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I mean...basically the only pushback conservatives regularly get on this website is in this forum. Forum 16 is off the rails, but the whole of TexAgs leans very conservative.

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Yep, those crazy normal dudes from the 1990's who basically just want to live in a normal, recognizable world. They are INSANE.

We should let people like this determine the future of our country...they have it all figured out. Those normal every day guys who believe in normal ass things that are largely bankrolling our university and team and pay most of the taxes in this country have zero clue what they are doing.

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I know several people that view NPR as being "right in the middle", which could not be more untrue if you listen to their reporting and commentary.

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They live in bubbles - physically and media wise - and they don't seek out any other info then what they are spoon fed. Since all of their friends say the same things and all of the media they consume does too.

This is how they arrive at the incredulous interpretation that 90% of the country is against Trump and cannot fathom how he got elected. They also dismiss everything that is counter to that narrative as right wing nutjobs and reflective of the uneducated masses.

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The irony in this statement is thick.

And with that I'm gonna go watch football and abandon this dumpster fire of a thread, hope others do the same.

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No. What's hilarious is when left-minded people reply to a statement like Zombie's as you did.

You do realize that, as a conservative, it is literally impossible to exist in a bubble? It's why conservatives know liberal talking points so much better than liberals know conservative talking points. It's why over 50% of liberals, TO THIS DAY, believe that the scum who killed Charlie is a MAGA republican.

It's why all the lies about Charlie saying 'black women are too stupid to fly planes' or that 'gays should be stoned to death' are still believed by the majority of liberals, though spending 4 minutes of your life to watch both clips will prove to any rational human being that they were wrong.

The fact you would even post such an idiotic and ignorant statement is proof of your ideology. You actually believe this because the 90% OF MEDIA THAT EXISTS is your echo chamber, and they tell you it's so.

On our end, we have to literally take great efforts to find journalists or commentators who aren't leftist wackos. And many of those are in this new form of media because they were pushed out of legacy media for their views. Hell, if it weren't for Elon buying Twitter, then I would argue conservatives would literally have no way to be a part of the greater conversation. We would have been pushed into a corner by the left and smothered until we could no longer have any voice.

Also, many of the examples given are social media personalities and podcasters. YouTube literally just admitted to censoring right-wing voices on YouTube. Something we have been screaming about for years while people like you, on the left, would laugh at us and tell us we were just making things up. They would accuse us of living in our own little bubbles. Who told people like you these lies? The freaking overwhelming institutional power the left holds in this country.

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This is an excellent post.

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Then maybe Trump shouldn't literally say he's thinking about trying to run in 2028, sell "Trump 2028" hats on his website, publicly pontificate about how Vance can run and then insert Trump back in via loophole, etc, etc.

Is Trump almost assuredly just trolling? Of course.

But that's the problem too.

He says **** like that constantly and then all you guys do is laugh at/put the onus on the left,

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Brah, wanna know why we think it's funny?

The left FREEEEEEEAKED the F out the day after he was elected. Screaming in the streets like psychos...they literally had "scream at the sky" therapy events for the triggered. Then came the talk that he was going to basically round up the gays and minorities...even though he has always been a friend to both (unlike Joe Biden who said he didn't want his kids "growing up in a racial jungle"). There were several lefties on F16 that expressed legit concern he was going to put groups on trains, I am not making this up.

Ever since he beat Hillary, the left has always had a completely irrational level of hatred and unhealthy fear of the man. I realized they were largely just propagandized into seeing him this way, but I don't care...it is fun to watch them get trolled and played with.

I do not feel sorry for these people like you do, I guess that is the diference. "Awww those poor people who would love nothing more than to see him gunned down, he shouldn't troll them ever!". LOL, nah.

He has Gavin Newsome freaking out about Trump shredding the constitution and running in 2028. This is great.

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Even texags and forum 16 don't come close to offsetting the overwhelming preponderance of liberal platforms in the national media. It's just more like a bastion of more conservative thought against a tidal wave elsewhere.

I spend more time on Ent board than Pol for sure. Other than election time maybe.

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Sure, but you asked where your bubble is. Could be here on this website.

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Then maybe Trump shouldn't literally say he's thinking about trying to run in 2028, sell "Trump 2028" hats on his website, publicly pontificate about how Vance can run and then insert Trump back in via loophole, etc, etc.

