TCTTS said:

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Literally no one here is upset that Kimmel got fired.

For like the 800th time, we're expressing concern that our GOVERNMENT blatantly threatened Kimmel's EMPLOYER to do something about him.

Dig up old posts all you want, this isn't the same situation. Biden's FCC chair didn't publicly declare that there would be consequences if Disney didn't do something about Gina Carano.

At this point in the thread you have to be willfully ignorant to not understand the issue/difference.

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Would you be upset if the government warned Kimmel if he threw the F-bomb 100 times in a show? That is also in the FCC charter.

Zombie Jon Snow said:

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TCTTS said:

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So government censorship of speech is allowed as long as they don't censor all speech. Got it.

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Government censorship of speech ON GOVERNMENT LICENSED NETWORKS HAS ALWAYS EXISTED.

HTH.

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I can't wait for the next string of complaints about cancel culture and government abuse of power when Democrats are in office again.

aTmAg said:

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TCTTS said:

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Literally no one here is upset that Kimmel got fired.

For like the 800th time, we're expressing concern that our GOVERNMENT blatantly threatened Kimmel's EMPLOYER to do something about him.

Dig up old posts all you want, this isn't the same situation. Biden's FCC chair didn't publicly declare that there would be consequences if Disney didn't do something about Gina Carano.

At this point in the thread you have to be willfully ignorant to not understand the issue/difference.

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Would you be upset if the government warned Kimmel if he threw the F-bomb 100 times in a show? That is also in the FCC charter.

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So every time someone on any broadcast network says something incorrect they should be threatened with their FCC license? That's your position?

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Honest question: in what world is this "clear cut" and "dead to rights"?

Kimmel said that "the MAGA gang desperately tried to characterize this kid as anything other than one of them", he never states that the shooter was MAGA. People characterizing this as a blatant lie are at best inferring a lot here. (And while both sides wildly pointed fingers the kid seems to be generally apolitical and have his own odd motivations.)

I can't imagine trying to characterize this as a lie blatant enough that it would get ABC's FCC license revoked would hold up in court.

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Funny thing about this statement and the "joke" Kimmel was attempting is that it had NOTHING to do with MAGA and the characterization of the shooter....the "joke" was just Trumps reaction to being asked about how he was handling the Charlie Kirks passing.

That lead in to the sound bite from Trump (which was at least funny in some context) had nothing to do with that statement.

So you can only conclude that he added that as a direct slam or dig when he didn't need to.



"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who m***dered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving. On Friday, the White House flew the flags at half staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this."

A clip of the President was then shown where, when asked by a reporter how he was holding up following the passing of Kirk, he replied, "I think very good, and by the way, right there where you see all the trucks, they just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House."


You could leave out the entire intro about MAGA and start with the White House flying flags at half staff and the joke is the same. So while he is slamming some for political scoreboarding he is doing the exact same thing.


That's the difference between someone like him and the great Johnny Carson. Carson may have said the same joke and pointed out the possible hypocrisy of it all but without offending 50% of his potential audience.

I said this on F16 but I suspect we will learn that his show was losing money just like Colbert. He actually has worse ratings than Colbert with presumably roughly equal production values. If that is near the case, they are probably losing money hand over fist. Couple this with his contract ending next year(?) and this was a perfect opportunity to cut dead weight with some cover.

Disney, like most other corporations in the last few years, have rediscovered the concept of profitability and with Iger's return have been cutting discretionary costs as viewership continues to decline in the traditional channels. Kimmel is likely downwind from this and then constantly wading into the political arena as yet another mouthpiece for the Democrat party instead of keeping the show in its traditional lane of comedy / variety skits / celebrity interviews hasn't helped.

In what world are conservatives 50% of Kimmel's audience? Trump has been targeting him for ages. And his broader point, that conservatives have used the murder to push attacks on liberals and Democrats before anything was known about the killer, his connections, or his motivations.

Sapper Redux said:

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suburban cowboy said:

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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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You know Democratic politicians and their families have been attacked in recent months, right?

