Kimmel Pulled Off Air Indefinitely

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In reply to Quad Dog • 11:47a, 9/23/25
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"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it".

I think the bold is the contentious few words. Personally I don't see that him saying the bold is implying that the kid is MAGA. It doesn't say anything about the kid. It is talking about MAGA's response to the kid. I think you have to read too much between the lines to see an implication about the kid. But then I don't think I could have told you more than a few sentences about Charlie Kirk at all before 2 weeks ago, so I'm really not invested either way.


No. Wrong. It specifically tries to label him as MAGA. The words "as anything other than one of them" suggest the exact opposite is true.

And again the setup has nothing to do with the joke.

You could leave out the entire phrase and imply nothing and the punch line of Trumps response is then the only thing that is mocked and you make no false implications.

It was unnecessary and intentional.


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11:52a, 9/23/25
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Here's the entire part of the monologue

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"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it," Kimmel began. "In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving."

"On Friday, the White House flew the flags at half staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this," he continued.

A clip then cut into Kimmel's broadcast, showing Trump, 79, taking questions from reporters after the shooting, one of which offered their condolences for the death of the president's "friend" Kirk.

When asked how he was holding up, Trump replied, "I think very good, and by the way, right there where you see all the trucks, they just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House."

Trump continued discussing the ballroom plans, saying the result would "be a beauty."

The cameras then cut back to Kimmel. "Yes, he's at the fourth stage of grief, construction," the comedian said.


Strike that first part and nothing about the joke changes.

Could have lead in saying something more innocuous just about the tragic murder of Kirk without the MAGA implications and the joke is the same.
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In reply to Zombie Jon Snow • 11:57a, 9/23/25
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Zombie Jon Snow said:
Quad Dog said:
"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it".

I think the bold is the contentious few words. Personally I don't see that him saying the bold is implying that the kid is MAGA. It doesn't say anything about the kid. It is talking about MAGA's response to the kid. I think you have to read too much between the lines to see an implication about the kid. But then I don't think I could have told you more than a few sentences about Charlie Kirk at all before 2 weeks ago, so I'm really not invested either way.


No. Wrong. It specifically tries to label him as MAGA. The words "as anything other than one of them" suggest the exact opposite is true.

And again the setup has nothing to do with the joke.

You could leave out the entire phrase and imply nothing and the punch line of Trumps response is then the only thing that is mocked and you make no false implications.

It was unnecessary and intentional.



Agree the setup doesn't link to the joke and was unnecessary. If there was a joke to be made about MAGA characterizing the kid then he should have played a clip of MAGA characterizing the kid.

The words "as anything other than one of them" do imply that the opposite is true, agree there. But disagree overall because it is preceded by "MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize." IMO "MAGA's characterization" is the focus of the sentence not "anything other than." We need someone who was way better at grammar than I ever was to break this down for us.

If Kimmel wanted to imply the kid was a part of MAGA, he could have easily made that way more clear with something like: " MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them". Which he totally was....
(just to be clear here I am making no statement about anyone's political persuasion, just what Kimmel could have said if he wanted to make implications. I think arguing about anyone political persuasion is a distraction from the real issues here. The powers that be want us arguing about left vs. right instead of the real issues.)
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In reply to schmendeler • 12:07p, 9/23/25
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Seems like the public backlash was enough to persuade abc to push back on the attempted strong arm tactics.

Except for the 60 or so affiliates that won't air Kimmel
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In reply to schmendeler • 12:08p, 9/23/25
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schmendeler said:
Fenrir said:
amercer said:
captkirk said:
zgood10 said:

Trump is the worst authoritarian ever


He kind of is. Unfortunately between his administration and the Supreme Court, we probably won't be so lucky with the next guy.


Previous guy was already an authortarian ****head so at least we got a preview.


Lmao. So authoritarian he gave up running for reelection.

Only because he was mentally impaired and forced out
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In reply to schmendeler • 12:10p, 9/23/25
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RogerFurlong said:
schmendeler said:
Thunderstruck xx said:
Imagine defending someone who told blatant lies about an innocent person's murder.


Imagine still lying about a video clip that's been posted online for days.