Is Trump almost assuredly just trolling? Of course.

But that's the problem too.

He says **** like that constantly and then all you guys do is laugh at/put the onus on the left,

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Brah, wanna know why we think it's funny?

The left FREEEEEEEAKED the F out the day after he was elected. Screaming in the streets like psychos...they literally had "scream at the sky" therapy events for the triggered. Then came the talk that he was going to basically round up the gays and minorities...even though he has always been a friend to both (unlike Joe Biden who said he didn't want his kids "growing up in a racial jungle"). There were several lefties on F16 that expressed legit concern he was going to put groups on trains, I am not making this up.

Ever since he beat Hillary, the left has always had a completely irrational level of hatred and unhealthy fear of the man. I realized they were largely just propagandized into seeing him this way, but I don't care...it is fun to watch them get trolled and played with.

I do not feel sorry for these people like you do, I guess that is the diference. "Awww those poor people who would love nothing more than to see him gunned down, he shouldn't troll them ever!". LOL, nah.

He has Gavin Newsome freaking out about Trump shredding the constitution and running in 2028. This is great.

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This is also an excellent post. The left needs to be laughed at and trolled more.

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Even texags and forum 16 don't come close to offsetting the overwhelming preponderance of liberal platforms in the national media. It's just more like a bastion of more conservative thought against a tidal wave elsewhere.

I spend more time on Ent board than Pol for sure. Other than election time maybe.

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Sure, but you asked where your bubble is. Could be here on this website.

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Not really. you keep missing the part where WE get inundated with the liberal view from every other source out there. Hard to be a bubble when it's constantly being bombarded by the leftist groupthink narrative.

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Even texags and forum 16 don't come close to offsetting the overwhelming preponderance of liberal platforms in the national media. It's just more like a bastion of more conservative thought against a tidal wave elsewhere.

I spend more time on Ent board than Pol for sure. Other than election time maybe.

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Sure, but you asked where your bubble is. Could be here on this website.

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Not really. you keep missing the part where WE get inundated with the liberal view from every other source out there. Hard to be a bubble when it's constantly being bombarded by the leftist groupthink narrative.

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Is TexAgs "constantly being bombarded by the leftist groupthink narrative"? Definitely not my experience here.

So great to see all the F16 right wingers make their way to this thread. Thanks for your contributions.

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Even texags and forum 16 don't come close to offsetting the overwhelming preponderance of liberal platforms in the national media. It's just more like a bastion of more conservative thought against a tidal wave elsewhere.

I spend more time on Ent board than Pol for sure. Other than election time maybe.

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Sure, but you asked where your bubble is. Could be here on this website.

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Not really. you keep missing the part where WE get inundated with the liberal view from every other source out there. Hard to be a bubble when it's constantly being bombarded by the leftist groupthink narrative.

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Is TexAgs "constantly being bombarded by the leftist groupthink narrative"? Definitely not my experience here.

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Your point would make sense if this was the only form of media that poster consumed. Somehow, I doubt it is.

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That's Kimmel trying to blame 50% of the country for the murder of Charlie Kirk.

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I don't think Kimmel was trying to blame half of the country for the murder.

I do think he was insinuating that the right is crazier and associated with something horrible like that, which was an inaccurate and classless way to react to such a tragedy. I mean, this guy shed more tears for a lion than he did over a real person being assassinated for their beliefs.

It's also lazy, when you consider how many on the left reacted with cold responses about Kirk and showing no empathy for his family. Had someone on the left been assassinated like that and people on the right had taken to Tik-Tok to celebrate it, you can bet Jon Stewart, Kimmel, and others would have been plastering those videos everywhere and making a big deal out of it. They weren't going to with this.

I mean, even Congress unanimously condemned the Minnesota shootings. But when they tried to do the same for Kirk, dozens of democrats refused. That's where we are as a country today, which is sad.

But Kimmel doesn't care. He's a paid actor that others use to get their messaging across. I'm not the least bit surprised one of his first guests after the 'time out' was Gavin Newsom. He used Kimmel and his show as a 2028 campaign commercial...and Kimmel was happy to jump at it like a lapdog.

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Reporter: Do you think it would have been fitting to lower the flags for Melissa Hortman who was killed as well?

