***** Official Houston Astros 2025 Season Thread *****

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In reply to Aggie8587 • 11:45p, 9/23/25
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Aggie8587 said:
Lmao Mariners with a 2-out, bases clearing 2B in the bottom of the 8th to come back and beat the Rockies 4-3

5 straight Ws and 15 of the last 16… maybe the best/luckiest/wildest sprint to the finish in MLB history

2007 Rocktober. Rockies won 14 of their last 15 that included a play-in game to make the WC, went 7-0 in the NLDS and NLCS before getting swept in the WS. The 8 days off killed the momentum of 21 wins out of 22. and they returned to the mediocre team they actually were just in time to get swept.
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In reply to scrimp • 11:45p, 9/23/25
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Not going to go back and read thru the pre game posts (too depressing right now), but is there a reason Peña didn't play?


Continued soreness from obscure injury while swinging the bat.
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11:46p, 9/23/25
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Jake is 11 for 51 since returning

with zero x-base hits
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11:47p, 9/23/25
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Jake is now 11 for 51 since returning. Paredes is 2 for 15. That's the tough thing about guys coming back from extended absences. They don't always pick up where they left off.

Yordan, on the other hand, was mashing. His injury pretty much ended our season. The Pena injury sure hasn't helped these past two games. The lineup we're rolling out right now just isn't good.
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11:47p, 9/23/25
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at least the decision on Espada has become a no-brainer
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11:49p, 9/23/25
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Blummer stated the obvious in postgame "Astros not showing any sign of urgency". I was thinking the exact same thing watching this game. Almost every batter had no plan while at the plate and defense was atrocious. Sorry guys but unless some miracles happen in the next five games this season is over.
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11:49p, 9/23/25
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I realize everyone hates Espada, but what manager is winning down the stretch with this roster?
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11:50p, 9/23/25
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If I'm Crane, as soon as the Astros are eliminated, Joe, the hitting coaches and training staff are fired. Dana is told that he has one year to"prove it" or he's done.
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11:51p, 9/23/25
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Season on the line and the team is playing like it's early April

Joe is not a postseason manager, it's been a backs against the wall situation for some time and nothing

How last season ended is instructive lest we let 'injuries' cloud the picture



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In reply to W • 11:52p, 9/23/25
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W said:
at least the decision on Espada has become a no-brainer


My God, you sure hope so…this team is so much better than their performance over the past 3 months, even with the injuries.

I think they ultimately quit on Espada and found nothing to rally around with regard to him.

He was a horrible mistake to hire in the first place and made so much worse when he was allowed to keep the awful staff around him.

The other thing that just doesn't get talked about enough….how much of the injury bug that has plagued this team the last 2 seasons is just bad luck? Given how woeful this coaching staff is, how much of it could've been picked-up on earlier with players who trusted them? I have a hard time thinking that the injury issue is simply on the medical/training staff.

That said…fire them all.
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In reply to iBrad • 11:52p, 9/23/25
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iBrad said:
I realize everyone hates Espada, but what manager is winning down the stretch with this roster?

A manager who would have already fired Cintron months ago and can motivate the players to excel, demand accountability and not be their friend.
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11:52p, 9/23/25
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Did Urias punch his locker and nobody wants to report it?
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In reply to iBrad • 11:52p, 9/23/25
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iBrad said:
I realize everyone hates Espada, but what manager is winning down the stretch with this roster?


That's a fair point, but the players don't seem prepared. Their approach sucks, and there doesn't seem to be any sense of urgency. The lack of motivation and fire, imo, is on the manager. At least make it look like you are making an effort.
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11:55p, 9/23/25
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Framber literally crossed up Salazar on purpose to drill him and Joe's response was to have Framber and Salazar come to his office with the result that Salazar had to take the blame for pushing the wrong Pitchcom button or whatever. That's when Joe lost the team for good

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In reply to iBrad • 12:00a, 9/24/25
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iBrad said:
I realize everyone hates Espada, but what manager is winning down the stretch with this roster?


I can assure you that there are plenty of managers who could win with a lineup that has Altuve, Walker, Correa, Sanchez, Urias, Diaz, Alvarez, Smith, Meyers (which Espada has largely had for the last month while falling to pieces).

The injury situation has really been more of a scary thing for the pitching staff and yet, they're not losing b/c of their pitching. They're losing b/c they have a roster of perennial All Stars, potential HoF'ers, etc. and nobody got better as the season went on…guys stayed in funks and the team couldn't do anything with RISP all season, they lead the league in GIDP and can you remember the last time they effectively ran a hit-and-run??