He definitely tried to make it out that is was a republican that killed him.


No. He said that maga was trying to frame it as if it wasn't one of them. Which was entirely true.

Trying to frame it? Dude was a left wing trans activist, radical. No framing required
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In reply to Quad Dog • 12:10p, 9/23/25
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Quad Dog said:
Zombie Jon Snow said:
Quad Dog said:
"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it".

I think the bold is the contentious few words. Personally I don't see that him saying the bold is implying that the kid is MAGA. It doesn't say anything about the kid. It is talking about MAGA's response to the kid. I think you have to read too much between the lines to see an implication about the kid. But then I don't think I could have told you more than a few sentences about Charlie Kirk at all before 2 weeks ago, so I'm really not invested either way.


No. Wrong. It specifically tries to label him as MAGA. The words "as anything other than one of them" suggest the exact opposite is true.

And again the setup has nothing to do with the joke.

You could leave out the entire phrase and imply nothing and the punch line of Trumps response is then the only thing that is mocked and you make no false implications.

It was unnecessary and intentional.



Agree the setup doesn't link to the joke and was unnecessary. If there was a joke to be made about MAGA characterizing the kid then he should have played a clip of MAGA characterizing the kid.

The words "as anything other than one of them" do imply that the opposite is true, agree there. But disagree overall because it is preceded by "MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize." IMO "MAGA's characterization" is the focus of the sentence not "anything other than." We need someone who was way better at grammar than I ever was to break this down for us.

If Kimmel wanted to imply the kid was a part of MAGA, he could have easily made that way more clear with something like: " MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them". Which he totally was....
(just to be clear here I am making no statement about anyone's political persuasion, just what Kimmel could have said if he wanted to make implications. I think arguing about anyone political persuasion is a distraction from the real issues here. The powers that be want us arguing about left vs. right instead of the real issues.)


But again... since the lead in was unrelated to the joke you know that it was intentional. Hell if he had a joke writer I doubt that was even part of the joke as written.

Either way. It was exactly what he is trying to insinuate about the other side and it is 100% political in nature. It's not about the monologue or comedy. It's about political points. Purely.

And since it's 100% political in nature and we know Kimmel's political stance since he takes every opportunity to demonstrate it then we can also assume the "which he totally was" implication here. I know I do.

At the very least it is disgusting anyway to use the death in any way to score political points - again something he was accusing others of and yet was doing himself.






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In reply to captkirk • 12:10p, 9/23/25
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Nexstar still needs govt approval of their merger and Sinclair is conservative owned anyway.
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12:12p, 9/23/25
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Not airing Kimmel tonight:

Alabama
Birmingham-Tuscaloosa
Dothan
Mobile-Pensacola

Arkansas
Little Rock

California
Chico-Redding
Eureka

Connecticut
New Haven-Hartford

Washington DC

Florida
Panama City

Georgia
Augusta
Macon

Illinois
Rockford

Indiana
Evansville
Terre Haute

Iowa
Sioux City

Kansas
Topeka

Louisiana
New Orleans

Michigan
Battle Creek
Lansing
Traverse City

Missouri
Joplin
St. Louis

Montana
Billings

Nebraska
Lincoln
Hayes Center
McCook
North Platte

New York
Albany-Schenectady
Binghamton
Rochester
Syracuse
Utica-Rome
Watertown

North Carolina
Asheville
Greenville
Winston-Salem

Ohio
Columbus
Dayton
Youngstown

Oklahoma
Tulsa

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Portland

Pennsylvania
Erie
Harrisburg
Johnstown-Altoona

South Carolina
Charleston
Greenville-Spartanburg

Tennessee
Chattanooga
Johnson City-Kingsport
Knoxville
Nashville

Texas
Abilene
Amarillo
Corpus Christi
Lubbock
Odessa-Midland
San Angelo

Utah
Salt Lake City

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Burlington

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Lynchburg-Roanoke
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In reply to schmendeler • 12:12p, 9/23/25
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Nexstar still needs govt approval of their merger and Sinclair is conservative owned anyway.

