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HTownAg98
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In reply to JB93 • 8:36a, 4/6/25
Punishing people who did nothing wrong seems like something a ****ty manager would do.
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In reply to HTownAg98 • 8:38a, 4/6/25
If it's a good behavior then everyone else is already doing it naturally.

And a good manger may also go to high performers after the meeting to reveal the motive and tell them just keep doing what you're doing.
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nortex97
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8:57a, 4/6/25
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In reply to nortex97 • 9:19a, 4/6/25
nortex97 said:
Please tell us that China and any country from which we get our tech and auto stuff are in that 50.

And, no, the island of penguins doesn't count, although I'm more than sure they have a better work ethic than most Americans.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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9:21a, 4/6/25

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10:02a, 4/6/25
I would really like to see a venn diagram of the countries now saying they want to negotiate with those which the administration either directly visited with or hosted in the first 30-60 days after January 20th. The groundwork has been getting laid here for a long while.

Off the cuff I remember meetings with:
  • Japan
  • India
  • UK
  • France
  • Germany
  • EU
  • Saudi Arabia
  • Argentina
  • Singapore
  • Israel
  • Jordan
  • Ireland
  • Ukraine
  • Canada (numerous calls, no delegation)
  • Mexico (numerous calls, no delegation)
  • China
  • Poland

Plus Rubio has been to or met with:
  • Belgium
  • Canada
  • Denmark
  • Costa Rica
  • Dominican Republic
  • El Salvador
  • Guatamala
  • Guyana
  • Israel
  • Panama
  • Suriname
  • UAE
  • Saudi Arabia
  • Mexico
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Krombopulos Michael
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In reply to nortex97 • 11:32a, 4/6/25
This trade war is about crushing the EU and bringing China down a peg..... All the other countries are just a distraction and truly don't matter.


As James Carvel would say - IT'S THE EU / WEF / Old school/old family money Euro Trash Monarchs/Oligarchs STUPID!

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In reply to No Spin Ag • 11:35a, 4/6/25
No Spin Ag said:
nortex97 said:
Please tell us that China and any country from which we get our tech and auto stuff are in that 50.

And, no, the island of penguins doesn't count, although I'm more than sure they have a better work ethic than most Americans.





We dont need chinas cheap **** can be made here
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In reply to HoustonAg9999 • 12:35p, 4/6/25
HoustonAg9999 said:
No Spin Ag said:
nortex97 said:
Please tell us that China and any country from which we get our tech and auto stuff are in that 50.

And, no, the island of penguins doesn't count, although I'm more than sure they have a better work ethic than most Americans.





We dont need chinas cheap **** can be made here
Most people just want cheap stuff, they dont care what slaves created it.
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In reply to will25u • 12:59p, 4/6/25
will25u said:
Lots of countries crawling back.

Trump is a businessman and all these world leaders, just like our past Presidents and congressmen, haven't worked a day of their lives in the private sector. They couldn't tell you the difference between a spreadsheet and a bed sheet.

It's why they can all talk tough publicly but when their business leaders get them in a private meeting they tell them to STFU and capitulate because they need access to the American market. They don't play in the pretend world of politics.
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In reply to Prosperdick • 1:01p, 4/6/25
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Trump is a businessman and all these world leaders, just like our past Presidents and congressmen, haven't worked a day of their lives in the private sector. They couldn't tell you the difference between a spreadsheet and a bed sheet.

It's why they can all talk tough publicly but when their business leaders get them in a private meeting they tell them to STFU and capitulate because they need access to the American market. They don't play in the pretend world of politics.
True!
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1:16p, 4/6/25
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In reply to HoustonAg9999 • 2:31p, 4/6/25
HoustonAg9999 said:
No Spin Ag said:
nortex97 said:
Please tell us that China and any country from which we get our tech and auto stuff are in that 50.

And, no, the island of penguins doesn't count, although I'm more than sure they have a better work ethic than most Americans.





We dont need chinas cheap **** can be made here
Consumer electronics aren't coming back to America.
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In reply to ETFan • 2:33p, 4/6/25
ETFan said:
HoustonAg9999 said:
No Spin Ag said:
nortex97 said:
Please tell us that China and any country from which we get our tech and auto stuff are in that 50.

And, no, the island of penguins doesn't count, although I'm more than sure they have a better work ethic than most Americans.





We dont need chinas cheap **** can be made here
Consumer electronics aren't coming back to America.



Those companies came make them here novel concept
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In reply to HoustonAg9999 • 2:48p, 4/6/25
HoustonAg9999 said:
ETFan said:
HoustonAg9999 said:
No Spin Ag said:
nortex97 said:
Please tell us that China and any country from which we get our tech and auto stuff are in that 50.

And, no, the island of penguins doesn't count, although I'm more than sure they have a better work ethic than most Americans.





We dont need chinas cheap **** can be made here
Consumer electronics aren't coming back to America.



Those companies came make them here novel concept
You may not understand how anything works then?

Are you being serious?
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In reply to HoustonAg9999 • 10:36p, 4/6/25
HoustonAg9999 said:
ETFan said:
HoustonAg9999 said:
No Spin Ag said:
nortex97 said:
Please tell us that China and any country from which we get our tech and auto stuff are in that 50.

And, no, the island of penguins doesn't count, although I'm more than sure they have a better work ethic than most Americans.





We dont need chinas cheap **** can be made here
Consumer electronics aren't coming back to America.