They're extremely poorly managed, there's no chance with this staff that anyone is going to "figure it out" if they start struggling b/c they have someone who knows how to help them work through it.

The team looked hapless and punchless by the end of the season b/c that's how they were rendered strategically.
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12:01a, 9/24/25
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Here's hoping that our Fighting Texas Aggies can continue their winning ways to help us all pull out of Astros baseball doldrums. If the Astros aren't in the playoffs I don't give a rats ass watching the baseball playoffs. I'll just move on to Aggie football and Bucky ball.
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12:02a, 9/24/25
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It's not like motivation and fire are going to make guys who have been struggling all of a sudden figure it out. It's a crap lineup. There's very little firepower. No Yordan. No Pena. Paredes isn't close to what he was.

As an opposing pitcher, who do fear?
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12:03a, 9/24/25
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remember to make the playoffs...

the Astros only have to be 6th best team in the American League

it's understandable that the Astros will finish behind the Mariners. Seattle has the better roster.

but look at the Guardians roster -- outside of Jose Ramirez -- their position player group is awful

no excuse to finish behind Cleveland
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In reply to iBrad • 12:03a, 9/24/25
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iBrad said:
It's not like motivation and fire are going to make guys who have been struggling all of a sudden figure it out. It's a crap lineup. There's very little firepower. No Yordan. No Pena. Paredes isn't close to what he was.

As an opposing pitcher, who do fear?

So what if you give up some singles. No one in this lineup is hurting you right now. Go right after each and every one of them.
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In reply to W • 12:05a, 9/24/25
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W said:
remember to make the playoffs...

the Astros only have to be 6th best team in the American League

it's understandable that the Astros will finish behind the Mariners. Seattle has the better roster.

but look at the Guardians roster -- outside of Jose Ramirez -- their position player group is awful

no excuse to finish behind Cleveland

Cleveland's pitching has been phenomenal and has carried them the last twenty games,
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In reply to iBrad • 12:06a, 9/24/25
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iBrad said:
It's not like motivation and fire are going to make guys who have been struggling all of a sudden figure it out. It's a crap lineup. There's very little firepower. No Yordan. No Pena. Paredes isn't close to what he was.

As an opposing pitcher, who do fear?


Nobody b/c the entire team is in a funk and guys who have made a career of being clutch hitters or hard to strike out, etc. have been rendered useless by a staff that inspires nothing in them.

If the Astros had a fire sale and just tried to trade everyone away to start over…there will be many a career renaissance next season in other places.

This team isn't nearly as bad as you think they are…you've just become conditioned to expect the least out of them b/c that's what a dog**** manager will do.
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In reply to The Beef01 • 12:13a, 9/24/25
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People have complained about Walker all year. Yanier all year. Altuve all year. Many questioned the Correa trade because of the down year he was having under a different coaching staff. Jake hasn't had any power this season. Nobody likes Dubon. Smith hit a wall weeks ago.

If you think a coaching staff can magically light a fire under these guys and get them to perform at a level we haven't seen all season, you're fooling yourself.

These guys are professional athletes. If they aren't competitive enough to want to win and make the playoffs, then we need to clean house. They are grown ass men. They shouldn't need a coach to point out what every damn Astros fan knows.
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In reply to linkdude • 12:17a, 9/24/25
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linkdude said:
I think he has been alright, but it's just a tough look with how his offense has been


This is who he is. He strikes out a lot but drives in runs. He leads the team doesn't he? He's lapping Correa since he returned. I just looked at the splits and Correa has 186 AB, 8 doubles, 6 HR and 19 RBI. He's been a complete failure. 14 extra base hit in 2 months, 47 games.
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12:23a, 9/24/25
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The fact that the entire team looked like emotionless CJ Stroud on the sidelines with our entire season on the line tells me Espada has completely lost the team. This team is done and has given up. A manager in baseball is not near as critical as in some other sports, but the one thing he does have an influence on is on the teams attitude, and just like Joe this team has zero attitude or accountability.

The Astros missed their chance to cut Framber when it was more than deserved yet they chose to play cover up, and the entire team has really crumbled.
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12:25a, 9/24/25
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I've posted this a couple times but I sat right on the home dugout on Saturday and between every pitch and play, coming into and leaving the dugout every inning, after empty ABs, and so on, these guys and Altuve in particular just looked dead inside. Surly, tired, over it. It was staggering. I left accepting that the season was done, it just seemed so clear these guys didn't have it in them anymore.

