I'd definitely be pro Jeff Kent for the hall. I've never really understood why he received so little consideration. Premium production at a spot that generally doesn't give you that kind of pop.

At first glance you might think it was because he was a jerk, but punching Barry Bonds is something most of us would easily forgive.

hall of fame voting has usually been wonky -- especially in the 80's

several that jump out...

Harmon Killebrew 83%
Willie Stargell 82%
Joe Morgan 82%
Willie McCovey 81%

Killebrew and McCovey are in the 500-HR club (and got there when it was very exclusive)

in 1986...79 of the 425 writers/voters did not think Willie McCovey was a Hall of Famer -- that's nuts

Its just so bonkers to me. I almost wonder if it was older sportswriters trying to protect the legacies of "their" guys who played in the 30s-60s? But then I think about it and it took Sandberg 3 years on the ballot before he even got in. That's bonkers to me too.

Jacob deGrom is the fastest pitcher in MLB history to 1,800 strikeouts by games (240) and innings (1,493.1) 🔥

h/t @EliasSports pic.twitter.com/pUQ0Rrhosn

— MLB (@MLB) August 3, 2025

Farmer1906 said:

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Jacob deGrom is the fastest pitcher in MLB history to 1,800 strikeouts by games (240) and innings (1,493.1) 🔥

h/t @EliasSports pic.twitter.com/pUQ0Rrhosn

— MLB (@MLB) August 3, 2025

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Too bad he's 63 years old

Farmer1906 said:

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Jacob deGrom is the fastest pitcher in MLB history to 1,800 strikeouts by games (240) and innings (1,493.1) 🔥

h/t @EliasSports pic.twitter.com/pUQ0Rrhosn

— MLB (@MLB) August 3, 2025

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Good for him. Still needs to do more.

You can chalk it up to injuries the same as Koufax but DeGrom still hasn't put together a string of dominant seasons like Koufax. And Koufax still is way ahead of him in the counting stats department.

AggieEP said:

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What's the minimum innings count you'd want to see? 1500? 2000? For the quality of his output to matter.

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I think this is the real question to be answered. In an era where the rated stats are looked at as much as the counting stats, there should be some rule of thumb.

2,000 IP seems like a good bar. Maybe 1875 (15 yrs x 25 starts x 5 innings).

There are only 6 active players with 2k IP. In the next 2-3 years, maybe 5 more will reach that milestone, but 4-6 will likely retire.

There are something like 86 pitchers in the HOF and 11,000 or so have pitched at least one inning in the history of MLB (based on a quick Google search). That's 0.78% of all pitchers roughly.

There are roughly 390 pitchers at any given time in a season. Assume all 6 of the +2000IP guys make the HOF. 6/390 = 1.55%.

Rough math, but that's a pretty consistent proportion if you consider there are a lot of pitchers who threw very few innings.