Trump: Uh, I’m not familiar, who? pic.twitter.com/DWLJrqZe8R

— Acyn (@Acyn) September 15, 2025

Starts at the top unfortunately

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Then maybe Trump shouldn't literally say he's thinking about trying to run in 2028, sell "Trump 2028" hats on his website, publicly pontificate about how Vance can run and then insert Trump back in via loophole, etc, etc.

Is Trump almost assuredly just trolling? Of course.

But that's the problem too.

He says **** like that constantly and then all you guys do is laugh at/put the onus on the left,

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Brah, wanna know why we think it's funny?

The left FREEEEEEEAKED the F out the day after he was elected. Screaming in the streets like psychos...they literally had "scream at the sky" therapy events for the triggered. Then came the talk that he was going to basically round up the gays and minorities...even though he has always been a friend to both (unlike Joe Biden who said he didn't want his kids "growing up in a racial jungle"). There were several lefties on F16 that expressed legit concern he was going to put groups on trains, I am not making this up.

Ever since he beat Hillary, the left has always had a completely irrational level of hatred and unhealthy fear of the man. I realized they were largely just propagandized into seeing him this way, but I don't care...it is fun to watch them get trolled and played with.

I do not feel sorry for these people like you do, I guess that is the diference. "Awww those poor people who would love nothing more than to see him gunned down, he shouldn't troll them ever!". LOL, nah.

He has Gavin Newsome freaking out about Trump shredding the constitution and running in 2028. This is great.

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This is also an excellent post. The left needs to be laughed at and trolled more.

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Yep, it's the only way they might eventually revert back to a somewhat sane realm. Bill Maher and other more reasonable old school democrats are mocking and trolling them. He just WENT OFF on them the other night and he was DEAD ON.

The party is dying and I hope no one ever tells them to stop doubling down on the insanity and driving 90's/early2000's dems away.

But I miss how reasonable dems were back before Obama. You could have a genuine political conversation in good faith and tell with absolute certainty, you both wanted the same things, just diff means of getting there (for the most part at least).

Now we don't seem to have ANY shared goals/visions/desires for this country or our culture. We acknowledge separate realities. Neigl Degrassse Tyson thinks men can get pregnant and sees no possible advantages biological males could have over female athletes. This is unsustainable.

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So great to see all the F16 right wingers make their way to this thread. Thanks for your contributions.

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LOL, don't be the chick in the passenger seat...



If anything, most of us conservatives became MORE liberal over the last 1-2 decades. Everyone I know is cool with legalizing TCH and psychedelics and much less war hawkish than they used to be.

F16 is mostly just a bunch of normal dudes who are pissed off that the world seems to be hellbent on going insane. 6AM Muslim calls to prayer in Dearborn Michigan, political opposition wanting wide open borders, a shockingly high % of the left who thinks men belong iwn womens' sports etc etc. We could go on and on with the increasingly insane positions the left has adopted. Just let us vent....many of us have children and are pissed because we just want them to inherit a world that isn't completely unrecognizable from the one we were so fortunate to inherit.

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Even texags and forum 16 don't come close to offsetting the overwhelming preponderance of liberal platforms in the national media. It's just more like a bastion of more conservative thought against a tidal wave elsewhere.

I spend more time on Ent board than Pol for sure. Other than election time maybe.

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Sure, but you asked where your bubble is. Could be here on this website.

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Not really. you keep missing the part where WE get inundated with the liberal view from every other source out there. Hard to be a bubble when it's constantly being bombarded by the leftist groupthink narrative.

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Is TexAgs "constantly being bombarded by the leftist groupthink narrative"? Definitely not my experience here.

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Are you reading impaired???? Seriously. It was only two sentences and you either deliberately or ignorantly chose to ignore this part of the brief statement so I'll BOLD it for you

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as in my supposed bubble you think exists is constantly bombarded by the leftist narrative. In no way shape or form did I say Texags was. In fact I never mentioned texags specifically.

Here's how I was recently mansplaning to my wife how the left has shifted hyper left and the right has actually shifted more middle over the last two decades...

If you used a time machine and took the most radical hippie from the 60's and 70's and told them biological males should be able to play in women's sports and shower and change with them afterwards, they would think you were a complete lunatic. If you explained that we should be removing the breasts of confused 13 yr old girls and giving puberty blockers, same. Wide open borders? Doubt too many would have been for that...even Cesar Chavez was heavily against illegal immigration. They would think the most recent SCOTUS appointee was an absolute buffoon for having no clue what a woman is.