Sinclair needs nothing. They just have moral standards
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In reply to Thunderstruck xx • 12:14p, 9/23/25
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Imagine being excited that Jimmy Kimmel's show is returning…



So what was the second best news of the year for you?
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In reply to captkirk • 12:15p, 9/23/25
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Wow thats 60 something markets - not the biggest of course but still.
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In reply to Fenrir • 12:17p, 9/23/25
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Fenrir said:
You don't agree that silencing dissenting opinions is authoritarian? That's interesting, I thought that was the whole point of this thread. I guess I was right before when I said most of the gnashing of teeth was selective and performative, at least as it pertains to you.


Through the actions of a PRIVATE COMPANY. No.

Unless that company is state owned then no.

authoritarian - favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom.


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In reply to captkirk • 12:30p, 9/23/25
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captkirk said:
schmendeler said:
Nexstar still needs govt approval of their merger and Sinclair is conservative owned anyway.

Sinclair needs nothing. They just have moral standards

Sinclair has a potential upcoming merger that needs FCC approval.

This is not about anything other than money from the company's side.
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In reply to Quad Dog • 12:37p, 9/23/25
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Quad Dog said:
"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it".

I think the bold is the contentious few words. Personally I don't see that him saying the bold is implying that the kid is MAGA. It doesn't say anything about the kid. It is talking about MAGA's response to the kid. I think you have to read too much between the lines to see an implication about the kid. But then I don't think I could have told you more than a few sentences about Charlie Kirk at all before 2 weeks ago, so I'm really not invested either way.

It's kind of crazy to me that people can't simply admit that it's a statement that's a bit ambiguous and could be interpreted in a few different ways. Whether you like what he said or not.
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In reply to fig96 • 12:46p, 9/23/25
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fig96 said:
captkirk said:
schmendeler said:
Nexstar still needs govt approval of their merger and Sinclair is conservative owned anyway.

Sinclair needs nothing. They just have moral standards

Sinclair has a potential upcoming merger that needs FCC approval.

This is not about anything other than money from the company's side.

No they don't. Thats Nexstar
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In reply to captkirk • 12:47p, 9/23/25
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captkirk said:
fig96 said:
captkirk said:
schmendeler said:
Nexstar still needs govt approval of their merger and Sinclair is conservative owned anyway.

Sinclair needs nothing. They just have moral standards

Sinclair has a potential upcoming merger that needs FCC approval.

This is not about anything other than money from the company's side.

No they don't. Thats Nexstar
It's actually both.
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In reply to fig96 • 12:47p, 9/23/25
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fig96 said:
Quad Dog said:
"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it".

I think the bold is the contentious few words. Personally I don't see that him saying the bold is implying that the kid is MAGA. It doesn't say anything about the kid. It is talking about MAGA's response to the kid. I think you have to read too much between the lines to see an implication about the kid. But then I don't think I could have told you more than a few sentences about Charlie Kirk at all before 2 weeks ago, so I'm really not invested either way.

It's kind of crazy to me that people can't simply admit that it's a statement that's a bit ambiguous and could be interpreted in a few different ways. Whether you like what he said or not.

How about in the face of a very public execution that rattled half or more of the country, you just keep your fat mouth shut for a few days.
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In reply to fig96 • 12:48p, 9/23/25
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fig96 said:
captkirk said:
fig96 said:
captkirk said:
schmendeler said:
Nexstar still needs govt approval of their merger and Sinclair is conservative owned anyway.

Sinclair needs nothing. They just have moral standards

Sinclair has a potential upcoming merger that needs FCC approval.

This is not about anything other than money from the company's side.

No they don't. Thats Nexstar

It's actually both.

Quote:
Sinclair is not currently involved in a major pending merger, but the company announced in August 2025 that it is conducting a strategic review of its broadcast business that could lead to a merger, sale, or spin-off.

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In reply to captkirk • 12:54p, 9/23/25
captkirk said:
schmendeler said:
Nexstar still needs govt approval of their merger and Sinclair is conservative owned anyway.

Sinclair needs nothing. They just have moral standards

No such thing as moral standards post-Trump
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In reply to txwxman • 12:56p, 9/23/25
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txwxman said:
captkirk said:
schmendeler said:
Nexstar still needs govt approval of their merger and Sinclair is conservative owned anyway.