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Yes, by other Democrats.

YouBet said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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suburban cowboy said:

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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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You know Democratic politicians and their families have been attacked in recent months, right?

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Yes, by other Democrats.

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Good lord. This is just brain rot.

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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TCTTS said:

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So government censorship of speech is allowed as long as they don't censor all speech. Got it.

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Government censorship of speech ON GOVERNMENT LICENSED NETWORKS HAS ALWAYS EXISTED.

HTH.

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I can't wait for the next string of complaints about cancel culture and government abuse of power when Democrats are in office again.

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So, you mean a return to what your side invented and normalized? Why is it ok for you to do it but not the right?

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YouBet said:

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suburban cowboy said:

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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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You know Democratic politicians and their families have been attacked in recent months, right?

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Yes, by other Democrats.

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Good lord. This is just brain rot.

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That's rich.

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In what world are conservatives 50% of Kimmel's audience? Trump has been targeting him for ages. And his broader point, that conservatives have used the murder to push attacks on liberals and Democrats before anything was known about the killer, his connections, or his motivations.

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I don't think you understand the word "potential".

If the entire population is 100% then he alienated 50% of his potential audience. But he does that consistently so yes he is giving up on 50% of the potential audience.

I'm not saying he lost 50% there in that statement I'm saying he always limits himself to at most 50% as does the View and all of these mouthpiece shows.

Carson by contrast appealed to ALL and he managed to roast both sides consistently.

YouBet said:

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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TCTTS said:

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So government censorship of speech is allowed as long as they don't censor all speech. Got it.

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Government censorship of speech ON GOVERNMENT LICENSED NETWORKS HAS ALWAYS EXISTED.

HTH.

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I can't wait for the next string of complaints about cancel culture and government abuse of power when Democrats are in office again.

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So, you mean a return to what your side invented and normalized? Why is it ok for you to do it but not the right?

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Why is it okay for anyone to do it?

I expect that a large portion of all late night audiences either couldn't find the remote, fell asleep, or just want some background noise.

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YouBet said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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suburban cowboy said:

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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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You know Democratic politicians and their families have been attacked in recent months, right?

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Yes, by other Democrats.

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Good lord. This is just brain rot.

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That's rich.

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Believing an anti-abortion, anti-LGBTQ, Trump voter who had a target list of only Democrats was a Democrat is a unique type of brain rot.

Sapper Redux said:

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suburban cowboy said:

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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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You know Democratic politicians and their families have been attacked in recent months, right?

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You're trying to talk sense to complete and utter delusion. To them...

- the conservatives who attempted to kidnap and execute Gretchen Whitmer (for which they are now in jail)...

- the conservative who attempted to kill Nancy Pelosi's husband (for which he is now in jail)...

- the conversation who killed Melissa Hortman and her husband (for which he is now in jail)...

... etc, etc, etc don't exist (all of which were verified as politically motivated, btw). Because their existence would ruin not just these people's ridiculously hypocritical and reductive takes, but often their entire identities (Libs evil! Conservatives good!).

Nexstar Media, one of the largest operators of TV stations, announced today that its ABC affiliates wouldn’t run Kimmel’s show “for the foreseeable future.”

Nexstar is trying to push a $6.2 billion merger through FCC scrutiny.

ABC announced they’d pull Kimmel indefinitely… pic.twitter.com/gdv891GwnD

— Derek Thompson (@DKThomp) September 18, 2025

Probably relevant

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Of the two of us, I'm the one arguing for conservative values here. For smaller government. For free speech. Also, no where have I defended Kimmel once in this thread. In fact, I have been only critical of him. But sure, I'm a "lib" I guess, because, I don't know, I don't foam at the mouth when there's a two-second, same-sex kiss in the background of a Disney movie or whatever, and I don't rage when a movie role is race-swapped. If that somehow makes me your enemy, though, and worthy of mocking, it says far more about you than it does me. Otherwise, you have no ****ing clue what I "believe."