Those companies came make them here novel concept
We manufacture both in the US and overseas. If we were to move our overseas production to the US, it would cost a ton of capital and the overall retail prices of those products would be around 4X what they are now. The products we make here are still hurt by tariffs since US steel companies raise their prices with each round of tariffs on foreign steel. So yes it can be done, but the US consumers will be able to afford far less. This leads to lower sales at retail which leads to retailers going out of business and job losses there.
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4:46a, 4/7/25

Good stuff from Trump on the plane huddle with 'reporters.'

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In reply to wessimo • 8:41a, 4/7/25
wessimo said:
wessimo said:
LMCane said:
so the Stock Market is crashing...

all the way back down to the level it was at in October 2024.


So far... /Homer Simpson


Apr/May 2024 levels now. Last 12 months of gains gone *poof*


Update: S&P at January 2024 levels (and falling).

Down 17.5% YTD, down 7% for the past 12 mo.
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8:48a, 4/7/25
My guess is that Israel and then by the end of the week 2-3 more will have a working agreement in place and the barriers will come down on a few countries. Honestly I might even wait on it to give Hong Kong another really solid shot to the nuts of China. But Trump probably does this while Bibi is in town and then Argentina and then finally Vietnam and Taiwan. Getting both of them on board would loudly send the message that we're serious about decoupling from the mainland and you're going to need to open your markets.
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9:01a, 4/7/25
A lot of those complaining fit nicely under the All hat and no cattle moniker. Y'all were all about Trump for the last 8 years. Now that he is literally doing what he said he was going to do, and it happens to be negatively effecting you monetarily (in the short term) you're all pissy and moaning and *****ing. How do you think family members of those deported feel? Should those stop as well because of hurt feelings? Is it lack of principles, hypocrisy, or just complaining because something that needs to be done for the betterment of our country is painful to you right now.

A little short term pain for long term relief is part of life. It's called delayed gratification. All the actions taken by the Trump administration need to happen. Y'all gonna be OK.

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In reply to Spotted Ag • 9:03a, 4/7/25
Spotted Ag said:
A lot of those complaining fit nicely under the All hat and no cattle moniker. Y'all were all about Trump for the last 8 years. Now that he is literally doing what he said he was going to do, and it happens to be negatively effecting you monetarily (in the short term) you're all pissy and moaning and *****ing. How do you think family members of those deported feel? Should those stop as well because of hurt feelings? Is it lack of principles, hypocrisy, or just complaining because something that needs to be done for the betterment of our country is painful to you right now.

A little short term pain for long term relief is part of life. It's called delayed gratification. All the actions taken by the Trump administration need to happen. Y'all gonna be OK.


What a stupid argument.
Illegals did something illegal. You are justifying it?
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In reply to infinity ag • 9:08a, 4/7/25
infinity ag said:
Spotted Ag said:
A lot of those complaining fit nicely under the All hat and no cattle moniker. Y'all were all about Trump for the last 8 years. Now that he is literally doing what he said he was going to do, and it happens to be negatively effecting you monetarily (in the short term) you're all pissy and moaning and *****ing. How do you think family members of those deported feel? Should those stop as well because of hurt feelings? Is it lack of principles, hypocrisy, or just complaining because something that needs to be done for the betterment of our country is painful to you right now.

A little short term pain for long term relief is part of life. It's called delayed gratification. All the actions taken by the Trump administration need to happen. Y'all gonna be OK.


What a stupid argument.
Illegals did something illegal. You are justifying it?
No, pointing out that actions that need to be taken for the betterment of our country can be painful to some in the short term. Get over it.
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9:29a, 4/7/25
Guess they changed their mind on retaliatory tariffs.

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9:37a, 4/7/25
Fake headline by I think CNBC saying Trump mulling 90 pause on tariffs except for China. And straight back down after people finding out it was fake headline.

Or was it a bull trap?


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In reply to will25u • 9:37a, 4/7/25
will25u said:
Guess they changed their mind on retaliatory tariffs.

Crazy how that works when other countries realize that the game is up and they can't take advantage of weak leaders anymore.
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10:22a, 4/7/25
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10:24a, 4/7/25
separating equilibrium...
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1:50p, 4/7/25
Well…not horrible.
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2:45p, 4/7/25
"Golden Age"
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4:07a, 4/8/25
Chinese markets are relatively stable overnight, but the Yuan is showing some further weakness.
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In reply to Fitch • 5:19a, 4/8/25
Fitch said:
"Golden Age"
Maybe have more than 5 days of patience.
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1:04p, 4/8/25
Original "reciprocal tariff" + 50% = 104%(I believe)



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In reply to will25u • 1:19p, 4/8/25
The move from 7.35 to 7.41 is not exactly a collapse. I'm curious to see how they respond. No chance they will just concede without some way to save face
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In reply to will25u • 1:21p, 4/8/25
will25u said:
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to ETFan • 1:41p, 4/8/25
ETFan said:
HoustonAg9999 said:
No Spin Ag said:
nortex97 said:
Please tell us that China and any country from which we get our tech and auto stuff are in that 50.

And, no, the island of penguins doesn't count, although I'm more than sure they have a better work ethic than most Americans.





We dont need chinas cheap **** can be made here
Consumer electronics aren't coming back to America.
Well, we can't continue to buy them from China with everything being internet connected these days.

China has literally been caught red handed putting hardware chips into internet routers designed to spy on US communications, which they sold to American telecos. That's why Huawei is pretty much gone in the US.

So, trade embargo on Chinese electronics are needed as a matter of national security.
It takes a special kind of brainwashed useful idiot to politically defend government fraud, waste, and abuse.
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