If you took the most staunch conservative from the 60's and 70's and introduced them to most of us modern conservatives, they would think we were pretty damn progressive.

Again, it doesn't matter how much rationality you bring to the argument. The left is incapable of seeing it.

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Even texags and forum 16 don't come close to offsetting the overwhelming preponderance of liberal platforms in the national media. It's just more like a bastion of more conservative thought against a tidal wave elsewhere.

I spend more time on Ent board than Pol for sure. Other than election time maybe.

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Sure, but you asked where your bubble is. Could be here on this website.

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Not really. you keep missing the part where WE get inundated with the liberal view from every other source out there. Hard to be a bubble when it's constantly being bombarded by the leftist groupthink narrative.

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Is TexAgs "constantly being bombarded by the leftist groupthink narrative"? Definitely not my experience here.

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Are you reading impaired???? Seriously. It was only two sentences and you either deliberately or ignorantly chose to ignore this part of the brief statement so I'll BOLD it for you

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as in my supposed bubble you think exists is constantly bombarded by the leftist narrative. In no way shape or form did I say Texags was. In fact I never mentioned texags specifically.

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I was suggesting TexAgs is your bubble (or at least is representative of it). 40k+ posts tells me you spend a lot of time here. I mean, I feel like I spend a lot of time here and have 1/20th the posting activity in just as many years. Can't imagine being 20x more active and having time for much else in my media/community diet.

It FEELS like conservatives are so upset and angry about the CK assassination, they are lashing out at anyone who doesn't feel their sense of anger. That makes sense. It was an awful, traumatic event.

To bring it back to Kimmel, he probably shouldn't have spoken so glibly about something so awful. That made him a target for these conservative attacks. He doesn't deserve to get canceled for his remarks, but all the right wingers can spike the football in a year or two when he his show ends anyway. In the end, his form of entertainment is dying, and I doubt he'll be on the air much longer.

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Reporter: Do you think it would have been fitting to lower the flags for Melissa Hortman who was killed as well?

Trump: Uh, I’m not familiar, who? pic.twitter.com/DWLJrqZe8R

— Acyn (@Acyn) September 15, 2025

Starts at the top unfortunately

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That doesn't excuse the lack of human decency by those in Congress who couldn't even be bothered to condemn an assassination. I think if we've learned anything from the past 4 years, it's that blaming Trump as the cause for everything doesn't get you the result you're hoping for.

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Reporter: Do you think it would have been fitting to lower the flags for Melissa Hortman who was killed as well?

Trump: Uh, I’m not familiar, who? pic.twitter.com/DWLJrqZe8R

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That doesn't excuse the lack of human decency by those in Congress who couldn't even be bothered to condemn an assassination. I think if we've learned anything from the past 4 years, it's that blaming Trump as the cause for everything doesn't get you the result you're hoping for.

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Every single elected Democrat denounced the assassination and condemned the shooter. Every single one. WHAT THEY DIDN'T DO, was vote for a bill that LIONIZED Charlie Kirk as a force for 'unity'. He was a private citizen with a large political platform that preached a litany of heinous ideas. That doesn't mean he deserved to die, but it certainly doesn't mean he deserves national merit. If the Republican legislation had simply stopped at the 'political violence is bad' (like Melissa Hortman's did), every single congress person would have supported it. INSTEAD it said this:

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"I strongly condemn political violence in every form, and I mourn with each and every one of the family members and loved ones that has suffered because of political violence, including the Kirk family. People should not be killed because of their political beliefs. That's not how democracies work.

But I cannot vote for a resolution that attempts to rewrite history and turn Charlie Kirk into something he was not. Today's resolution describes Kirk as a model of honor, unity, and respect for all of his fellow Americans. That is very different from the truth.

Charlie Kirk built his career mocking the pain of Americans who disagreed with him. He ridiculed survivors of political violence when they were Democrats, including Paul Pelosi after his attempted murder. He trafficked in spreading racist conspiracies like the Great Replacement Theory. He spread Islamophobic tropes about Muslims, made transphobic attacks on young people, regularly demeaned LGBTQ+ Americans. He has joked about political assassinations, claimed that women in the military weaken our armed forces, and spread misinformation that further fueled the flames of division that are threatening our country today.

