making with OKC; anything more and I will be squeamish. Honestly I kind of want him to be traded, he is the "heart and soul" in the same way that Marcus Smart was for Boston. I think we would similarly be better off in getting rid of the leadership voice that can't hold their weight on the court.
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TheNotoriousP.I.P. said:

Lowe on his recent podcast said that he had penciled in Keldon at 25/yr before the playoffs started and that made me damn near spit my drink out. There is no universe in which Keldon would have ever commanded anything near that much money. Giving him any real money is going to be a crippling move and I'm with you, he deserves something in that range of what Kenrich Williams was making with OKC; anything more and I will be squeamish. Honestly I kind of want him to be traded, he is the "heart and soul" in the same way that Marcus Smart was for Boston. I think we would similarly be better off in getting rid of the leadership voice that can't hold their weight on the court.

Yeah, some of these valuations have been horrendous. 25/year is what Giddey and Dyson Daniels got. And people are saying Keldon and Julian deserve that? Kenrich's contract is a great example.

I don't think Keldon holds us back the way that Smart did for Boston, but it is clear Keldon's role in the playoffs should be 9th or 10th guy that gets minimal minutes. Send him in occasionally for an energy boost.

Same with Julian, really. Julian needs to be our 7th or 8th guy. He isnt laterally quick enough to be a great defender, he is really streaky with his shooting, doesn't pass well and can't attack close outs.
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Wonder if they chase BAM's college roommate?

#13+Wiggins+Davion Mitchell+Jovic for Fox+20

Cuts about 12M in Miami salary and gets them off the Jovic contract mistake.


Ware - Bam - Jacquez - Herro - Fox with Kasparas, Pelle, #20 and MLE on bench.

Spurs get Morez, Yaxel or Steinbach at 13.

Wemby - Wiggins - Vassell - Castle - Harper
Kornet - Morez - Julian -Keldon - Davion
Jovic

Still have the MLE/BAE
Guitarsoup
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WTF are they thinking?
AggieEP
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JFC, who do they think they are bidding against? I don't think Trae would have another offer over 30 million per if they wait this out. No reason to pay him an extra 20 million per season when you don't have to.
Enzo The Baker
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Guitarsoup said:



WTF are they thinking?

Hey that Fox deal doesn't look too bad.
Guitarsoup
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AggieEP said:

JFC, who do they think they are bidding against? I don't think Trae would have another offer over 30 million per if they wait this out. No reason to pay him an extra 20 million per season when you don't have to.


Maybe it's like the Zion deal where it is unguaranteed if Zion doesn't make weight, but instead of weight it uses blowbys per game
AggieEP
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The funny thing is that this is Trae "taking a discount" and I actually think the Wizards think they are getting a max player at a discounted rate.

If I'm their fans I'm spamming the team social media accounts with comments on how dumb this is in hopes of creating enough backlash to pull the offer and renegotiate. But since Trae is such a whiny ***** he'd probably refuse to sign there if they pull the offer.

They should have at least made year 4 a team option and not a player option and then maybe you can see some logic to this move, but they risk tying themselves to a declining version of an already average player.
Guitarsoup
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I hope Trae has a no trade clause like Beal
Earth Rider
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Offering Trae the Max over four years is what is expected of the Wizards.

They win the lottery, draft a future all star to build around, a player that can attract big time free agents, and instead they tie up future capital with Trae.

Some franchises are just meant to be bad.
FTAG 2000
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Brian needs to spam the wiz with some future pick swaps.
LawHall88
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Gee, Wiz: Washington makes a massive commitment to Trae.

My borderline incredulous reaction to the news that Young will sign a $212 million deal with Washington can most accurately be expressed with a string of questions: Why would the Wizards - a rebuilding team that won 17 games last season and is about to add the first pick in a stacked draft class - sign Trae Young to a four-year deal that's basically a max contract? Why would they commit roughly 30 percent of their cap sheet to an undersized point guard who dominates the ball, takes a ton of shots, and isn't particularly efficient? Why would they complicate an obvious path forward behind AJ Dybantsa, Darryn Peterson, or Cam Boozerby emboldening someone who basically had no trade value six months ago? Why would they give this person a player option in year four?!

Young is not terrible. He turns 28 in September and is one of the greatest passers alive. But the Atlanta Hawks soured on him even though he made four All-Star teams in seven seasons. Young doesn't get along with teammates, has clashed with coaches, and may already be showing some physical decline. If the Wizards promised this money to Young when they traded for him, that was a mistake. If they promised less and felt the need to match or rise above whatever a team like, say, the Brooklyn Nets were hypothetically willing to offer, that's malpractice. The length and cost of this contract are potentially disastrous for an organization that could've simply not made this trade back in January (ditto for the one in February that landed Anthony Davis) and then could've used all its cap space elsewhere this summer. The Wizards could've gone after Jalen Duren or Austin Reaves or Ayo Dosunmu or Peyton Watson. They could've taken on a bad salary to add more draft capital.

When they traded for Young, the Wizards didn't know they would win the lottery, but they should've operated under the belief that a top-four pick could fall into their lap. (Again, Washington won 17 games last season.) Young may be an OK fit on the court, but even that isn't guaranteed. It's brutal news on the eve of what should still be a celebratory day. Michael Pina

https://nbarankings.theringer.com/the-offer-sheet
AggieEP
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Lol, I wonder if it's too late for them to pull the offer sheet.

I get it if that was the price of doing business in a competitive market, but I really thought that they had a chance to sign him for 4/120 or even 3/100 with opt outs and make him prove he's a max player and a good fit for them.

If this deal is signed it'll be one of the more ludicrous overpays in league history because no one else is even competing with the Wizards for Trae Young.
Guitarsoup
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I still like Ariel Hukporti as a 3rd string center. This might make it less likely for them to match (RFA)
Average Joe
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Seems pretty quiet night before.
LawHall88
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Enzo The Baker
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LawHall88 said:



This has to be Minnesota preparing for something right?
Guitarsoup
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Enzo The Baker said:

LawHall88 said:



This has to be Minnesota preparing for something right?


They moved DOWN 5 spots to salary dump Randle. That's kind of amazing. He's such an unwanted player they burn their first to get nothing back

They have to be trying something else. Burning assets to get rid of your #2 scorer and still don't have a PG?
TheNotoriousP.I.P.
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Gonna guess it's a move to take Ja into the exception they just created
Guitarsoup
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TheNotoriousP.I.P. said:

Gonna guess it's a move to take Ja into the exception they just created


Ja makes 39 this year and 42 next. Doesn't fit in the ~33 exception
Guitarsoup
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Sweeney giving DJG a contract

Spurs can match bc he is a RFA

AggieEP
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I guess the logic is that they only move down 5 spots and shed 33 million dollars in salary from an unwanted player. Now they can acquire pretty much anyone without having to worry too much about salary matching and likely can draft someone similar to what they would have gotten at 28.

In the context of the KAT trade though.... this now further cements that deal as an all time bad trade. They are sitting here now with no Randle and an injured DDV while KAT is an NBA champ.
AggieEP
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Maybe Chicago picking up Claxton is a signal they want to be good sooner than later. Maybe we could entice them with an offer of 2027 ATL plus Julian for the 15th pick of Morez is still there.
 
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