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Completely agree with everything you've been saying so far, but you're not arguing for "conservative values" here since its obvious that true conservative values are simply big government that are for right-leaning issues. They definitely are not smaller government. Any time government mandates or prohibits anything, that is by definition Big (or at least "bigger") government. The left has done it and as we are seeing now, the right is currently doing it by public government officials mandating Ten Commandments in public schools and now publicly pressuring (but not yet fully mandating) punishments for speech they don't like whether its professors teachings/opinions on Transgenderism, flag burning, and now speech on shootings.

What you're actually arguing for are libertarian values which really is all for Smaller government, at least much smaller than what the far-left or far-right want. Unfortunately, too many people who identify themselves on the left or right are simply too selfish to really realize what it really means to live in a true free society where one can tolerate all true free expressions and ideas no matter how bad or vile they are.

Wish Jimmy wasn't fired because I would have loved to see if the FCC chairman would have actually executed on his threat towards ABC. Because then I would have liked to see the ABC vs. FCC court case in front of the Supreme Court to hopefully strike down all the other anti-free speech rulings and fines the FCC has handed down the past few decades.

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aTmAg said:

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TCTTS said:

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Literally no one here is upset that Kimmel got fired.

For like the 800th time, we're expressing concern that our GOVERNMENT blatantly threatened Kimmel's EMPLOYER to do something about him.

Dig up old posts all you want, this isn't the same situation. Biden's FCC chair didn't publicly declare that there would be consequences if Disney didn't do something about Gina Carano.

At this point in the thread you have to be willfully ignorant to not understand the issue/difference.

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Would you be upset if the government warned Kimmel if he threw the F-bomb 100 times in a show? That is also in the FCC charter.

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So every time someone on any broadcast network says something incorrect they should be threatened with their FCC license? That's your position?

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It wasn't a random "someone" or a random guest. It was an ABC employee. And he didn't "say something incorrect", he DELIBERATLY LIED.

Sapper Redux said:

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suburban cowboy said:

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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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You know Democratic politicians and their families have been attacked in recent months, right?

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Not to the degree as conservatives. Not even close. ADL lies be damned.

Fair enough, and agreed. Good points.

aTmAg said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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suburban cowboy said:

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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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You know Democratic politicians and their families have been attacked in recent months, right?

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Not to the degree as conservatives. Not even close. ADL lies be damned.

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Lol. So you're dismissing the evidence we do have because it doesn't support your claim and offering zero evidence in return. What a perfect encapsulation of your posting style.

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aTmAg said:

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TCTTS said:

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Literally no one here is upset that Kimmel got fired.

For like the 800th time, we're expressing concern that our GOVERNMENT blatantly threatened Kimmel's EMPLOYER to do something about him.

Dig up old posts all you want, this isn't the same situation. Biden's FCC chair didn't publicly declare that there would be consequences if Disney didn't do something about Gina Carano.

At this point in the thread you have to be willfully ignorant to not understand the issue/difference.

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Would you be upset if the government warned Kimmel if he threw the F-bomb 100 times in a show? That is also in the FCC charter.

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So every time someone on any broadcast network says something incorrect they should be threatened with their FCC license? That's your position?

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It wasn't a random "someone" or a random guest. It was an ABC employee. And he didn't "say something incorrect", he DELIBERATLY LIED.

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Did you know that late night show monologues are not representations of fact?

Yeah, this is corporations trying to get in the good graces of the current federal regime so that they approve upcoming mergers. Any discussion about what Kimmel said or didn't say is a distraction.

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Sapper Redux said:

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aTmAg said:

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TCTTS said:

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Literally no one here is upset that Kimmel got fired.

For like the 800th time, we're expressing concern that our GOVERNMENT blatantly threatened Kimmel's EMPLOYER to do something about him.

Dig up old posts all you want, this isn't the same situation. Biden's FCC chair didn't publicly declare that there would be consequences if Disney didn't do something about Gina Carano.

At this point in the thread you have to be willfully ignorant to not understand the issue/difference.