Sinclair needs nothing. They just have moral standards

No such thing as moral standards post-Trump

I guess some people still draw the line about celebrating, joking or outright lying about a public execution of a political figure. I know concepts such as this allude and are foreign to leftists.
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captkirk said:
fig96 said:
Quad Dog said:
"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it".

I think the bold is the contentious few words. Personally I don't see that him saying the bold is implying that the kid is MAGA. It doesn't say anything about the kid. It is talking about MAGA's response to the kid. I think you have to read too much between the lines to see an implication about the kid. But then I don't think I could have told you more than a few sentences about Charlie Kirk at all before 2 weeks ago, so I'm really not invested either way.

It's kind of crazy to me that people can't simply admit that it's a statement that's a bit ambiguous and could be interpreted in a few different ways. Whether you like what he said or not.

How about in the face of a very public execution that rattled half or more of the country, you just keep your fat mouth shut for a few days.
Yes, we've all been discussing this for a week but suddenly I'm the bad guy.
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In reply to fig96 • 12:57p, 9/23/25
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fig96 said:
captkirk said:
fig96 said:
Quad Dog said:
"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it".

I think the bold is the contentious few words. Personally I don't see that him saying the bold is implying that the kid is MAGA. It doesn't say anything about the kid. It is talking about MAGA's response to the kid. I think you have to read too much between the lines to see an implication about the kid. But then I don't think I could have told you more than a few sentences about Charlie Kirk at all before 2 weeks ago, so I'm really not invested either way.

It's kind of crazy to me that people can't simply admit that it's a statement that's a bit ambiguous and could be interpreted in a few different ways. Whether you like what he said or not.

How about in the face of a very public execution that rattled half or more of the country, you just keep your fat mouth shut for a few days.

Yes, we've all been discussing this for a week but suddenly I'm the bad guy.

That was directed at Kimmel
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In reply to captkirk • 12:59p, 9/23/25
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captkirk said:
fig96 said:
captkirk said:
fig96 said:
Quad Dog said:
"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it".

I think the bold is the contentious few words. Personally I don't see that him saying the bold is implying that the kid is MAGA. It doesn't say anything about the kid. It is talking about MAGA's response to the kid. I think you have to read too much between the lines to see an implication about the kid. But then I don't think I could have told you more than a few sentences about Charlie Kirk at all before 2 weeks ago, so I'm really not invested either way.

It's kind of crazy to me that people can't simply admit that it's a statement that's a bit ambiguous and could be interpreted in a few different ways. Whether you like what he said or not.

How about in the face of a very public execution that rattled half or more of the country, you just keep your fat mouth shut for a few days.

Yes, we've all been discussing this for a week but suddenly I'm the bad guy.

That was addressed to Kimmel
You're not very good at clear statements.

And you're welcome to not like what he said and if this personally affected you I get it. But that doesn't change the point.
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In reply to fig96 • 1:01p, 9/23/25
fig96 said:
captkirk said:
fig96 said:
captkirk said:
fig96 said:
Quad Dog said:
"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it".

I think the bold is the contentious few words. Personally I don't see that him saying the bold is implying that the kid is MAGA. It doesn't say anything about the kid. It is talking about MAGA's response to the kid. I think you have to read too much between the lines to see an implication about the kid. But then I don't think I could have told you more than a few sentences about Charlie Kirk at all before 2 weeks ago, so I'm really not invested either way.

It's kind of crazy to me that people can't simply admit that it's a statement that's a bit ambiguous and could be interpreted in a few different ways. Whether you like what he said or not.

How about in the face of a very public execution that rattled half or more of the country, you just keep your fat mouth shut for a few days.

Yes, we've all been discussing this for a week but suddenly I'm the bad guy.

That was addressed to Kimmel
You're not very good at clear statements.

And you're welcome to not like what he said and if this personally affected you I get it. But that doesn't change the point.


His statement was clear to me. You just aren't very good at this.
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captkirk said:
fig96 said:
captkirk said:
fig96 said:
captkirk said:
schmendeler said:
Nexstar still needs govt approval of their merger and Sinclair is conservative owned anyway.