You can blame Espada or you can blame them, or the injuries or aging or years of long postseason runs sapping the hunger or whatever, or some combination, but the bottom line in practical terms is they don't look like there's any urgency because there isn't. They're ready to go home. That's just how it is.

It is sad because we've been so spoiled but we have to hope for a lot of changes in 2026 and maybe it'll be for the best.
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In reply to AggiEE • 12:30a, 9/24/25
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kb2001 said:
I think that about wraps up the season, and a fitting end at that. 3 hits, and 0-3 with RISP. That sums up the 2025 Astros.


Walker straight up not even attempting to make plays

Dude is playing like he's done with the Astros, what an awful, awful, awful, atrocious signing.

he misses his wifey and kids lmao
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In reply to jja79 • 12:42a, 9/24/25
jja79 said:
linkdude said:
I think he has been alright, but it's just a tough look with how his offense has been


This is who he is. He strikes out a lot but drives in runs. He leads the team doesn't he? He's lapping Correa since he returned. I just looked at the splits and Correa has 186 AB, 8 doubles, 6 HR and 19 RBI. He's been a complete failure. 14 extra base hit in 2 months, 47 games.


Come on.
Correa since his return to the Astros has put up .9 bWAR and an OPS+ of 112 before tonight.

First season Walker is sporting -.3 bWAR (worse than first season Abreu) and an OPS+ of 90 in 619 PAs.

His slugging % is .399 to Correa's .425 with us before tonight.

Correa has helped the team and Walker has hurt it compared to your average replacement player. Granted we've had some fairly below average replacement players this season so Walker's in good company as far as the AAA brigade.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/HOU/2025.shtml

Edit - and it looks just eyeballing it like Walker has 17 extra base hits in his last 179 ABs (not counting none tonight). He was 7 for 102 before that, so pretty much Correa without the average, OBP, or glove as far as their time with the Astros this season.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/player/gamelog/_/id/32758/christian-walker
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In reply to Faustus • 12:57a, 9/24/25
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Okay. In 47 games Correa has 14 extra base hits and driven in 19 runs. Didn't know that was good.
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12:58a, 9/24/25
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6-0 was gonna get us in. That ain't happening. 5-1 probably would so now with 5 left we have to go 5-0. One more loss and we are done. Still holding out hope. Man those days of clinching the division with over a week to go sure were nice!
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In reply to jja79 • 1:13a, 9/24/25
jja79 said:
Okay. In 47 games Correa has 14 extra base hits and driven in 19 runs. Didn't know that was good.


Definitely not great power. Walker has 24 xbhs in his last 267 ABs (including 4 for his last 83).

He was Correa without the average, OBP, or glove, but since August 29 (8 xbhs for Correa to 4 for Walker) he's had half Correa's power too.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/player/gamelog/_/id/32758/christian-walker

https://www.espn.com/mlb/player/gamelog/_/id/32653/carlos-correa
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1:28a, 9/24/25
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I just realized we're gonna get prime 2017/2019 revenge game Luis Severino tomorrow night. Good luck HB.

Also **** West Coast late night games.
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1:29a, 9/24/25
This team has played like **** ever since Framber started calling out his team mates instead of taking responsibility, meanwhile sleepy Joe only allows it to get worse as every start since he has totally **** the bed and his antics against team mates got worse

His negative energy and psychological issues have plagued this team ever since.

Joe has to get blame for how he handled it, not to mention all the injuries due to him not resting players enough or intelligently using relievers when you have 4+ run leads
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In reply to AggiEE • 1:39a, 9/24/25
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can you even imagine having a four run lead right now?

the luxury

the decadence
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In reply to Faustus • 2:05a, 9/24/25
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Since Correa arrived Walker has 10 HR and 27 RBI compared to 6 HR and 19 RBI for Correa.

I'm not defending either. Just commenting on the complete failure Correa has been. The whole team has failed.
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In reply to AggiEE • 2:24a, 9/24/25
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AggiEE said:
This team has played like **** ever since Framber started calling out his team mates instead of taking responsibility, meanwhile sleepy Joe only allows it to get worse as every start since he has totally **** the bed and his antics against team mates got worse

His negative energy and psychological issues have plagued this team ever since.

Joe has to get blame for how he handled it, not to mention all the injuries due to him not resting players enough or intelligently using relievers when you have 4+ run leads


Framber being treated like some untouchable legend when he was acting like a hot mess cancer is a big reason this team slid in the second half.

This is not to ignore the team's offensive struggles, but you allow any player to act as he did and retain his position and that is absolute poison.

Let's be clear, that was not just a Joe decision. Dana was covering for his ass at times.



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