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Would you be upset if the government warned Kimmel if he threw the F-bomb 100 times in a show? That is also in the FCC charter.

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So every time someone on any broadcast network says something incorrect they should be threatened with their FCC license? That's your position?

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It wasn't a random "someone" or a random guest. It was an ABC employee. And he didn't "say something incorrect", he DELIBERATLY LIED.

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But again, did he? At best he made a statement that might have implied something (though I don't think that was his intent, but who knows).

The English language is weird and nuanced and IMO anyone calling this a blatant lie is reaching.

was he fired? i thought he was suspended.

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Yeah, this is corporations trying to get in the good graces of the current federal regime so that they approve upcoming mergers. Any discussion about what Kimmel said or didn't say is a distraction.

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Interesting that Sinclair and Nexstar both have upcoming deals that will require FCC approval. Probably not a coincidence.

TCTTS said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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suburban cowboy said:

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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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You know Democratic politicians and their families have been attacked in recent months, right?

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You're trying to talk sense to complete and utter delusion. To them...

- the conservatives who attempted to kidnap and execute Gretchen Whitmer (for which they are now in jail)...

- the conservative who attempted to kill Nancy Pelosi's husband (for which he is now in jail)...

- the conversation who killed Melissa Hortman and her husband (for which he is now in jail)...

... etc, etc, etc don't exist (all of which were verified as politically motivated, btw). Because their existence would ruin not just these people's ridiculously hypocritical and reductive takes, but often their entire identities (Libs evil! Conservatives good!).

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It's not even comparable. The left is FAR more violent than the right.

Sapper Redux said:

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YouBet said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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TCTTS said:

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So government censorship of speech is allowed as long as they don't censor all speech. Got it.

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Government censorship of speech ON GOVERNMENT LICENSED NETWORKS HAS ALWAYS EXISTED.

HTH.

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I can't wait for the next string of complaints about cancel culture and government abuse of power when Democrats are in office again.

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So, you mean a return to what your side invented and normalized? Why is it ok for you to do it but not the right?

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Why is it okay for anyone to do it?

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Were you on here complaining about it when it was initiated and became SOP for the Democrats? Will you be on here complaining when you return to it? Or are you the typical leftist who only calls out the other side?

You can find me bagging on Trump and Republicans quite a bit on other forums. I'll never find you bagging on Democrats anywhere like most of your ilk.

aTmAg said:

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TCTTS said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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suburban cowboy said:

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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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You know Democratic politicians and their families have been attacked in recent months, right?

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You're trying to talk sense to complete and utter delusion. To them...

- the conservatives who attempted to kidnap and execute Gretchen Whitmer (for which they are now in jail)...

- the conservative who attempted to kill Nancy Pelosi's husband (for which he is now in jail)...

- the conversation who killed Melissa Hortman and her husband (for which he is now in jail)...

... etc, etc, etc don't exist (all of which were verified as politically motivated, btw). Because their existence would ruin not just these people's ridiculously hypocritical and reductive takes, but often their entire identities (Libs evil! Conservatives good!).

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It's not even comparable. The left is FAR more violent than the right.

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Thank you. You saved me from posting it.

It's laughable to compare the two.

Talk about utter delusion.

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TCTTS said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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suburban cowboy said:

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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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You know Democratic politicians and their families have been attacked in recent months, right?

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You're trying to talk sense to complete and utter delusion. To them...

- the conservatives who attempted to kidnap and execute Gretchen Whitmer (for which they are now in jail)...

- the conservative who attempted to kill Nancy Pelosi's husband (for which he is now in jail)...

- the conversation who killed Melissa Hortman and her husband (for which he is now in jail)...

... etc, etc, etc don't exist (all of which were verified as politically motivated, btw). Because their existence would ruin not just these people's ridiculously hypocritical and reductive takes, but often their entire identities (Libs evil! Conservatives good!).

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It's not even comparable. The left is FAR more violent than the right.