Sinclair needs nothing. They just have moral standards

Sinclair has a potential upcoming merger that needs FCC approval.

This is not about anything other than money from the company's side.

No they don't. Thats Nexstar

It's actually both.

Quote:
Sinclair is not currently involved in a major pending merger, but the company announced in August 2025 that it is conducting a strategic review of its broadcast business that could lead to a merger, sale, or spin-off.



Sinclair offers to merge broadcast TV business with rival Tegna, source says

And even if that's only rumored, if they're exploring options that would be a "potential upcoming merger" as I mentioned.
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In reply to maroon barchetta • 1:05p, 9/23/25
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maroon barchetta said:
fig96 said:
captkirk said:
fig96 said:
captkirk said:
fig96 said:
Quad Dog said:
"We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it".

I think the bold is the contentious few words. Personally I don't see that him saying the bold is implying that the kid is MAGA. It doesn't say anything about the kid. It is talking about MAGA's response to the kid. I think you have to read too much between the lines to see an implication about the kid. But then I don't think I could have told you more than a few sentences about Charlie Kirk at all before 2 weeks ago, so I'm really not invested either way.

It's kind of crazy to me that people can't simply admit that it's a statement that's a bit ambiguous and could be interpreted in a few different ways. Whether you like what he said or not.

How about in the face of a very public execution that rattled half or more of the country, you just keep your fat mouth shut for a few days.

Yes, we've all been discussing this for a week but suddenly I'm the bad guy.

That was addressed to Kimmel
You're not very good at clear statements.

And you're welcome to not like what he said and if this personally affected you I get it. But that doesn't change the point.


His statement was clear to me. You just aren't very good at this.
Yes, I'm the one bad at not understanding that a quote of my post and a response starting with "how about you" wasn't directed at me.

Actually a pretty good example of how people can interpret the same statement in different ways. Hmm.
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In reply to captkirk • 1:07p, 9/23/25
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captkirk said:
txwxman said:
captkirk said:
schmendeler said:
Nexstar still needs govt approval of their merger and Sinclair is conservative owned anyway.

Sinclair needs nothing. They just have moral standards

No such thing as moral standards post-Trump

I guess some people still draw the line about celebrating, joking or outright lying about a public execution of a political figure. I know concepts such as this allude and are foreign to leftists.

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1:12p, 9/23/25
Kimmel's statement was that Kirk's murderer is a MAGA Republican which is a lie. The murderer had "Hey fascist! Catch!" engraved on the shell casing of one bullet, and his own mother said he had become politically left-leaning. Democrats and other left-leaning people are the ones primarily calling people who lean to the right fascists. Lil' Jimmy could have just left it alone and not inflamed the situation, but he just couldn't help himself. And he did this while normal people were still freshly mourning Charlie's death.
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In reply to schmendeler • 1:29p, 9/23/25
Wait, Paul Pelosi was murdered?
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In reply to Fenrir • 1:33p, 9/23/25
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Fenrir said:
Wait, Paul Pelosi was murdered?


Yikes
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1:33p, 9/23/25
Two things can be true:
1. Kimmel's statement can reasonably be read as implying that the murderer was a right-winger, which the facts show to not be the case.
2. Statements by the FCC and concerns about blowback from the administration may have influenced Nexstar and Sinclair's decisions to preempt Kimmel and ABC's decision to suspend his show, and definitely at least have the appearance of influencing them.

I don't think any party involved has lily white hands here.
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In reply to schmendeler • 1:38p, 9/23/25
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Fenrir said:
Wait, Paul Pelosi was murdered?


Yikes

Yikes what? You replied to someone who said that there is a line drawn somewhere prior to a murder and you point to a joke about someone that was assaulted. That's a false equivalence. We can argue or agree about one or both being wrong but the reality is the comparison you made was a weak whataboutism.

Are you saying that joking about someone being hit is the same as joking about someone being murdered? I mean I'm sure you've never joked about someone being physically harmed before right...?
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1:43p, 9/23/25
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No no it's cool that your reaction to showing how not just the left makes jokes about bad **** happening to people is that "actually he just got almost beaten to death by a hammer, so mocking it is an entirely different thing." Moral superiority maintained!
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