These are not the actions of someone who 'worked tirelessly to promote unity' or who 'personified the values of the First Amendment with respect to his fellow Americans,' as this resolution claims. They are the actions of someone who used his platform to divide and demean.

I will always support efforts to condemn political violence, protect free speech, and extend condolences to grieving families, but Congress should not canonize a political influencer who regularly sowed division and hatred through political discourse. To do so would be a disservice to the truth, to other victims of political violence whom Kirk himself mocked, and to the values of civility and respect that this resolution claims to champion.

That is why I voted no on this resolution."

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This is a completely stupid argument and is incredibly logically flawed.

Because you see he posts 'x' number of posts per day, which is greater than your 'y' number of posts, then that means he spends every second of his life on TexAgs and isn't exposed to any other human being?

That is the argument you are making. Think about the logic here, and get back to us.

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It FEELS like conservatives are so upset and angry about the CK assassination, they are lashing out at anyone who doesn't feel their sense of anger. That makes sense. It was an awful, traumatic event.

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VERY angry. It was shocking to witness obviously, but this dude was the perfect model for how debate and discourse should be conducted in a free democratic society.

Just a few years ago we watched entire city blocks be completely destroyed and widespread chaos, violence and destruction after a pregnant-woman-robbing-career-felon who poisoned his own community OD'd on enough fent to kill an elephant during an arrest. The only reason George Floyd should still be alive, is in a just society, he would have never been released from prison after invading a pregnant woman's home and terrorizing her at gunpoint. And he's basically a hero and martyr to the left...many of which despise Charlie Kirk and freak out, completely baffled as to why so many people care about this disgusting assassination.

I only bring up the death of that scumbag, and mass adoration of him, to highlight how incredibly divided and different we are as a nation. It feels increasingly irreconcilable. We are simply not the same. And we do not react the same way to tragedies. The modern left is a grotesque freakshow...a bunch of Gotham City heathens.

We were told to "sit down, shut up, and listen" after a disgraceful criminal ingested a fatal amount of fentanyl. And now we're being shamed by tons of liberals for carring too much about one of the most prominent and upstanding conservative voices being gunned down because the left sees words as "violence".

It's honestly pretty infuriating. But also kind of funny...lololol

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Every single elected Democrat denounced the assassination and condemned the shooter. Every single one. WHAT THEY DIDN'T DO, was vote for a bill that LIONIZED Charlie Kirk as a force for 'unity'. He was a private citizen with a large political platform that preached a litany of heinous ideas. That doesn't mean he deserved to die, but it certainly doesn't mean he deserves national merit. If the Republican legislation had simply stopped at the 'political violence is bad' (like Melissa Hortman's did), every single congress person would have supported it. INSTEAD it said this:

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They made a ruckus during a moment of silence for him, Ilhan Omar Straight up trashed him. AOC took the more common democratic stance of "yeah, he shouldn't have been shot to death, but he WAS a racist fascist"

I don't think using Seth Moulton's mischaracterizations of Kirk's positions for political reasons is the "reasonable middle" position you want to believe it is. But nothing is going to change your or his mind. There are numerous examples of Kirk having civil conversations with people of other races and orientations, yet people like Seth Moulton would still insist that Kirk was some of kind of evil racist that hated everyone. It was quite the opposite actually, he was more willing to have conversations with them than most elected representatives from either party were.

Furthermore, you're framing this as if democrats voted overwhelmingly against the bill in some kind of principled manner. Most of them actually voted for it. So it sounds like they weren't united on what to do. Perhaps some just weren't willing to read the room. Either way, your portrayal of it is far from accurate.

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There are numerous examples of Trump interacting with women appropriately, yet...

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This is a completely stupid argument and is incredibly logically flawed.

Because you see he posts 'x' number of posts per day, which is greater than your 'y' number of posts, then that means he spends every second of his life on TexAgs and isn't exposed to any other human being?

That is the argument you are making. Think about the logic here, and get back to us.

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Almost as bad of an argument as requiring the standard for something to be considered a bubble to be if you literally never interact with anyone else.

I acknowledge that it's not enough to look at post count for a measure of time. But surely it's an indicator and it's the only metric we have.

But sure, tell me what argument I'm making. We're not allowed to call TexAgs or even F16 a bubble because people have lives outside of it and don't exist solely on this website. Whatever. I guess no bubbles exist anywhere.