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Lol

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/17/justice-department-study-far-right-extremist-violence

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The US justice department has scrubbed a study from its website concluding that far-right extremists have killed far more Americans than any other domestic terrorist group, just days after a gunman fatally shot the prominent conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

The report, now archived, titled What NIJ Research Tells Us About Domestic Terrorism, vanished from the Department of Justice website between 11 and 12 September, according to Jason Paladino, an independent investigative reporter who first wrote the story. Kirk, the 31-year-old Turning Point USA founder and Trump ally, was gunned down while speaking at Utah Valley University on 10 September.

The vanished study opened with: "Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives. In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives."

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I guess the ministry of truth got to it.

Per usual, you're distorting the argument. I was responding to the statement, "One side is killing their opposition. One isn't," which is factually inaccurate. Still, according to your dumb little graph there, I would love to hear about these apparently hundreds (?) of modern, left-leaning assassins/would-be assassins. Or did you fully distort to simple "violence" as to move the goalposts?

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I don't love the guy, but pretty tame comments to be pulling the FCC card.

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Like Colbert, the network was probably already considering phasing out the show to offset costs and this just gave them an easier excuse to get rid of him.

Though I wouldn't exactly call the comments tame, they were classless and not rooted in humor. The fact that he showed Cecil the lion more grace (and tears) than an actual person being shot tells me a lot about him. But Kimmel has been a puppet for a long time anyway, it's certainly not the first time he's tried to force dumb statements into his monologue. He was never that talented of a comedian, he just did what he was told.

aTmAg said:

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TCTTS said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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suburban cowboy said:

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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

---

You know Democratic politicians and their families have been attacked in recent months, right?

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You're trying to talk sense to complete and utter delusion. To them...

- the conservatives who attempted to kidnap and execute Gretchen Whitmer (for which they are now in jail)...

- the conservative who attempted to kill Nancy Pelosi's husband (for which he is now in jail)...

- the conversation who killed Melissa Hortman and her husband (for which he is now in jail)...

... etc, etc, etc don't exist (all of which were verified as politically motivated, btw). Because their existence would ruin not just these people's ridiculously hypocritical and reductive takes, but often their entire identities (Libs evil! Conservatives good!).

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It's not even comparable. The left is FAR more violent than the right.

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Edit: schmendler beat me to it

YouBet said:

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YouBet said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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TCTTS said:

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So government censorship of speech is allowed as long as they don't censor all speech. Got it.

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Government censorship of speech ON GOVERNMENT LICENSED NETWORKS HAS ALWAYS EXISTED.

HTH.

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I can't wait for the next string of complaints about cancel culture and government abuse of power when Democrats are in office again.

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So, you mean a return to what your side invented and normalized? Why is it ok for you to do it but not the right?

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Why is it okay for anyone to do it?

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Were you on here complaining about it when it was initiated and became SOP for the Democrats? Will you be on here complaining when you return to it? Or are you the typical leftist who only calls out the other side?

You can find me bagging on Trump and Republicans quite a bit on other forums. I'll never find you bagging on Democrats anywhere like most of your ilk.

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When was the last time I posted on F16?

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aTmAg said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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suburban cowboy said:

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Madmarttigan said:

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I don't give a rats ass about Jimmy Kimmel.

That being said a bunch of snowflakes in here celebrating **** the liberals used to do.

This was such a nothing burger bit said by him.

I'm tired of snowflakes on both sides.

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One side is killing their opposition. One isn't.

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You know Democratic politicians and their families have been attacked in recent months, right?

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Not to the degree as conservatives. Not even close. ADL lies be damned.

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Lol. So you're dismissing the evidence we do have because it doesn't support your claim and offering zero evidence in return. What a perfect encapsulation of your posting style.

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The ADL didn't even count the Covenant School shooting as "political" or an "extremist related incident". Yet they count skinheads killing their wives in domestic disputes or killing another prisoner in prison. Hell, they didn't even count 2020 riots. Their data is cherry picked to support their leftist agenda. It's a complete joke.